I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2012

    That would only have increased the President's margin, HL!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    HL

    we cross posted - that's a good one!!!!!!

    Speaking of Willard, wasn't it strange for him NOT to have his spouse standing near him, with all of his family?  Maybe he was trying to avoid what I still call "a Pat Nixon grimace" - gracious? cowardly?  After all her comments to You People....ah, well - isn't it FABULOUS not to have to think about or HEAR him/them again???

    whew.....

    Happy Dance...with Big Bird Wink Anyone who wants to can "cut in" on us, as long as I get to keep hugging him.Laughing

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Good morning all...just finished reading all of your wonderful posts this morning.  Haven't even caught up on our local races and initiatives.  I believe this was one of the best elections in my lifetime, that's for sure.

    HL- I thought about that Trump offer...your cartoon, well that outcome would be funny.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    WEST WAS DEFEATED....this is a smattering of sense in that district after all...if only Michelle Bachman wasn't going back...ah, well, next time ;-))))

    Who do you think will run with HRC????  We know who's gonna be the Explainer in Chief of why she should be elected the First Woman President, okay, okay, I'm getting ahead of things...but isn't this the BEST. 

    JUST. THE. BEST.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2012

    I really am surprised Trump didn't give that money to the east coast victims.  What a jerk!  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012
  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Sunflowers - great news on West.  Bill Maher has to have someone.......MB's constituents get what they deserve.

    Dow Plummeting on some European news - ugh.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    While I'm here - John Tester retained his Senate seat in Montana!  Yeah!!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Sarah Palin says she is "perplexed" by the results.

    Could this usher in a time of reflection????? (I'm not optimistic)

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited November 2012

    That's because Sarah has no other source than Faux News. What can one expect when you listen to the spin in the all spin all the time zone

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2012

    Athena, apparently lion hope springs eternal! Laughing My poor husband refrained from voting in 08, because he could not bring himself to vote for a ticket with Palin on it.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    The wor perplexed would indicate a thinking process - which would be new for Sarah Palin.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Congratulations from the world - including the conservatives Angela Merkel and David Cameron:

    Updated at 8:32 a.m. ET: LONDON -- World leaders from Mexico City to Beijing were quick to congratulate Barack Obama on his victory early Wednesday – but the re-elected president faces a slew of foreign policy challenges in his second term.

    "I would like to congratulate re-elected President Barack Obama from the bottom of my heart," German Chancellor Angela Merkel told local television. "We know each other well and I am looking forward to our cooperation ... My heartfelt congratulations on this day today."

    British Prime Minister David Cameron and Enrique Peña Nieto, president-elect of Mexico, both posted goodwill messages on Twitter.

    "It will give me great pleasure to congratulate him personally on my next visit to the United States and work together for the benefit of our countries," Pena Nieto said.

    PhotoBlog: From Obama's old school to his ancestral village - world reacts to US election

    Bars and U.S. embassies threw election-night parties to watch the returns came in. At the Redhook American-themed restaurant in London, many stayed up until 4:30 a.m. local time (11:30 p.m. ET) to watch TV networks call the result for Obama.

    "I think he's shown a sort of diplomacy and maturity that maybe under George W. Bush we didn't see," Chris Padden, a 27-year-old education worker, told NBC News. "I think we are hoping that he's going to show the same diplomacy over the next four years."

    More here:http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/07/14987105-world-leaders-welcome-obamas-2nd-term-but-many-challenges-wait-on-his-doorstep

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2012

    Sunny, HRC is going to have to knock Biden out of the way. As VP that might not be so easy. However, her popularity is sky high, and his, not so much.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited November 2012

    I find myself amused that Florida and its incompetence in running an election has made them totally irrelevant this time.  No center of attention this time folks ... the country went on without you. 

    Perhaps Trump and Palin need to be sent someplace where they can be kept safe from themselves while they ponder their total irrelevance also. 

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    Sparklemoose Palin is perplexed?  Is that the word for November 7 on her Word-of-the-Day calendar?

    Yippeeee for Jon Tester!

    DH and I were talking just a bit ago about what is next for the Republican party.  This could either be their salvation or their destruction.  Who is in line to lead them?  They need a reasonable and strong leader, but I'm not sure there are any left.  Jeb Bush is naturally positioned, but ... he is so tainted by his idiot brother's record that I don't know if he can make it.  And he has enough baggage of his own.  They were trying to set up Paul "Eddie Munster" Ryan for 2016, but he is pretty closely allied with the rapist lovers ("rape is just another form of conception"), so I don't think the Vagina Vote will go his way.  Interesting to contemplate.  Pity that Chuck Hagel has retired from public life.

    Ecstatic Libby

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited November 2012

    Linda ... I'm sure that Faux and Limbaugh and Beck, etc. are beating the 'danger, danger, danger' drums as hard as they can right now.  I do feel sorry for the people who live in fear because they fall for it.  But most of it is so downright crazy that at some point people are just going to have to get back in touch with their inner common sense and walk away from it. 

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2012

    Kam, I hear California is looking really good today.  I wish Michigan was able to move our state house and senate the way that Cali did.  Also your Federal delegation looks a lot better than ours.  We ended up with crazy reindeer guy in our 11th district.

    Sunflower, Kos respects Nate.  What he was trying to say the other day is that Nate didn't pull predictions out of the blue, he's not a magician, he's a numbers guy.  So is other analysts would look at the data in a detached manner they would predict the same.  At least that's my take on what Kos said.  The way he worded it I can see how it could be taken the wrong way, but he's just very direct which sometimes leads people to perceive more than is there.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Interesting take from Erik Erickson, the conservative blogger - I was waiting for someone on the GOP side to address the issue of PAC fundiong and whether it worked. Here is his view on townhall.com:

    The outside groups need to have a serious accounting. For months they touted their get out the vote efforts, ground game, ad operations, polling operations, voter contact, etc. and they really were full of b.s. for the most part. From national tea party groups that have mostly been infighting to some of the major 501(c)(3) and (c)(4) groups, much was donated and much was squandered with little to no oversight.

    .....

    There must be a reckoning for how the GOP does business with groups that fundraise off the names of politicians and use all the money for overhead that includes luxurious travel and hotels.

    Additionally, the Romney team objectively failed to put on a decent ground game and the supposedly supplemental ground game from outside groups was ephemeral. In 2008, one of the smartest things Barack Obama did was keep his staff in Chicago and use his team, not the Democrats’ usual hucksters.

    As long as the GOP keeps relying on the usual hucksters, charlatans, and con artists it’ll keep getting the same results.

    More here:

    http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/07/the-charlatans/

    In fact, I think "big" was the big loser in this election. But in Connecticut, Ohio and elsewhere, we saw that throwing money wasn't what spelled victory.

    A lot of Canadian sisters rightly react in horror at the money the US spends on its democracy. Ironically, though, in this Ynkee doodle Dandy land of the big and brask, EVERYONE spends money, so the net effect is neutral.

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2012

    I just realized that I should explain crazy reindeer guy so here goes.

    "I have a problem figuring out which one I really am, Santa Claus or Kerry Bentivolio," Bentivolio said in a deposition,according to the report. "All my life I have been told I'm Kerry Bentivolio, and now, I am a Santa Claus, so now I prefer to be Santa Claus."   http://www.pdamerica.org/news/item/982-congressional-candidate-kerry-bentivolio-in-old-court-records-i-am-a-santa-claus

    "Republican newcomer Kerry Bentivolio of Milford won the 11th Congressional District over Canton Democrat Dr. Syed Taj, with 100% of the precincts reporting...Bentivolio -- a former teacher, veteran, tea party member, part-time Santa Claus and reindeer rancher..."   http://www.freep.com/article/20121107/NEWS15/311070106/Bentivolio-takes-commanding-lead-in-race-for-11th-Congressional-District

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    RR - I only looked at my Congressional seat in California.  We had a chance against longtime dumb luck Wally Herger this time, but he retired.  Enter La Malfa....or something like that, I call him The Mafia. Some sort of State Senator with high name recognition and a nasty way about him (he lied about his primary opponent, but still won, ofcourse).  My county voted 60-40 Romney.  The Congressional district is just that much worse.

    I heard Rep Pete Stark lost.  He is a Democrat, but since California went to a runoff scenerio, he was running against nother Democrat.  Pete Stark was a great Congressman, but his age had gotten the better of him, so I hear.  I don't even have to look....Feinstein not even challenged.  Rumors are, Nancy Pelosi will retire at the end of the year, even though she won her seat.  Hmmm....who would be her replacement in San Francisco....??? I'd like to see Gavin Newsome.

    As far as Propositions....we kept the Death Penalty, the requirement to label GMO Foods knocked down, and I don't think they went from Brown's tax the rich, temporarily, to get us out of our hole.  Atleast last I looked.

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited November 2012

    Sarah Palin is perplexed? I think that is her natural state.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2012

    Bentivolio will be a one-term congressman, but boy: is he ever going to be an embarrassment during that one term.

    Linda

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    RR - I only looked at my Congressional seat in California.  We had a chance against longtime dumb luck Wally Herger this time, but he retired.  Enter La Malfa....or something like that, I call him The Mafia. Some sort of State Senator with high name recognition and a nasty way about him (he lied about his primary opponent, but still won, ofcourse).  My county voted 60-40 Romney.  The Congressional district is just that much worse.

    I heard Rep Pete Stark lost.  He is a Democrat, but since California went to a runoff scenerio, he was running against nother Democrat.  Pete Stark was a great Congressman, but his age had gotten the better of him, so I hear.  I don't even have to look....Feinstein not even challenged.  Rumors are, Nancy Pelosi will retire at the end of the year, even though she won her seat.  Hmmm....who would be her replacement in San Francisco....??? I'd like to see Gavin Newsome.

    As far as Propositions....we kept the Death Penalty, the requirement to label GMO Foods knocked down, and I don't think they went for Brown's tax the rich, temporarily, to get us out of our hole.  Atleast last I looked.

    Edited: Prop 30 Temporary Income Tax on Rich won 54-46

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited November 2012

    So happy today. 

    I'm still hoping that our (Washington State) next governor will (again) be Democrat, but the counting is not complete, and it's a pretty close race, so we'll see.

    which way did Florida end up when all was said and done?  I'm SO glad it wasn't dependent on them! Obama's team did GOOD!!!

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited November 2012

    Eliza Dushku (actress) tweeted:

    I remember Mitt used to talk to us like that from the podium in church. Then he'd walk off & walk right over people. We can't have that.

     I didn't realize she was raised Mormon.

     

    Obama

     

    They mad

     

    Loved Helen and Margaret re: the R's sudden call for bipartisanship. Yeah, we'll get back to you on that. Remember Dubya declaring he had a mandate from the people upon HIS re-election? They've conveniently forgotten that AND 4 years of obstructionism and stalling to the detriment of their own constituents just because they hated the black man SO much. *sigh* The President is so much more gracious than I am.
  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    BS alert

    GOP lie to watch out for: that the markets are diving today due to Obama's win. FALSE! They are falling on comments by the European Central Bank president this morning saying things looked on the dicey side for Germany. So blame the Dow's slide on Mario Draghi. He said, at a conference,

    "Germany has so far been largely insulated from some of the difficulties elsewhere in the euro area. But the latest data suggest that these developments are now starting to affect the German economy. This is also evident in the KfW-ifo-Mittelstandsbarometer."



    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mario-draghi-germany-speech-november-7-2012-11#ixzz2BYcMv7kd

    So headlines like this, at the WashPo, Markets sell off in wake of Obama win

    are bunkum!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    DC did the right thing and voted to force the resignation of any mayor or council member convicted of a felony.

    California did the right thing and kept the death penalty (I am uber conservative on two things: supporting the death penalty - though it's overused and should be reserved for mafia kingpins and serial killers - and CALLING for the death penalty for drug traffickers (not dealers) )

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited November 2012
  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2012

    Kam I hadn't seen yet what happened with Prop 37, too bad it didn't pass.  I really don't know why we shouldn't know if our food is GMO or not.  I was glad to hear that 30 passed (tax the rich) California desperately needed that.

    Lewing, I sure hope he's a one-termer but danged it's going to be like having out own Michele Bachmann.

    I also just ran into a link for Occupy Sandy NJ on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/registry/wedding/2FDVT8QGKJFYR

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