I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    Thank you, Andrew Sullivan.  I LOVE how this man writes.

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/09/why-obama-matters.html

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited September 2012

    I wonder how Sullivan was ever twit enough to support the Iraq war and Bush.

    Also thought Obama's speech was superb. A hawk inside me says that I wish he had said "The United States will not tolerate....(killings of ambassadors)..." but the human side of me realizes that the world is more complex and that such a statement sounds Cold War and childish. The United States no longer has the ability to effect change by simple statements. The realities of the world today are no longer the binary domain that the US and the Soviets both controlled through facile thinking. More Muslims than non Muslims have surely died because of Islamist extremism. The world is a very disordered place....

    The best a great president can do - as Lincoln did - is to set the moral and philosophical groundwork for progress. The part of JFK that is great understood that, and Obama feels it like no other leader out there today.

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2012

    Sunflowers.....that is so disgusting.  I wonder how many of those people have traced some of their heritage....for instance....I am 1/8 Cherokee.  I don't think of myself as less of anything or more of anything....I am just me, and they are just them.....but do they know, each and every one --- just who THEY really might be.  Methinks you may be protesting a bit much.  Better think when you are fired up with all those enthusiastic war whoops !!

    Jackie

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited September 2012

    Comic relief anyone (we have loads of them on this superb thread, but, hey, I'm feeling greedy)? Here goes:

    Tuesday was the deadline for Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) to pull out of the Missouri Senate race, but the embattled candidate announced in a press conference that he is still in it to win.

    "I have one purpose going into November, and that's defeating [Sen.] Claire McCaskill," he said.

    A number of top Republicans have pressured Akin to drop out of the race since he made the comment in August that victims of "legitimate rape" have mechanisms in their bodies that prevent them from becoming pregnant. But Akin said on Tuesday that he doesn't believe the decision to drop out is his to make. "The decision was made by the voters of the state of Missouri," he said.

    Anti-feminist icon Phyllis Schlafly, who has advocated against the Equal Rights Amendment and access to birth control, attended Akin's news conference and voiced her support. Schlafly has attended several Akin fundraisers and campaign events and joined him on Tuesday to launch a "Common Sense" bus tour across Missouri.

    Akin said he's confident Missourians will vote for him because he opposes the stimulus and the Affordable Care Act, and he supports low taxes and gun rights. "Claire McCaskill has an 'F' from the National Rifle Association," he said. "I have an 'A.' It's a clear choice."

    More here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/25/todd-akin-press-conference_n_1914065.html

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2012

    This thread disappeared again.  I wonder what's going on.

    42 days to go:

    Today's Good News for Obama: Nine words: "There are 11 different ways to win without Ohio." They were spoken by Fox News contributor and super PAC Hercules Karl Rove on Monday night, as he assured conservative viewers that Mitt Romney could become the first Republican to ever-ever-lose Ohio and win the election. Rove was just accepting reality. Most polls now have Obama's numbers in the Buckeye State running slightly ahead of his national numbers. Why? As Alec McGillis explains, the auto bailout and the state's growing economy have kept an outsize number of voters keen on Obama, while Mitt Romney can't get off a "stop the war on coal" message that affects a smaller part of the electorate.

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2012

    Athena....since I am somewhat local----about an hour west of the great city of St. Louis, Missouri and we get a great deal of our news from there.....today Newt Gingrich was  a part of Aiken's press appearance.  He needs  help and I think Newt is a great band-aid guy right now.

     Having thunderstorms, hail, and incredible pour-downs....we are probably lucky we still have power....got my fingers crossed. 

    Jackie

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  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited September 2012

    I'm going to try again. My post disappeared. Jackie, I'm 1/16th Cherokee. Maybe we are cousins!

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited September 2012

    Post of mine also disappeared - nothing worth recovering, though. :-)

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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2012
    Jackie and Cheryl:  I'm channelling Paul Revere and the RaidersKiss.
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  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2012

    I couldn't log in for over 2 hours. Must be something going on.

    Funny rum balls story-a parent gave some to a teacher at my school. He put them in the teachers' lounge to share them. Some teachers had several before realizing it wasn't just rum flavoring. This was during lunch, not at the end of the day.

    Mary 

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  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited September 2012

    Cherokee People!! Cherokee Tribe!!

    They took away our indian nation

    put us on this reservation

    took away our way of life

    the tomahawk and the bowie knife.

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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2012

    The "bow and knife", sweetie!  But I just can't stop it running through my mind tonight.

    Rum ball variation:  chocolate wafers instead of vanilla, and rolling in those little chocolate worm thingies! 

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  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited September 2012

    Thanks for the correction!

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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2012

    Sounds the same when you're listening!

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  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited September 2012

    Hi all.  Watching various politicians rave about the incompetent refs calling NFL games.  Apparently experience and ability do count in some circumstances.   Love how Joe Scarsborough was pointing out how much money the owners make and yet they won't pay the relatively low requests of the refs.

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2012

    Two posts of mine disappeared on another thread! Something funky going on with the board.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    Good Morning,

    YEAH, Ohio is definitely turning a darker shade of BLUE on all the polling maps...

    My favorite of the video I posted, is that those THUGS are on the STAFF of a sitting US Senator.  Must be great when a constituent needs help.  Blows the image he was trying to build of being a "nice guy" and the poll numbers are showing it!

    GO, ELIZABETH!!!!!

    Happy today...

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2012
    Stumping in Ohio, Romney said Obama did not raise taxes for the last 4 years! Ryan looked like he was going to faint! Bwahahahaha! Laughing Mittens just can't stop himself from stepping in it! Laughing
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2012

    Yorkie...it has been slow for me everywhere I post and now with our stormy weather I don't look for improvement for a bit though I don't think I'm actually missing any.  Alexandria...you probably also saw where this is one union Scott Brown would accept so the GB Packers would be the winner.  He too ends up with "foot in mouth" disease.  Strange karma eh' Brown...or be careful what you ask for, for everyone else.  Surprise, you get it too.

    Oops...got ahead of myself and should have started another paragraph for Alexandria. 

    I haven't read all the news reports this a.m. but MSMBC's Mr. Ed was great last night.  I probably watch far too much......this close to election I have all but abandoned many of my favorite shows so I can keep up ( don't want to have to use the word huh' too often ) some way with the on-going mix of truth and lie and distortion that is making up this election. 

    I probably ( just in case ) will mark my all Democratic ticket by going through each question/candidate beforehand.  Since it was routine for me to split......I'm used to doing that anyway. 

    I am concerned about ALL voters getting to vote.  Still have a little naive' left hanging around and wondering....why would anyone want something they have to steal.  Such stunning confidence for all those who will not be President but who still wish to rule.  I would have the thought again....be careful what you ask for --- there are debts to pay for it. 

    Jackie

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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited September 2012

    WR - thanks for posting that recipe.  Your story reminds me of when we would have Thanksgiving with my Aunt and Uncle.  My father was more of the country club martini hour kind of guy and my Uncle was a Nazarene minister.  Dad would tote over his alcohol bottles to their house and my Uncle would just give a stern look. No one told me father what to do!  

    MRI was ok....I finally figured out what that round thing was in a nightmarish dream I had when 6 years old with influenza.  A MRI machine!  Drugs are the solution (for me).  Instead of counting down each interval, I went to dream land.  Results in a couple of days.

    xxo for all of your support.

    Did I hear this correctly?  Romney and Ryan took to the campaign stage and the crowd chanted "Ryan" "Ryan" "Ryan" and then dufus corrected them, "No Romney/Ryan" "Romney/Ryan" "RomneyRyan"....then silence from the crowd. 

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  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited September 2012

    So Mitt opened his mouth about Obama and taxes and the truth fell out.  Not surprised Ryan was upset ... truth hurts sometimes.

    And Scott Walker tweets that he wants his union thug refs back.  You want untrained, underpaid and overworked because it's cheaper ... you got it.  So quit yer bitchin.

    There is American Indian heritage in hubby's family through his mother.  They are all quite proud of it ... as they should be.  I'm sure Elizabeth Warren feels the same way.  Those goons mocking Indians have no doubt offended a lot of people ... many of them blond and blue eyed.  Ignorance gets you in trouble every time ... when will they learn?

    Drizzly rain here but the storms went south of us.  Looks like blue sky is taking over now so hoping for a nice day.   

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2012

    WR...you said it so very much better than I did....thank you. 

    a little native American foot-note here.  My daughter at 1/12th. got the high cheekbones....

    Go Elizabeth.

    Jackie

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  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited September 2012

    My children got their dark brown eyes and brown hair from the Native part of their heritage (Their father's grandmother). About five years old, one of mine who knew that, looked at his elbow and asked where could he see his Scottish heritage.

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited September 2012

    Was it on his elbow?

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  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2012

    Can someone please explain the Elizabeth Warren/Native American issue to me? I am woefully ignorant.

    Mary 

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited September 2012

    I have no native American heritage that I'm aware of. I traced my family way back to their German and Dutch (original Manhattan settlers) roots. Since we've been here since the late 1500s, does that make me more American than most (other than natives, of course)?

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited September 2012

    Yram -

    Elizabeth Warren indicated her heritage on college and job applications. She has no proof other than her family's stories but neither did she get an advantage from "checking that box." Brown says you can look at her and tell she's not native American.

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  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2012

    Ah. Thanks. Yes, of course one can tell just by looking.

    Mary 

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited September 2012

    Exactly. By that same measurement my brother and sisters aren't related to me since we look nothing alike.

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  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2012

    And my twin niece and nephew must not be brother and sister because they look nothing alike. He's blond and fair, she's brunette and dark. I wonder how my sister-in-law accomplished that?

    Mary 

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