I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    So many conspiracies, so many impeachments.  May I say this --- get over it.  You LOST, resoundingly.   You could do so much good --- you could help rather than incite for things that just aren't going to happen. There is a country to run.....if you don't want to be part of the solution, stop being the problem.  That was why you lost.

    Jackie

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Blue -beautiful pic!!  How artistic and your daughter is so beautiful.

    A friend of mine is in India and somehow this photo, she posted on FB, made me think of those that don't have clarity from their bubble.  In any case, it is so India!

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2012

    Blue, I had missed the picture you posted, saw the comments so went back and looked.  She's so beautiful!

    Edited to add:  Geez what is it with Republicans and impeachment everytime they don't win.  What crybabies!  We lived through the Bush administration I'm pretty sure that if they put on their big girl panties/big boy pants they can live through the Obama administration.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble.

    Not quite sure why the Macbeth witches' chant just rose to mind.  Maybe it's the lack of reality in the bubble - or the idea of the raw political ambition, ready to do anything for power.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited November 2012

    Blue, I'm so excited to see more wedding pix -- that one was stunning!  Just love the blue shoes!

    Message to Speaker Boehner:  Once again, John, what part of "we won" don't you understand?  Let's see now, 303 EC votes, a larger percentage of the popular vote, more seats in the Senate, and you're trying to tell me we all should agree (re raising taxes on the top 1%) to what the House wants -- or else?"

    I was listening to some Repub spokespersons last evening, who again said "no new taxes" but instead were quite comfy with getting rid of certain deductions (mortgage and so on) that will end up costing the average citizen just as much - or more -- in the end.  And of course the host didn't bother to say "Well, that's essentially the same thing".  Useless hosts, most of them.......

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    Blue, saw all the posts about your daughter's picture and had to go back to find it - GORGEOUS!

    Actually, I had seen part of the picture, which just showed a room. I didn't understand the photo, but going back I moved the screen to the right and saw it all. She is so lovely!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    Just peeked over the garden wall and laughed at the comment that Obama could only have won through massive fraud.  And she just can't wait until it's uncovered.  In other words, no evidence of fraud, but it has to exist, because how else could Romney have lost.  It couldn't possibly be that the convervative ideas R. spouted prior to his latest incarnation as a moderate are deeply unpopular.  Or that no one trusts R. because he has held every side of every position?  Or that people actually perceive the country as slowly starting to recover?  Here's what they really can't stand: the fact that the whites alone in this country cannot dominate politics - that the Southern strategy developed by Nixon no longer works - and that the only way for this country to go forward is to build coalitions among people of diverse backgrounds.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited November 2012

    Blue - absolutely splendid - what a beautiful young lady!

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited November 2012

    See that someone from the dark side had her "cup of poison" for breakfast this morning - time to give up watching Faux News methinks!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    Sorry everyone....frustration talking in my earlier post.  I think of the phrase physician, heal thyself and think of the Republicans with the phrase, examine thyself.  Rather than searching for sometimes really odd reasons and answers outside oneself, perhaps using the flexibility to be gut-wrenchingly honest about hows and whys from the inside out --- would help to get on a track that could lead to success. 

    We were fortunate to have had President Obama for four years and now extremely fortunate that he will be be paving the way to handing over the Presidency in four more years to some one who will carry on the huge recovery we expect to have from our near demise of Bush's 8 horrific years on Pennsylvania Ave. 

    I have every reason to expect the Repug strong arm tactics will not be tolerated.  Amen.

    Jackie

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    I'm still tired from Tuesday night, so can only speak via pictures to those stirring the pot Alexandria mentioned:

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    Kam - yeah, great pic, great message!

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    Alexandria, I saw that too. First time I have heard that accusation, including from the most rabid Republics in the media. Goes to show how great is the power of delusion. 

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2012

    Kam - love it!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    Trump's not the only one who needs antipsychotic drugs.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2012

    Blue, it looks like your daughter had a great photographer.  We are also waiting for the professional photos.  I wonder why it takes so long with computers and technology at their dispossal.  Remember in our days, they actually used film and had to develop it.  I think the parents are the most impatient waiting to see the results.

    The last Helen and Margaret has to be my favourite.  

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    Oh, there was fraud all right. Plenty of Republican fraud trying to suppress the vote! True the Vote was barred by a judge from the polls in Franklin County, Ohio (where Columbus is located) for fraud, including forging signatures on documents they submitted as supporting their application to observe at the polls. They are now facing felony fraud investigations. Voting machines that changed votes for Obama/Biden to Romney/Ryan -- caught on tape! Massive fraud right now in Maricopa County, AZ (home of that lowlife Arpaio) where tens of thousands of provisional ballots remain uncounted in traditionally Democratic precincts -- more ballots than Jeff Flake beat Richard Carmona by. Lots of fraud ... And our President won re-election in spite of it.



    One of the main reasons the Republicans lost is that they are simply delusional. They cannot grasp objective reality. They will continue to lose as long as they continue to live in their little Salvador Dali world through the looking glass. Personally, I hope they stay there and keep losing. At some point, some non-delusional Republican will surface and lead the sane away, leaving the rest to bay at the moon.



    L

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Ok, I have one thing to say, said it before.  These nut jobs a) need to get a math & science education and b) if they want to have a discussion of fraud, look at 1) your main news source - Fox "News" and 2) Rasmussen Polls.  They were the real perps of fraud, committed on YOU.

    OMG - "Benghazi."  Do they not get what that was about???  You are being used by the rightwing sound machine as propoganda mouthpieces.

    Turn it off and wake up to what's going on in the real world!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    There are things one need not even dignify with an answer.

    Tea Party Rick Scott's efforts to suppress the vote have failed. His state looks like an arse - STILL counting ballots. And Obama is ahead - BUT if he were behind it wouldn't matter.

    The anger BY republicans OVER fraud is most likely that THEIR fraud tactics didn't work.

    I am also loving how many people totally wasted their money, including Sheldon Adelson and that candidate in CT.

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited November 2012

    Blue - there has never been a more beautiful bride! Fantastic photography! It looks like a picture from a haute couture magazine! WOWZA!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    Absolutely love the money wasted by Adelson.

    Problem with delusional people - they think their crazy view of reality is real and the rest of us are crazy. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    Blue - aaaahhhhhh......MORE, MORE, MORE...and the SHOES, oh, the shoes. GORGEOUS, thrilling, DIVINE!!!!

    Ok, while you wonderful women are busy reading stuff that belongs in the nearest sewer, PLEASE stop, and take a few minutes to read this:http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/nov/08/barack-obama-elie-wiesel-book

    NOW, is this a great wonderful world, or what.  YES. WE. CAN.  All the $$$$$$$$$$, down the sewer with those evil words you're reading - what worked: PEOPLE WORKING.  Meeting in small groups, planning together, Knocking on doors,making phone calls: ORGANIZING.  That word sound familiar?  COMMUNITY ORGANIZING.  Saul Alinksky ( whoooooaaaaaa, is that a bad word?Innocent) COMMUNITY ORGANIZING.  Grassroots, boots on the ground, driving people ( who have become friends) to the polls to vote. GOTV 

    A coalition of PEOPLE: made up of all the listeners to the CAll to Action heard at the 2004 Deomocratic Convention: Red states, Blue States, all colors, all creeds, gay, straight, young, old ( Fired Up? Ready to Go?) that phrase came from a WOMAN on the 2008 Campaign - go back & read the last few paragraphs of BHO's 2008 Victory Speech in Chicago, and come back and tell me if you have dry eyes?)a COALITION of AMERICANS created this victory.  A COALITION that is growing with the growth of the country, and will continue to grow.

    OK, the 100%, not the 53% ( 100 minus 47%) being spoken to by another political party.

    SO, you wonderful women, STOP READING THE POISION.  Celebrate, thank yourself and your friends, and get ready for SUPPORTING THIS PRESIDENT for the next four years.  And keep an eye on HRCWink

    We've still got work to do, but now it's time to CELEBRATE.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited November 2012

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/republicans-bet-everything-and-obama-won-it-all.html

    Good article about what was done the last 4 years.  It failed miserably ... but hurt a lot of Americans in the process.  I can only be happy that it took them down in flames also at the end.   

    http://billmoyers.com/2012/11/07/embrace-the-fiscal-cliff/

    Re the 'fiscal cliff' ... The Bush tax cuts will expire unless the House, Senate and the President all agree to extend them. Obama has the option of letting them expire ... and then immediately proposing his own program of tax cuts. That would force the GOP/TPers to actively vote against working and middle class tax cuts. Which would be political suicide in 2014 for them.

    Obama has the winning hand now and I hope he plays it.  He does not need to beg for their cooperation.  He can go around them if they choose to remain obstructionist.



  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    Wonderful pic Kam, tee hee hee!

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2012

    I suspect that Trump is exhibiting early signs of dementia.  I don't say that in a mean way.  My father had similar signs many years before it was apparent enough to make a diagnosis.  The behaviour and eccentric statements are very familiar.  

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited November 2012

    I also suspect that Trump may well be broke again.  Most of his 'wealth' is smoke and mirrors anyway.  He needs the publicity to stay in the media spotlight and earn some income from it IMO.  I honestly have never paid enough attention to him to know if he has always been this crazy or may indeed be having some medical/mental problems also. 

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    Pip, do you know how old Trump is? My dad started showing the signs in his late 70's and was formally dx'd at 81. 

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    No, it's just The Donald being The Donald. Little boy who never grew up - and who, as the Wabitt said, may well be broke again.

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited November 2012

    Had a bit of a fuzzy youthful memory of Nixon surrounding the White House with DC transit buses back in the day and fleeing to Camp David from we protestors.



    I'd truly love to see Capitol Hill surrounded by protestors to the extent that this do nothing bunch of leeches also felt they needed to hide behind buses from the American public fed up with the obstructionist behavior.



    Get the damn social issues off the table and start working together on solutions to our economic issues. Solve the economic challenges and the social BS will take care of itself. Or rather we each can manage our own bodies, bedrooms, and spiritual needs.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2012

    Athena, that is what we thought about my dad.  He was always a bit eccentric.  But the behaviour became more bizarre...the social filters gradually dissolved.  In hindsight, he was probably showing the signs as early as his late 60's.  By his late 70's, only those of us close enough to him could see that the problem was significant.  Those he saw socially simply said it was just Bill being Bill.  Even his doctor thought he was just being Bill. 

    It wasn't until he had 5 TIA episodes in one day that they did a CT scan.  His brain lit up like a Christmas tree. The doctors said that he had probably had been having small TIAs for 10 or more years that were undetected.  Each one impaired his thinking a bit more.  

    The Donald is in his late 60's.  And he has always been eccentric.  Reminds me so much of my Dad.  Alas, my dad never was rich. Sigh.

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