I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

just tried several ways to express my astonishment that Susan Rice and Barack Obama are being portrayed by some in the right in the issue in Libya with such unsupported vitriol. Words fail me.

Lassie - and since you are a Canadian, I wonder how you view this demonstration of partisan politics, surrounding the killing of American government workers.  From within, it feels like we are almost two countries in the U.S. and, by the way, one of them seemingly has more alliegence to Israel than American unity in the face of such a tragedy.  Certainly "they" seem to care more about the politics of this Libyan event than the reality of it and maybe viewing it as "we just got attacked and let's unite as we did after 911."

I still wonder where all of this concern was over who knew what in the White House and when did they know it after September 11, 2001. It has been proven, time and again, with testimony and documentation, that the President, Vice President, National Security Advisor and other top Republican political appointees knew of the chatter, had been briefed on the chatter, and had been told that an attack on U.S. soil was likely imminent, yet they did nothing. Where were the calls for resignations and apologies then? We were attacked on American soil and there was ample warning. The hypocrisy never fails to flabbergast me.



L

Another middle class job that went away was that of "reporter" These guys and gals were full time for their paper or news show. They ferreted out the slime and the truth and they all aspired to be someone like Jack Anderson. Then the media started consolidating and being bought up by corporations. "Reporters" were forced out and replaced by independent contractors.......all writing whatever they thought would get them published. They bear a striking kinship to the National Enquirer ilk. Dress up the story or write what the Murdochs of the world will pay for. Call yourself a journalist even if all you do is wear ball gowns and tux and stand on the red carpet.



When it was revealed that George Will often lunched with Nancy Reagan even as he wrote articles about politics I had my wake up call

Wow !!!  Interesting thoughts on the intelligence piece.  Most of my take was not so much which was which.......but who seemed to have the most flexibility and could put themselves in some one else's shoes. 

To me flexibility has always been close to the top of my list.  Maybe that is why it was so hard to feel more of it this time --- this election.  I certainly could find few ( sometimes none ) points of agreement during the long lie-filled campaign. 

Anyway.....I peeked next door and say myself silently thinking....so what some semantics, and all for something that was changed for the safety of all who were involved, inclluding those at home.  How many times and how many ways can you say.....Joe Schmoe on the street is not going to get the entire verbiage and play by play.....it is not going to happen.  You do not even need to know and certainly shouldn't.  For one thing.....that is why we  have a government to take care of these things.  Ok....so you don't like the fact that it is President Obama taking care of these things.....tough.  You had a change to offer up someone. It didn't work.  Move on, and sink your teeth in something that has some fibre to it, makes some sense to more than just your little group.  You can't make something out of nothing.  And...not sure who said it, but yes.....where was the outrage for the first 9/11. 

Jackie

Alexandria, what a relief about your MIL.  Not today, not today, not today is right. 

(Regarding your legal training: yeah, but how do we KNOW you actually got that A?  We don't, now, do we, hmmm?)

Linda

They understand the Constitution like a woman who worked for me understands the Constitution. She tried to tell me that the U.S. is a Christian nation. I pointed her to the Constitution and said that it isn't. She said, "Then how come the word God is in the Constitution?" I said, "It isn't." She then said, "Well, it is in MY constitution." Alternate reality... There was no further discussion.



Alexandria, I'm so glad to hear your MIL is doing better. She sounds wonderful and amazing -- a true national treasure and an irreplacable treasure to your family. Not today, not today, not today .. I hope there are many more days and weeks and months and years.



Re: "strange" people. Hmm. I have been strange all my life and have been much richer for it in all the ways that count. I hung out with the strange ladies in NOTL last summer, too, and they are women of great courage, strength, integrity and passion. Other people can only wish to be like those women. My life has been enriched beyond measure by their friendship and love. ETA: And oh, yeah -- these women spend their lives making the world a better place and making other people's lives better. They spread love and care and joy, not vitriol and hate. We are lucky to know them and lucky that they grace our lives.



L

Yeah Alexandria - i want to see your transcripts, unless you had them sealed.

Speaking of intelligence .  Can we stipulate this is plain dumb?!!

Ok...slightly remember that title "Free Man in Paris"...was that on Joni Mitchell's album with Pave Paradise, Put up a Parking Lot??  Loved that album, but with all of my "albums,"  long gone.

Kam, "Free Man in Paris" was on the album Court and Spark. I think "Big Yellow Taxi" was on Miles of Aisles. I still have all my vinyl and am slowly recording them to digital files. That is one of the things I am looking forward to doing when I retire next year!



L

I played Court and Spark until it melted. May have to remember to download it



On another note Jon Stewart has Nate Silver tonight. Hope it isn't a repeat.


On edit. Yeah repeat