taxotere side effects
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SpecialK - Thanks for the info. I can see where the Tylenol would also help, I had just not heard about that. Did they give you Benadryl every time or just the first one or two? I go again on Thursday for my second treatment and we will see if he gives it to me again or tries something else. One of the nurses seemed to think that he may give it to me again, she said the problems I had sometimes happen the first time but the second time is better. I have decadron pills to start tomorrow, they will give it in the IV before, like you said, and I think some pills for the day after. I still have my hair, it will be 3 weeks on Thursday and it still seems to be holding tight, I keep kind of pulling on places and no hair comes out. I am sure I will be like you and it will just happen one day, but oh well, I figure if the stuff works that is all that matters right now. I have only gotten taxotere which they said would be every 3 weeks and I also take Xeloda 7 days on and 7 days off, I have been on Xeloda for a year. Those are the only 2 chemos I am taking at this time, Zometa I think I will get every 3 weeks also, it was every 4 weeks so I will have to ask on that. I am going to take some Tylenol along and take it before hand like you said and then did you take it for a day or so after or just right before? I know I am full of questions but I like to be prepared and know what may happen, I know we are all different but it still helps to see how others have responded or what they do to help with SE's. How long are you going to be going to Washington, DC for the trial? I sure hope it works, I am also thankful to everyone that does the trials.
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jeanie - I did get Tylenol and Benadryl in my pre-meds prior to each of the 6 tx that were Taxotere, Carboplatin and Herceptin. Once I finished those I went to Herceptin every three weeks for the year, but I did not have any pre-meds prior to those infusions. My MO just does the pre-meds I listed as a standard - I did not have any reactions so they were not given as a result of that, just this doc's standard practice for this chemo coctail. I did not take any pain related meds after infusion except after the first Neulasta injection - I believe I just took a couple of Tylenol one time. After that I did not really experience much bone pain from either Neulasta or Taxotere. I did actually have some pain after the first Herceptin only infusion, but they sped up the drip so I got it in 30 minutes. The next infusion I asked them to slow it down to 90 minutes, which was how it was done when I had all three drugs together. Made a big difference, so I continued with 90 min. tx from that point on. When I go to D.C. for the vaccine I fly up on Sun. morning and fly home on Wed. afternoon, every three weeks. I started in July and will get the final injections in Dec., then I only go every 6 months for the booster, for a couple of years. I lived there for 10 years, which is why I chose that location, I am familiar with the area and my DS lives there, and I still have many friends there. It has been a lot of fun and I have been able to see more of my son - he is a student/fireman/ER staff, so he is BUSY all the time!
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Barbie
My taxol was cancelled due to pneumonia so I am finished chemo for now. Get scanned for radiation October 9th then possibly more chemo of a different sort. Glad to be finished taxotere, can't wait for some energy to come back. Good luck with your next week, stay strong !
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Does anyone still have swelling several weeks afterward?
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SpecialK - I am glad you have your sister in DC, that makes it nice, you have someone to visit along with your friends so that works out good. Does your son live there also? I am sure you enjoy it a lot more than if you just had to go and turn right around and come home. I sure hope the vaccine works, we certainly need one. Thanks for the info on the Taxotere also, I go tomorrow and am somewhat nervous, not bad but a little. At least if they give it to me I know what to look for this time and will stay on top of the Big D and making sure I eat. My sister is going along and we are taking our "picnic" lunch so if it takes the 3 or 4 hours like last time we can eat, plus we can talk for hours and that helps the time pass more quickly. Last time my husband went and I was not expecting chemo but the scans showed progression so the onco thought it best to start the taxotere. My appointment was at 11 so about 2:00, I sent my husband to get us some lunch because it was going to be 5:00 or after before we got out of there. So this time I am going prepared with some food. Last night I noticed my scalp kind of hurt and I kept rubbing it, my hair was starting to come out, I got enough to make a nest for a Hummingbird
, oh well I figured it would happen just did not know when. I will be checking back in I am sure in a few days to see how everyone is doing. I will try not to whine so much this time
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bcbarbie10 and PAEaglesFan - Congratulations on your last taxotere. That has to be a good feeling.
ljhm - I am so sorry to hear you have pneumonia, I sure hope you get to feeling better soon and I hope the scans show that you will not need any more chemo for quite some time. Get better real soon.
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Congrats to the ladies who are finishing!
jeanie - I don't have a sister in D.C., sorry if I caused confusion, when I typed DS I meant "dear son"! I am lucky enough to have one friend there that I met when our children were starting kindergarten (20 years ago!) at Fairchild Air Force Base in Spokane, WA. We are like sisters, so I will consider her mine! When I go up for the vaccine I get the injections on Monday, then vital signs are checked every 15 minutes for an hour. I return 48 hours later on Wed. morning for checking of the skin (vaccines are given on the thigh) and they measure the reaction, then I am free to go.
HVV - I still have it, lol! Most people see it dissipate at about the 6-8 week point.
ljhm - sorry about the pneumonia - I hope you feel better soon!
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Ljhm, sorry about the pneumonia, too. I hope they will give you another protocol in place of this one. You are a fighter, i know you can do this.
Yes, finished my last taxotere yesterday. But i still have to back for my herceptin. Still on the weekly regimen now. Three more then i go in every 3 weeks till July 2013.
PAeagles, has the swelling subsided? Thank you for your encouragements. They help me see the light more clearly. As of now, im sad to say im still down there in the dumps. Not just bec of bc, but other life issues as well.
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Ack.. no it hasn't Barbie. I was measured for a sleeve and glove on Monday and she is also putting in an order for stockings. Why pay thru the nose if my insurance will cover them and she said they will hold up better than the OTC ones? I am still in denialsville that it is LE since it seems to be in my legs more than my surgical arm, even tho it measures 10% bigger than my non-surgical arm which is also my dominant arm.
Starting Rads today. 1 of 33, but it will end my active treatment so I'm actually looking forward to it.
You think they'll let me heat up my Hot Pocket with the machine to see how it works? lol
So glad to see you've joined me on the other side of Taxotere! I'm 3 weeks, 3 days PFC and I can stand to eat food again!!! I have noticed some things still have a bitter taste to them and some things still taste flat, but it's getting better little by little everyday. Even the mild neuropathy is fading. That thrills me too because I had just gotten back into cross-stitching before the crap hit the fan with my diagnosis and neuropathy made it difficult to feel the needle some days. The taxotears made reading the charts a challenge too (not to mention chemo brain had me counting and re-counting several times and STILL making mistakes!)
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SpecialK - I did not even think about it being your dear son. I have two daughters so when I see the DS I think of my sister, so it is just me I think. I am very glad it is your son though that can be even better and to get to spend time with him and your dear friend also. I need to read more about the vaccine you are taking and see what I can learn. I don't even know the name of it so maybe you can let me know and I can research it. I went to the onco today and he went ahead and gave the the Taxotere even though I had problems last time. He cut the dose from 115 to 100, which I did not think was much but the nurse said it was quite abit. I asked him if it would be as effective and he said not quite, so I said should I try and take the same dose as last time and he said very emphatically "NO" so that was that, he did say if I got along OK he would up the dose next time. He also said if I get to feeling as bad as last time to not wait but come in the minute I start to feel that way and they will give me the fluids and nausea medications along with the decadron. I took 16 mg of decadron yesterday and I told him I thought it was to much, felt like I had 3 large McDonalds coffees so he said to cut it to 8 mg for Friday and then the next round of taxotere take the 8 mg the day before and they gave me 10 in my IV instead of 20 so that should help with the jitters. I asked how many treatments and he said 3 then we will scan and that should tell if it is doing the job, if we have to give more we will but wants to do scans to see. I thought I read on here where they can only give 4 or 6 treatments of taxotere, I forgot to ask him if that was the case or if I had misunderstood it. I am going to try and stay on top of the Big D, but he seemed to think it was the Xeloda more than the Taxotere and he cut my Xeloda to 2 am and 1 pm this next cycle. I guess it is kind of a guessing game and learning at the same time. I said so I take 3 treatments, lose my hair for that, now 6 months of treatments would make it more worthwhile, I was joking of course and he laughed about it.
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Jeanieb, my onc decreased my taxotere on my third and fourth cycle by 20%. The se's improved by 50%! However, when i asked him to go all out again for the fourth and final dose he told me he couldnt go back up once he went down already. He told me too there isnt much more to gain even if we upped the dose again. Said i was fine where i was. Maybe it's a case to case thing. Still, i stayed on the same steroid regimen as with the full dose. And since today is my second day post, im expecting the crash now anytime.
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bcbarbie10 - I was wondering when the crash would hit. The first time I did not take steroids the day before or the day after because I was going for scan results and it had spread to the omentum so he wanted to start the taxotere and asked when I wanted to do that, I said right now, I did not want to go home and wait a week so we did it then. I was given 10 mg of the decadron instead of the 20 because I told him I was pretty sure from when I took it 20 years ago with chemo it kept me up all day and night so he was supportive of cutting it back. I was given the pills to take yesterday, the IV today and pills for tomorrow so I wondered if I would be ok on Saturday or is that when the crash comes in. There is a craft show I wanted to go to on Saturday but am kind of leary about going as it is 50 miles from home, my husband will be going so he is driving but I don't like to be away from home when I get so fatigued and can hardly move. Thanks for the info on this. I am going to ask the doctor when I go back if we have to stay at this dose, I thought I read someone elses post that they increased theirs once but that may have been on something else. This befuddled mind of mine, it makes me wonder about myself sometimes
, I hope that clears up with time also.
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Jeanieb, i posted a long one but i dont know where it went!
Crash would usually start for me at the end of day 2 and persist for 7 days. The worst being days 3-5. But with the decreased dose, i felt so much better. Well, yesterday, day 1, was unusually crappy. Tylenol and Xanax took me through the muscle pains and restlessness. Today, i feel better. Ambien worked! Sure hope this will persist till the end. Same thing for you, too. Just remember to hydrate. -
Thanks bcbarbie for posting that the SEs were better with a 20% reduction. I had my first TC on 9/4 and was suppose to have #2 on 9/25. I was not feeling well so it was delayed until this coming Tuesday. My biggest SE is the extreme fatigue. They agreed to knock it down 20% to see if that would help me out with that heavy, cement filled body fatigue. Glad to hear you are feeling better and congrats on being your final one too!
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bcbarbie12 - Thanks for the info. I am not good at math but the first taxotere treatment was 115, I don't know if that is mg or what I did not ask and he cut it to 100, I did not think that was much of a cut but the nurse said it was so we shall see how I do. I don't feel to bad today, kind of fuzzy minded, more than usual, could be my sleep was interrupted last night. I was very tired and went to bed at 9:45 and was asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow but woke up at 1:45 and was awake until after 4 but then slept until 8:30 but woke up still feeling a little tired. I ate then took the 4 mg of Decadron but do not feel the effects from it like I did on Wednesday when I was so hyper so that is good. I did run a few errands this morning but am a little tired this afternoon. I still do not want to eat, and that is unusual for me, I am trying to push the fluids and will take my anti-nausea medications on a regular basis so I can keep on top of that. I am just so surprised to hear he is only doing 3 treatments then scans, I just thought most chemos were 6 months or more, I am living in the dark ages I guess. I am hoping it will be done in 3 but if not will take whatever I need.
wendy49 - I know just what you mean about the cement filled body. That was the way I felt the first time, my second treatment was yesterday and I can begin to feel the cement feeling, but since the dose was cut some maybe it will not be so bad, I will have to wait and see what the next several days are like I guess. Hope it helped you by cutting it that much. Like I said I am not good at math so I do not know how much he cut it just from 115 to 100.
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jeanie - here is a link to the trial I am doing:
http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00524277
I know my histological tissue type is A2+, so I am sorted to the GP2 peptide arm of the study but I don't know if I am getting the vaccine or the placebo. It is a single blind study so the placebo is still a drug, sargramostim, which is like Neulasta. I don't feel very well for a day or two after these injections so I do suspect that I am getting the vaccine.
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SpecialK - Thanks for sending this site. It sounds very interesting and promising.
I have a question about the taxotere. I got my second dose on Thursday, Sept. 27, Friday was not to bad, a little fatigue. Saturday when I got up, and this happened the first time also, I feel off balance, kind of weaving when I walk, heart feels like it is beating faster than normal, did need a couple hour nap in the afternoon but the faster heart rate lasted all day and just a little today. Does anyone else have that feeling after they get this. I did take the decadron pills on Wednesday, in IV Thursday and pills on Friday again, they have cut my dose of decadron to half of what they wanted to give me. Also, he is talking only 3 doses and then scans, is this typical? I thought it would take 4 to 6 doses to tell if it was working. Also, I forgot to ask if there is a limit of doses of Taxotere you can get, I know some drugs there is a limit My tumor markers had gone up from last month, but I was told it can take a few doses before they start to go down. I appreciate any feedback anyone has on this stuff. Thank you, Jeanie.
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That's exactly how I felt Jeanie. My treatment day was Tuesday and on Fridays I would feel like I was walking on the side of a hill and my eyesight was blurry and my heart beat like I ran a marathon. Isn't it nice to know what you're feeling is 'normal'?
Hang in there, it will pass in a day or so and you'll feel more like yourself. -
Hello ladies
Hope this gives a little encouragement to those still having treatment...
I am six weeks past my final Taxotere (4 of 4) and feeling great! Taste back, tears gone, skin peeling gone.
My full blood count has gone back to normal - AST and ALT liver counts too - as my onolcogist said they would and I am currently cancer-free.
Best wishes
Alice
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PAeaglesFan - Thanks for letting me know that this is normal, I was beginning to wonder, and it will be nice to get back to normal in the next day or so.
Alicethecat - It is so nice to know that your are finished and that you are cancer free, thanks for the words of encouragement.
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Jeanieb, im just one day ahead of you with taxotere and my heart is still racing as of today, even with the reduced dose. Tongue still burned and still no appetite. My legs still feel like jello, etc, etc... Hang in there.
I was actually excited to wake up today hopeful things will really be different. Oh well..
Alice, thank you for dropping by with your pep talk. Hopefully, will be joining you soon! And congratulations!!!! -
bcbarbie10 - Same here. The jello legs, off-balance, cemented down, no appetite, sore tongue, never had that before. I do not think I am as bad as the first time, the Big D has not kicked in completely yet, hopefully that will hold off. I was hoping to go to the store today but sent DH instead, then maybe I will have some energy to fix something, but nothing sounds good right now anyway. This too shall pass, right? Maybe we will feel better tomorrow. Thinking of you and sending a hug your way to brighten your day.
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Hi Ladies- I have completed my third Taxotere treatment and have only one to go next Monday - Yeah!!! will be on Herceptin for another 14 cycles, but am sure the side effects of this will be minimal. I did not have the blurry vision, but the I did have the thumping heart. This lasts a few days for me, and still rears it's ugly head for about 2 weeks if I do too much.
Just a thought about the burning tongue. I got this terribly badly 5 days after my first chemo. My tongue, rear end and nose were bleeding. The burning tongue etc turned out to be thrush. I had antifungal medication to take 1 week after chemo, but the Onc has now told me to take it 2 days after chemo for 2 weeks. This keeps it under control, but I still get the burning tongue from thrush 5 days after chemo. I have to brush my teeth with water for 2 days. If the tip of your tongue is very red it is probably thrush, so ask your Oncologist if they can prescribe something.
Alisethe cat - thrilled to hear you are doing well. Did you get neuropathy, and if so has it improved? My fingers and toes are increasingly sore, and it was painful to put my foot down for 2 days after the third treatment.
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Hi Maddie
I did get mild neuropathy and hand/foot syndrome but it has gone now apart from feeling it occasionally but I also got sepsis, high temperatures, racing heart (122 beats per minute) and small blood clots to the lungs.
Being treated with warfarin for the blood clots but all is otherwise well.
Good luck - it will end!
Alice
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Hi Alicethe cat - thanks for your reply. I am thrilled to hear the neuropathy wears off fairly quickly. I am sorry you got those horrible SE's. Blood clots can be really serious, so I am glad they picked them up quickly
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Does anyone else have the problem with the Big D throughout the whole time or just the first week after taking their Taxotere treatment. I had treatment a week ago on Thursday, September 27 and even today I am having troubles with that or terrible stomach cramps and nausea. Just wondering if anyone else had these issues and what they have done to help with it. It seems like whenever I eat, either right away or even 6-8 hours later I get the cramps. I don't know if it is the Taxotere or the Xeloda that I am taking every other week causing the issues. I am taking Zofran for the nausea and do not know if taking Imodium helps with the cramping issues that go along with the Big D. My stomach feels much better if I just don't eat but I know they want you to eat so am trying to eat small things, pieces of cheese, crackers, peanut butter, rice, yogurt, things like that. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Jeanie the 'big D' always hit me about 6 or 7 days after treatment. The first time it went on for 3 days and always just after I ate. Called the onc nurses and they told me to try taking 2 anti-gas pills along with 2 Imodium pills. It worked every time although I may have had to take a second dose once.
I always bought the generic brands at Walmart. The anti-gas pills are little green things and I think they are simethicon (?) -
My onc warned me i might get the big D beginning on the 4th day after taxotere. I was told to take imodium 3x a day. However, i got it only once. He says the degree of diarrhea is related to the degree of neutropenia.
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Thank you PAeaglesFan and bcbarbie10, I appreciate it. I will go to Walmart tomorrow and get the anti-gas pills and be sure and take the Imodium also. I appreciate the feedback, it sure helps knowing what others have done to help with this stuff. I still have my hair, it has thinned a bit but have not lost all of it, or even enough for a wig yet, do you think I will lose it as time goes on? Not that it matters but I just wondered if you lost all of your hair, just thinned a lot or enough to shave it and wear a wig or hat? I am going tomorrow to look at wigs just in case I need one. I have had 2 rounds of Taxotere and it did not start thinning until about the 20th day after the first treatment, did yours continue to come out throughout all of the treatments or just at the beginning? I know this is such a minor thing but I want to plan ahead. The onco said I would lose it but I just did not know if it would be like some where you are totally bald or just thinning a lot.
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jeanie - I had the Big D on TCH for the first 10 days of the 21 day cycle, every tx except for the last one - I got a reprieve. It was never severe enough to really medicate it, but bad enough that it made me nervous to leave the house, lol! I have seen some other posts regarding the Big D and Xeloda, so you may be getting a double whammy. On the hair thing - I had thinning until day 24 - just after tx#2, then it really came out quickly - I buzzed it at that point.
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After a total of 8 cycles oc ACT, i never really lost all of my hair, just about 40%. My onc said i would lose it with epirubicin, if not, taxotere will get it. Though i had it shaved two weeks after the very first cycle bec of the scalp tenderness and the fear of taking showers, i am just 2 weeks PFC and thinking about dyeing it every single day! It's more than an inch long, very fine and soft, grayer than before.
I noticed it would usually come off easily when i pinch a few strands the week after each chemo.
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