I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    Some numbers to share:

    Colorado: 65.7% Chance of an Obama win  (Up from 62.6%)

    Florida: 55.9% Romney  (Down from 58.8%) If this crosses over to even a slim Obama lead by election day, Mitt better hope the GOP puts their electron fraud into high gear.

    Iowa: 79.6% Obama  (Up from 78.4%)

    Nevada: 87.2% Obama (Up from 85.2%)

    New Hampshire: 78.7% Obama (Up from 75.2%)

    North Carolina: 81.1% Romney (Up from 80.8%) Look! Good news for Romney! 

    Ohio: 80.7% Obama (Up from 79.9%) Look! Bad news for Romney!

    Virginia: 64.8% Obama (Significantly up from 61.3%) Virginia going to Obama is game over. Romney is going to have to rely on a lot of “irregularities” to carry the election.

    Wisconsin: 93.0% Obama (Down from 88.0%) I think Wisconsin just went from “swing state” to “Obama win.”

    Yea Team

    Jackie

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Huge sigh of relief, E!! I swear you have ninja cancer. :)

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Mitt saying he is for "real change."

    Desperate times call for desperate measures.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    E - that sounds like good news, but I don't have a clear picture of your history.  You like to change your moniker!!

    I suppose this question belongs in one of those SE threads, but I thought I might endulge myself here.  I've been on these darn hormone blockers for 2.5 months.  Last night I thought I had the flu.  First I wake up because I am both hot and cold, my left hand is asleep and oh the aches and pains (and insomnia).  Normally I avoid sugar, but had more than planned yesterday....can and does this exacerbate the hormonals?  I find 50% of the time (or maybe more), I feel just yucky due to these pills.  Is this how it is, or is there a transition period?  Doesn't help that I'm also dealing with neuropathy in my feet, which makes walking hard and they burn, quite a bit.  All of this for a stage I cancer? Is this the norm?

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited November 2012

    I DO have ninja cancer! It's invisible to mammogram, ultrasound, and now PET/CTs. It gives up on lymph nodes and establishes its own country. In my NECK. And now it might be her2+. WTF.



    Sandy, I haven't consulted with the radiation onc yet but I need at least two more weeks to heal from surgery.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    kam, what anti-hormonal are you on? Also, did you do chemo?

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Athena - I'm taking Exemestane (generic Aromasin).  I'll leave my med history in below....I did the "normal" heavy duty chemo ACT....plus an added dose of Carboplatin (5 of 6 weeks...the easiest of them all), as it works especially well on brca cancers....5 months of chemo ending 8/1.  Never had hot flashes during chemo.

    E- how did you find that tumor?  Could you just feel it?

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Athena - I'm taking Exemestane (generic Aromasin).  I'll leave my med history in below....I did the "normal" heavy duty chemo ACT....plus an added dose of Carboplatin (5 of 6 weeks...the easiest of them all), as it works especially well on brca cancers....5 months of chemo ending 8/1.  Never had hot flashes during chemo.

    E- how did you find that tumor?  Could you just feel it?

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Neuropathy is a common SE of some chemos and AIs can cause the feeling that your body's temperature isn't well regulated. They may also cause aches. 

    Ninja E - Yah (sword swish)!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    My neuropathy, for the very first time since ending chemo, took a healthful move today!  I think it was from all of the suffering I did with the Exemestane last night...seriously, I traded in one crap ball for another yesterday.  I'm so stiff now!! I feel ancient.  At this moment, though, I feel pretty good. I can't get the rhyme or reason of it, but wondered if it was just a stage I had to progress through or this was how it was going to be for 5 years.

    My cousin has brca cancer too...er+  She skipped the hormonals, went for QOL and takes bioidenticals.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited November 2012

    Kam -



    I felt the lump and my GP sent me for a PET. It didn't show anything but I asked for a biopsy.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    I wonder if that is the nature of a PET - better at organ detection?  Were they just going to ignore it if you didn't ask for the biopsy? Frown

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited November 2012

    E - I have the same "ninja" cancer - mine didn't show up this last time on either mamo or U/S - having a CT scan next week to see if anything shows up anywhere else - what a sneaky rotten disease this is...

    Kam - there are numerous threads about AIs and their se's and some of the information is quite enlightening and no you're not imagining things but there are lots of oncs out there who will act very surprised that there are se's and try to tell you, "you're getting older", "it's just arthritis", "it's from your chemo", "it's all in your mind" - whatever - there are se's and for some of us they are severe.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited November 2012

    Kam,



    My onc suggested waiting for six weeks and reevaluating. When I started shaking my head, he added "...or we can do a biopsy now." The lump was obviously larger so it was justified.



    Sandy - We just have to be different, don't we? Many hugs and boring wishes for next week!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Sandy - E- you two ninjas have to show us your swordmanship and fight. We can learn much from you.

    E - it took immense courage for you to insist on a biopsy. I bow before you. I would have chosen denial (and fared badly as a result). You deserve the ninja title.

    Sandy - do you have a game plan for treatment - or does that come next week?

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    E - you made me laugh.

    Sandy - yes, I find my MO so laissez faire about it all.  I learn more here than at her office.  I haven't even bothered to call her since I started developing these symptoms...I'll be in her office November 15, but I'm already aware there really isn't an alternative.  Then again, I'm weakly er+ and some er+ luminal B's get no benefits from hormonals, though they don't know why.  Then there is the brca thing, where excess estrogen seems to protect us from BC before menopause, but not after menopause (i.e. if you have extra body fat), but "it's too complicated to explain to me".....the best I can tell it is the difference between ovary estrogen and adrenal estrogen (the latter which gets concentrated in the breast tissue).  I just don't know if I can live this way...what's the point?

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited November 2012

    Athena -



    I gird my loins for battle by hiding under my bed and producing dust bunny puppet shows. I am wise in the ways of the farce.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited November 2012

    Kam-



    There are pain pills! I wouldn't have made it on arimidex without them.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    I've thought about pain pills, but (laughing) I'm deathly afraid of medication!!  Yes, believe it or not.  Especially anything psychotropic.  What kind of pain pills did you take?

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    E - I am selling tickets for your show already. I've got promo guys going about town screaming about the wonders of the ninja cancer goddess. I know you will not disappoint. :-)

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited November 2012

    Kam - Vicodin, like Dr. House but I don't take a handful at a time!



    Athena - I can't fit a large audience under my bed so don't sell too many tickets!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Steady stream of people leaving Romney rally in the middle of his speech. Maybe it's the cold, but energy level low in Ohio. #2012

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited November 2012

    Kam, I've taken Tramadol for the achy joints of Aromasin, before I was switched to Arimidex. I liked it because it didn't make me either sleepy or high, but worked much better than Motrin or Aleve. It might be worth asking your doc for a script and try it. It's pretty cheap as a generic.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    I've thought about pain pills...I just have to get over my prejudices against Better Living through Drugs. I've never heard of Tramadol.  I'll look it up. Thank you.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    E- you can always film the dust bunny shows.  Yeah for clear margins. 

    Kam - I've never liked pain pills either, but I've given my father with Alzheimer's TRamadol for back pain.  It seems to help somewhat.

    Oh the joy of watching Rachel and Lawrence. 

    Really really sad to see pictures of what's happened in the rest of the state and in New York, esp. Staten Island.  I've just been listening on the radio - doesn't compare to the visuals.  Meanwhile, impressive gas lines around here. Bringing back my youth.

  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited November 2012

    Scoot - so happy for clear margins!! You are one tough cookie!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    Yes, the great joy of watching Rachel and Lawrence..... so I went in the other room and watched it for a second time, and there are a couple of others I don't mind.  Sure seems like the Repugs loser's corner is trying to fill up.  Of course, there will be a hue and cry, and fraud, and all sorts of chicanery ----  it is easy to dish out but hard to take it on the chin.  If you keep doing what you have always done, you will keep getting what you've always got.  The Regressive Repugs just don't learn very well.  They tend to pick losers and wonder why no one could see how wonderful they were. 

    Jackie,

    not so articulate but happy with the latest GOOD news.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited November 2012

    E - great news on the margins - fingers crossed for good path results.

    Hair done - bloody expensive. Met a gorgeous wee bubby there called Charlie (6mths) - he liked me. All stocked up on Lean Cuisines for the next 2 night's dinners.

    Markets in the morning - I wrote my self a note so I won't forget - still kicking myself over the hair appt.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2012

    Suzie, I hear you. My husband is a life-long Republican and he is referring to this year's candidates as Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Even Jon Stewart quipped that we seem to have only one model of president this year (after Romney agreed with Obama on virtually everything in the last debate), but at least we get a choice of color, sort of like an iPhone.

    Chris Christie is a straight talker. I don't know that much about him, but he has made a few moves here and there that I can only applaud. He seems to have a brain at least, underneath the rolls of fat. Romney just seems so stooooooopid. Logically he can't be completely brain-dead, but he got bitch-slapped by Cameron! If that doesn't make you a weenie, I don't know what does.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    I don't like what Christie has done to the teachers and other public employees in this state.  I also don't like that he refused to sign a tax on millionaires that would have helped senior citizens.  I do think he is performing well in this crisis and that he does say what he thinks.  It is a refreshing change for a Republican.

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