I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Thanks Chickadee...I'm the type that would watch it like a mother hen.  I won't even leave an electric heater on in my house unless I"m home.  A couple of years ago, my town had the same type of event (no power for days, snowy and cold) and I would have done anything for heat, but my middle name is cautious.  I don't want to be unsafe lighting the burners, though.

http://www.redding.com/news/2010/jan/23/mount-shasta-residents-cope-with-spending-days/

I have the same question Rosemary - also the content of that other thread is downright poisonous - frankly think they've gone way too far - guess it's o.k. with mods though because nothing ever gets deleted over there - latest is that Rahm Emanuel and President Obama are lovers - nice eh?  Like I keep saying "how can these people call themselves Christian?"

Ohio’s Three Leading Newspapers Blast Romney’s ‘Jeep-To-China’ Lie In Critical Swing State

Romney Tells Lie No. 65,824. Image meme courtesy of DemocraticUnderground.com.

Republican Presidential Candidate, Mitt Romney’s desperation to win Ohio’s critical 18-Electoral Votes is sowing confusion in the state and generating open anger from many newspapers there, now openly calling him out for his ‘big lie.’

As reported today by The Washington Post, The Toledo Blade, Cleveland Plain Dealer andColumbus Dispatch–three of the state’s most influential newspapers–have all printed scathing denunciations of Romney for reporting this false story, which Jeep’s parent company Chrysler (owned by Fiat) has refuted. Ohio’s economy  is—of course—heavily dependent on the auto industry and there are several Chrysler plants in operation there, including one in Defiance, Ohio, where Romney made his original claim, last Thursday in a stump speech—bringing groans from his audience–stating:

“I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state, Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China.”

This prompted Chrysler to release an immediate statement refuting the lie,

Let’s set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China. It’s simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world’s largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation. A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments.

However, that has not deterred the Romney campaign from ‘doubling-down’ on the lie, releasing a new campaign ad in Ohio…continuing to mislead voters in a twisted effort to counter the criticism he received for his infamous New York Times Op-Ed in 2008, “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”

This original false claim and the new Romney Campaign Ad (Video)—which, though more nuanced—still leaves an impression which is patently untrue; prompted blistering criticism and an editorial titled: “Flailing In Ohio: Romney rolls out Jeep ploy”, from the largest newspaper in Ohio, The Cleveland Plain Dealer, which said of Romney,

The Romney campaign clearly is being hurt by the fact that Chrysler and GM were saved by the decisions of President Barack Obama. So Romney and his surrogates claim that Obama essentially followed their blueprint for the rescue or that it really wasn’t a good deal — because some plants and dealerships closed — or, now, that the wolf is back at the door.

It won’t work. Ohio voters know who stepped up when the auto industry was at the abyss–and it wasn’t Romney.

Already having cemented his reputation as perhaps the most fluid, craven ‘flip-flopper’ in American presidential political history, Mitt has now sowed up his reputation as the most bold-faced liar as well.

Sandy & Kam, there is a certain utility in leaving all that foul, rotting garbage out where people can see it. Others can see just what kind of people post vileness like that. Prancing around calling themselves Christians and making hateful, racist posts just exposes them for what they are. Sometimes the mirror shows the ugly to the rest of the world. I'm expecting that they'll whine and complain about being called out, too -- so look quickly, since the mods will probably edit this. But the ugly speaks for itself and reveals the content -- or lack thereof -- of their characters.



L

Interesting, RR - I checked before I composed my post and they had not been deleted. Thanks for pointing that out.



L

Drive by.......hmmmmmmm......drive by.........somehow that doesn't fit what happens because typically a drive by shooting implies grievous harm. Which can't happen with ignorant rants.



Maybe they are attempting a......wait for it........Bushwhacking!



I was thinking about how electing Romney would be like putting another Bush in the White House. And we all know how wonderfully that turned out. I don't care to be Bushwhacked again.

Thanks mods - I wish you had erased ALL drive-bys - especially the Sept 11 attacks we had. But it's a start.

Your're so right and it wouldn't hurt so bad if the conservatives could quit allowing themselves to be the duped pawns of Fox's outstanding lies being told daily news source.  Yikes...in this day and age to sign on with known liars.  What pray tell do you expect???

Normally I'd have a hard time justifying posting such a picture, but if you think about it, this picture represents the difference of how each candidate would manage such a significant natural disaster.  Romney would leave it up to the states and "privatize" most of it, if he could.  Our President understands the need for federal leadership when a storm of this magnitude, that affects so many Americsns, with such significant damage, occurs.

To provide some sense of the magnitude of the disaster response to Sandy:



Team,



Last night, Sandy made landfall near Atlantic City, New Jersey, leaving extensive flooding and massive damage in its wake. As a result, President Obama issued major disaster declarations for New Jersey and New York early this morning and Connecticut this evening. These declarations authorized Individual Assistance in declared counties, Public Assistance for debris removal and life sustaining measures, including Direct Federal Assistance, and Hazard Mitigation assistance. In addition, the President issued an emergency declaration for New Hampshire, authorizing direct federal assistance for emergency protective measures. Sandy remains a very large storm system that continues to pose life-threatening hazards for coastal and inland areas including high winds, heavy rains, dangerous storm surge and flash flooding, and snow in some areas.



Secretary Napolitano has joined us in the National Response Coordination Center (NRCC) several times over the past few days, participating in Video Teleconferences with the affected states and briefings with President Obama. During these briefings, the President has continued to express his gratitude to FEMA and the rest of the emergency management team. The President emphasized that his top priorities are to provide all available resources to states and locals responders as quickly as possible, to engage in immediate lifesaving and life sustaining activities, and power restoration.



FEMA continues to coordinate with the affected states and local communities, our interagency partners representing the Federal Emergency Support Functions, the Voluntary Organizations Active in Disasters, and the Private Sector, to name a few. We have been in consistent contact with the Department of Energy to identify and address any bottlenecks to restoring power and ensure that the entire team is working in an expeditious and coordinated manner. We are coordinating with our private sector partners through the National Business Emergency Operations Center. I participated in a conference call with over one hundred private sector representatives to emphasize the need for two way communication so that we can identify which business are operating and any challenges they may be facing. Secretary Napolitano, Administrator Fugate, and representatives from NOAA and the National Hurricane Center held a call with Congressional members in affected areas to provide the members with updates on the storm and address any concerns.



Currently, more than 1,900 FEMA personnel are positioned along the East Coast working to support disaster preparedness and response operations, including search and rescue, situational awareness, communications and logistical support. Nine federal urban search and rescue task forces have been activated and are deploying in the storm-impacted areas as needed. An additional six federal urban search and rescue task forces have been placed on alert for potential activation if required. Fourteen Incident Management Assistance Teams and several liaison officers are positioned in state emergency operations centers along the East Coast supporting preparedness activities. Disability Integration Advisors are assisting emergency managers in the affected states with current and potential post-storm operations. Mobile Emergency Response Support equipment and teams are in place along the East Coast supporting the states with secure and non-secure voice, video, and information services, operations, and logistics support, as well as with any potential requests for assistance.



In collaboration with the Department of Defense, we established Incident Support Bases to pre-position supplies including water, meals, blankets and other resources closer to potentially impacted areas, should they be needed and requested by states. As of this morning, FEMA has moved roughly 245,000 liters of water, more than 174,000 meals and thousands of blankets and cots to Westover Air Reserve Base; and more than 400,000 liters of water and more than 390,000 meals and thousands of cots to Lakehurst Naval Air Station in Lakehurst, NJ, and more commodities are en route, as weather conditions permit. And this afternoon, General Jacoby from the U.S. Northern Command and I discussed further coordination efforts.



We are going to continue to see significant impacts, such as flooding, potential levee breach, increased power outages, over the next several days. Safety is still an utmost concern. Take time to look around you, use common sense in dangerous situation and check on each other in regular intervals. Keeping one another safe will help us meet FEMA’s mission as part of the over-all disaster response team that includes our federal, state, local and tribal partners.

I must say though, on the other hand, Romney's thinly disguised campaign ( Rally ) was repugnant.  Of course, he has to seem caring.  It looked like an opportunistic venture to me.  Probably why so many are back on Libya.  No points on the Rally and so might as well try to stir up something somewhere else.  You must focus on, on, on, well, things that could be wrong, or that you  could make wrong.  Lighten up just one shade.  Libya will get handled by the proper authorities so the Regressives really aren't needed.

Jackie

Hahaha, Kam! I just imagined the identical looks of horror from both Whoopi and Mitt if they read that.

Oh, BTW, when I was checking out snopes.com this morning about another of the multitudes of scurrilous lies about our President (I love saying that!), I ran across the debunking of the lie that the President had an earpiece in at his debate with Robme:



False. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/photos/earpiece.asp



:-)

Good morning, all. Awake since 3:30 so why not get up and be semi-productive. I was going to study some Pilates stuff, but had to hit FB and BCO and the NYTimes first.

Glad everyone's safe from Sandy, though Alexandria, I hope you can get back to Rachel Maddow soon! My sister lives in the Forest Hills section of Queens, her place is unscathed. She had to stay in a hotel in the city, though, courtesy of Bloomberg (she works for the news there) since she heads the weather team...which is funny, really, because her former jobs were as AP editor and chief. She left the AP after the Katrina mess (as well as leaving New Orleans.) Poor gal, the hurricanes seem to follow her. But, apparently, she enjoyed some fine jalapeno margaritas while holed up in the hotel. I need that recipe--bar tender? Anyway, she gets to go home today, but not by subway...

Proud, proud, proud of our President who get on top of things before Sandy hit. And who was dissing him--Chertoff? (Or was it Heck of a Job Brownie?) Kudos to Christie for his straight talk and crediting Obama. Made me have more respect for him, but I still would never vote for him. Too much like what's his name in Wisconsin on many of his policies. But at least you know where he's coming from, unlike Willard.

I used to think W was the most dispicable of candidates, till now. Willard tops it all. He's evil.

Okay, enough procrastination and rambling. Time for more coffee!

Chickadee - thank you for posting that - makes me PROUD to see how Our PRESIDENT has stepped into taking care of this country =OBAMACARES.  And the thousands of first responders who put their own lives on hold, to SERVE.

Really, I've been very teary about all this.  Feel attacked if I think about what those poisonous barbs are aimed for - which is why I don't even bother to read them( all on ignore anyhow), think the posters have forgotten THE GOLDEN RULE.  Seems to be at the heart of most major religions in the world. Scary what hate and fear can lead people to....sununu is now being laughed at, I'd still rather ignore.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-romneys-jeep-ad-drives-off-the-road-of-truth/2012/10/30/f207c606-22c9-11e2-8448-81b1ce7d6978_story.html?hpid=z4

Alexandria - hope it's warmer, and your power will be restored soon...polertec socks for sleep, Smart Wool for day.  Hugs to all.  Happy Today.