I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    Looks like members of the Fox Lemmings Patrol

    Jackie

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited November 2012

    Where is the "like" button?!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    This is descending to the level of wearing a beany cap with a propellor to keep aliens from reading your thoughts.

    Sigh.

    Sad to see that the refusal to deal in actual facts survived the election.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    Ok, for all those people who want the US to become a country that limits abortion:  I'm posting a link to a story about a woman in Ireland, in the middle of a miscarriage but who was denied an abortion because the fetus' heart was still beating.  They waited three days, until the fetus' heart stopped, and then they aborted.  By then, she had sepsis and subsequently died.  Spread it around.  Women should know what can happen when a fetus has the same right to life as the mother, as was stated in the Republican platform.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/savita-halappanavar-death-irish-woman-denied-abortion-dies_n_2128696.html

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited November 2012

    Alexandria, it might have gotten lost amongst my other posts, but I posted about this yesterday (with a link to a CBS news article).  Such a tragedy!!

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited November 2012

    Did anyone see Anderson Cooper's show on CNN last night?  Love him and loved how he kept asking (old angry man) John McCain about his hypocrisy vis a vis Susan Rice (and the possibility of her being nominated to be Sec. of State).  Anderson pointed out how Condolezza (sp?) Rice continued to perpetuate the myth about WMDs in Iraq based on faulty intelligence she was given (and how we lost countless lives in Iraq) and still became Sec. of State.....  McCain didn't have an answer....just his usual smirk.  Amazing the hypocrisy the Archie Bunkers and Archie Bunkerettes continue to display!

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited November 2012

    "Top Republicans say Romney didn't offer specifics"

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i0KJwjhOFZo4zfHNyHjfCe1aohfw?docId=b767201c65d54dd8adb512d969e69b7c

    "LAS VEGAS (AP) — Top Republicans meeting for the first time since Election Day say the party lost its bid to unseat President Barack Obama because nominee Mitt Romney did not respond to criticism strongly enough or outline a specific agenda with a broad appeal.

    In conversations at the Republican Governors Association confab in Las Vegas, a half dozen party leaders predicted the GOP will lose again if it keeps running the same playbook based on platitudes in place of detailed policies. Instead, they asserted, the party needs to learn the lessons from its loss, respect voters' savvy and put forward an agenda that appeals beyond the while, male voters who are its base.

    "We need to acknowledge the fact that we got beat," Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said in an interview. "We clearly got beat and we need to recognize that."

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    Mary, Mary, Mary = gets the WAKE HER UP WITH A LOUD CHUCKLE award for today.

    Lots of contenders, but that "cartoon" with the "facts" is da best. 

    Now GIFTS - GIFTS - I gotta dink on dis one...my thinker was stolen by Faux News, I had to turn it in for I could be given a ceretificate to watch - but this "idear" keeps jumping around -

    HOW ABOUT - Willard goes to the Red States when they all leave, and he can be their Leader.  Somebody must've read the hard truth, as in real facts, about how little revenue is RAISED for the Federal Gov. in those states, and it wold be FUN to watch them play Etch-a-Sketch with their new leader....ooohh, now THAT wold be a gift.

    GIFTS - the guy is looney tunes - I happen to love the word crazy, and calling him that would be too much of a compliment in my thinking...

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    Belinda, sorry missed your post.  Sometimes things so by so fast and furious, I don't read carefully.

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited November 2012

    Alexandria,

    Oh gosh, no worries.  I don't always catch everything, either.  I just wanted to point out that I share your outrage over that young woman's senseless death.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    I don't think this story can be repeated enough. Before I was born my aunt died from a botched abortion. She and her husband already had three children and just couldn't afford another one. Since abortion was illegal she found a quack who killed her. My grandparents blamed her husband, and basically the family was torn apart because of this tragedy. Thank God Romney and Paul, rape is just another form of conception, Ryan won't be in a position to take us back to those dark days!

    I've read that Ireland is "rethinking" its policy on abortion after the woman, in that story, died. 

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

      I am a newshound.  I have MSNBC playing in the background while I write, and I hadn't heard this story.  Upsetting.  It really should get more press, especially with Ohio now acting to restrict abortion.  Again.  They just don't learn, do they?

      My DH brought this to my attention.   I understand that women in Ireland are marching with signs, "My heart beats, too." 

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited November 2012

    idjut (plural idjuts)

    1. (dialect) idiot
      • “I said ‘If you ask your father,’ you idjut. Do I have to wipe your nose for you?” --Doctor MacRae in Robert A. Heinlein's Red Planet.  Most members of the Republican Party.
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited November 2012

    stoopid

    adjective

    spelling of stupid.

    That bitch is stoopid, yo.
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    Alexandria....some times things SHOULD get the spotlight for a second time.  Yes, yes, yes, two people died and one did not have too.  The Repugs nor anyone else should have the right to determine who lives or dies in this way and for this reason.  It was never a DUTY that any of us play God ( though I know some people don't believe in God ) but jmho there are far less SINS than others would like you to believe if you do accept that there is a God.  It's called control which I'm sure everyone knows. The one who can find the most sins can then feel in charge and be the VOICE. 

    Yorkie true and so very sad and makes it all the more despicable that so many making the rules are never getting anywhere near the choices people have had to make. 

    So on to this morning.  I think I'm seeing some Republicans trying to flex their mental muscles and it just isn't working out well.  They as well as so many, are looking for differences  rather than what can be agreeed upon and it is going to hurt them, not help them.  They are there for our business and are ignoring the fact of why Pres. Obama got re-elected. Ax's to grind don't belong here. 

    Jackie

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    Jackie, the whining is becoming tiring. All they can do is preach to their very small choir, because nobody else is listening. At least there are a few prominent Repubs, although not near enough, who are starting to get the fact that their party is totally out of touch with the rest of the country. What Romney said about Obama basically buying votes to get re-elected was despicable. Glad it's being repudiated by Jindal and others.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    *** We come bearing “gifts”: In a conference call with his top donors yesterday, Mitt Romney blamed his defeat on the fact that President Obama and his administration were able to offer “gifts” to African-American, Latino, and young voters, according to the L.A. Times and New York Times. What were those gifts in Romney’s telling? The health-care law. Help with student loans. Free contraception under the health-care law. The executive action stopping the deportation of qualified young illegal immigrants. Some Republicans weren’t too pleased by Romney’s words, which seemed like a rehash of his infamous “47%” comments. “I think that’s absolutely wrong,” Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) said at a Republican Governors Association meeting, per Politico. “Two points on that: One, we have got to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100% of the votes, not 53%... And, secondly, we need to continue to show how our policies help every voter out there achieve the American Dream.” Latino Republican Alfonso Aguilar, a Romney supporter, called the remarks a “slap in the face” to the Latino community and added, “He lost the election by making comments like that to Latinos.”

    *** Why Romney’s “gifts” explanation is laughable: When you think about it, Romney’s explanation for Obama’s victory is laughable -- the president won because he successfully delivered to his voters. Isn’t that what politicians and presidents are supposed to do? In addition, Romney’s “gifts” rationale doesn’t explain why he lost Iowa, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin, states with older and whiter populations. What’s particularly striking here: Jindal’s criticism. He was the first Republican to step up here, and it’s an easy brave moment if you’re an aspiring 2016er. A softball to hit out of the park. Romney, sounding more bitter than big in those comments, is giving plenty of aspiring Republican leaders to now use this moment to distinguish themselves from Romney. Watch for a bunch of folks on the GOP side to pile on actually.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    *** Why Romney’s “gifts” explanation is laughable: When you think about it, Romney’s explanation for Obama’s victory is laughable -- the president won because he successfully delivered to his voters. Isn’t that what politicians and presidents are supposed to do? In addition, Romney’s “gifts” rationale doesn’t explain why he lost Iowa, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin, states with older and whiter populations. What’s particularly striking here: Jindal’s criticism. He was the first Republican to step up here, and it’s an easy brave moment if you’re an aspiring 2016er. A softball to hit out of the park. Romney, sounding more bitter than big in those comments, is giving plenty of aspiring Republican leaders to now use this moment to distinguish themselves from Romney. Watch for a bunch of folks on the GOP side to pile on actually.

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2012

    Apparently some Republicans are trying to bring others to reality.  The following is from RedState:

    EDITOR OF REDSTATE
    Is It Time to Roll Up the Welcome Mat Here?
    By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  November 13th, 2012 at 11:32 AM  |  154

    RESIZE: AAA
    Barack Obama won the election.

    He did not win by stealing the election. Voter irregularities always happen. It is one reason we support voter ID rules. But even in the worse scenario of reports out there, there were not enough tales of voter irregularities to matter nationwide. This is another benefit and built in safeguard of the electoral college.

    Barack Obama won. He won by turning out the most people in a well run campaign. In other words, he won fair and square.

    We here at RedState are American citizens. We have no plans to secede from the union. If you do, good luck with that, but this is not the place for you.

    We have a place for you here if you wish to continue the fight against Republicans in Washington like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell who’d be happy to sell us down the river to keep their power, no matter how devoid of principle or sound policy. You have a place here if you’d like to keep fighting the Democrats who are intent on further stifling economic growth, pushing forward with Obamacare, bankrupting the nation, and siding with teachers unions against kids who deserve better.

    Too many people have spent the past four years obsessed with birth certificates. Now they are obsessed with voter fraud conspiracies, talk of secession, and supposed election changing news stories if only we had known.

    So let’s add dabblers in this latest nuttiness to birthers as a category of people we do not welcome at RedState. Our aim is to beat the Democrats, not beat a retreat to a Confederacy that Generals Grant and Sherman rent asunder well over a hundred years ago.

    Even here at RedState, while we may not much care for him, President Obama is still our President and we are still quite happily citizens of the United States. If we must drain this fever swamp that’s taken hold of a few people on the right over this past week before we can drain the swamp in Washington, so be it.

    All others need not apply.

    Sincerely,
    Erick Erickson
    Editor-in-Chief, RedState.com

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    Romney is used to getting basically everything he wants. Plus, he and Anne apparently thought his presidency was ordained by God! I think it is still inconceivable to them that he lost fair and square, because more Americans liked and chose Obama. DUH! But rather than face the music about his FAILED candidacy and taking responsibility, he behaves like a sore loser and blames everybody else.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012
  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited November 2012

    According to Robert Parry, via OpEdNews:

    The decisive defeat of Mitt Romney in the presidential race and the forced resignation of ex-Gen. David Petraeus as CIA director have marginalized America's neoconservatives more than at any time in the past several decades, confining them mostly to Washington think tanks and media opinion circles.

    The neocons bet heavily on a Romney victory as they envisioned a return to power, like what they enjoyed under President George W. Bush when they paved the way for the U.S. invasion of Iraq and dreamed of forcing "regime change" in Iran and Syria. During the campaign, Romney largely delegated his foreign policy to a cast of neocon retreads from the Bush era.

    Yet, amid the wreckage of the past week -- with Romney blamed for a disastrous campaign and Petraeus embarrassed by a tawdry extramarital affair -- the neocons now find themselves without a strong ally anywhere inside the Executive Branch. And with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who sometimes sided with them, expected to leave shortly, the neocons could be even more isolated in the weeks ahead.

    This reversal of fortune has led some key neocons to send out what amount to peace feelers to the Obama administration. The Weekly Standard editor William Kristol and Washington Post columnist (and Brookings Institution senior fellow) Robert Kagan have joined in urging Republicans to show more flexibility regarding their opposition to tax hikes on the wealthy.

    Kristol made his views known on weekend talk shows, declaring on Fox News: "It won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires." Kagan penned an op-ed column for the Washington Post that stated: "It seems pretty obvious that a compromise will require both tax reform, including if necessary some tax increases, and entitlement reform, since those programs are the biggest driver of the fiscal crisis."

    Some on the Left have cited the tax flexibility of Kristol, in particular, as an indication of Republican willingness to compromise seriously with President Obama in a second term. However, the truth is that neocons have never been economic conservatives. Instead, they have favored lavishing money on military programs and financing warfare to implement their imperial strategy of imposing political change by force. The budget has never been a high priority.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    Yorkie....that was exactly what I was feeling just about every time Romney/Ryan opened their respective mouths.  Completely convinced people wanted what they had to offer ( wasn't it all endorsed by God himself ) and almost never mind what it was.  Personally imho --- both pretty much were just about always one un-empathetic smirk away from disaster which happened Nov 6th.  A lot of stress and strain on their families.  I think if Ryan or any Romney should ever choose to run at some later date......they should spend a long time immersing themselves in today's realities.  It is something that didn't happen this time.  If you want to dance guys.....get ready to pay the fiddler.

    Jackie 

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2012

    Now, this guy is a jerk.  Multi millionaire has a hissy fit and unloads on his minimum wage employees and working class customers.  I think he expects us to feel sorry for him.  Does he understand that he is not the only restaurant in town and that he does not rule the world?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/john-metz-hurricane-grill-wings-dennys_n_2122412.html?utm_hp_ref=small-business

     

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Belinda - I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this before vis a vis the two tools McCain and Graham and their unseemly comments on Susan Rice, but I was happy to see that Lawrence O'Donnell totally agreed with me on the whys of this one!  Those old fool tools want John Kerry to be SoS, not Susan Rice, so they can get their buddy Scott Brown back into the Senate.  And someone was wondering why Republicans had no problem if John Kerry was nominated for SoDefense instead....that's why!

    So happy Obama became obviously disturbed at the treatment Susan Rice was getting from those old fool tool BFFs.  These BFFs have tagged teamed before, so many times, in the same absurd way. I wish they could just be put away in a toolbox somewhere.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Pip...the list of places to boycott are certainly growing...ofcourse, I don't go to any of these restaurants that seem to have a problem with Obamacare, but once in a blue moon I step into a Macy's and until Donald Trump removes his ties and socks or whatever he sells there, I don't really need to go there either.

    Forbes just came out with the top places to do business in the world....NZ and Denmark topped the list.  Both have Universal healthcare, so maybe since these US businesses have a problem with Obamacare, Obama should just work on Single Payer for these poor businesses.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    What happens to the lemmings when their spokespeople start talking reasonably? (Or atleast pretend to act reasonably.)  btw, I see no danger in that yet, but a few are rising to the top...Jindl, Christie....

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    Jackie, I don't know what it will take to get the entitled few in this country to wake up. As I have mentioned before my husband and I are in the percent that will get higher taxes, unless Obama raises the cutoff above where it is now. Nobody likes to pay higher taxes, but those who are more blessed need to help the country a little more than those who are less well off, imho.

    Kam, without any proof of Rice having misbehaved, those idiots have NO chance of blocking her. I hope Obama sticks to his guns, and that Kerry does not take the SoD position. We need every vote in the Senate! And I totally agree that the two stooges want to put Brown in the Senate. 

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited November 2012

    What happens to those chain restaurants in Canada - like Denny's and Papa John's where health care is already built into the system? I haven't heard about a surcharge or reducing workers's hours here. Of course, health care here is not dependent on the employer and people get it no matter what the number of hours they work.  Still, somehow, the taxes paid go in part to health care.

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