Gerson Therapy

As much as I love Gerson Therapy, I believe that the liver detoxification is not as effective as the liver and gallbladder flushing of the gallstones and intrahepatic gallstones for detox that Dr. Gonzalez and Andreas Moritz have used on all cancer patients.  Dr. Gonzalez uses both types of detox - 2 coffee enemas a day and monthly liver flushes as needed. 

The flushes are safe procedures that use olive oil and lemon or citrus juice, epsom salts and apple juice to soften the gallstones, relax the bile ducts, and flush out the trapped stones.  I skipped the 6 days of apple juice preparation since I already juice bags and bags of Granny Smith apples with my vegetables.  I do my coffee enemas and gallbladder flushes but not on the same days.  It's a more powerful total body cleanse.  I've heard that virtually every cancer patient is packed with gallstones and these intrahepatic gallstones are involved in the progression of almost every known illness.  I have done four flushes so far and I think I finally got them all out and have noticed a great improvement in my health already.

Patrick Timpone Interviews Andreas Moritz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pft6-4Oh3Dw

Oh no, I've just read on his site that Andreas Moritz has just died.  I can't believe it.  RIP, Andreas.  There is lots of sadness here today.  He will be greatly missed.

http://www.ener-chi.com/

Sweetbean, you can't miss them.  They are round and green from years of being in the bile solution.  They look just like green peas and they float!  There are so many of them packed inside of the gallbaldder that you wouldn't believe it.  I felt them rolling out of my gallbladder went I went to bed the first time.  After the first flushes, the intrahepatic stones will move forward and the liver will be cleared of these stones.  Those were not round but light brown in color and flatter and longer that the green ones, some small like sesame seeds.  I passed one the size of a quarter.  The gallstones are cholesterol deposits that contain toxins that the liver wraps up to store away.  They are produced when we eat refined, processed foods and too much animal protein.

Here are sone images for you to look at.

https://www.google.com/search?q=andreas+moritz+gallstones&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=pHKFUIGIGaiE0QGUu4DYDw&biw=1150&bih=604&sei=s3KFUPJJ7IHRAd6OgeAD

I just read a wonderful testament to the healing power of these flushes and to the ineffectiveness of traditional cancer therapies.  Many experts are coming forward and stating that there is a cover-up in the cancer industry that I can no longer ignore.  Many people are waking up to it and now want alternatives to mainstream medicine.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5846420-defending-the-practitioners-of-alternative-and-integrative-medicine

I hope you are on a full body detox with the milk thistle for 21 days.  I heard it is dangerous not to cleanse on the cellular level when doing a single organ cleanse.  I juice organic fruit and vegetables so these are quite cleansing but I think flushing with lots of water is also detoxifying enough but I'm not completely sure.

Have you all seen the video put out by this lady?  She was a nurse and used the Gerson Therapy.  View Gerson Therapy- A Nurses Testimonial here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APcFISE2EyQ

I know they were in existence before the Gerson Therapy, but that doesn't change the fact, that they are NOT endorsed by the medical community.  People can believe anything they want, and do whatever they want to with their bodies, BUT.....These methods are not proven!  Maybe someone does these things, and they all of a sudden "get well."  That doesn't mean the enemas, or other de-tox ideas made them better.

My friend,  (my Daughter's friend) who just passed away, did not WANT to have radiation nor chemo after her surgery.  Instead she and her DH went to Brazil, or where-ever "John of God" lives.  He is supposed to be this "healer" with his methods and beliefs.    They came back home, and within 6 months, she had to go on chemo!  Her cancer had spread everywhere!  Sure, maybe it would have anyway, but she didn't care what her medical team advised her after her surgery. 

 She was then on chemo for another 6 months, went to a nursing home, then hospice.   She died in my Daughter's arms....  She had told my Daughter she should not have gone to Brazil, and taken care of things like her team suggested.

It's just so sad.... to lose someone...someone who will try ANYthing to get well, but will not listen to the medical profession.....

I wish you well, and please take care of yourself.

http://www.ineedcoffee.com/07/enemadanger/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_enema

http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/12246/1/Dangers-of-Coffee-Enema.html

Okay, I looked it up.... Is THIS what you mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijama

I guess people can do whatever they want with and to their bodies, but some of these "treatments" just do NOT seem to be nothing more than witch-craft!  This ranks right up there with "blood-letting!"

I would undergo chemo, rather than something like that....  Like my friend I talked about earlier.... She believed in John of God, and she put her trust in his beliefs, and died of mets.....  Even the chemo couldn't save her..... It was all just too late.

I hope somehow the Moderators remove this thread.... these so-called treatments belong somewhere else, and not on BC.ORG.

Chevy,

I'm not sure it's the topic per se that needs to be removed as much as it's the brand new posters who just seem to gravitate to this forum with these posts.  It's always a red flag to me when suddenly this brand new poster signs up to BCO and posts only on this forum.  Not sure if they're even women with breast cancer, maybe they're just getting their kicks, but it's sick how they can affect people who really do have breast cancer.

Chevyboy and digger-be careful lest you be accused of bullying and not being welcoming. Heaven forbid you tell people the consequences of their choices. 

Mary

Doctors? Why-they're just profit-seeking, money-grubbing terror mongers! Who would ever trust a doctor? Let's trust someone with a website instead!

Mary

Chevyboy-I'm almost 3 years out myself. Isn't it amazing that our conventional doctors didn't kill us?

Mary

Digger - where have you been? We missed you.

Mary and Chevy - spot on comments. Some of these treatments are totally unproven and dangerous.

I am 3 years out and amazingly alive.

Eliza,

Thanks for the reminder. Yes, I seem to remember the traditional Merck Medical Manual prescribed coffee enemas for detoxing the liver during illnesses. Coffee enemas were standard of care medicine for 100 years.

I believe a reporter reviewed the Gerson Clinic records and followed up after 5-10 years. Ralph Moss has also done this. For some reason the Gerson Protocol has the best success with melanoma. Breast Cancer Advocate Ann Fonfa (the annie Appleseed Project) reported on her stay at the Gerson Clinic 18 years ago. It's somewhere on the web. Both she and her roommate had breast cancer. Gerson worked for her roommate buy not for Ann. Ann moved on to other alternatives and is still very much alive after 18 plus years! 

Sweetbean - there was absolutely no reason for those posts to be deleted - so you really didn't miss anything.

2nd diagnosis October 2010 - IDC 5.8mm node negative - missed on mammogram in October 2009
Dx 10/13/2009, ILC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+

Hi - the new Gerson thread caught my attention, read fully.  Welcome to the new ones. 

Cesium chloride, the FDA taketh away because some choices like this one we can kill ourselves off.  It will not work unless the food protocol is stringently followed anyway.  It is to raise the pH.  There are other safer ways to do so. 

Laetrile, allegedly in several forms now, the laetrile is effective no matter what one is doing.  There is info in the Laetrile book and Outsmart Your Cancer book on what it is and why FDA dismissed its use for a time.  It can be ordered again, but bite your nails bcz doubt it will be for long.  I swear by the Laetrile. 

Gerson Therapy, I am too weak and not wealthy enough to use it no matter what way I kick it around.  I have a vague theory that it will work and well but if going off it, the c comes back bcz the reason was not addressed and the deep root of it not cleared.  Nutrition andcleansing may not be enough.  But alternatives can be, given the right protocol choices for the one person who needs those.  Very specific needs.

LOVEEssa

Joellelee,

Most likely the deleted posts were from the usual Saturday night forum disrupters, not from serious students of alternatives. The moderators try to keep on top an any such vandalism to this forum. Thank you, Mods.

Not to worry, Joellelee! Upward and onward   Let's keep the discussion going and not get distracted.

Seems we all agree that posts should not be deleted!  I personally hate finding posts deleted like this.  I didn't read these before they disappeared, but I sure wish they could be left up for discussion.  Are we not reasonable adults capable of discussion without the deleting games, immature name-calling, and silly accusations of "vandalism(?!)"?