Nine year old - obsessive worrying
I'm not sure which forum to post this on. Since my dx, my 9 year old has begun worrying obsessively. It has seemed to worsen in the past few weeks. He's always been a worrier (so was I), but it's different now. He calls me ten times a day to confess to me everything he thinks he might have ever done wrong - my boss seems to think he calls just to make sure I answer and that I'm ok (BTW, my firm is very understanding about it and tells me to do what I need to to reassure him). He won't sleep in his room anymore. He sleeps right beside me. He won't spend the night away from home anymore, even with his grandparents. He is having nightmares. A couple of nights ago, he woke up crying and slept for the rest of the night totally wrapped around me. He wouldn't tell me why he was crying, but later told me that he dreamed I went to the doctor and the doctor told me I was going to die in ten days. I'm so heartbroken for him, but I'm not sure how to help him. I just keep reassuring him, and hope that when the visual reminders (hair, radiation burns, etc) are not so evident, he will get better. Any suggestions? I'm hoping someone who has dealt with this will chime in with some advice.
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Dear lanagraves,
Ahh- You have a very loving and concerned son, and we feel for you and him. While you wait for other members to chime in, you may want to check out the main breastcancer.org site which contains some tips for talking to family and children about breast cancer.
We hope for better dreams.
The Mods
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I am so sorry to hear this. How difficult for you. My girls were 7 & 8 at diagnosis. They weren't quite as sensitive, but one was very open with questions (so I could reassure her), and the other was a little young to understand the consequences.
I found it helpful to identify women that my daughters knew who had already gone through breast cancer..."see how well they are doing?" They were always amazed to hear that so-and-so was ALSO a bc survivor. Once the physical signs are gone and the meal deliveries stop and you move on, I suspect it will get better. Again, my girls can hardly believe I was bald this time last year because it seems so long ago.
If he keeps struggling, you may want to talk to a teacher or a counselor at his school; they were very helpful to us and had been through this many times before.
You are a good mom with a sensitive son. You are doing great; this is so hard on loved ones.
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I actually took my 2 oldest to a therapist when I was diagnosed. It gave them a safe place to talk about things without me. I would also then talk with her separately to work on things to help them. My kids also gave up sleeping in their own beds and slept on the floor of my room for several months. They are all back in their own rooms. My advise to you is to do whatever you need to be there for your son. I let them sleep with me, I took them to see the radiation machines, I had them shave their heads with me. I included them in as much as I thought they could handle (at the time of diagnosis, I had a 8, 5 1/2, 2 1/2, and 3 month old). There are several books that might help explain things if you need them. Mostly, I was patient with them and their changes in behavior. I would make sure to talk with the school and teachers about the situation so that they too can help.
I wish you all the best. It sucks to see them hurt. You are a good mom and they love you. All you have to do is love them back.
I have been done with my treatments for 6 months - 1 year. I feel like I have returned to being the mom I used to be. Hang in there. Hugs.
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Lana, that is so heartbreaking. I don't really have any advice but I do know that if you worry, he'll worry. Kids that young always take cues from their parent(s). Spend the days laughing and joking, watching movies, throwing popcorn, getting messy, have his friends over. Whatever you can do to take his mind of your illness. It's temporary. When your hair comes back, in all likelihood he'll forget you even HAD cancer. Even the most sensitive kids bounce back once they know their parent is o.k. Kids are tougher than we give them credit for.
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lanagraves: Im going through the exact same thing with my 10 yr old daugther. She will not go anywhere without me and will not even step foot in the car with my husband. It has been very difficult but things are getting a little better. These are somethings that I'm doing to help her out. I always talk to my children about whats going on and never leave it a secret, on days that I might absolutly feel horrible I never tell her that I don't feel good (i usually say im tired if she asks) so she doesn't think something is wrong, I take her shopping and she just got into a dance team at school so I always try to watch her at practice so she can see I'm ok. I also signed her up for counseling at school and the counselor comes twice a week to meet with her and to talk to her. Every morning she wakes up and says she doesn't feel good and I tell her that she has to go to school and cannot miss. I absolutly feel so guilty that im just taking her and she is begging me to come home, but I know I'm not helping her by taking her out everytime. When I was a child I suffered from anxiety just like she did so I know exactly what she is going through. I know things will get better and all I do is try to make her feel comfortable and show her that if Im ok then she needs to be ok. It's a tuff road but you'll make it!
Dawn
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Oh Lana - hugs - I just sent you a long rambling message on FB.
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Thanks ladies. It is so difficult to see him struggling. I too suffered from anxiety as a child. I now realize how tough it must have been for my parents to see me hurting. I'm trying to keep him distracted with fun things and tell him when the worries creep up, just think of something good. I wish I could just hug his worries away.
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My heart goes out to you. I can tell you that it's the fear of losing you that he is afraid of more than anxiety. My girls were and still are 21 and 17 when I was diagnosed. My oldest doesn't like to talk about it but has lost patches of hair and some gray hairs are present. My youngest asks 100 questions. Both have started sleeping with me and never wants to leave my side. I encourage them to go out with friend but they only want to do things with me. Both were going away to college but that all ended and will be staying home while in college during my treatment. I think you are doing everything you can by always answering his calls reassuring him and telling him you are going to be ok. In time it will get easier for him. I understand how you feel wish hugs and kisses would make the pain instantly go away. Keep doing what you are doing and in time it will get better
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I'm sorry you're going thru this. Last year when I was diagnosed, my two youngest were 7 and 9. They were quiet, worried, never left my side, too. My MO and my RO actually encouraged me to bring them to an appt with me, and I did. My MO (mother of 3, mid 30's) was positive and upbeat, told me in front of them that I was doing great and that I'd be feeling a little sick for a couple of days, then I was going to start feeling better. They were a lot more comfortable once they met her and toured the whole treatment center. It wasn't an unknown anymore...
When I had radiation, my RO did something similar. Gave them the tour, let them press the button giving me the radiation, weighed them, etc. Told them that 'your mom is doing fantastic!' Again, they were much more comfortable. There were a few times they were with me and the brought their school books, sat in the lounge, had a snack and everything was good. -
I am sorry you have to deal with this......
I have a 9 year old daughter - she'll be 10 the end of Sept. I also have a 2 year old daughter.
the 2 year old has no clue. If she did, she wouldn't step on my feet and hit me as I try to take naps on the couch- lol.
The 9 year old has become a little withdrawn, but feels free to talk about my stuff whenever she needs too. She worries a lot too and when it comes time for my mom to take the kids when I have bad nights (the dh works at night) - she stays here with me. She is always needing to make me food, or bring me things if I am lying down- she is very sweet and caring- but also clingy too. She has gone to a few chemo appts as well..... She's very involved with needing to know everything.
She's a champ though. Very sensitive, too. I have caught her crying after I put her to bed, too. that sucks.I hate that she has to witness this. I'm losing my breasts and she is getting hers at the same time.
Ugh, puberty and potty training. and chemo. yay! -
Hi, sorry I didn't read through all the posts, so I may be redundant. My son is a worrier too. He's 9 now, but 6 at the time I was going through treatment. I'm also the only parent so, he has big worries on his shoulders. All I could do at the time was to reassure him that the doctors were doing everything possible to make me better. I told him I would try my hardest to get back to my old self. He slept with me and even though everyone around me insisted he had to be in his own bed after the mastectomy, I put a bumper in the middle of the bed and let him stay. It made him feel better.
He still worries periodically, like when I went through DIEP reconstruction a month ago, he was furious that I did have the surgery. Things will get better when you have hair again, when you're not worn out by chemo, he will see you as you were before. Just constantly tell him that although it may look bad, the drugs are working to make you good again. I also brought him to a couple of radiation appointments so he could watch me on the monitor and he could see it was not all that scary and that this was also making me "better". Good luck and be well.
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Thanks Let-It-Be. I just got my third call of the day from him. I hope the consistent reassurance helps him to stop worrying so much. I just want my happy little boy back.
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It will happen in time. These poor little babes shouldn't have to have this stress. But, I believe it makes them more compassionate, loving little human beings. My best wishes all goes well.
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I have something at least very like OCD. One mark of it in children is a kind of magical thinking that links their misdeeds with a parent's health. My mother had hypochondria in spades and I worried a great deal that my doing something wrong would kill her.
I'd consult with a child psychiatrist, especially one who knows how to apply new methods and, yes, meds.
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Let me add: the phone calls also are worrying and could be an obsessive ritual that relieves anxiety.
I am not an MD, but I have a PhD and work in the mind sciences. I could be completely wrong, but I see two worrying symptoms. I do know a fine kiddie psychiatrist, and I could probably get you a good referral. PM me if you want one. -
I think I am going to make an appointment for him with his pediatrician at the very least. I think you may very well be on to something, jodycat. I think the phone calls/texts are defiinitely obsessive and the anxiety is relieved when I respond. He is not getting better, and no longer wants to go to karate or soccer practice, and doesn't want his friends to even come over to the house anymore. It's so strange that it's worse now that I am better. I don't know how to help him.
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