I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    E - I'd simply appreciate being treated as I treat others - sick of being deleted by the people I ignore! Please - I don't care what you think - pray return the favour!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Rosemary - there are certain accusations one doesn't even dignify with an acknowledgment. Also, it takes one to know one. Who can forget the way the Dumbya administration cooked the Medicare numbers to enable Tom DeLay to strong-arm the prescription drug plan through congress. They deliberately deflated the cost of the law. I suppose people who have run out of ideas assume others have as well. Not so.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/02/secretary-clinton-house-republ.html



    Blast from the recent past -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warning Boehner and Cantor in early 2011 that their proposed budget cuts would put American diplomatic missions and personnel at risk. Hold hearings on House Republicans, Mr. Issa.



    L

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited October 2012

    Jon Stewart had a funny thing on that the other night, pointing out that if Obama were cooking the books, he has a lousy recipe.  Why 7.8?  Why not 2.8?  If youre going to cook the books, really lower it.  And if he were cooking the books, why wait until now?  Why not have them lower all the way from last January on? The last was my question, not Stewart's.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited October 2012

    People seem to forget or perhaps never knew that Jack Welch cooked the books for GE while he was CEO.  The news came out in an audit right after he retired.  The guy is bucket of poo and in the same league as Enron.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012

    A Romney spokesperson (a Latina with a cartoon-type voice) gave away the R/R campaign strategy (the latest one, of course) today on CNN:  Talk like a moderate during October to get all the low-info undecideds, and govern like a rightwinger once in office.  I'm sure the Obama campaign team had figured that out, but maybe not the undecideds or those simple people who believed Romney during the first debate.

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    I'm enjoying reading all your posts and links this evening.  Here's an article about Jack Welch's lying.

    "Jack Welch has no clue about jobs numbers"

    "Perhaps Welch could get away with this sort of temper tantrum nonsense when he was running one of the biggest companies in the world, but he will only get ridicule pushing this line in policy debates. Either Welch doesn't have any clue about how the unemployment data are collected, or he is just a liar.

    First, it is important to understand that the Bureau of Labor Statistics -- the division of the Labor Department that reports data on unemployment -- is run by career civil servants. Ordinarily, the commissioner is a well-respected academic economist who is appointed by the president. However, since the previous commissioner left this year, John Galvin, a career civil servant, stepped up to fill the role of acting commissioner. This means the bureau does not have a single political appointee......"

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/10/opinion/baker-welch-unemployment/index.html

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Alas, Jack Welch is just another businessman who is use to people saying "yes sir" to anything he says. Add him to the list the other guy is on, you know, the snake oil salesman in charge of Bain Capital.

    Lindasa - I would love to see a clip of that Romney campaign spokeswoman.  Name?? Anything.  Another etch-a-sketch detail.  It is truely unbelievable that this strategy can work, let alone be spoken about. 

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Andrew Sullivan being alarmist and annoying, saying Obama has lost the election. On the other hand, serves Obama right for being complacent and just a bit haughty.

    Sullivan is interesting. Sometimes he is so very off, but when he is on he is great.

    Romney-Ryan are running on the huge reserve of stupidity that keep modern democracies going (people believing everything they read and see, no questions asked). They will lose, but not by as much as they should.

    Not-very-useful Wednesday brain droppings. :-)

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    I sooo hope you're right, Athena!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012

    Kam -- I don't have a clip -- I watched it live.  Can't remember her name but she's plumpish, with a round face, a very high voice and a wee bit of an accent.  I'll check through the CNN website and try to find her name.

    ETA:  Ana Navarro 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    There was a period of time I found Andrew Sullivan disgusting.  I think he supported the invasion of Iraq.  I agree, when he's on, he's very on, but he has weird excursions from sanity.

    I like this pic of our POTUS - I'll just be shallow for the moment :)

     

    Lindasa - don't waste too much of your time looking.  I'm surprised, though, it hasn't been picked up by other networks a la Eric Fehrnstrom's etch a sketch moment. 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    I suppose those that liked David Siegel telling his employees "Vote Romney or lose your job" really loved it when Murray Energy forced their employees to attend a Romney event in Beallsville, Ohio, and lose their pay to do so.  Romney then used the miners as props in television ads complaining about President Obama's "war on coal."  Additionally, salaried employees were required to have a 1% payroll deduction to contribute to a PAC giving donations to Republican candidates.

    An ethics watchdog group wants to know whether an Ohio coal company violated federal election rules by forcing employees to donate to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sent a complaint to the Federal Election Commission on Tuesday alleging that Murray Energy and its CEO Robert Murray "coerced" company employees to make contributions to its political action committee (PAC). 

     

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2013
  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Lie:

    Blah blah blah (ignorant) blah blah (who are you calling corrupt?) blah blah blah making s*** up blah blah blah and blah.

    Restrain me please! 

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited October 2012
  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012
    Remember Kipling's "If" poem, Kam Wink
  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited October 2012

    That is not worthy of a response.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Things found through the looking glass are poison bait, designed to get this thread shut down. Wide blue lines are much better for the physical and mental health of every woman here. You can't compete with an alternate reality and you can't bring light to those who love the dark.





    L

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    (((((Kam))))) Hugging you tightly. It is very difficult, but some things just must be left alone.



    L

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    HL, so true. And I would add, light is the best disinfectant.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012
  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Oh, Kam ... I JUST saw it! ROFLMAO! Even Rachel had to stop and laugh!



    L

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012

    In other news ... an orange tabby cat has taken up residence on my front porch.  First thought it was a lost house cat hiding out in my little dog house.  Upon further inspection I'm seeing runny eyes and a slight limp.  Off to the vet we go tomorrow ... sigh.  Anybody want a cat after I get him all fixed up?  He's purry and friendly.  Will deliver.

    As for the other ... what is never seen does not have to be unseen.  Or something like that. 

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited October 2012

    That's a hoot!!

    Seriously, though, in reading these last several pages, I am so proud of what we share on this thread. It has so much more depth than other forums I've seen. We have fun, we support each other, and we share information, ideas, and opinions. What a thoughtful and thought-provoking group of ladies we have here!!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    I'm back and very down hearted about Siegel and those who would cheer him on.  For that reason I too am trying to just silently repeat the lines to " If ".  You sort of wonder ( could probably find an answer somewhere ) just what was going on in Kipling's  life for those well-thought phrases to be given life through him.  JMO but anyone displaying such behaviors as Siegel and others are barely fit to breath air.  They, in my view, are extremely vile and quite repulsive.  Their is in my opinion nothing good that can come from them.  All that glitters for a time may not be gold at all.  This person is total filth of an especially horrid kind.  Outright bullies are higher on the scale than he.....I wish him well with his karma.

    Jackie

    I think I will have to take the don't bother to look advice.....tends to be repetitve and no happiness there and I feel most facts are slanted pretty much through Fox news which has been around about 16 yrs. or so.  Poorest excuse for news I've ever seen.  Dh and I tried in the beginning for our Republican family to watch it......and we finally realized it was not reality.  Quickest way to lose me.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012
    This poem has never lost its meaning throughout the years.
     
    IF.....IF you can keep your head when all about you 
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:If you can make one heap of all your winnings 
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    ' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
    if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
     
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Thank you Linda -- instant spirit lifter.....now on to Rachel Maddow

    Jackie

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012

    Jackie -- This was a poem I memorized in school, and actually gave a speech about it in a public speaking contest.  It never fails to move me, and imagine, Kipling was just 20 when he wrote it.  Wise beyond his years.....

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