I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited October 2012

    Sending warm thoughts to E with upcoming surgery and Blue with a sore leg. Here's hoping all goes well for everyone.

    On another note, I was surprised to find a link in my Facebook news feed indicating that there will be UN monitors for the US election. Not surprising considering the number of voter suppression and voter intimidation strategies in play. I looked it up to see if it was a satiric article - seems it's real. This is a more moderate article on the topic.

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2024911/pg1

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Lassie - that's fantastic that these Voter Supression tactics are getting international attention.  And this Catherine Englebrecht (True the Vote) is at the top of their list.

    If anyone has observed what is going on in Ohio with early voting, there is nothing else one can surmise other than Voter Supression by that Republican's state government.

    I fear that the worst fraud will come with counting the vote.  Voting machines, missing votes and even the fact that Tagg Romney has ownership in voting machines in Ohio.  Ohio and/or Wisconsin are going to be ground zero.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited October 2012

    ((( Blue ))) I'm so sorry your pain has been exacerbated.  I've been shoveling and raking acorns and my back is killing me.  Time to call it a day and stop messing with the acorns.

    hugs,

    Bren

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Lassie, that's great! We certainly NEED monitors, given the massive effort to disenfranchise minorities and suppress their votes! I'm sure I can already hear heads exploding - the heads of the people who want to engage in voter suppression in the dark! The public officials in Wisconsin and Pennsylavania who are lying to voters about identification required at the polls, the suppressive phone calls with the wrong directions, day and polling place, the voter intimidation promised by True the Vote and other groups -- sunshine is the best disinfectant, and shining the light on this illegal activity is the best way to get them prosecuted. Glad to hear it!



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  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited October 2012

    wow - pretty interesting that "true the vote" should have a problem with outside, totally objective observers - also sad that it's come to this state in the USA.

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited October 2012

    I hope they're in Virginia. The rethug attorney general doesn't seem to think anything is amiss about a dumpster filled with voter registration, all by one person. That's one way to supress voters, never process their registrations.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012

    I think many of us outside the U.S. have a difficult time understanding why states have such authority over federal elections.  If you're voting for President, that's a federal position.  If you're voting for Senator or Representative, those are federal positions.

    Why lump state, judicial (and municipal?) elections in with federal elections?  Why not a separate voting day for federal?

    As for gerrymandering (or changing the makeup) of political districts (which I understand is the purview of the governing party in each state) shouldn't the federal government be in charge of congressional districts?

    It's quite true that the U.S. election has become a talking point around the world.  While we were away, we spoke with many Americans who apologized for the farce this election has become, starting with the obscene amounts of money spent by both parties, and certainly including the Citizens United ruling by the conservative-dominated Supreme Court.  They feel helpless to change it back to respectability.  Bringing in observers from other countries must be the greatest insult to what is the largest democratic republic in the world.

    Just my thoughts.....

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Not to change the subject of Voter Supression (which I think should be Number one), this photo just makes me hate pink even more...now pink is being used to elect Romney?

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    They must all be rich enough to buy their own mammograms rather than go through insurance, because that will be the only way they get them of Romney is elected and follows through with his promises to eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood and destroy the ACa, and Ryan's intent to slash Title X family planning funds -- including the Breast and Cervical Cancer Program funds -- and devastate Medicaid. They certainly don't care about their sisters who need these things.



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  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Chaplain, Kookienellie is a busy man! He doesn't have TIME to investigate little piddly problems like FELONY destruction of voter registrations! He is waaaay too busy trying to close abortion clinics with punitive regulations, threaten and intimidate Virginia Board of Health members, find ways to reinstitute state-sponsored rape via transvaginal ultrasounds, and generally stuff women back into the 1950s. Investigating such an inconsequential thing as FELONY voter suppression is just too far down his to-do list. Until a Democratic election observere asks a Republican to stop harassing voters, in which event he will insist on FELONY voter interference charges. See how it works?



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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Who promotes those pink wrist bands they're all wearing? Could this be coordinated through Komen?

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    I doubt it, Kam - I'm guessing this is a group like a lot of the groups you see at Komen events (or other BC events) . . . they form a team and make their own shirts.

    Not the team I'd join, but whatever.

    (In the past I've see politically-named relay teams at the Detroit marathon.  Wouldn't surprise me if there were some this year, as well.  Though with Paul "sub-3" Ryan on the ticket, they need to tread carefully among marathoners, who are very touchy about people who lie about their times.)

    Linda

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Thanks Linda - never have participated in one of those pink parades, but come to think of it, I recently found an ACS pink wristband in one of my "care" bags, but while on the topic of Ann Romney and BC, I understand she had DCIS.  This next part is only heresay, but she has called her BC "aggressive."  I suppose DCIS can be biopsied and graded, but is this a term used with DCIS?

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited October 2012

    Chaplain ... looking for the 'like' button!

    Kam ... thanks for posting the picture.  I've seen it before and it gave me a stomachache.

    hugs

    Bren

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    DCIS is definitely biopsied and graded, and I do know a lot of people who describe their DCIS as "aggressive."  I think that has to do with the likelihood of it turning invasive.  (I had a mixture of IDC and DCIS, so naturally I was focused on the IDC, which was low-grade; but the DCIS was high-grade.)

    Linda

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited October 2012

    Kam ... DCIS is graded, just like IDC.  I don't know if the higher the grade means the more likelihood of it turning into IDC.  Grade III DCIS means that it is aggressive, but whether or not it turns into invasive cancer is the million dollar question.

    I had IDC, DCIS and LCIS in my tumor.  They only graded the IDC, which was a II.

    Hope this helps.

    hugs,

    Bren

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited October 2012

    Why would anyone be against monitors at the polling stations?  "True Vote" rather than "True the Vote".

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Kam, yes -- DCIS is graded, like everyone said. Mine was Grade 3 with comedo necrosis ... Meaning it was extra-aggressive (growing so fast that the cells at the center were dying). When I was being modeled for rads during my first go-round, the rads onc told the tech who was figuring the dosage to "bump it up another notch - that is an aggressive cancer." I call it my "Washington D.C.-type cancer ... It was super aggressive and going places."



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  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited October 2012

    Someone posted on FB yesterday a picture of a "team Romney" in pink with Ann Romney. The caption she wrote was the future first lady of the United States. Nearly puked. What made it worse is this is a person who asked me and others not to put anything political on FB. I did to her what I suggested to my posts, I blocked her.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Just home from work and glad to hear of the monitors.  It is definitely needed and I can't help but feel that those who are objecting have reasons they are not talking about because they can't.  A very sad state of affairs that we are viewed in a rather negative fashion apparently by many in the world and even more than that to me is why!!!!   I'd like to ask what is wrong with people who would carry on like that but I actually know.  Some people need to grow up, get over themselves, and try living with morals and integrity which seems so sadly lacking.  We need to prize the very things that make so much of a person, that give a sterling character, and that make people want to emulate because all of the emmanations are so positive.  So much for one to hang their head about, but I guess they are too far beyond.  Well, there is always karma and it is something you can't dodge. 

    Jackie

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Election season stress was getting to me and a friend just sent me the funniest little animated video. It doesn't have a thing to do with politics or breast cancer. It was just a nice little mental health break for me. It's called "Ormie the Pig."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=FrTbnczYAd4&feature=player_embedded

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012

    Where's the ACME Cookie Retrieval Kit when you need it? Laughing   So funny, RR -- thanks for sharing!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    I was disgusted that both Michelle Obama and Ann Romney dressed in pink at the last debate. Disappointing. It perpetrates a sexist movement.

    Next Door: before the debate - hoping Soteria/Paula has done well in surgery.

    Man, we're all sick as dawgs - it's pathetic. Just posted on another thread about my tragi-comical tale with hormone therapy.

    But....ENOUGH...Looking forward to the debate tonight. I expect Romney will try to point the finger at Obama. I really hope Obama makes note of the fact that Romney managed to insult at least two peoples in one oversease trip (Britain and the Palestinians) and that he really needs to show more statesmanship.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Dan Senor, pre-eminent neocon of the Bush Administration, current Romney advisor for foreign affairs, on Morning Joe, has already tried to walk back Romney's previous sabre rattling on Iran - designed to please the rightwing warmongers.  More etch-a-sketch for the moderate masses.  Game Changer Heilmann called him out on it.

    Athena - hang in there on the hormones.  xxo

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    A very good, detailed, reasoned endorsement of President Obama by the New Yorker:



    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2012/10/29/121029taco_talk_editors



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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Picked up prescriptions today...pink lids on the darned bottles. Does everything have to be pink this month?

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012
  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    RR, sadly I think it does. I'm starting to believe people think if they put out enough pink that will cure cancer.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Reproducing the last paragraph of the New Yorker endorsement of Obama:

    The reëlection of Barack Obama is a matter of great urgency. Not only are we in broad agreement with his policy directions; we also see in him what is absent in Mitt Romney—a first-rate political temperament and a deep sense of fairness and integrity. A two-term Obama Administration will leave an enduringly positive imprint on political life. It will bolster the ideal of good governance and a social vision that tempers individualism with a concern for community. Every Presidential election involves a contest over the idea of America. Obama’s America—one that progresses, however falteringly, toward social justice, tolerance, and equality—represents the future that this country deserves.

    Wonderful editorial aside, I love how the New Yorker spells words like re-election and co-operation.

    I still wish we would write "aesthetic" in this country instead of "esthetic." To say nothing of  "oestrogen."

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    And another good article from the New Yorker on one of the main drivers behind the Republican conspiracy to engage in voter fraud. (I guess the New Yorker has recovered from Tina Brown :-) ).



    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/29/121029fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all



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