Are BFFs or friends letting you down when you need them most?

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  • Catbaloo
    Catbaloo Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012

    Thanks Goodie!  Also great suggestions....I am a cook and even have a key to her place!  I never thought about sneaking in and delivering dinner,restocking the fridge, cleaning the litter box, or even snagging some laundry to take home and then wash it for her. 

    Today was day 4 of radiation and she is still feeling good but she knows the tiredness can approach at any moment.  I send a silly text to her at the time of her radiation appointment that rhymes with the number of treatment she is on.  Tomorrow will be "here's a high 5 to get you through #5!" corny but I just want her to smile since I can't be there with her.

    Thanks again and lots of love, hugs, and smiles to all of you!

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2012

    Catbaloo - those are great ideas too.

    I have a wonderful friend who texted me at every chemo I had!  She still texts me often too to check in on me.  :)  You are truly a wonderful friend! 

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited May 2012

    I am done with treatment, except for my new boob sx next year. I feel much disappointment in my friends. I know it is hard to know what to say or dowhen someone you know is dx with such ahorrible disease. I didnt want for much. A occasional text would have been great. Just texting that they were thinking of me would have been great. Every single one of myfriends disappointed me. Guess they werent reallymy friends. Am making new friends while keeping the old ones at arms length. Hope like hell none of themget dx with life changing illness.



  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited May 2012

    I'm sorry fredntan. That is really the pits. I was more fortunate than you, but I still found the most support from rather surprising places. I just try to focus on that. My main gripe at this point is with my employer and coworkers, and I spend way too much time being upset about that. Since that doesn't feel good, I am going to renew my efforts at focusing on the positive. Take care.

  • anonymice
    anonymice Member Posts: 532
    edited May 2012

    I'm so sorry Fredntan....so many people can't deal with it and you can never know who can and can't until you are in the situation.  I also found no support where I expected it and great support where I did not.  But thinking back on it, many of the "surprising" supporters had been through cancer with another loved one.  Maybe it's something that many people have to learn.

    I know none of this helps except to know - it's not you.  It's them.  

    xoxox 

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited May 2012

    Catbaloo u'r doing everything right and with such care.  Take it easy on u'rself do what u can when u can and just be there for her when she might need to talk --There are places that clean houses and do it for free for cancer patients-maybe u can check into that and it would be done for her and more oranizations to help with shopping and such.

  • rockstar22
    rockstar22 Member Posts: 25
    edited June 2012

    I wish I had a friend like you. I asked a close friend to go to an appt with me twice and twice she said no because it was her day off. Another "close" friend sent me an ecard asking me to not talk to her about my cancer because she didn't want to hurt me. Ok, but how about just calling me everyonce in a while and taking me out to lunch or a walk. She did go to an appt with me, but I'm so angry with her I'm having trouble accepting that as enough. It's all confusing and I've come to a place of recognizing it's all about me right now. I need to take care of myself and choose who I should have in my life. I'm single and my family lives on the other side of the country, so I've really felt alone a lot of the time. I'm tired of being strong and confident in my single aloneness. I don't think it's normal or healthy. Time to find new friends. Nice to vent some here :)

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited June 2012

    Rockstar, I do know where you are coming from as my family, dropped off the earth and each time I tried to e mail them (I really had trouble talking about it to many folks), anyway, they would only answer "you will be fine, see you, we are going on vacation."  That answer was also given when I said I was trying to decide if I needed a mastectomy or not. 

    After a half dozen of those comments, I turned to pals.  I was lucky that I had good pals to help me.  One of them even told me that if I needed money, they were there for me.  It was at that period where, bills were showing up and I really did not know if I would be able to pay them all.  I was able but the idea that "friends" would offer with out me asking. was huge to me.

    Yes, it is sometimes the surprising ones that help. 

    Do not know where you live, I live in NJ so if you are close and if you need a ride or anything, PM me and I have a little prius that will show up on your doorstep!

  • blu
    blu Member Posts: 3
    edited June 2012

    I am new here...just trying to find my way here.  My friends are not there for me at all.  I never usually ask for help, am pretty independant, but this "Cancer" journey scared the tar outta me.

     I have always let others know I am there for them, even by sending cards, and warm socks when I know they're going thru treatment, so as not to bother them.  Emailing their spouses inquiring, and just letting them know I think of them every day.

    I have had friends be ignorant, rude, turn their backs on me when diagnosed, or before I got the nerve to spell it out, asked for help.

    One friend of 45 years, I got up the nerve to call her and tell her (I found this very hard to do at all), and she said she'd call and visit after her 4 day holiday.  I haven't heard from her in 9 months, we grew up side by side, and at any time I could, I was there for her.  She works for a hospice!!! 

    One friend is a medical know it all, I can't say one word or one sentence without 3 know it all comments shot at me, and she knows it all, I don't even after going thru surgery and treatments. 

     I'm not good at asking for help, she told me "just ask", but when I did, it didn't happen.  I felt she wanted me to beg or something.  She wanted to know how many stitches before I even got out of the hospital, but it didn't matter to me, I didn't ask... I had much bigger fish to fry and worry about.

    I am on my own, with elderly parents not close by, one ill, and a brother who cannot handle everything.

     I have always helped others with compassion and empathy through many things in life.... I don't understand why they aren't there for me.

    Well that was quite the essay for my first time here.... thanks for reading.   

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited June 2012
    Hi blu. I'm sorry your friends have let you down and that your brother cannot handle everything. The people who ended up being supportive really surprised me. Then again, those who didn't surprised me too. *smile* I have forgiven them, but I was really upset about it at first. For now, I accept whatever kindness comes my way, and I am working on feeling stronger in myself. I'm not doing great, which is why this is all I can offer, but I think if I can get ahold of myself, I will get stronger. I don't know. Also, I'm going to resume seeing a shrink on Monday. I hate to say this, but it really seems to come down to we are ultimately all on our own. When people sense our strength they will want to be around us. When they sense weakness they will either avoid us or do us harm. I dunno blu. Maybe I can do better after I see that shrink. Cry
  • LtotheK
    LtotheK Member Posts: 2,095
    edited June 2012

    Hi Blu et al,

    You are not alone.  I think some of this is timing and luck of the draw:  some of us have great experiences with friends, others, not.  For me, it's not that I couldn't do without a couple fewer friends, I have lots of wonderful ones.  And yes, some really came through in ways I never imagined.  But I had a couple that really dropped me flat out, and it was terrifying.  I think part of it is the anxiety of knowing we can never be totally sure where we stand, and this is hard to accept.  I think about my friend who stopped writing me during my treatment every day, she is still such a huge question mark for me.  I hope that will pass with time.

    For me, I think some of it was also age.  I was diagnosed quite young, and I think people really want to run and hide.  I remind them no one is safe.  I still have a friend who says over and over "I don't have any genetic predisposition, I'm sure I won't get it."  Hon, that's only a fraction of the issue.  We all want to pretend illness won't come knockin'. Us BC gals are a bit more sophisticated after our experience.  As I said to one friend, "No one gets out alive."

  • IsThisForReal
    IsThisForReal Member Posts: 384
    edited September 2012

    I totally hear you Blu.  Although I'm no longer in active treatment other than tamoxifen, I am horribly exhausted from the experience.  Now, I'm married with 2 stepkids that I drive to the school bus everyday as they are not old enough to drive.  (Rural)  Anyway, I have a friend who has recently left her husband, and when she did she and her son stayed with us for a month until her place was ready.  Although I welcomed her, I found it to be horribly exhausting.  Now, she is wanting me to 'run to town' which is 3/4 of an hour away because she needs this hauled or that hauled and her car is small.  Geez Louise...I said no last weekend and she actually got short with me, but later apologized.  This weekend she wants me to haul an eliptical trainer for her.  Well, I have today at home and if I said yes, that'd be it for 7 days.  Did I mention that driving exhausts me?  Ughhh, I know she's having a hard time and separation isn't easy, but neither is this, and feel I need to look after my own self. 

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited September 2012

    Isthisforreal.....I completely understand how driving can be exhausting.  I used to think nothing of driving 6 hours to visit family.  Funny when I got sick, they ran and hid, they were busy......I know my brother has cancer and his a lot worse than what I am dealing with but still, you would think his family would get it?  Yeap, got long time pals who dropped off the face of the earth.

    But the amazing thing, I have bonded with a new circle of pals who when asked, are open to helping!  I have learned to speak up, I live alone and it is at times down right scary.  If I need to do a mastectomy at some point, I am going to really need someone to help me.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2012

    I have some friends who have disappointed me but its nothing like the disappointment I feel in my family.  They abandoned me...plain and simple.  No support, none.  I attended every chemo treatment by myself.  I recuperated from my LX and MX by myself.  I went through radiation by myself.  I have attended every doctor appointment by myself.  I sit here now crying, by myself.

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited September 2012

    Mardibra,

    Hugs i hated those pity parties in bathroom. I had to go pull my sister out of her depression so she could help get me out of mine. I kept venting and venting to my dh. He did stick by me. Granted he isnt the best nursemaid. But he did know what to say to me. Dont think i can ever truely forget how my friends dropped me. I think they all still feel awkward around me. They seem to look at me funny sometime.

  • JulieLynn
    JulieLynn Member Posts: 144
    edited September 2012

    Mardibra, I'm sorry you're not getting any family support.  That just completely sucks.  I've been lucky enough to have great support from my family but absolutely none from the in-laws and even with the support I do have, it still hurts not having it from the other part of the family.  Please know you have friends here who care and support you!!  ((((hugs))))

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2012

    Yes,it does suck. Thank you julielynn and fredntan for the kind words. This weeks pity party is over but I'm sure there will be another one!

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited September 2012

    Well please invite me to the next pity party. I am making new friends.

  • identtwins
    identtwins Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2012

    Everyone let me down.  Mom and siblings don't think about me or check in with me because they didn't like my husband.  Now husband left me a year after diagnosis.  People at work tell me how strong I am.  Well damn it strong has gone out the window after almost 2 years of this crap.  I am very very depressed. 

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited September 2012

    Identwins-my heart goes out to you. Its so hard when friends and family let you down.

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited October 2012

    I haven't been here for awhile, but wanted to check in today and send my love to you all. It is very hard to lose people. I am so sad for anyone who has had that happen. It's so unfair and such a cruel and shocking discovery when that happens. And, we may or may never understand why.

    But keep heart: It is also wonderful to find true friends.

    Your open hearts make this world a much more beautiful place for me. Thank you. 

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited October 2012

    I had the ALL CLEAR on my first mammogram since diagnosis this past week, so of course I am elated and celebrating.  However, I find myself getting really angry because some of the "lost friends" that have paid no attention to me for one year of treatment are suddenly calling me in the past few days (3 of them) since word has gotten out.   It's like, we had no time for sick Denise, but fun Denise is back!

    I share this because the topic is "are BFFs letting you down when you need them the most".  So what I am realizing is that the true colors of the fair-weather friends are showing even more.  I cannot let them dampen my joy.  I truly need to weed them out of my life.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2012

    Congrats Denise! Me too! Clear mammo and MRI.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited October 2012

    important thing is you got a clear mamo!

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited October 2012

    I am working on making new truer friends.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited October 2012

    you are doing the right thing, hang with folks who respect you and will be there for you.  Amazing at times how many are out there

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited October 2012

    Yea!!! on the CLEAR!!!!  Me too!!!!  I got my CLEAR on Monday. Sooooo grateful.

    On another forum, this morning, someone posted this forgiveness meditation:

    http://www.wellnessgoods.com/forgiveness.asp

    It's simple and healing. It is not about allowing people to continue behaving badly, but about clearing your own heart and field. Too often, the hurts or upsets we feel get locked inside of us. It is very healthy to do what we can to feel our feelings and then safely release the toxic ones as we can.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited October 2012

    true, I like the words you posted, makes me think I need to forgive some folks in my life..some 

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2012

    I wish I could read words that would make me forgive...just wont happen for me.  sigh.

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited October 2012

    just drop them and move on. 

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