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  • EnglishRose75
    EnglishRose75 Member Posts: 147
    edited November 2012

    Last Taxotere done and beginning to feel like a human-being again.  Having an imaginary Julie Andrews "the hills are alive" moment!  I did it!  In. Your. Face. Cancer!

  • 5thSib
    5thSib Member Posts: 141
    edited November 2012

    EnglishRose -- congrats and way to go!



    ALL -- thanks for the encouragement. Off to chemo I go.

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited November 2012
  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2012

    englishrose..horray!!

    5thsib...best wishes for today

    Maggie

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    anamerty - yes, I go to the BC cancer agency - my oncologist is Christine Simmons - she is relatively new to Vancouver from Toronto. Dr Kuusk was my breast surgeon. Who are your docs?

    How far along are you in your chemotherapy? I have had only one so far - 7 more to go.  Do you have a port in place? I don't and I feel like the odd one out on this forum. 

    That's quite a drive for you from Richmond to come to Vancouver for all your visits and treatments. 

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited November 2012

    English Rose - woo hoo! Enjoy feeling well.

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited November 2012

    Hi ladies.

    To all of you having a port I have one and have had no problems whatsoever. I love my port.  They could never get blood out of my veins and all I was left with was huge great bruises.  I put an Emla patch on before an infusion and I didn't feel any pain. I have never felt the needle going in.  Now chemo is over I have it flushed once a month and again no pain whatsoever.  Only take five mins to flush it. My surgeon said I can have it out now but I don't feel in any hurry to get it out.  So don't worry if you have to have one its no big deal.  When it is first inserted I had a little bit of soreness for a day or two but then nothing.

    EnglishRose doing the happy dance for you. Yay.

    Have a good day ladies. Annie   

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited November 2012

    My port was a non event also - I put numbing cream on 30 mins prior to chemo and didn't even feel the needle.  I am ready to get mine out though and will next Friday!  WOOHOO!

  • 5thSib
    5thSib Member Posts: 141
    edited November 2012

    Today went well. Port was great. They took all my blood samples and gave all my meds with it. I've had some SEs but they have been tolerable. Main things are headaches, eyes hurting, slight nausea and stomachache, and some leg pain and tingling. I've just stayed in bed and slept a lot.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited November 2012

    Shirley - glad it went well today - drink lots of water to flush your system!

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    Shirley - glad you are doing OK. I got a really bad headache after my 1st (and only, so far) chemo - I think it was the tension. The headache left as soon as I vomited.

    What drugs are you getting? And how often?

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited November 2012

    Why a breakfast of grapefruit and marmalade on toast could be lethal for people taking medication

    • Both grapefruit and Seville oranges contain chemicals that can interact with certain drugs such as statins and antidepressants 
    • Adverse effects can include acute kidney failure, respiratory failure, internal bleeding and sudden death

    By JENNY HOPE




    Grapefruit contains chemicals that can interact with certain drugs, making them more potent

    Doctors are warning about serious health problems caused by mixing medicines and grapefruit.

    Although it was already known that some drugs are affected by grapefruit, the number has doubled in the last four years.

    There are now some 85 such drugs, including statins, antibiotics, antidepressants, drugs to treat cancer and heart disease, plus others used by patients who have had organ transplants.

    Grapefruit can either increase the potency of drugs, potentially leading to an overdose, or render them less effective which puts patients at risk of receiving too little medication.

    This has led to sudden death, acute kidney failure, respiratory failure and gastrointestinal bleeding, Canadian experts say.

    Dr David Bailey, of the Lawson Health Research Institute, in London, Ontario, said there had been a ‘marked increase’ in prescription drugs that interact with grapefruit. But many doctors and patients remain unaware of the problem.

    The list of danger medicines includes treatments for anxiety, depression, allergy, HIV infection, seizures, heart rhythm abnormalities and high cholesterol

    He added: ‘Many of the drugs that interact with grapefruit are highly prescribed and are  essential for the treatment of common medical conditions.

    ‘Recently, however, a disturbing trend has been seen. Between 2008 and 2012, the number of medications with the potential to interact with grapefruit and cause serious adverse effects  has increased from 17 to 43 – an average rate of increase exceeding six drugs per year.

    ‘This increase is a result of the introduction of new chemical entities and formulations.’

    Of more than 85 drugs that may interact with grapefruit, 43 can have serious side-effects, says a report in the Canadian Medical Association Journal.

    Grapefruit contains a compound, furanocoumarin, that prevents the enzymes in the intestine, responsible for keeping foreign substances out of the body, from working properly.

    This leads to more medication being absorbed, effectively  doubling or even tripling the dose in some cases.

  • sylviaexmouthuk
    sylviaexmouthuk Member Posts: 7,847
    edited November 2012

    Hello Adagio,

    I was glad to know that you have started chemoptherapy and are alright.Keep up the good work.

    Best wishes,

    Sylvia.

  • carlads
    carlads Member Posts: 241
    edited November 2012

    I am new to this forum so here is a little background. I am 51 healthy , have a wonderful husband, 4 wonderful  children and a beautiful little grand-daughter that will be 3 in December. I go every year for my mammograms!  This October 3 weeks prior to my appt. I found a lump. I didn't wait I went right in to my Dr and sure enough it was cancer.  I have been posting on the newly diagnosed, but yesterday after meeting with the oncologist I found out I am TN.  At the time I met with my BS he only had back the preliminary report.  It was IDC grade 2.  I had already decided on a bi-lateral Mastectomy.  He did tell me it looks like I am T1 but I know that can change when they do surgery.  The tumor is 1.7 to 2 cm that is from the core needle biopsy and 2 ultra sounds.  It looks contained and no swelling in the nodes but I know that can change as well. 

    He said I had a choice of going every two weeks for 4 months as opposed to every 21 days for Chemo, has anyone heard of that?  I have never been anything but positive the entire time until yesterday,  I fell apart when we came home.  I was still in shock over the whole BC and then this.   My surgery is Dec 4th a week from today.  I was going to have reconstruction at the time of surgery, but now I am having second thoughts I read that with reconstruction the chance of it re-occurring is higher.

    Please any input would be so appreciated!

    Thank you all,

    Carla

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited November 2012

    Carla - I am so sorry you find yourself here. I hope someone comes along to help soon.

    I was not allowed to have recon at the time of surgery (MO did not want to risk infections, that could delay chemo). Some women have chemo before surgery. I had chemo every 21 days, I was never given a choice. Do you know the drugs you will be having?

    Take good care ...

  • DesertMama
    DesertMama Member Posts: 47
    edited November 2012

    I had my LAST chemo session today! Yep, this is definitely something to be very happy about, but somehow I reacted by crying. I got out of the chemo chair, please God let me never sit in one of those chairs again, and I started to cry. I got home and when I walked into my house and looked at my children I started to weep again. Later I called my mother, and can you guess what I did on the phone when I heard her voice? I'm a great big crybaby today ffs!

    Now it is on to rads. I will have 35, with 7 boosts. I know it will be a breeze compared to chemo. I am a bit worried about the tattoos for rads, specifically the one on my surgery side since I was told never to stick a needle there or it risks triggering lymphodemia. This just occurred to me and I haven't asked the doctor about it yet. Any advice on this?

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited November 2012

    DesertMama congrats on your last chemo.   As for the tears it is probably  relief that the chemo is finally over and you have made it through.  Yep I found rads a breeze and I was lucky I didn't burn. Remember to moisturise, keep up fluids and rest as much as possible.  Re the tattoo's this was virtually nothing.  Two minute tiny dots.  It is just like a little scratch and you will hardly notice that or the dots. Don't worry you won't get infection in it.

    Carla welcome to this site.    I had chemo every 21 days but I know of others here that have had it every two weeks.  I think I would prefer the way I had it because after the initial side effects I felt well for over two weeks each time.  As for recon it wasn't offered and I wouldn't have had it anyway.  It didn't bother me and I didn't want anything to surface under the recon in the future but lots of ladies have had it and are extremely pleased with it.  No doubt they will be along soon to offer their advice.  

    Well ladies you just can't win with me, just gotta find something to worry about .  I got a normal ultrasound but it did say I have a fatty liver.  I don't drink alcohol and never have so I know it isn't that but I am wondering now whether it could be the start of cancer in the liver.  Any help girls to put my mind at rest, if it ever will.

    Have a good day ladies. Weather here is beautiful. Summer at last Titan. I hope this year we get a good one like yours.  Annie 

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2012

    Desertmama--oh baby...you made it..I cried once I stopped throwing up the day of my last chemo..I also cried my first and last day of rads.  I had the tattoos for the rads and it was a non issue as the do it on the body and not the arms.  Congrats to you on finishing this huge step..enjoy your time off before the rads start

    Carla--I had a bilat Mast followed by the chemo you describe...it is called Dose Dense and usually consists of 4 treatments of A/C (adriamyacin and cytoxin) and 4 treatmenst of Taxol ( or a form of it). I did the taxol first as there is a study out there that shows it works best for TN's.   there are many variations to this of course and it depends where you live as to what you will receive.  I liked the every 2 weeks for 4 months instead of 6 months every 3 weeks.  It went by so quickly and then i moved on to radiation (35 tx)  I did very well on chemo considering.  Side effects were managable with meds that they will give you.  Only threw up that very last time.  Check out www.tnbcfoundation.org for some really specific things for us TN's too.  Ask anything here and someone will probably be able to answer for you.  I did not do reconstruction right away and just had a bilat Diep procedure on Nov 1 of this year (15 months after mast).  One side failed so will return in March for a new leftie.  Take your time if you like and choose a recon that is right for you..there are so many options out there.  Get several consults too if you do not like the answers you are given.  Sorry you had to join us here but you will love the wealth of knowledge of these great women.

    Maggie

  • borntosurvive
    borntosurvive Member Posts: 213
    edited November 2012

    WOW, you ladies have been chatty.  I have been away a few weeks.  First, my mammo came back fine!!!  Then on the 22nd I had an oncology check up complete with 7 vials of fasting blood work and all is GREAT.  So I have a clean bill of health and I am 1 year post diagnosis and 1 year post surgery.  My MO said she'd see me in 6 months :) 

    Welcome to all the new people and congrats to all those finishing up.  I had a sense of "I can do anything" when I finished chemo. 

    Luv - SO happy you're getting away with  your DH and feeling good.  Embrace it you Princess Warrior xo

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited November 2012

    CS - sorry don't know anything about a fatty liver.  Sending prayers and hugs that it will be ok!

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited November 2012

    Annie - I think all will be well with your liver. My sister was diagnoised with non alcoholic fatty liver disease 10 years ago. She has had no symptoms or complications. It's very common.

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 455
    edited November 2012

    CS- I think alot of women, after chemo, have a fatty liver. We take soooo much medications while on chemo, our liver gets hit hard for a while. Last november, I had a liver scan and it saw what they thought was fatty liver. They sent me for an US and when I did it in march, there was nothing. No spots, nothing. I hear that many people have fatty livers and never know about it. And don't worry, it's not the beginning of liver cancer. I read a whole lot on this when they told me it was fatty liver. Maybe if they do an US in 6 months it won't even show anymore. Wink   

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited November 2012

    Carla, I had BMX and recon.  I have never heard that it would increacse my reocurrance rate.  I did TAC (taxotere, adriamycin, cytoxan) every three weeks for a total of 6 treatments.  MO gave me the choice of AC-dose dense every 2 weeks for 4 tx followed by Taxol every 2 weeks for 4 tx.  Since I felt like a deer in the headlights, I asked her what she would reccomend if i was her sister...She explained that the stats are the same for each method but she would tell her "sister" to go with the TAC every 3 weeks.  So that is how I decided. 

    Hello to everyone!  been a while since I posted but have been trying to keep up with reading every day or so.

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited November 2012

    Just stopping in to say hi to all you wonderful women and wishing you a wonderful night.

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    carla - I will be having dose dense every 2 weeks - my oncologist felt for an aggressive cancer like triple negative, that an aggressive regime was more suitable. But that is just her opinion. It does get it over with in a shorter period of time - however, if one goes that route there is the addition of another drug (Neupogen or Neulasta) that is given to help keep the white cells up. If you haven't had surgery yet, you have lots of time to make decisions - plus your pathology report from surgery will tell you so much more!! Just take one step at a time - get the surgery first and then think about the treatments after. Most importantly - look after yourself!!!

  • DorMac
    DorMac Member Posts: 155
    edited November 2012

    adagio - Just to let you know that even those of us who get a tx every 21 days still can be getting the Neulasta shot. I had Cytoxan and Taxotere 4x and did get the shot 24 - 48 hours after each tx - actually ended up giving it to myself (in the stomach) after the first one by the nurse.

    Had my first mammo since dx on Monday and yes, she did do a mammo on the mx side too. She wasn't going to as there wasn't much flesh there but she asked me if I was concerned and when I said yes, she said she would try and she did manage to do one. I won't get the results for a while but have my followup with my onc on Dec. 11th.

    Sending HUGS to all the newbies and those going through tx or dealing with SEs and a special shout-out to Inmate, Luv, Hope60 and OBXK!

    Doreen

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    DorMac - thanks for that piece of information regarding the neulasta - I thought it was only for the dose dense regime.

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited November 2012
  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited November 2012

    Good one CS!

    It is official. I have seriously lost my mind! I quit my job today, in the middle of the day. I was having a bad day from the start. Trying to stuff my sausage arms into my lymphadema sleeves, trying to find something to wear that I would not get too hot in, with my compression sleeves and compression tank. Ever since my hysterectomy I have been a hot mess, as noted right here on these very boards with my crazy outburst. While I was working I had sweat dripping down my back, my neck, and then my nose! Really, it is true! I said F--* it to myself. Asked a co worker to finish up for me and quit. So like I said, it is official, I have gone mad. I can't stop crying, still, and this happened hours and hours ago. Oh, and I also said f**k it to my 3 month check up! Never scheduled it! And I am not going to go until next year. (I did see my primary doc). Wanna know what my hubby did when I got home? He gave me a big hug and said "I told you that you should quit a long time ago". He is not such a bad guy after all. That made me cry even more. My first call in the morning-my therapist! And if anybody happens to find my mind, please send it back to me.

    Hope all of you lovely ladies are doing well! Sorry to see so many new women here, and so sorry that you have to witness my meltdown!

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited November 2012

    Oh Bak, I can hear your pain in your words.  Please do not feel defeated.....you kept your job all this time! Soon after I was DX, I, too, had a meltdown in the middle of a workday and called the boss, gave report so a coworker could finish my work and I LEFT!.  In tears of course.....I never went back.  I am sending a nice cooling hug your direction, lady.  Good idea to call your therapist and get further support, too.  And as far as your mind.....I think my mind is in cahoots (sp?) with yours!  I haven't seen either of them!  Not sure where you live, but if you were close I'd meet ya for a cup of coffee or maybe a martini!  Hang in there.

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