I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

cp418...big thanks for that.  I felt pretty certain what I heard this afternoon was "different" from the tweet.  If I were a bit more computer literate I could have looked it up before I jumped on here, but it just made me angry. 

Like Kam says -- he was not officially endorsing Pres. Obama with his remarks but making statements germane to the situation that was at hand.  Obviously, since there are a huge pile of miss-steps, lies, exaggerations, withheld information and other problems associated with a candidate that 'came with maybe just a bit too much baggage' right from the start perhaps the perception was bad, but you are right Kam.....when Romney loses, the mildest innuendo is going to take on gigantic proportions.  I as well add my second to your questions.  Mitt the Magician, how did you do it???

Jackie

Joe Biden is on Hardball now -- very interesting. Joe is always interesting, anyway!



And Nate Silver's 538 was even better today. The wrench in the works, of course, may be voter suppression. Upwards of 6 hours people stood in line to vote in Florida today ... Ohio lines are long and the criminal Secretary of State Husted is doing his level best to disenfranchise minorities and rig the voting machines. I can only hope the FBI is closing in on him soon. He needs to spend a long time in a small cell with a big bad roommate with lots of time on his hands.



L

Hahahaha!

Nate is a good weatherwane.  I'm cooling the grape juice for the celebration.

I've never seen so much consternation over Nate.  Been following him since 2004, too.

They say the first sign of a defeated campaign is to complain about the polls.  I guess if you are science-deficient, that becomes even easier to do.

Well, Mary, at least you'll have some entertaining t.v. going on to keep you preoccupied!

A twofer Mary, (if Romney gets elected).  Wait, if we get rid of Romney election nite, maybe that's the real twofer.

This is a disturbing headline at Huffingtonpost.com

Voters Stuck In Line For Hours... Record Wait Times... 'Let Us Vote! Let Us Vote!'... Rick Scott Refuses To Budge... Crist: 'Indefensible'...Two-Hour Waits In Ohio... Not An Accident... 

If it appears that Romney is winning, I may not have to take the prep medications. 

Why is it, when you can't have something, it's what you want the most? I want popcorn! Big no-no for the next few days.

Mary

How wonderful...in a land like we have you steal from everyone.

Jackie

Mary, vodka and gin are clear liquids. I'm just saying!

Mary, It goes fast.  The prep time that is.  And what a relief to get through.

Hi, ladies . . . just catching up.  It's been a crazy weekend, trying to do hurricane relief work as well as campaign volunteering.  (Hello, Virginia?  Anyone home?  Yes, I know you're sick of getting these phone calls, but the end is in sight!)  Wasn't able to do any hands-on relief work, but for a good reason: when we got to the church that's serving as a hub for donations and volunteers, there was a line of people around the block waiting to get in and get their volunteer assignments.  A lot of them were runners who'd been in town for the NYC marathon.  Really, really glad they canceled the race (the church in question is right on the course, and would have been cut off for most of Sunday morning if they'd run the damn thing) and that most of the runners who'd traveled long distances to be here were very gracious about the cancellation.

So, anyhow, we just dropped off a bunch of heavy-duty work gloves and will go back to volunteer during the week.  (We'd heard from someone who'd been out in the Rockaways that people are stymied in cleaning up their own streets because they don't have basic equipment, like gloves and brooms . . . everything was destroyed in the flooding.)

The other really inspiring thing, besides the way runners self-organized to help, is the work of the Occupy Wall Street folks.  Here's a great article on the situation in Red Hook (one of the hard-hit neighborhoods): http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/occupy-leads-relief-in-powerless-red-hook.html

The situation for people in the high-rise housing complexes is just awful.  (I keep thinking, upwards of 5,000 people live in the Red Hook houses, you know at least some are women going through breast cancer treatment.  Can you imagine being stuck on the tenth floor, in the dark, no elevator, no water, no heat, no phone??)

Linda

(edited to fix a typo.)

HL...I also very much enjoyed your link and felt it an un-biased description.  It is something that every reader could find things to be in agreement with for the most part.  I think one of the major issues in the "elections" and very much in this one....is the amt. of time that had to be spent defending against the lies.  Mindful here that third parties had to step in because the people who worked for their companies were fearful for their jobs.  This just should never be what-so-ever.  If you must resort to behaviors like that, perhaps you should not be a candidate.  Both sides have some of these issues, but at this point and so late....making people think they were"losing" their livelihood was a dire mistake.

Linda, it is sad what this storm wrought and I am so hoping that the coming 'storm' does not do more than be a terrible in-convenience and certainly that it does not manage to slow down efforts at getting help and care and the restoration of power and services for those in need. 

Jackie

Another very good piece from the Atlantic about the disgraceful voter suppression tactics by Republican elected officials in Ohio and Florida, including the appalling spectacle of voters in Florida forced to wait in lines for as long as 8 hours to cast their ballots.



http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/no-one-in-america-should-have-to-wait-7-hours-to-vote/264506/



You cannot explain this away as anything OTHER than voter suppression and racism. NO-ONE can justify forcing citizens to wait in line for 8 hours to vote.



Pull quote: "In America in 2012, poor people and elderly people and students should not have to wait seven hours to vote. They should not be restricted in this fashion by elected officials who justify the hardships they impart upon black voters by calling those voters "lazy." By allowing this ugliness to endure, year after year, election after election, we don't just subvert our own democracy. We preclude ourselves from turning to the world and proclaiming that we respect the value of a single vote and the dignity of a single voter. We don't practice what we preach."



L

Linda (lewing) - I read in the NYT about the awful situation in the public housing tenaments. Everyone is so scared to be without water and electricity in high crime areas. But there are also stories of heroism and sacrifice, as the strong help the weak. Public housing was my biggest fear - it's also the place where disease due to disrupted sanitation is greatest.

HL - I think the conservative conventional wisdom that you can win by suppressing the vote and lying about your opponent has finally reached its natural death. You could do that for a round or two, but not forever, and it's Mitt's turn to pay the price that Bush-Rove should have paid in 2000. The wheels of poetic justice grind slowly but they grind hard.