I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Sandy- my parents were Canadian. My father BC, my mother part of the German from Muldavian resettlement in Alberta. My father's paternal side, and the "Mc" part of me came via Montreal. His maternal side some of the original settlers of Vancouver- and Pavillion Mt ranch in BC- oh to own the land they once did!



    I heard Romney finally realeased a statement "he supports FEMA. Sshh!". Only took him 48 hours. Hope he'd act faster in a crisis.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012
  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    The dissonance is deafening, isn't it? So Robme issues a statement that he supports FEMA and would fund it (er, well, except the states should be responsible for their own disaster relief efforts), so that someone who said, "Oh, Romney won't fund FEMA so I won't vote for him" will now say, "Oh, well, that's all right then -- he said he will fund FEMA so I can vote for him now." REALLY?? smh


    ETA: WR, that meme is spot-on ... And the photo was taken in DAYTON, OHIO, which had a Delphi plant before Robme's Bain Capital bought it, closed it and stole the retirees' pensions and bought companies in China to manufacture what was previously manufactured by Delphi. Unbelievable that anyone there supports him. In the old days, he would have been run out of town on a rail!




    L

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited October 2012

    Great photos Pip - looks like such a happy wedding!

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012

    Libby ... don't know where in the world I found that picture Innocent.  Didn't know the Delphi backstory ... not surprised.  That's probably why they are so cocky about saying Jeep must be moving to China ... that is what they would do without a second thought afterall.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    HL, it's hilarious that Robme really believes voters think that way! I would have had some respect for him if he had offered up a reasoned argument about why FEMA should be privitized, in line with his PREVIOUS, loudly proclaimed, position. Still wouldn't have voted for him, but he would not appear as despicable as he currently does to me.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012
  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Linda, too funny. I drove by a house the other day that had both a Romney/Ryan and an Obama/Biden sign. I was telling my sister that their house must be very interesting right now.

    Pip, great pics - love the kilts and you were rockin' that dress!

    Ducky, I hope that your beach house is ok, but I'm really glad that you are.

    I'm glad to hear from the Eastern gals that have checked in.

    I've also been enjoying the links here but working on a project promoting down-ticket races so haven't had time to respond much. - Back to work!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Linda

    Omg...too funny!

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    Linda, that is so funny!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Romney is counting on the fact that the undecideds don't pay attention to/don't understand the country they live in until the very end of the election. His strategists have probably told him that what he says in the last two weeks is all that matters.

    To the extent that Romney's advisors would be correct in assessing that a wager is to be made (even if they lose) undecideds should be ashamed of themselves. You shouldn't get brownie points for stupidity. They don't understand that it isn't just about the man, it's also about the party that backs him, the things his ideological friends have done. They don't GET the subtleties, the history or the context. They are probably very ignorant people who don't know the complexity with which policy is made.

    Really, at this point I don't know who I hold in more contempt: Romney/Ryan or the people who say they are undecided.

    Duh....do I vote against the 47 percent or for it....dunno!

    I say undecideds don't have the intellectual ability to discern truth from fiction.

    It's about time we started making the VOTER accountable and not just the CANDIDATE. Shame on you if you are considering going to the voting booth and still don't know enough about your country to have made up your mind at this juncture. You are probably the type who would go in for an arranged marriage.

    I thank my esteemed sisters/pridemates for listening to my rant!

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited October 2012

    We've been having a bit of a challenge in our home. My son may be disabled in various ways but we have always voted and discussed the issues and candidates. So when he reached 18 he wanted to vote and registered. He struggles at the polls because of his dyslexia and I can't help him. So he votes the major offices but passes on bond issues and judges of obscure courts. Heck I don't know who half of those folks are.



    So this year he has decided based on the nastier ads that all politicians are liars and cheaters and insisting he won't vote for anyone.



    Still trying to craft my argument that he should at least consider what the two parties stand for and how they would represent him, a permanently disabled member of the 47%. Haven't made a dent quite yet. Actually I'm not sure that he wasn't embarrassed last time trying to use the new machine and he may be creating an issue to avoid the stress.



    Maybe some would say he shouldn't be allowed to vote, but I feel he has an opinion and with our help he should be able to at least vote for major offices.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Chickadee, unfortunately I don't think Romney and his strategists have in mind you son, who has a disability. Your son may just be unenthusiastic about voting, period, in which case he isn't undecided - he just won't vote.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    WR mucho correct cartoon.  I really about lost it when I heard about the non-campaign, campaign, but then to find " donations " purchased from a nearby Wal-Mart --- so many sort of adjectives come to mind....wheeler-dealer, sleaze-bag, flim-flammer, and last but not least --- total con artist.  Hard to believe the Regressives can even tolerate such, since I consider they are just as dis-respectful to the storm victims when they let this 'up-standing' or maybe I should just say standing up candidate get by with such shameful, shameful maneuvers.  What a disgrace to people everywhere.  He has gone beyond disgraceful, disrespectful, and despicable.  He has no morals other than those he would present to you for personal gain.  

    I think he has done more in these last few "storm" days to wilt his chances than his whole ugly, lie mongering campaign.   There is something not quite human in this person and it is an ugly, ugly thing.

    So heartened by the briefing Pres. gave with Gov. Christie this afternoon.  Brings joy to my heart and soul.  This is a President who really knows how to be one. 

    Jackie

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Chickadee, could your son vote absentee? That way he could take his time with the ballot.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Hope this comes out ok:

    Pile On

    Oct 31, 2012 | By ThinkProgress War Room

    Romney’s Post-Truth Campaign: Auto Rescue Edition

    Last week, Mitt Romney made now infamous comments in Defiance, Ohio claiming that Jeep was going to “move all production” to China. The comments were immediately exposed as completely false. This, however, did not stop the Romney campaign from doubling down on the comments and making several other misleading claims in a TV spot. And when that ad came in for heavy criticism, they again doubled down by putting out an even more egregiously misleading radio ad about the auto bailout.

    Well, the reviews of Romney’s desperate Ohio Hail Mary are in — and they’re not pretty.

    Fact Checkers: “Pants on Fire,” “4 Pinocchios”

    Politifact gave Romney’s statements a “pants on fire,” the nineteenth such rating he has received.

    Glenn Kessler, the Washington Post’s fact checker, awarded Romney four Pinocchios — his strongest possible dishonesty rating, concluding:

    “This ad shows that we have entered the final, desperate week of the campaign.”

     

    It was a bit long so I didn't not copy it all here.

    Jackie

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited October 2012

    Might have to look into that next time. For now it's hard to refute his disgust with pols. Heck we all feel that way.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Some people are discontented with the whole system - Chickadee, I think your son may be in that category. He is not an undecided voter. For his sake, and for that of many people, I wish the United States would introduce something other countries use  - the blank vote. It enables the person to go to the polls and express himself, while telling politicians they don't suffice. I wish the blank vote had been around in '92 and '96.

    But undecided as in "dunno, I can't tell the difference between Romney and Obama but I want one of them" - clueless.

    I do think that, as much as we have a right to expect a lot from our candidates, we should be good citizens. Voters who can't seem to tell daylight between Romney and Obama  but plan to choose one of them should be ashamed of themselves.  

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Chickadee - just read your response and I agree. While I can't understand how someone can waver between Romney and Obama, I can understand someone who is dissatisfied with our system. This country has a very narrow ideological bandwidth and a stagnant political process.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2012

    Voting is compulsory here and some people cast what they call an "ïnformal vote". In other words they fill the ballot paper out incorrectly on purpose.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    It is compulsory in several countries.

    I wonder what the GOP would do if that were the case here. Probably cry foul saying it impinges on liberty!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited October 2012

    Ok officially tired of this. Sitting in dark alone no phone but cell amd may have had allergy to the crap im supposed to drnk for tmorrow. Took benedrul but this is not fun. DH should be here soon. Hate the alone in the dark. May have been a mistake to go ahead with colonoscopy

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Alexandria - you can always cancel - is there any reason to have it done now? Has your doctor raised any concerns?

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Oh, Alexandria, I hope your DH has arrived and you feel better. Colonoscopy prep is horrible under the best of circumstances, but under these circumstances it is dreadful. I hope you can go out and at least find something to do to distract from the misery.



    One of my favorite dyspeptic writers, Charles P. Pierce, has written his endorsement of the President, for whom he is voting. Like some progressives, he is disappointed with what the President has (and hasn't done), and he wishes he had a viable alternative. But his reasons for not voting for Nit are overwhelming:



    "On the other hand, Willard Romney owes even more to the Wall Street crowd, and he owes even more to the military, but he also owes everything he is politically to the snake-handlers and the Bible-bangers, to the Creationist morons and to the people who stalk doctors and glue their heads to the clinic doors, to the reckless plutocrats and to the vote-suppressors, to the Randian fantasts and libertarian fakers, to the closeted and not-so-closeted racists who have been so empowered by the party that has given them a home, to the enemies of science and to the enemies of reason, to the devil's bargain of obvious tactical deceit and to the devil's honoraria of dark, anonymous money, and, ultimately, to those shadowy places in himself wherein Romney sold out who he might actually be to his overweening ambition. It is a fearsome bill to come due for any man, let alone one as mendaciously malleable as the Republican nominee. Obama owes the disgruntled. Romney owes the crazy. And that makes all the difference."



    Whole article here: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/obama-endorsement-2012-14278423#ixzz2AvK4oGOK



    L

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited October 2012

    HL, that was some interesting reading....and very well expressed. Thanks.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    ((((Alexandria)))) 

    Alone in the dark sure does suck.  Hope your husband gets home quick.  (I hope you get your power back soon, too, but I know the first wish is more realistic.)

    Linda

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    DH is home and Im over the panic attack. Thsnks all. Do need to do this Ive been having some symptoms that are most likely nothing but need to be checked. DH brought alternative nasty stuff to drink that shpuld do the trick.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Well good! Glad that your DH s home.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Missing Notself....where are you?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    Just had to share this Nate Silver "tweet" - saw it on DKos

    "Nate Silver @fivethirtyeight

    7 polls released in Ohio in past 48 hours: Obama +2, Obama +3, Obama +3, Obama +3, Obama +5, Obama +5, Obama +5. #notthatcomplicated"

    Now I really DO wish we had jumpy emoticons ;-)))))

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