Starting Chemo July 2012
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Melanie - I also surprised myself by feeling more "down" mentally the better I felt physically. Part of it is like an ultra marathon runner. They run over 90 kms through terrible hardship, and when they turn the corner and see the finishing line they collapse. We are the same - I think we put all our energy into getting through the chemo, and not worrying our family and friends and when it is finished we have time to mourn and reflect on what we have lost. Unfortunately my family and friends all think it is over when the chemo is finished, but I realised my life is never going to be the way it was before BC. I am working through it slowly, and coming to terms with it all. Our lives will never be the same, but it is life, albeit a different kind of life, and it can also be good. Peace and big hugs to you.
skimommi - the neulasta injection works well, but your counts go up and down. My counts were the lowest once when they should have been at their highest. It was the one cycle though that I didn't have the neulasta injection. Always be aware of germs without being paranoid, and don't let anyone near you who is sick. Theoretically - you counts are lowest days 7-9. Oh be careful handling money. It is full of germs. If I am not mistaken I read that is how the saying "Filthy Lucre" came about. Good luck with your chemo. Hope it goes really well for you.
It was my first day back at work today. I am on phased return, so do reduced hours for a month - gradually building them up. It felt like my first day at school! Anyway my colleagues were very kind, and are easing me into everything gradually.
emilybrooke - have you made your final decision yet?
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Congrats to all those who are finished and those near the end of treatment!!
I will be plugging along for a bit with a few until mid december then continuing with Herceptin for a year with a BMX and reconstruction somewhere early new year.
Regarding working during treatment I took a full year leave. Luckily I have insurance and was able to do so, I am so greatful for that! My job is Director Of Care in a Seniors Retirement Home. Not only is it mentally taxing but we experience respiratory and enteric viruses especially this time of year! I find it takes all the energy I have just to raise my 4 year old and puppy being on my own.
Regarding hair, it started as soon as the AC was finished and is a nice soft fluffy Q-tip like 1/2 inch growth right now
The eyebrows and eyelashes are almost non-exsistant.
Because my neutrophils were 0 last round I qualified for nuprogen this time which I was thankful for because my daughter had a nasty cold and so far I was able to avoid it.
Hope everyone had a wonderful SE-free weekend
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I remember my mother telling me when she finished chemo 3 years ago she went through a depression and felt totally lost for a while. When your days are filled with appointments and so many people asking how you are doing and truly concerned for your well being almost daily. Your entire year is consumed with cancer and its treatments then it all stops... People think you are done, cured and will bounce right back and continue on where you left off as if nothing happened. She said she even missed the Doctors appts. (not the treatments of course)
It takes a while to get to some kind of normal again and you should try to find whatever helps you get there; support groups, counseling, antidepressants etc.
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HI Skimommi - that is so interesting (re: your doc telling you, you could only do TC as part of a study). I have always heard that medicine is very much an "art" and you sure see that in action as you read through these boards and hear the different treatments and approaches. Definitely proves there is no one right answer - as we see so many successes! TC is the cocktail of choice for breast cancer for the group that my doc is affiliated with. They are part of UCLA. I wasn't part of a study.
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I know I seem extra chatty today but I have to share.
It still amazes me how ignorant some people can be!
I live in a condo and booked the party room for my family Christmas. I had to sign some papers and submit a security deposit. I went to the office with my usual hat and no make-up. The woman wouldn't even look at me! While holding a pen in her hand she asked me to sign on the dotted line. I clearly had no pen on me. I had to ask, "may I please borrow your pen?" She actually hesitated and begrudgingly said o.k. ! It's cancer lady, you can't catch it!!!
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Natl12 - I don't have it on the web but you can get a taste of it on my blog. It's based on this entry - What a year hath wrought. I'll see if I can post the actual essay on here.
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Hi Emily,
Hope your return to work goes well. I teach at the college level and was worried about germs too, but I do not have as many students as you do. I am trying not to worry too much about it, but only recently started going into more crowded places. The sense of normalcy at my office is helpful, but I find that I am far less patient than I used to be. Little details of faculty meetings and minor concerns just seem so silly to me now.
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Thanks, Maddie. It's helpful to hear your positive words of encouragement. I hope that your first day back at work went well. The sorting out of what the new life will be like is really daunting. I experienced exactly what you describe with the feeling better physically and the feeling worse emotionally. Need to find a goal and a way to get some more purpose in my life again.
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Lifeonitsside - Your writing is beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. It really touched me.
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Life - I just finished reading some of your midlife posts - Amazing! I really enjoyed reading them.
Melanie - Thanks! I have actually decided to go in to work for a few hours this Thursday in order to get my photocopies ready and get some materials to plan from home.
Maddie - Thanks for following up with me. I decided against the radiation. After speaking with my oncologist (again) she helped me understand the statistics more. For the small percentage (2%) that it is going to lower my chances of local recurrence, I have opted against it. I will continue the Herceptin for 1 year and Tamoxifen for 5 years.
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I am a week away from a normal life!!! My radiation appointments are counting down (4 left).
I am so close to the end that I have started the cycle of follow up appointments. First one is this afternoon with my MO. On Friday I realized they'll be checking my CBC and I just dread the thought of being stuck again!! I haven't had any needle sticks since 9/4 and don't want one now! One would think that after all I've been thru, a blood draw would be a piece of cake by now but NOOOOOOOO lol. I also realized I will be leaving with my script for Tamoxifen. Not sure how I feel about that yet. The question at the top of my list is "How does taking Prozac affect the Tamoxifen?" I've read a study that prozac or it's generics has been shown to decreast its effectiveness so I am concerned about that. But God knows I wouldn't have been able to get thru the past 6 months without it. I actually started taking it over a year ago because of some health issues my husband was going thru on top of finding out I suffer from PMDD. Oh the things that would come out of my mouth!!! I felt so bad when I would explode and no matter what I did, I just couldn't stop myself! Been so much better since I started the meds, much more level moods. When it came down to it, it was pretty easy to swallow my pride and tell my GP what was going on rather than face my DH of 25 years walking out on me. -
Hello everyone, just catching up on the news.
Susan, I'm sorry to hear you hit a rough patch, and hope things are going better.
Melanieb, this is a good, caring board to be on. I second everyone who says seek out support services. You are certainly not alone. I have read a lot about survivors experiencing depression after treatment.
Skimommi, the ability to work during chemo is really dependent on the individual, the work environment and the response to chemo and Neulasta/Neupogen. I am in awe of the women who were able to work all the way through chemo. I had three week cycles of TAC, and took the first few days to about a week-and-a-half off. Somebody on here had not taken a sick day in 11 years. I find that simply amazing.
Maddie57 sent me a message, which I really appreciated. I had surgery on November 7, right mastectomy and left lumpectomy. Compared to chemo, it was a piece of cake! Still waiting for pathology report, but my surgeon took out five nodes and all looked clear. So things are definitely looking up!
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Confession-it is me who did not take sick days. But a bit of history--besides strong German stock. Early in my nursing career I worked in a pediatric isolation ICU for very little very ill children. I was probably exposed to--and then immune to almost everything. Then, I had 3 children in 4 years--another bit of immunity building. My 4th was born 8 years after my 3rd so more immunity to kid crap. Intermingled some acute psych--again not a healthy group and home health peds. I was probably immune to any and everything. Just did not catch anything or get sick. Have taught nursing for the last long period of time--exposed to adult infections from students and still did not catch anything. Until my whites dropped to squat with chemo and have been on antibiotics twice since starting Taxol even with neupogen. Was able to avoid during the AC protocol.
Stride--so good to hear from you again. And good to know surgery was easy compared to chemo. Mine is upcoming--not sure when--but hope prior to mid-January. What is next on your laundry list?
Taxol #7 for me tomorrow. I hope.
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Susan, I did not realize that was you! Sometimes things blend together when reading a lot of posts at once. How are things going? What is the latest?
I am still waiting to get pathology results and meet with my surgeon and onco before I know the next steps. If margins are clear, I will not have to do radiation. My surgeon took off as much skin as she could while still being able to close the wound, and she took off a slice of the pectoral muscle. So I'm hopeful she got it all. Last time I talked to my onco, she wanted me to have genetic testing and consider a clinical trial of Halaven. But if the path report confirms clear nodes and clear margins, I wonder if her recommendations will change.
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Yay! One more Taxol. Struggling with a bad cold right now after our little one got sick. Luckily no fever but I am watching the temp very closely. The Benadryl yesterday at least cleared my sinuses for a little while so I could breathe. Hopefully I will be back on these boards soon. I jump on to read but feel that yucky cold feeling so I am not posting much
Also at our boys school the parents have to volunteer a lot so I volunteered to be their Parent Club treasurer. Well,I think it has been so good for me by keeping my mind off BC but it feels like a job. It's the only volunteering I have to do but what is that old saying? No good deed goes unpunished? It is taking up more time than it was supposed to. LOL. I shouldn't complain because I am grateful they created this specific position for me. I probably would not complain too much if I just felt better.
Hopefully this weekend I can get back on these boards and wish everyone encouragement during their journey.
Oh yeah. I set up my plastic surgeon appt so my ONC won't yell at me for at least not speaking with him before radiation begins. Still not convinced to have implants but I will speak with him.
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Stride - happy to hear the surgery went well!
Today is the last day of my medical leave from work. I'm excited to meet my students on Monday!
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Here's something that only other chemo patients will laugh about.
It's Friday afternoon at work and I'm a bit bored. I've been using my cell phone to take pictures of the back of my head to see how much hair is there and I was SHOCKED when I saw how dark it was!I'm not seeing any curl yet, but at least it is coming back in the same color it was before.
I hope that treatments are ending for everyone and this thread will soon be July 2012 chemo GRADUATES. I was so glad to have this board to go to in those wee hours of the morning when sleep wouldn't come. I drew such comfort from knowing I was never going thru this alone because there were cyber angels with me. -
Well put PAeaglesFan....I second that motion.
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PAeagles--
What a good use of your cell phone!
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Got my pathology report back--clear margins!!! It turned out to be triple-negative, so I had a false PR-positive result on my biopsy. It looks like I probably will not need radiation and might do a clinical trial for chemo, but not sure yet.
Hope you're all having a good weekend!
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Stride - Congratulations that is terrific news. It must be such a weight off your shoulders! Does the clinical trial for chemo involve having more chemotherapy?
Emily - good luck with your first day back at work. I have just finished my first week back at work. It went well, but I felt like the new girl at school. Couldn't seem to remember anything. By Wednesday I was totally finished and threw a bit of a wobbly - shivery and feverish, but it settled down, and next week should be better. It was lovely to see all my colleagues back at work.
I had some wonderful news on Friday, and wanted to share it with you all. My BS told me I could only have the permanent implant put in after chemo had finished. I thought that included Herceptin, although I know it is a targeted therapy and not strictly a chemo drug. Anyway it appears I can have the surgery on Herceptin, so if I have the operation whilst on Herceptin I will be totally finished with all the treatments in July instead of October. The TE is also so uncomfortable, I will be glad to exchange it for the real implant. I could have skipped out of there!!
PA eagles - love your hair story. I keep looking at my stubble. If I look at it in a certain light it looks a bit longer. The bald bits haven't filled in yet, and it may be wishful thinking about the length, but hey you take what you can get!
To all those who are counting down - hang in there. Thinking of you. Please stay in touch once you have finished to let us know how you are all getting along. WE can compare hair stories.
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My hair started growing back after my fifth chemo but it's still kind of spotty. I might leave it shaved through radiation until it really starts to grow back in earnest.
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stride, congratulations on clear margins! Maddie, it must feel good to be back at work *and* get to finish treatment earlier than expected. Yay for you! My hair is growing like crazy all over. It's mostly blond and fine but my head has definite brown shadow all over. Lots of gray I never had before too. It's still nowhere near enough scalp coverage to stop the headcovers though.
Well I only have 5 Taxol left but I'm getting a PICC line put in next week. I'm tired of getting a hard painful bump at every IV site. What's more I'm going to travel over the Thanksgiving holidays, which will be my first trip since July. Heck with it, I haven't had any trouble with infection or anything yet so I'm going to risk it. It will be a 12 hour car trip followed by several days in the mountains with about eight people. There is a wood-burning hot tub that I will do my darndest to get the OK to use to use despite the PICC line.
I've kept up with the L Glutamine and still only very minimal symptoms of neuropathy. So grateful to this board for that info.
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Another change in my treatment plan as of yesterday. Since the last 2 MRIs have shown "new areas of concern" AKA new malignancy; surgery is now scheduled for December 12th instead of January 2nd. I had Taxol/Herceptin 7 Wednesday. Will have a break from chemo to try to regain some strength, red and white cells, and anything else the chemo has destroyed except the cancer until surgery. Then will have a break for healing and restart chemo to finish the remaining 5 Taxol and the year of Herceptin. After Taxol is finished will start radiation. While Taxol has not been as hard as AC, it has been very difficult. Am still nauseated and vomiting often, have almost no true fingernails left, lots of bone pain (from Taxol and neupogen), and more. But, of course, most concern is new areas of cancer while on chemo. So--will be on a bit of a break from infusion of toxic waste until surgery. I have reminded my treatment team to quit referring me to as an "Outlier with a very virulent form of breast cancer". Got it.
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SusanHG123 - So sorry to hear about the new areas of concern. Glad you are getting in for surgery sooner. Hopefully this will do the trick. Stay strong!
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SusanHG12, geez, you really are having a hard time of it
Not nice at all, to say the least.
I hope your new treatment plan IS the best one for you. Sending positive energy your way. Best wishes and
((((hugs)))))
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Susan - I am so sorry to hear the chemo has not had much effect on the tumour after all the harsh chemo regime you have been through. I hope the surgery goes well. Take it easy and try and build yourself up before you go. Sending healing vibs your way.
Ann - hope you have a great Thanksgiving. It will do you good to get away, and a car is so much better than a plane, as at least you can sleep better. Take a blanket, pillow and an eyepatch so the on coming headlights don't wake you up and try and sleep as much as you can on the journey. Hot tub sounds super!!!
My eyebrows and eyelashes still seem to be coming out even though I am 6 weeks post chemo. I had hoped I would hang on to the last ones, but not sure if I will now
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Stride: Congratulations on clear margins. I am so excited for you.
Maddie57: Yay!
Ann: Have a great time!
Susan: I am so sorry to hear about the MRI results and wishing you some good rest. Sending you big hugs!
I am sorry if I have missed anyone. I have been fighting something for over a week and went into the doctor on Friday since it felt like Knives stabbing me in my throat every time I swallowed. My fear is that it was strep since it is making its rounds around our 2 little ones' school but thankfully it isn't. My ONC put me on antibiotics just to take care of any infection. Slight fever,etc.... So she wanted to take a conservative approach.
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Sending love to those who are struggling right now and cheers to those with successes!
Tonight, I'm having my "No Mo Chemo" party to celebrate the end of that section of treatment. In January, when I'm done with rads and all, plan to do something to really celebrate. Until then, this will do. -
Susan, sorry to hear about your report. Are you having lumpectomy or mastectomy?
ditto w/ Life.....love to all and hope you can find peace in all this.
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