I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2012

    Cranky Susie here - Miss Poppy was missing when I got home today. Called and called and she was a no show. Finally after dinner she turned up at the back door - naughty kitty. Caused me a lot of grief worrying though, so I scolded her but cuddled her too.

    Been kicking ass at work - solved an issue with our software that even the supplying company couldn't solve.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Here is another really good article from "Mother Jones" on voter suppression and the origins of the current Regressive jihad against people they don't want to have the vote (yes, lurkers, I used "jihad" on purpose, understanding the full connotations, and I meant it!).

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/voter-suppression-kevin-drum?page=1

    I got to it through another article from my FB feed.  This is from over the summer, but it contains some interesting information that I didn't previously know -- that the current push to disenfranchise minorities came from Missouri Senator Kit Bond in support of John Ashcroft, who lost his Senate election to a dead man (Mel Carnahan) in 2000.  You know, it couldn't possibly have been that voters simply loathed John Ashcroft so much that they would rather vote for a dead man ... it MUST'VE been fraud.  (not!)

    Pull quote from the conclusion:

    "

    The scandal of the photo ID laws, then, isn't so much that they give one party an advantage, or even that they affect minorities disproportionately. The scandal is that they knowingly target minorities. So even if the real-life effects of these laws are small, they're impairing civil rights that African Americans and others have spent decades fighting, and sometimes dying, for. This in turn means that something most of us thought was finally taboo—active suppression of minority votes—isn't really taboo after all. As Eric Holder put it in a speech earlier this year, there are those who fear that "some of the   achievements that defined the civil rights movement now hang in the   balance."

    Electoral politics has always been a dirty game, but in recent decades most of us felt that there was, at least, a consensus that systematic, national-level efforts to discourage minority voting were at last beyond the pale. But maybe we were just kidding ourselves."

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2012/10/29/121029taco_talk_editors?printable=true#ixzz2ADWQw6jv

    and a BIG BIG thank you to Kam, for reprinting the COVER...inside it gives "homage" to Norman RockwellLaughing

    I LOVE LOVE LOVE reading the New Yorker, "subscribing after all these years" - to the tune of SimonGarfunkel, can't remember ever not reading it, this Editor ( David R.) is my FAVOURITE.  Oh, of course, I love the cartoons too...

    Happy Today

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    http://www.fbi.gov/phoenix/press-releases/2012/u.s.-attorney-announces-efforts-to-protect-voters-and-prevent-fraud-in-november-2012-elections

    All U.S. Attorneys offices around the country are putting out press releases like this to alert the public that they are watching for voter suppression efforts. 

    "In addition, the FBI will have special agents available in each field office and resident agency throughout the country to receive allegations of election fraud and other election abuses on election day. The local FBI field office can be reached by the public at (623) 466-1999.

    Complaints about ballot access problems or discrimination can be made directly to the Civil Rights Division’s Voting Section in Washington at 1-800-253-3931 or (202) 307-2767."

    Important information.

    L

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Athena...I did not get msnbc on until Dh came home from work...you are so correct on this.  Rachel laid it out and it was with perfect, orderly sense.  It wasn't so easy to see until Romney made it known who he would choose for a Cabinet. 

    This man needs to pick up his smirky grin, lack of empathy, false words and promises and go home.  I might say the same for those like Akin and Murdock.  Way too many people wearing sheep these days.

    I as well very much agree....this late, Trump who is a scum-bag ( not too articulate here ) can also go back under his rock.  Gossip-mongers, and I so rarely have time or care.  It's the motives of these people that make them so repulsive.  

    Getting ready to get over to John Cochran ENT Dr. and see what they can do with  my ear.  Even if they can repair the hole I will have to get hearing aids...sigh !!!! Partly a sign of age, but hey, it could be worse...far worse.  Be looking for all of you when I get back.  Great articles you provided this morning.

    Jackie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Jackie - i LOVE my hearing aids, Oticon BTE, and they're purple Kiss  Lovely to be able to hear the birds chirping again.  Just plain ole age related hearing loss, nothing to do with chemotherapy, hope you have a good experience with them too...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Does anybody else read Mike Allen on Politico:Smile

    "MORNING MINDMELD : As an antidote to the (perhaps) irrational Republican exuberance that seems to have seized D.C., we pause for the following public-service announcement. To be President, you have to win states, not debates. And Mitt Romney has a problem. Despite a great debate and what The Wall Street Journal's Neil King Jr. on Sunday called a polling "surge," Romney has not put away a single one of the must-have states. President Obama remains the favorite because he only needs to win a couple of the toss-ups. Mitt needs to win most of them. A cold shower for the GOP: Most polling shows Romney trailing in Ohio, Wisconsin, Nevada, New Hampshire and Iowa - by MORE than Obama trails in North Carolina. Glenn Thrush and Jonathan Martin reminded of us of the 2008 primary analogy: Whatever else Hillary Clinton had, Barack Obama had the math. And math, not momentum, gets you the big house, the bulletproof car, the cool plane. We now resume our regularly scheduled Playbook."

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Trump is the king of trash. He can't make it into Forbes list of richest people and hasn't been able to for the longest time, so he has to push his celebrity somewhere else.

    That man is so vulgar that it's breathtaking.

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Sunflowers, did you get your hearing aids through an audiologist or just order them from somewhere? DH recently went to be tested and he needs aids but they only showed him two different kinds, both very expensive and he can't adjust them - he'd have to go back to them for adjustments. He's kind of looking around for other options.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    WR - do you think Republican women condone this?  Mitt Romney has endorsed this Congressional candidate, I know that.  If this doesn't say "War on Women" I don't know what does.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    Looks as though Trump's big announcement was actually a non-announcement.  There must be a lot of Tea Party Republicans out there with whiplash, having moved so quickly from supporting him as the great conservative hope to dismissing him as a total doofus.  (Though as a former supporter of John Edwards I can sympathize.  A little.)

    Linda

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited October 2012

    What WAS his big announcement, Linda?

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    His big announcement was that he would donate $5 million to the charity of Obama's choice if he made public his passport application (WTF??) and college records.

    Linda

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    But why stop there?  Personally, I want a full list of every book Obama has ever checked out of the library.  And I want to read his freshman term papers, too.

    I'm not a big Twitter person, but I understand the Twitterverse is having a lot of fun at the Donald's expense.

    Linda

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    All that blowhard wants is attention. Obama should under no terms even acknowledge Trump's "challenge." Trump is a total clown.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited October 2012

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I&feature=youtu.be&hd=1

    This is the youtube of Trump's big announcement. I wondered if he would promise another cheque for Romeny to release his tax records. Apparently that's not as important to him as President Obama's school records. What a strange world Trump inhabits.

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Too freaking funny! This is his big announcement?! What an idiot.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited October 2012

    Honestly, the silly season just goes on and on, you would think by now that the repubs would be soooooo embarrassed - the Tea Party is the gift that keeps on giving.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    Hot off the press: Romney will continue to endorse Murdoch, despite his comments about God sanctioning rape! Surprised

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    aw, and here I thought he was gonna reveal the "secret" of his hairdo....

    rr - I sent you a pm

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    To be fair, Mourdock agrees that rape is bad.  However, if your magic anti-sperm defenses fail, then it's God's will that you carry your rapist's child. 

    Unbelievable. 

    Linda

    (edited because I can't spell)

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012

    What offends me is that these goons think they should be able to overrule the female victim.  Doesn't matter the circumstances ... doesn't matter if it's a 12 year old ... doesn't even matter if she was seriously injured during a rape and/or if a pregnancy is dangerous to her health.  Their God only gives free will to men I guess. 

    Kam ... the majority of the comments I've seen on local news sites are outraged.  The moderate Republicans already were not happy with him over Lugar.  This has made that worse for him ... as it certainly should.    

    Poor Trump.  Whatever he was planning must have flopped so he once again ended up with a big bag of nothing.  And in other news I saw today Trump Place has fired him (his company) as their managers.

              

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    So this Murdoch guy was the one who beat Lugar?  I haven't had a chance to look at the news today and misconstrued that he was running for a Congressional district.  This is scarey...the possibility of adding two more Neanderthals to the Senate?  What are Republican women thinking? There are still those that would vote for someone like this, just because they can't get out of their ideological quagmire.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    Assuming Akin is the other neanderthal (and really, the actual neanderthals were WAY more enlightened than these bozos!), I don't think either is going to end up in the Senate.  My understanding is that Akin is trailing badly in the polls, and while the Indiana race has been very close, the more people see of Mourdock, the more they support his opponent!

    That's my sense, anyhow.  Maybe WR can give us the inside scoop!

    Linda

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Sorry for insulting Neanderthals.  Sealed Yes Akin, but there are a few on the House side...Alen West, Joe Walsh, for starters.  I just read that Murdoch was the only Senator that Mitt Romney endorsed.  He also hangs out with Trump....should we say guilt by association?

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    I heard CM just say that 2 in 5 Republicans think Obama not born in the USA.  Just wow.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    Kam, wonder if that number represents the teabags. They're just about the only ones stupid enough to believe such garbage.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012
  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited October 2012

    Have you heard that Romney's wife is gay??  Apparently she and Romney have a marriage in name only.  Apparently, there is lots of proof of this if you look on the internet.  The gossip is that once she met Sarah Palin, Mrs Romney couldn't resist Caribou Barbie!  Mrs Romney supposedly told friends why stay with Mr Boring Liar if she could be with Mrs Exciting Liar!  Apparently Drudge is sitting on this news because he is afraid that the Tealiban's heads may explode or they may all turn gay!  Completely shocking news!

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    An excellent lesson in why one shouldn't credulously repeat everything one finds on the internet, coveratanjou!

    Lindasa, it's interesting that the only country in which Romney outpolls Obama is Pakistan.  (And that Canadians are even stronger for Obama than Kenyans! Wink)

    Linda 

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