Starting Chemo July 2012

Options
1404143454662

Comments

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2012

    Ann, just wait a few more round of taxol and you WILL see your hair grow, promise.

    If you are going to add the L glutamine, it is recommended to use 10g X3 per day for the day before infusion, the day of, and the day after.

    I really hope it works for you! Smile

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited October 2012

    Whaevah--when did you start to have "real" hair growth? I have finished Taxol/Herceptin #5. Have prickles that just hurt on the top of my head. Have actually broken down and shaved some of them since the BIG shave. Have no growth on the sides of my head. Eyebrows and lashes are very very sparse. I go for my 3rd MRI this week--and know hair should not be on the forefront--but---

  • roadwarrior28
    roadwarrior28 Member Posts: 301
    edited October 2012

    SusanHG123 - I did the bi-weekly Taxol, 4 sessions. My hair started serioiusly growing back before the 4th one.

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2012

    SusanHG123- The 'real' hair growth came around Taxol 4/12. I never lost all my hair but it was really really sparse, just not totally bald. I did shave down to #2 brushcut. The sides are still thin as is the crown but the top and the back are shooting up, I am seeing a few black in between the white.  Hair appeared everywhere.

    My RMT suggested that I apply Cold Pressed Castor Oil to my head , breasts, brows and lashes since treatment began. I never had the gooey, weepy or crusty eyes from Taxol .There are suggestions that it helps with hair growth ( google castor oil hair regrowth) but I used it, like my mother and grandmother to reduce scaring.  It does not stain my hats or clothes. Livestrong has an article on this as well.

    I have no idea if using castor oil has made any difference in my hair growth, I do know it hasn't hurt and it is inexpensive. Just a moisturizer for me.

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2012

    SusanHG123- The 'real' hair growth came around Taxol 4/12. I never lost all my hair but it was really really sparse, just not totally bald. I did shave down to #2 brushcut. The sides are still thin as is the crown but the top and the back are shooting up, I am seeing a few black in between the white.  Hair appeared everywhere.

    My RMT suggested that I apply Cold Pressed Castor Oil to my head , breasts, brows and lashes since treatment began. I never had the gooey, weepy or crusty eyes from Taxol .There are suggestions that it helps with hair growth ( google castor oil hair regrowth) but I used it, like my mother and grandmother to reduce scaring.  It does not stain my hats or clothes. Livestrong has an article on this as well.

    I have no idea if using castor oil has made any difference in my hair growth, I do know it hasn't hurt and it is inexpensive. Just a moisturizer for me.

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2012

    TeeBallMom and Whaevah...are you guys still on track for Taxol #9 tomorrow?  My onc office was closed Mon/Tues due to hurricance "Sandy."  I live in Virginia but I'm from New York--we were very lucky not to lose power!  I'm going in early to do blood work and then transfusion.

     I met with my radiation onc and he said I would need 28 days.  He recommended Miaderm lotion.  I have my mapping appt on Nov. 26th.  I hope to start rads on Dec 3.  I finish my last chemo Tues 11/20, have port removed on Wed Nov. 21.  Can you tell how anxious I am to have this over with?  

    In the meantime, hair growth continues, I'm waiting for a more thicker, all over kinda of hair...but I'll take anything.  Eyelashes/eyebrows are very very sparse.  SEs are minimal.  More fatigue.

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited October 2012

    I had such a talk with my eyelashes today. I had just applied mascara and where I have lashes in a little strip, then blank space, then 2 lashes, another space, 2 more lashes. . .  the pairs of lashes wanted to stick to each other, making them only 2 lashes instead of 4. I expalined to them that this was unaccaptable as I worked with my little comb to get them to show themselves. . . .

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2012

    Virginiab - I had that same conversation with mine the other night. And don't get me started on my eyebrows. None of them are listening...

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited October 2012

    whaeveh & Life, thanks for the advice on L-glutamine.  Picked up a bucket of the stuff tonight, it was reallly pricey!  Doesn't taste too bad though.   I asked the nurse what they did about neuropathy and she told me they only delay treatment if it gets so bad that it's constant and also interfering with life (like unable to do buttons).  Yikes!  That's way too severe to be acceptable.  Hoping mine doesn't worsen.  Fingertips finally back to almost normal for me.  The numb feeling persisted over a day and that scared me.

    Worried about the east coast sisters without power and hoping for safety and quick recovery for all.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2012

    Ann - my neuropathy luckily is in my feet, mostly in my toes and the balls of my feet. It comes and goes. Sometimes it's weirdly uncomfortable, not painful, but almost achy. But if that's as bad as it gets, I won't complain! Mix the glutamine with juice or something and it's tolerable.

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited October 2012

    Thanks Life, I tried mixing it with gatorade and just chugged it down.  I think next time I'll do 2 cups with 5g instead of one cup with 10g.  I have had weird aches, tingles, itches, and intemittent numbness.  Barely anything in my feet so far, mostly in my palms and fingertips.  I hope it doesn't get any worse.  I had enough trouble in my hands before chemo-- old injuries from a lifetime of computer use, and hobbies like knitting and playing stringed instruments.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2012

    I am so use to seeing my bald self in the mirror now that I find it odd when I see pictures of myself with hair.  It's been 8 weeks since the last chemo and my hair is returning slowly but surely.  The top of my head seems a bit slower than the rest of the head but it sure is nice to rub my hand over my head and be able to feel something there!

    My eyebrows and eyelashes have thinned quite considerably, but there are enough left so my eyes aren't bald and I can already see eyebrows growing in where they had been waxed off.

    The neuropathy does fade in time.  My feet are back to normal and I am able to cross-stitch without any trouble with my hands. The ridges and lines on my fingernails are growing out and just this past weekend when I trimmed them, I saw the 1st chemo speed bump is being trimmed off already. Even chemo brain is fading into the distance (Don't tell anyone else that tho, I still blame my forgetfulness on it!!)

    I hope Sandy hasn't thrown a monkey wrench into anyone's treatments and you'll all be able to finish on time and put chemo in the rear view mirror.  

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2012

    virginiab- Lol on the talk Laughing

    PAeaglesfan- that is hopeful, losing chemobrain...it really messes with me and my work :(

    Ann- hoping it works for you, I have read so many that had good results

    Madelyn- Taxol #9 done, so far so good, hope you stay on schedule! My next MO visit will set up my 2nd rads appt where I will get my schedule and tats

    I get 3 weeks off between chemo and rads, they were firm about that. I haven't asked about my port but will discuss that then. It was a 3hr insertion, terrible experience and I have requested that it be removed by a different surgeon, while the RO who put it in was gorgeous, he may not stay that way if  I have to face him again LOL

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    Hi Ladies - I have been away on holiday celebrating my last taxotere treatment, so am catching up on all your news. It was lovely and a super break but had to pace myself a lot. For those of you finishing and planning a party may I suggest you plan it 3 weeks after your last chemo so you can enjoy it to the full. Thrilled to hear so many of you are close to the end.

    I had my first Herceptin on it's own on Tuesday. I was not expecting any SE's but found I could not keep my eyes open when I got home. My arms and legs were so tired I could hardly pick them up the whole day. Has anyone else experienced this? It could be our long plane journey kicking in, but it suddenly occurred to me that the reason I experienced the exhaustion this treatment is that I am no longer on steroids? 

    PA eagles - I am sorry you are finding the radiation treatment exhausting. It must be really tiring driving there everyday.

    Whaever- a 3 hour insertion - that's awful - sheer incompetence!!! I would also rearrange his gorgeous face. Removing it will be a lot easier.

    I had to laugh about your conversations with the eyebrows and eyelashes. I have been doing the same thing. I had my last taxotere treatment 3 weeks ago. I can't notice any hair growth yet, but please tell me the eyebrows and eyelashes will not continue to fall out! I seem to remember I read somewhere, one BC patient's hair started growing back but then all her eyebrows and eyelashes fell out. That seems really cruel!

    Virginia- was it you who was planning on booking a nice cruise? Hope you managed to find one you were happy with.

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited November 2012

    Unfortunately, Hurricane Sandy delayed my last Taxol treatment for a few days. Instead of having it Monday, I had it yesterday.  The treatment center was packed as they were trying to get all of the cancellations from Monday and Tuesday accomodated in one day. Many people were unable to get in, including their nurses.  The building was running on generators and had limited electricity but the nurses were calm the entire time and everyone was extra nice to one another. Since I rec'd Herceptin yesterday after the Taxol, my Herceptin schedule has changed a bit and instead of being a "Monday patient" I have been switched to Wednesdays. After next week's Herceptin I will not go back until after Thanksgiving. I expected the last round to bring lots of excitement and positive feelings but with everything that is happening here on Long Island I was like "ok, it's over." I hope to have more of a celebration after things settle down around here.

    I have the follow-up appt with the radiation onc tomorrow to ask a few more questions before making my decision.  Last week I went for 2nd and 3rd opinions outside of the hospital network I am in and both doctors said that if I were their patient they would not be treating me with radiation because the cells in the sentinel node were microscopic and they were more concerned that the long term effects of rads might outweigh the treatment.  As I said, I am bringing these concerns, more questions, and more to the doctor tomorrow.

    Our house has been without power since 3 pm on Monday. Fortunately, husband's best friend never lost his power (by some miracle) and he was more than happy to take us in. So I plan to rest on his couch, instead of my own, while I recuperate from this last round of Taxol.

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    emilybrooke - I am so sorry to hear the storm affected your final treatment. Good luck with your decision. Thinking of you.

    whaever- I didn't know Castor Oil was also for scarring. I will try it. I am using Bio Oil at the moment which is supposed to be excellent for scarring.

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    roadwarrior - congrats on finishing your treatment. Thrilled for you!!! I hope all goes well and you don't have to have radiation

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2012

    Emilybrooke, well it's good the hospital had a back-up plan and managed to get you in only a couple days late.  I'd be confused about radiation too in your case.  It has not been presented as a 'maybe' to me but if I end up with complete response to chemo I will be asking a lot of questions.  By the way do you know the grade of your tumor?  I wonder if that plays into the recommendation.

    Whaevah, yikes, I'd be upset after any 3 hour procedure.  Were you awake that whole time?

    Maddie57, congratulations on finishing chemo and I hope Herceptin gets easier for you.

    PAEaglesFan, thanks for the post-chemo report, particularly about fading neuropathy.  I'll be hoping any I'm left with will fade eventually.  

    Well no storms here so I'm off for Taxol #5 today.  I still have a big bruise from my last blood draw (from letting a student try his luck) and a big hard knot at the last infusion site.  Should be an adventure.

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited November 2012

    Ann- let the students practice on someone else, we give blood too  regularly and there are many others who can afford a rough poke, not us

    roadwarrier and Maddie....yay!!! chemo finished, can't wait to join you!

    Yes, I was awake the whole time. It was unusual, as my report showed. Two Power Bards were tried, my veins run circuitous and the gorgeous imbecile said; "In the thousands of port procedures I have done I have never seen this before"...his words to my ears during the procedure. Different anatomy but not unique. I showed the photos on my iphone to the chemo nurses last infusion, they were horrified. It was a tough experience, sort of goes with the package.

    I kept the photo as I am thinking of having a Christmas card designed for him. The photo on the cover, the red is quite festive, the sport bra white for the snow and the black and blue...just for effect.Kiss

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2012

    I got the same student today and after showing him the big bruise from last time, he volunteered to go find someone else :-)  If he hadn't I would have asked.

    Whaevah, that port procedure sounds horrid and rather insensitive of the doc to blame your vein structure.

    Well I had a cute experience at the blood draw.  There was a dog that looked like a service animal, but when it turned around I could see it was labeled "Therapy Dog" and was wearing a stethoscope and had a surgical mask around its neck.  It's handler was making babies giggle with the dog and having it greet people and do tricks.  Gave me a smile.  I'd never seen that before.  I didn't pet it because, well, dog germs and chemo are probably not a good combination.

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited November 2012

    Maddie--

    How nice that you got away for a while after finishing chemo! I did get my cruise scheduled. I'll be going in early January. It gives me another set of days to count down, as I count off the radiation treatments.

    Welcome back!

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2012

    Yay Taxol #9 is done. Can't wait until it is just Herceptin.



    Hoping everyone is doing great.



    Take care!

  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited November 2012

    Lifeonitside - please keep us posted on both you and your sister. Sisters are so special...they share memories of childhood and growing up together that no one else does.  Mine is very busy, but sends me the sweetest cards timed to get to me on the day of my chemo.

  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited November 2012

    Emilybrook = what a time you all have been through!  Do I remember right (chemo brain) that you've been concerned about you students...class advisor and all. How did the high school fare in the storm?

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited November 2012

    natL12 - My sister called me yesterday. She overreacted to the doctor's news and misunderstood what she was told on the phone. Her earlier tests a few months ago showed "low abnormal cells" and a current test showed "high abnormal cells". They are considered pre-cancerous and not even gradeable at this point. But as a precaution, they are recommending a hysterectomy, which she is going to do because the cells are obviously growing. She is relieved and planning the surgery for February so she can clear her work schedule and get through the holidays, which her doctor said was fine. So she won't have to go through any other treatment other than the surgery, which we're both grateful for.



    As for me, today is my last day for chemo. Went yesterday for my infusion and today is hydration and stuff like that. But I am done! So grateful for all the incredible support I've had along the way. Have about a month off then rads. Waiting to hear from a radiation oncologist closer to me to set up the consult and get everything going so not exactly sure when it'll all happen. But so glad to be through this step. Sending love to everyone who's finishing!

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited November 2012

    Hi Life - Congratulations!!!! So thrilled your chemo is finished. What great news about your sister. I love my sister dearly - she has been such a great support for me during chemo. She sat with me for the 6 hours of chemo every infusion, and it was such a close time. I will miss that part of it! Good luck with your radiation treatment.

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2012

    Congratulations, Life!

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2012

    Congratulations Life!!! 

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited November 2012

    Boy I'm getting the hang of this L Glutamine.  I mix the whole 10g into a half cup of liquid, chug it, then quickly chase it with another half cup of straight liquid.  24 hours since last infusion and no tinglies or numbness yet.  I hope I'm saying the same thing in a couple days.

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2012

    Ann: I use L-glutamine too and I have to say I haven't had any neuropathy either. Love how you drink yours. It's the only way I can get it down most of the time.

Categories