I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Athena~ Thanks for this post. I'm new to this dreaded disease. Dx on 7/27/12, having surgery Monday, and won't know final dx until path comes back a week after surgery.



I didn't know much at all about Komen, but I've been seeing a lot of negative info about this org.



Thanks again for educating us.



Blessings

Paula

I looked at the label of my calcium supplement and the company is donating to Susan G. Komen.  I am going to call them Monday and set them straight.

This election could end up as a tie in the Electoral College.  If it does, the House of Representatives will select the President and the Senate will select the Vice President.  This means we will get a Democratic President and Vice President.  How so, you may ask?  Romney has no core beliefs and obeys anyone he sees as powerful.  Old Joe will have Romney in a head lock on day one.  Romney will be Biden's poodle boy.

Good luck Soteria.  Walks in this park are not a lot of fun, but one step closer is always good.

Jackie

I think the mods are kidding themselves if they think this will end with the election.  The ugliness has been going on for the last four years, and has insinuated its way into threads about a wide variety of ostensiblly nonpolitical topics -- from mammograms to the issues faced by mastectomy patients at airport security.  To my mind, it's about basic respect; respect for one another and respect for truth.

It's nuts, in my book, to assert a right to post random rumors pulled from the internet, or to make stuff up, and then deny others the right to point out falsehoods and factual misstatements.  It's even worse when that privileged status is granted to one thread and only one thread.

I suppose I could learn to grit my teeth when people post utter nonsense  -- nonsense that a quick look-up on the BLS or Census or similar site can disprove.  But my values are such that if someone makes a racist or homophobic or islamophobic statement, I will call them on it.  Period.  As much as I value this board, there are other things I value more.

Hope that doesn't mean I'm a short-termer here.  I thought it was safe to come back, but maybe not.

Linda

lewing - I very much hope you don't grit your teeth. We benefit from your outspoken-ness.

And I agree - I am not going to stop talking politics after the election. Too much is at stake, and we all care. The proof is that this is one of the most visited threads on BCO and we are not even on active topics.

Breast cancer is, in many ways, weaved into the national fabric. So much policy affects us. For example, if budget sequestration goes through as expected, the NIH's budget for research will be flat - that affects us bc patients. So we do and should care about budget and fiscal talks. That is just one way in which we are embedded into the political landscape. BC is an expensive illness with no cure. Almost all of us who get it travel a long road in which, like it or not, we come up against government policies, business climates and research capacity.

If I had to get such a serious illness as cancer, I wish I could at least be allowed to be ill with no argument and treat my illness. But every step of the way -and this is regardless of your finacial resources-- politics, budgets and laws confrnt you.

Until we become a civilized nation with a single payer system, bc will continue to be a sadly political issue.

Even if that happens, I hope our thread survives.

The real disgusting news of the day is that Issa's trying to make political hay out of the incident in Libya has now resulted in comprising our national security.  The identities of those working for and with us has been made public by his dump of documents. 

This was provided before I think but everybody who wants to know what 'really' happened and what the attack was like ... instead of the whining about why didn't you tell us this or that ... should read it.  I'm getting real tired of the Republicans making it sound like our people there were just left sitting in an unsecured hotel room or something.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  The attackers set the buildings on fire.  Let's find them and punish them and quit trying to use the deaths of Americans who were serving their country as political pawns.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/10/198791.htm#.UHmUMQQjpX0.twitter

Some excerpts ...

"The compound is roughly 300 yards long – that’s three football fields long – and a hundred yards wide. We need that much room to provide the best possible setback against car bombs. Over the next few months, physical security at the compound is strengthened. The outer wall is upgraded, its height is increased to nine feet.It is topped by three feet of barbed wire and concertina wire all around the huge property. External lighting is increased. Jersey barriers, which are big concrete blocks, are installed outside and inside the gate. Steel drop bars are added at the gates to control vehicle access and to provide some anti-ram protection. The buildings on the compound itself were strengthened."

"And I should break for a second and describe what a safe haven is. A safe haven is a fortified area within a building. This particular safe haven has a very heavy metal grill on it with several locks on it. It essentially divides the one – the single floor of that building in half, and half the floor is the safe haven, the bedroom half. Also in the safe haven is a central sort of closet area where people can take refuge where there are no windows around. In that safe haven are medical supplies, water, and such things. All the windows to that area of the building have all been grilled. A couple of them have grills that can be open from the inside so people inside can get out, but they can’t be – obviously can’t be opened from the outside."

"The – when the Ambassador traveled to Benghazi, he traveled with two additional security agents over and above the complement of three who were assigned to post. So there were five agents with him there rather than the two who are normally assigned there – the three who are normally assigned. So they were up two."

I read the comments to that article Athena.  Well done by all who commented.  I think the Komen person in that article probably believes the fluff ... hopefully her eyes have been opened.

Linda ... I cringe at some of the stuff too but if people don't care if it is actually true or not there is nothing you can do.   We want you to stay with us! 

Great song alexandria!

Joining the wishes for quick healing and a smooth path, Soteria -- from a fellow buckeye.  (No matter where I'm living, my roots are in the great state of Ohio.)

Linda

What a beautiful couple Bren! Enjoy your visit with them!

Interesting clip about accuracy and responsibility for statements on Fox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKH5rLVhxK4&feature=g-vrec

BinVA- beautiful 'kids'!

Lewing, sorry to hear about your ex-husband. How awful! 

Leftist era, it will be hard but good ... And a celebration of the good he did in the world and the legacy he left, including your beautiful daughter who is poised to do great things in the world, just like her parents. (((((Linda))))) Happy memories and love to you.



L

Linda, I am so sorry for the loss of your ex-husband.  

Thanks, all.  It's been a little over two months already, but it still seems like the world has shifted a bit - for me and even more so for our daughter.  She's been really, really strong, but I know tomorrow is going to be hard for her.  Ultimately comforting, I hope, but also hard.

Linda

Bin...gorgeous and Alexandria -- great song.

Jackie