I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Just a quick dash in here at the computer during some commercials.  Only just now hearing for the first time all of the news of the day.  How the Repugs could look anyone square in the eye.  What a tainted, hideous bunch.  J. McCain is losing it badly if you ask me and doesn't know where to turn to get back to solid ground.  He is way far out there.

Jackie

and not back to the t.v.

I've said we dodged a bullet (re: Romney), but I should have said "We've dodged two bullets." (re: Romeny and McCain).  Oops, three or four, since I should include non-urban Ryan and (I love it!!) Sparklemoose.  I still marvel at out of touch Mitt Romney is with reality, women, minorities, the youth, social media, cultural norms. The stuff that comes out of his mouth...now confirming with his "gifts" comments that all of his explanations about his 47% comment were just lies.  McCain has gone daft.  I always wonder how Meghan McCain would explain her father's latest episode, but she's never around at the time.

McCain is probably suffering from long untreated PTSD.  As one ages it becomes harder to deal with.  My husband and brother have both received their first counseling once they entered their 60's.

PTSD leads to irrational anger over all sorts of things.  McCain used to see the big picture such as his work on campaign finance reform.  Now he focuses on a small tragic situation as if the safety of the nation was at stake. 

My husband used to become irrationally angry if a butter wrapper was left on the sink.  It went down hill from there.  Finally I insisted that he get help.  It was the same with a friend of ours who was married to a Vietnam vet.  When he got help, she said she got the man she married back again.  It was like that for me when my husband got treatment.

One can just imagine what McCain went through and what he may still be dealing with.  Even if he is wrong and stupid in his actions, I still wish well.

Woohoo, Kam, that is awesoem news about the Congressman! Re McCain, I always liked and respected him, but his choice of Palin was very disturbing. He apparently never even met or talked with her before she was picked. In other words, she had zero vetting. (If any of his team, not to mention him, had had a serious foreign policy discussion with her, history might be different.) I am also very upset with McCain's and Graham's constant war mongering. We dodged two major bullets in 5 years! 

Alyson, thank you for sharing your story with us. Joining all in being thankful YOU ARE HERE to tell it, and I hope you will, more and more, if it isn't too difficult for you.  Doctors all over the world just have to learn and LISTEN to women WHO KNOW BEST what they want and need in their lives.  I still shiver with fear thinking of how many women are in the kind of danger that lovely woman was in Ireland.  Tragic.  Thank goodness women are gathering and speaking out for her, and maybe, just maybe, more people will listen.

I've "graduated" - that is, remember early days at school, when we used to "graduate" from 1 st grade to 2nd grade and made a Big Deal out of it?  Well, yesteday, I "graduated" - after 5 years my docs at Dana Farber only want to see me Once a Year instead of Twice a Year.  YEAH.  Won't get results of bone density test for a week or so.  Got high fives all around for weight loss ( no carbs 'cept veggies, NO DAIRY) and blood pressure now 110/60 which is where it was preBC.  SO f'ng proud of myself.   Really.  Whew...so good to feel good, and amazing how much food choices effects it.  On another thread here a friend called it "austerity", and I call it Simplicity.  Works so well for me. Happy Dance, Happy Dance.  Only 6 hours of crazynutzoBawsthanBound driving once a year!

Now back to our regular programming, WR - who is that woman I ADORE in that cartoon, she has a name, & I can't remember it.

As for all the other great information, Blue said it for me: Idjuts, I hope they do start their "own" country

Congrats, Sunflowers!

I'm still basking in the Obama victory.  Woohoooo!!!!!

Good article below:

"How Women Managed Historic Victories on Election Day 2012

After a brutal election cycle peppered with sexist attacks, a historic slate of women will serve in the 113th Congress.

Remember 2008? The race when Tucker Carlson said he involuntarily crossed his legs whenever he caught sight of Hillary Clinton on television. When hecklers screamed “iron my shirt!” at her during a campaign stop. When her clothes and hairstyles were chronicled obsessively in the media.

One “war on women” later, the picture has evolved. When women’s groups and activists speak about the exceptional gains made by women in the 113th Congress—a historic 20 Senate seats and at least 76 in the House, with some races still undecided—they won’t simply hail the defeat of Tea Party candidates who would overturn Roe v. Wade and slash women’s health-care funding. The politicians whom women’s groups support didn’t just beat candidates who rejected evolution, made incendiary statements about rape, or called the collision of sperm and egg a “person” because those candidates revealed those beliefs to constituents. Instead, the drubbing of anti-women candidates and the triumph of a new cadre of women leaders came about because women acknowledged the sexist attacks and rebutted them before their messages sunk in as truth, according to a partnership that scrutinizes gender bias in elections.

For entire article:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/12/how-women-managed-historic-victories-on-election-day-2012.html

A glorious morning full of sunshine as I look out my office window.  I had forgotten about PTSD and if that is a large part of McCain's problem then I hope someone will direct him to the fact that he should get some sort of help for it.  His irrational behavior is harmful and needs to be addressed. 

I was really full of deep irritation last night over many of the days events -- especially McCain's since he skipped the briefing which would have given him many if not all of the answers he claimed were not forthcoming to him. 

Got to thinking ( too far to go back and find ) about the statement someone made....you will recognize it more than likely ..... about how the distress, accusations and all sort of innuendo, would be turning up after we won this election.  No truer words were ever spoken.  Not that I doubted them, but some of the SCOPE of it I find amazing.  West still thinking to challenge the vote count....when it is likely he well could come up with less than he has right now.  McCain floating dangerously close to the deep end.  States wanting to succeed ( yeah, right.....but your free gifts stop you know ) and Romney still spouting his garbage....just keeping the Republican black eye front and center.  Last but not least the Regreesives still trying to buy a conspiracy ( yoo-hoo there --- a real time waster )  and hoping for all sorts of miss-steps from the White House.  Farce Fox just picked themselves up and went on with their idiocy and boy can they get people to buy it and carry the banner.  They all look as if they came from  Zulu jungle land and haven't a clue, which they don't. 

I watched a bit of Farce Fox and got a big kick out of those vapid incredulous looks about  their offering.  That is exactly what I saw too......incredulity based on false facts --- one staff member in less than two minutes ( because I'm slow on my computer )  could have gotten the correst facts. 

Anyway.....back to knowing that time is on our side and we will get there.  Morning Joe.....Chris Christie was on today.  I really enjoyed it.

Jackie

The problem is, if it is PTSD for McCain, what is for Lindsay Graham?  (Ok - a bit of a laugh there as we all know what he is struggling with in his personal life.) 

Love Salon's headline:

Benghazi’s buffoons

John McCain and his sidekick, Lindsey Graham, are determined to get to the bottom of an entirely made-up scandal

Hmmm, that article led me to this article:

Lindsey Graham’s war lie: Bigger than Richard Blumenthal’s

Back in the '90s, and even after he was caught in the fib, he led people to believe he'd served in the Gulf War

*** Rebuilding time: As National Journal’s Ron Brownstein writes, the Republican Party now finds itself in the same position that Democrats were in after 1988: searching for a way to broaden the party’s appeal and message. (Or as former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour puts it, the GOP is in need of “a very serious proctology exam.”) Back in 1988, a former Massachusetts governor had just lost -- decisively -- to a vulnerable opponent, marking the fifth time in the last six presidential elections that Democrats had lost the popular vote. Flash forward to now: Another former Massachusetts governor has just lost -- decisively -- to a vulnerable opponent, marking the fifth time in the last six presidential elections that Republicans have lost the popular vote. Brownstein notes that Democrats, after the ’88 election, looked inward, created the centrist New Democrat movement, and turned to Bill Clinton to rebuild the party’s image. And the question for the GOP becomes: What does it do to turn around its presidential fortunes come 2016? Or, as the Wall Street Journal reports of a growing narrative among Republicans, was the loss simply Romney’s fault?

*** But no easy fixes: On Wednesday, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus delivered a presentation of exit poll data to GOP senators that pointed to several reasons why Republicans lost. (And by the way, none of those reasons mentioned the word “gifts.”) They included changing demographics (the white share of the electorate has declined from 81% in 2000 to 72% in 2012); George W. Bush (who was blamed more for the current state of the economy than President Obama); and a failure to be perceived as the champion of the middle class (44% of voters believed Obama’s policies favored the middle class, versus 34% who said the same about Mitt Romney’s policies). The problem for the GOP is that there are no easy fixes to those challenges. Republicans could sign on to comprehensive immigration reform as a way to better appeal to Latino voters, but which party would get credit for that legislative achievement -- the GOP or Democrats? In addition, this election proved that it’s difficult for the Republican nominee to break away from the Bush brand, even as Romney kept his distance from the former president. And as the debate over the fiscal cliff negotiations is proving, it’s hard for the GOP to be perceived as the middle class’ champion when it’s fighting against taxes being raised on the Top 2%

Linda - good one!!!! 

Kam  - I sent you a pm.

mcCain lost all credibility with me years ago after I read various articles concerning his regard and treatment of his Native American constituents in Arizona. They consider him little more than a liar. No promise he couldn't break for them.



My son is one half Mi'kmaq and is determined to leave us in the coming years to live in Flagstaff with his Navajoe friends. I am hopeful this will be his safe place when my time comes. He's visiting again over the holidays to continue forming a community of friends who accept him, disabilities and all.



Don't think he'll ever vote for a McCain.

I remember a time when many Republicans actually shared some of the positions that I and other Democrats held.  They didn't have to stake out everything to be the direct opposite of the Democratic position.  That's what has been really sad...to see Republicans turn on things they used to value and support just because Obama values and supports them.  My memories of this more genuinely bipartisan time was jogged today by this news:

TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. (AP) — Helen Wallbank Milliken, Michigan's longest-serving first lady and a staunch supporter of women's rights and environment issues, has died. She was 89.

Son William Milliken Jr. says she died Friday morning at the family's Traverse City, Mich., home.

Early in her husband's political career, Milliken dutifully played the role of unassuming, supportive spouse. But she evolved into an outspoken advocate of issues close to her heart during a record 14 years as first lady.

She vigorously campaigned for abortion rights and the ill-fated Equal Rights Amendment. She also drew the wrath of the outdoor advertising industry when she criticized highway billboards shortly after her husband, Republican William Milliken, became governor in 1969.

At her urging, her husband hiked the Pigeon River State Forest, where he later limited development.

Hi.  Been off-line for a bit>

Sun: great news.  Congrats on the graduation!!  Doing happy dance for you.

McCain,  I liked him back in 2000 when he ran against Bush, liked his principled stance against torture during the Bush years, but the 2008 campaign showed his true colors, I fear, and I think he may be getting demensia on top of it.

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