Starting Chemo July 2012

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  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2012

    Just returned from 3rd MRI and meeting with surgeon. Not as expected. Still not considered a surgical candidate. MRI showed an additional "area of concern" so back to imaging for another titanium clip to be placed under MRI guidance. If my counts stay, and IF i can get through the next 6 weeks of Taxol and Herceptin, and IF i stay well the 4 weeks after might have surgery 2 January 2013. If, if, if. Then, in 4 weeks if healing will start rads and return to Herceptin. Was very very down when I left.

    Came home--3 hour drive--to a dark house. Light candles, started a fire. Called electric company. Apparently someone had purposefully pulled the breaker handles and stopped all power to the house. Since this has not happened in the past 14 years am doubting a band of teen aliens. More likely the 6'7" %*&^**who walked out on me the day my port was placed with his new penis in hand. Filing police report tomorrow. 

    Now going to have a cup of hot tea and a long nights sleep.

    Much love to all

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2012

    SusanHG123: Sending you a big hug and hoping you had a good sleep.

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited November 2012

    Thrilled to be back in a house with power this morning. It came back late last night. My sister's boyfriend, also hubby's best friend, took us in all week after the hurricane.

    Nat - school was canceled all week and still waiting to hear what this week brings. My principal reported that the building was not damaged but many of the surrounding streets had some big issues preventing people from getting to the building.

    Life - CONGRATS! I am so happy that you finished! As so many have pointed out, sisters are such a gift in life. I don't how I would have gotten through this if I didn't have my sister. Since I've been away from work, my husband has spent a great deal of time at his job and my sister took me to every single chemo treatment. I continue to pray for your sister.

    Susan - I am also sending you a big hug and positive energy.

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    Hi Susan- what a HORRIBLE day - I am so sorry. The power must have been the last straw - sending you big hugs!!! Why are you not a surgical candidate. Has the chemo not shrunk your tumour?

    I wanted to send you a private message about the dentist, but can't seem to remember how I did it last time. Whilst on holiday in the Greek Isles I broke a tooth in half on an olive pip. I'm beginning to feel like Job in the bible!! Anyway to cut a long story short I had to do something about it, as one half fell out the next day. A Greek dentist fixed my tooth. He said you can have dental treatment whilst on chemo. I contacted my own dentist who is a personal friend and a fantastic dentist, and he said the only contra indication to dental treatment is a temperature, or radiotherapy to the head and neck. Hope this helps with your dental crown issue.I know it is probably not high on your agenda at the moment, but if the broken crown is a front tooth it will make you feel better.

    I agree with you about the hair issue. "All I want for Christmas..." Well it's not my two front teeth, but a bit of hair.

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2012

    Susan, Sending good thoughts your way. Take Care.

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited November 2012

    Susan-so sorry you have to deal with this all at once.  Sending hugs and positive energy...

  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited November 2012

    lifeonitsside Wonderful news about your sister.  AND congratulations on the end of chemo.

    Good recoveries to all.  I will keep you posted on my therapy for lymphedema.  It didn't get started last week because the therapist wanted a clearance from my cardiologist first because of possible complications from my heart surgeries.  I got an echocardiogram, and the cardiologist said the valves weren't leaking any more that they were a year ago, so I'm cleared to start treatment.

  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited November 2012

    Susan - you definitely need some good news. I'm down about the lymphedema, but then I realize, at least I have gone through the mastectomy and recovered from it. I'm sending hugs and good thoughts your way.  Nat

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2012

    Nat, I hope your LE therapy is successful.  Susan, hugs to you.  I hope things have settled down.

    Well I just wanted to report I still have no neuropathy with the daily L glutamine.  I'm feeling a lot better about facing seven more Taxol infusions.

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited November 2012

    #10 done yay.. two more week then I am finished! Unto rad.

    Great news Ann! I am a fan of it too. Madelyn, are you on schedule?

    Big hugs to all.

  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited November 2012

    Hi all, after superfreakstorm 'Sandy', my last (6th) Chemo unfortunatelywas rescheduled for 5 days later, but I had it yesterday. After I was done with my infusion, the amazing nurses and my Oncologist that had taken care of me since July 19 surrounded me, and I got a certificate, balloons and hugs,  for completing my chemo streatments. After having accumulated numerous leadership and leadership certificates and awards over the years, that was definitely an interesting and unexpected and surreal experience.

    My godzilla has shrunken, and on 11/12 I see my breast surgeon so assess the tumor once more and schedule MRI and discuss surgery. After that next phase-radiation. All amidsts Thanksgiving and Black Friday (I am an electronics and movie deal hunting fiend!). In a few hours I get what I hope will be my last 'Neulasta' shot, and then my days of side effects will follow. I hope I never have to take this journey again, but I am so grateful that am part of this group to share the oddities that come with this entire process. Whether a long road lies ahead for us, or one has already passed, the shared experience, for me, personally has been a life safer to keep my relativity in check. This will always be a part of my life now, but all of you have helped me float me through what has been the hardest thing I have ever faced, personally, mentally and emotionally, at 36. My wife and I have taken all of your collective support and suggestions to the chemo chair every treatment and talked at length about this 'collective' experience with each other to keep us strong and to keep us hopefully and thankful.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    Welcome to the other side Boobzilla Laughing
    The hard part is over now and so glad to hear it did its job and was worth enduring.

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    Hi boobzilla - Congratulations - am so thrilled to hear you had your last treatment. It must have been awful delaying it a week, when you were so psyched up for it!!! I had mine 5 weeks ago, and am anxiuosly checking the mirror for signs of new hair. I reckon the armpit and leg hair check is the most accurate. Murphy's law says they will grow there first, as the armpit is so hard to shave on the mastectomy side! Alas no hair yet, but am feeling so much better.

    PAeagles fan - how is the radiation treatment going?

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    I am almost finished Maddie, thanks for asking.  I've had 28 sessions so far and tomorrow I will have the 1st of 8 boosts and then I'm finished.  Nov 19th is my target date for the end of active treatments.  I won't know how to act!  I have noticed I am tired, but I think it's because I have to get up an hour earlier so I can get my session done before work. 

    Hair update, last chemo was 9/4...That's NINE WEEKS ago already!  Hair is returning everywhere.  I've shaved my legs and pits twice already except the side that's being zapped... shaving is a nono.  Not a big deal since the rads seem to kill the hair too.  I was really kinda shocked to see how fast the leg hairs had grown back.  They were light colored and much softer so I didn't really notice.  My hair is coming in pretty well too.  It's very soft and fuzzy and looks just like baby hair.  I'm glad because I am so sick and tired of keeping it covered. So much so that  I'm sitting here topless at work! I've had a few co-workers tell me how 'cute' I look without hair... they're so nice but what a bunch of liars! lol  My DH tells me I'm turning into a hippy and should get a hair cut.  NOT gonna happen! Some of them are about an inch long.  I think they were the ones that started growing back in right after I shaved my head.  
    Along with the return of my hair, I was dismayed to have my period return this week. Yell  It was one of the bright spots of chemo and I got spoiled darnit!!  I guess that means my body is healing, right?  

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2012

    Congratulations boobzilla!  

    And PAEagles fan, congratulations for you too.  Hair and a period-- the joys of womanhood ;-)

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2012

    Has been a bit of a trying few days. Filed a police report after the issue with the electricity and breaker boxes over the w/end. The detective was a delight. His mom had breast cancer when he was younger-he was very supportive of BC research and moms in general. Had a few words about the kind of person who would flip the breakers.

    Started feeling a bit congested earlier in the week. Cough worsened. Went for Taxol #7 and Herceptin #8 today and was sent away. MO said that while counts were good (had neupogen Th/S/S this week instead of Th/F/S) would probably drop kick me far more than missing 1 week. I actually took it well as I was really feeling poorly by then. Even agreed to stay away from work today and tomorrow and possibly even Friday. This will be the first sick days--other than 1/2 day years ago--I have taken in 11 years @ this university. My strong German upbringing--Embarassed And I really don't get sick. Guess my years of working pediatric and psych nursing where I was exposed--and now immune-to everything. 

    Picked up antibiotics. Made my children's cure all for everything--Mom's Chicken Noodle Soup, and slept. 

    No neupogen this week--so bone pain should decrease as days progress. But--an automatic move from January 2 to January 9 for surgery @ the earliest. When I feel better this may bother me--but right now am good. Watching Magic Mike. Not for the plot or story line. Is none. None @ all. But those guys dancing---not too shabby :)

  • Itsalltemporary
    Itsalltemporary Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2012

    Boobzilla - congrats on being done with chemo!!! You made it to the other side!

    PAeaglesFAN - thanks for the rads update. Can't believe you are almost done. Glad to hear you are doing well and the side effects arent too bad. So when they talk about rads making you tired - what does that mean? Sleepy? Fatigued? Are you able to keep a pretty normal schedule? Your hair updates crack me up! I start radiation on the 26th.

    SusanHG123 - hang in there!

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited November 2012

    Congrats, Boobzilla!

    Just found out my essay, A Year In A Life, was accepted for me to perform at a local theater on Friday, November 16. Guess what it's about? It's a ten minute piece approximately and I'm excited/nervous about getting up and reading it/performing it. But I'm excited and think it'll be kind of a nice way to begin to put a pin in my journey.

    Have a consult on Monday with my RO and should have the plan for my radiation from there.

    Hang in there, ladies. It does get better.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    Itsalltemp-- SLEEPY!!  Not like the fatigue that you get from chemo at all.  (Good news is the muscle fatigue fades pretty quickly, I can now go up a whole flight of steps w/out having to stop halfway.)  I swear I can nap on demand now lol.  The colder weather doesn't help.  The dogs were snuggled with me in bed this morning and none of us wanted to get up.  
    When you start your sessions don't look at the whole number, break them down into bits and pieces.  Like 1/4-1/3 #10... etc.  It gives you a lot of little goals to achieve rather than one loooooong trip.  I started my boosts this morning so I have a whole new set of boob art and a fresh new sticker!  

    Susan, Glad to hear you had a nice officer taking care of you.  They probably can't do a whole lot about it, but it sounds like his caring attitude made you feel a lot better.  I have a few words about someone who would do something like that too >:-{  
    Hope the chicken soup and Magic Mike gets you back on your feet.  I haven't seen it yet, but perhaps will put it on my Christmas list Innocent

    Ann-- Yes... it's like going thru a second puberty Undecided

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    HI Pa eagles - how lovely that you are nearly finished. I'm sure you look gorgeous with your peach fuzz!!! When I have some peach fuzz the wig and scarves are outta here.

    lifeonitsside - congratulations I'm sure you will be fantastic. Are you going to wear your sexy pixie wig or show it how it is?

    Susan - glad to hear you had a compassionate, handsome young officer. Hope they catch the *** who did it

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited November 2012

    Maddie57 - I go bald and beautiful 98% of the time so it'll be bald!

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited November 2012

    Taxol #10 is over....thanks for asking whaevah. I'm still on schedule.  Last Taxol is TUESDAY 11/20, port removed 11/21.  11/26 plastic Surgeon fills up expander so as to prevent scar tissue forming around it.  11/28 Radiation simulation tattoos.  12/3 rads start.  Got my MIADERM cream ready.  

    My hair is coming back.  Just very fine.  Eyelashes/Eyebrows holding on by a thread.  

    Had a great appt with MO.  I told her about my family history of blood clots.  She decided she wants me to have the shots to shut down my ovaries--go through menopause then put me on Femara.  No tamoxifen for me-due to the blood clot SE.  

    So glad to her everyone is progressing, we are a strong bunch aren't we?

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2012

    This is just a general question for those that are post chemo. Is it strange to not be on a schedule? After 5 months of being on the chemo schedule, bloodwork, knowing the down days, knowing the days that are going to be up days, pills to take and fluids to keep in us. I am wondering what it will feel like emotionally to finish. I know it will be great to get back to a new routine that doesn't include chemo. It seems like we all have more work ahead of us, some having rads, finishing reconstruction and various hormone therapies. And we all have continuing doctor appts for the next few years. My chemo ends mid December. I'm a little scared that everyone is going to expect me to be back to normal (whatever that is) and I am going to still feel like I've been dragged behind a truck the past year. I don't think I'm going to pop back that quickly....feeling worried. 

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2012

    mamabr - how has your chemo been for you. Did you have many SEs from the AC? I am curious since that is what I will be having starting November 20th.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited November 2012

    Mamabr - One of the key things I've been doings reminding people that the SE's don't end just because the chemo has. They just don't know.



    Despite my chemo being over, there are still follow ups and rads to set up so there will be plenty to keep you busy.

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2012

    I listened to a very helpful interview on Dr radio (Sirius radio) a few weeks ago. I don't remember if it was on the oncology or psychiatric segment--but was over an hour. The person being interviewed had BC several years ago and was talking about the recovery time post-chemo/radiation/reconstruction. The time when others expected you to be back to normal. I found it most helpful and have on my list (which I keep misplacing) to contact for a copy. She talked about depression as on-going, fear of recurrence as on-going: even after the magical 5 year mark, the in your face of October. I think the air date was around September 14th only because it was around the time a MRI found my first new "area of concern" after I had been undergoing chemo. 

    Listening was helpful for me. I had already set myself up mentally for failure as I "expected" to become "normal" the minute chemo was over. When I was finished with AC I felt such a relief because everyone said how much easier Taxol was (and as a nurse I had actually told patients this). Yet, when I started Taxol, I still had nausea and vomiting, my counts were still low and I had to miss a week, I started on neupogen to maintain counts, the pain increased greatly, my nails look like crap, and on and on and on. I have had 6/12 Taxol but should have had 8/12. Missed one this week due to an infection. I did not miss any AC cycles. I know the year of Herceptin alone should be easier--but also know the "flu-like symptoms" are difficult for some patients and some still have white count problems. Radiation has other SEs. 

    I am trying to be kinder and gentler to myself. I actually took a couple days off work this week due to the infection. Stayed in PJs and worked on a quilt, took naps, and watched mindless TV. And finally made the decision to give up on breast conservation and go with the mastectomy. This right breast proves with every MRI it is trying to kill me despite massive amounts of chemotherapy. The minute my surgeon says I am a candidate for surgery I will have my pen ready to sign the permit. Does not mean I am not sad. But I am ready. 

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2012

    Susan I'm glad you got a couple days to rest and rejuvenate.

    Life, good luck with your upcoming performance.

    I had Taxol #6 today.  Also believe it or not I finally gave in and started drawing on brows and lashes with makeup.  I assume most everyone else started doing it sooner, but I'm just not a makeup person.  It was pretty strage to see a face in the mirror that looked like pre-cancer me.  My brows have been invisible for weeks now.

    My hair is growing like crazy.  It started coming in right after my last AC.  There's a lot of white fuzz, a lot of brown, and a lot of new gray.  The gray is in patches.  If this keeps up I'll be calico.  I just can't wait til it looks like a respectable buzz cut and I can ditch the hats.  I have this weird giant bony knob on the back of my head and I refuse to go hatless until that thing has coverage.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    Hello all of you beautiful warriors! I have been trying to read through many of the chemo posts from those of you that started early this year and learn what is in store. I also posted this question in the February 2012 post. I would love to hear from anyone that worked during their treatments. How did that go and did anyone start out with the intention of working and then was unable to due to SE's? I anticipate taking a long weekend after treatments, and can work from home a couple of days a week when feeling up for it.  But, for insurance purposes I want to be realistic and if I need to plan more time out of work do that now. I heard it is easier to file for STD in the beginning rather than trying to do the right thing by working through treatment and if learning that I can't make it the STD company makes it more difficult to apply mid-treatments.

    Did anyone continue a regular workout regimen during treatment? Or did that become too much? I was pretty active prior to DX, and then everything came to a halt. Following my BMX I've tried to at least keep up some walking each day. I was hoping to utilize the gym during treatment, but have also heard that may not be wise due to the germ factor.

    I should begin chemo in December. Meeting with a new MO on the 20th. Pretty sure I will be told the same as my current MO, that I will take 6 rounds of AC/T, but getting the second opinion because of this particualr MO's reputation in working with young women. Also, the facility offers integrative medicine, such as massage therapy, acupuncture, etc. on site. I would like to take advantage of those treatments the day following chemo, and think it wil be much easier to do it all at one location. So far I have been driving myself crazy trying to locate and coordinate the additional care.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2012

    skimommi--I have worked thru all of this.  But it really depends on each individual.  What kind of work do you do? If I had a physical labor job, I would have been off no questions asked.  I am lucky to be a secretary and to have a very understanding boss.  I would take off the day of my treatments (Tuesday) and would usually go home early on Fridays because that was my "bad" day.  I wasn't ill, but I wasn't myself.  Blurry vision, dizzy... those kinds of things.
    If your job is really mentally taxing, you need to take the "chemo fog" into consideration.  It makes it difficult to concentrate or remember things.  I cross-stitch and was really not able to work on any complicated projects while I was in chemo because I found myself miscounting, using the wrong colors, missing stitches... etc. I certainly wouldn't want my pharmacist to work through chemo!!
    As for working out... well that wasn't my cup of tea before so I can't help you there.  BUT!!  Walking was STRONGLY ENCOURAGED and really helped me get back to feeling more like myself after each treatment.  I think it gets your heart rate up and gets that poison flushed out.  Your MO will probably tell you to do what you did before chemo as long as you feel ok.  

    Ann---LOL @ Calico!!  I spent a good 10 minutes admiring my new hair in a mirror yesterday and I could actually see that some of the long ones are different at the end.  They look finer and lighter until you get to a certain length and then they look normal again.  My guess is that these are the 'hangers on' from chemo and that is what caused the difference.  I was playing around with filling in my eyebrows the other night but they looked terrible so I just left it go.  Now I see that they are coming in quite quickly.  I had them shaped before this and the areas that use to be gone are just about filled in!
    Mama--Life is 100% correct!  Life after chemo ends gets back to normal eventually.  Folks that went thru it before me said 2-3 months after it ends you'll feel like your old self again and they were right.  I have been blessed that my SE's were very minimal during treatment and none of them have been permanent.  Horrible tastes, neuropathy, hair loss, taxo-tears, chemo-pause... they are all becoming a memory now.  I was very disappointed to wake up the day after my last chemo treatment and not have a full head of hair!  Just keep telling yourself "this too shall pass" and know that it will be the last you feel that way.  (Prayers for all of us that we never go thru it again!!)

  • roadwarrior28
    roadwarrior28 Member Posts: 301
    edited November 2012

    Skimommi - I normally travel for work every week so I wasn't able to keep that up due to germs, but I worked from home throughout chemo. I think I would have been able to go to the office as well if my company had one - we all travel. I had chemo Fridays and was able to work by Monday most times. I used intermittent STD for chemo days and as needed.



    I also used acupuncture and got frequent massages and I think those helped a lot.

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