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  • Lesleyanne67
    Lesleyanne67 Member Posts: 225
    edited August 2012

    How exciting Helen.



    I have been posting in the NOLA Sept thread the ladies there are great and will answer DIEP questions etc even if you are not going to NOLA.



    Unfortunately my left hip drain came out on it's own and my surgeon likes them in a minimum of 3 weeks avg is 4-6 for hips - not sure about tummy flaps but I had hip flaps.



    Nice women who had hip flaps that lost drains all had to have needle aspirations once a week for 4 weeks when this happened to them. Good news is I am pretty numb in that area so they said it does not hurt. Have to use a great deal of compression in an uncomfortable girdle contraption BUT still TOTALLY worth all the inconvenience! Love my new shape already!



    Good luck with the launch Amy!



    Lesley

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2012

    Lesley so good that you are happy with your new shape. It really means a lot. We can put up with a lot of discomfort if there is a reward at the end. Hope you don't have too many problems with that drain coming out.

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited August 2012

    Hi all,

    Just checking in. Helen...happy dance for that littl'darning on it's way! I hope all goes well and mom and baby stay healthy and happy.

    I got a p.m. from Rocky re: my truncal edema -hot flared breast. Her dr. put her on the same regiment I was on (trental & high dose Vit. C). It brought back the memories of pain, discomfort and frustration when everyone else was improving on the boards. I'm happy she contacted me and I hope I gave her good advise. I'm just so sorry she is going through it. It makes me sad and angry that this is a disease that keep's on giving.

    Here we are three years out and there are a couple of you facing surgery. That frankly scares me. I know nothing about DIEP. I just wish you luck.

    Amy-good luck on your Friday launch. You know Friday is a Blue Moon. I hope that is a lucky celestial occurrence for you.

    I'm been working my behind off in my garden and yard this week. I'm having the girls over tomorrow night and hosting a work party for my dh on Friday night. I'm exhausted but my yard looks good even though we haven't had rain during all of August and it's been hot.

    Amy-omt did you get to see Mt. Rainier clearly while in the NW? I forgot to ask. Isn't is totally awesome!

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited August 2012

    Betsy - yes, the weather was perfect. And Rainier was out in all its glory. Amazing.  IF I ever have time, I will try to learn how to post some pictures on here.

    So the client moved the web launch to next Thurs. That buys us some (much needed) additional time. But it gives me a whole 'nother week to work like mad.  It is now 11:34 PM and the client and I are emailing back and forth RIGHT NOW. Yeesh.

    Yes, surgery after all these years IS a hard thing to face. My stuff feels like a long time ago.  I am glad that we are here to send love and support while Judy and Helen go throug  this stuff. I'm sure there are other threads where women can offer more concrete help/advice. But NOBODY knows and loves you like the April 09 gals do.  You know what they say about old friends...we're like gold, right?
     

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2012

    Gold is right!!!  Baby girl, Samantha, born at 9:20 pm. The new mom and dad are doing well too. 

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited August 2012

    Congratulations Helen!!! So happy to read your news and what a lovely name! Wishing you all so much happiness!

    Lesley, sorry about your drains, hope you are ok. So pleased to hear that you love your new shape.

    Betsy, good to hear from you, sounds like you are keeping busy! Enjoy all your company.

    Amy, I am extending my good wishes now till next Thursday and I hope that all goes well. Of course you have my good wishes indefinitely Wink.

    I am definitely worried about surgery, but knowing that I can come here is a true comfort. Pure Gold!

    Geri, hope you are ok. Titan, it has been a while since you have come by.

    Sending you all hugs, Judy x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited August 2012

    Welcome Samantha! Sounds like a long 2 days of labor, but it is all over now. A little girl for you to love. I am so happy for you, Helen. ENJOY her!

  • Lesleyanne67
    Lesleyanne67 Member Posts: 225
    edited August 2012

    Congratulations Helen!!!!!!!



    Judy, if you are doing the flaps where they do not move muscle I can personally tell you that I was able to lift my arms and wash my own hair faster than when I did the silicone implants and if any of you tried implants and they failed this has hurt far LESS than the two infected silicone implants I had.



    It is still surgery so you will be a little fuzzy and sore, but compared to the other things we have been through it is worth it if you are committed to having "breasts" again. I say it that way because I have a few breast cancer survivor friends who have opted for no reconstruction and I feel it is completely an individual choice. I am a peer navigator through the hospitals here and just because I want to put myself through all of this I am very aware it is not the choice for everyone and I completely respect each person's position of what is right for them. We all have the right to feel good in our own skin after what we have been through, whatever that translates to.



    Have a great day and weekend ladies!



    Lesley

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited August 2012

    Lesley, thanks so much! The plan is for me to have the DIEP from the abdomen, not using the muscle. My CT showed that the blood vessels were in good enough shape to use. I am actually more concerned about the effect of the abdominal side of things. I am not looking forward to the discomfort both below and above, but at the moment, I feel committed to doing this, so I hope that it will be ok. I really appreciate all that you are writing about it. How are you feeling?

    Helen, how is Samantha doing? Hope mother is feeling good.

    Wishing you all a fantastic long weekend...how I miss those long weekends in the US!

    Sending hugs to you all, Judy x

  • Lesleyanne67
    Lesleyanne67 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2012

    I feel great Judy. Not ready to run around quite yet still sore but mobile and happy! One drain came out early but I think I will escape needle aspiration I will know more when I see the local plastic surgeon monitoring me on Tues. That puts me at 3 weeks.



    I wish I had the tummy procedure I am so jealous of all the bikini stories wink, wink ; )



    I did a Zometa, a biphos ( apple wants to auto correct this grrr) like Boniva for osteoporosis, clinical trial for 3 years and had to have a bone scan today - required at the end of the study. Had a CT scan on my entire mid-section for my flap surgery so I know I was clear but sheesh the bond scan waiting was nerve wracking ! I guess they did not want me stressed all weekend so they called and I am all clear.



    Everyone is different and my MO does not routinely scan even though I would prefer the annual all clear....or early catch if anything ever came up.



    So as I say the "gift" of all my failed recon was at my 3 yr anniversary of cancer free I got a CT and bone scan and I am ALL CLEAR. Love my stage 3a beating the statistics so far!!!



    Have A great weekend ladies! I will touch base after my 3 week check : )



    Lesley

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited September 2012

    Hi all,

    Sorry I haven't posted (truly haven't even had time even to read these last two weeks), but you know I love you all anyway! Cool

    The orientation for the new Director seems to be going well, except we had a very big problem in the office yesterday, and I'm hoping it won't scare her off.  Normally I would have been emoting about what was happening, but with her there, I was smiling and saying, "oh, this will all work out fine" - gotta keep this gal!

    Kevin and I are basically over after 12 years - more my decision than his, based on not getting what I need from this relationship.  Tell you the truth, he has been different since the whole bc thing, so perhaps his way of seperating from me was to behave poorly.  Either way, I will make the best of it.  I am very independent, but I would rather have someone who cares about me to face the future.  Who nows, maybe it will still happen!

    Helen - so thrilled to hear about Samantha - congratulations Grandma (is that what they call you?). When is your reconstuction scheduled for?

    Lesley - so glad your reconstruction seems to be going well, and that you are happy!  I had saline implants, and although there are times when I think I would have been happier with the DIEP, at my age (almost 64), I was more concerned that I had something to hang my clothes on rather than the esthetics of the boobs.  The original ones, with age, didn't look so hot anyway - at least with the implants I'm not droopy!  LOL

    Amy - you must be so excited, and I'm sure a bit nervous, about your website - good luck...you seem to be a very tenacious woman, so I'm sure this will be a success.

    Judy - your surgery will be here before you know it, and I admire you so for making the decision, despite the temporary discomfort - when it's over and you've recovered, be sure to treat yourself to a shopping trip to deck out the new breasts!

    Betsy - I am sure you are a wealth of information to others going through lymphedema - not anything you want to be an expert on, but so helpful to others.  Glad you seem to be feeling better.

    Titan - are you just busy?  Miss you here - brings me to missing someone, and yes, I think we all feel Lena's spirit in this room almost a year later.  Let's get those random acts of kindness going for our Lena!

    I am looking forward to the long weekend (you don't get any long weekends in Isreal Judy?).

    I will try to be better at keeping up.

    Love to all my Good as Gold Friends!

    Geri 

  • Lesleyanne67
    Lesleyanne67 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2012

    Geri



    Big hugs on the end of your relationship. 64 sheesh you have plenty of time to still find a companion and my guess is that for all of us after BC we will be selective in a different way if we cross that path.



    I ended an 11 year marriage about 1-2 years before my diagnosis. My tumor was pretty large so I am certain I probably already had cancer while married. No family history so no mammogram before 40. As for regular self-exams....well it is easy to be distracted when you are not in a healthy, happy relationship.



    I have always said it really is better to be alone than be in a relation ship and be lonely. This is especially true for us women who are natural caretakers. I am sure you have often put your choices and needs/wants on the back burner.



    So the silver lining is you no longer have to do this AND sometimes when you are just living your life and pursuing your dreams things just happen.



    I will be thinking of you as you start this new chapter. It may be rough at first, but remember you are a tough cookie!!!!!



    Have a great weekend!



    Lesley

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited September 2012

    Lesley, thanks so much for the encouragement, it is really helpful for me. Good to see the words "All Clear!".

    Geri, really good to hear from you. Sorry to hear about you and Kevin, I hope you are ok. I am sure that you are independent and will make the best of it, but if you ever need somewhere to let off steam, we are always here. Glad that the orientation is going well. We don't really have long weekends, to speak of. We have Jewish Holidays, which are National Holidays, but they are not quite the same.

    Helen, hope all are well and enjoying Samantha!

    I am feeling a bit sad and lonely today. I was due to go away today overnight with work and my husband was due to fly to the UK tomorrow to see his mother who is very sick. However, she deteriorated faster than expected so he left early this morning. Now, he has gone and is very sad and I am here and all alone in the office and I am very sad! I don't think I will stay the full day today, I want to get home to the kids as early as I can. This is hard for them, quite traumatic actually, so we just need to get through it together and keep the lines of communication as open as we can.

    Hope you are all ok, (sorry for not mentioning everyone individually).

    Sending you all hugs, enjoy your long weekend, Judy x

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited September 2012

    Leslie, thanks for the encouraging words.  I am sure that things will sort themselves out - just an adjustment for me.

    Judy - I'm very sorry to hear that your mother-in-law has taken a turn for the worse.  You are always my cheerleader, so let me be yours, and tell you that you are a kind and gentle person, and your children and husband are so fortunate to have your sensitivity as you all face the loss of a woman who obviously means so much to everyone.  I can't take away the sad feelings, but as you always say, we are all here for you.

    Geri

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited September 2012

    Geri, thanks so much for your kind words, it means a lot to me.

    Hope you are all having a good day! Hugs, Judy x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited September 2012

    Judy - It is with much sadness that I read your last post.  The main thing I have learned about you in the last three years since we've 'met,' it is the love of and commitment to family that is so important and central to you.  So this can only be a difficult and painful time, especially as you are separated by distance.  I also can see that it is challenging for your children both in regard to their grandmother, but also because they connect it to you as well.  I think it might be important to remind them that while many diseases share the same umbrella name of 'cancer,' they are actually many different diseases and what happens in one situation is NOT connected to another.  

    Your warmth and caring side has shone through SO CLEARLY in these past years. It is sort of amazing how much we can see one another's hearts through this online experience. When Geri characterized you as 'kind and gentle' in her post above, those are the EXACT same words I would have chosen.  Love will get you through this, you know that. But it is never easy. Sending a hug across the WHOLE WORLD to get to you today.

    Geri - again, same as i wrote above, you will get through this, but it is not easy. 12 years is a long time to share with someone, married or not.  There is a country song out now that I hear sometimes  - I just looked it up - it is called A Little Bit Stronger, by Sara Evans. I like it because the chorus says Even on my weakest days, I get a little bit stronger.  (I'm sure you can find it on youtube if you want to hear it.)  I think about the cancer journey when I hear it, and how each day, whether it feels like it or not, I am healing a tiny bit, getting a tiny bit stronger.  And for you, the same thing is true.  I hope your growing stronger/healing process from this is as easy as it CAN be.

    Two close friends of mine are facing imminent back surgery for totally different reasons. Both should be fine, but it is still scary.  It reminds me that we all face physical challenges as we get older, somthing that never hit home to me when I was strong/healthy 51 year old with not a care in the world. Now it seems like stuff is all around me. I am much more compassionate now than before all this. That is one good change. I will support them the best I can.

    Didn't work Sat or Sun AT ALL. GOOD FOR ME! Feel refreshed and ready to go into tomorrow. This will be THE WEEK - every day crazy until we launch on Thurs. I appreciate all the support from you ladies. I will let you know how it goes.

    Love to everyone - and you, too Lesley, who I don't think I ever personally said 'hi' to. I'm glad you're back with us.

    Amy 

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited September 2012

    Amy, what a beautiful post, you always seem to make so much sense.

    Well, unfortunately, my mother in law passed away yesterday afternoon. We are all very sad, but she is no longer suffering, which is definitely a consolation.

    I will come by again soon,

    Sending extra hugs, Judy xxx

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited September 2012

    Judy, so sorry for your loss. May her memory always be a blessing.



    Amy, hope all goes well with the website. I'm sure you have done a wonderful job on it.



    Geri, so sorry you are going through this major life change. You and I are the same age. Sadly, I have given up on finding a partner - I just have not had any luck in that department. I hope you do better if that is what you want. But better to be alone than be in a bad relationship.



    Babies and moms and dads are all doing well.



    Lesley, Titan, Betsy - hope all is well.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited September 2012

    Judy I am so sorry. Did your husband get there before she passed? Will your family be travelling for the funeral or will it be held in Israel?  Sending warm hugs to you and your family.

  • Lesleyanne67
    Lesleyanne67 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2012

    Judy, so sorry for your loss. You have said so many nice supportive things to me 3 yes ago in the midst of chemo and recently so I only wish I was there to give you a big hug and let you cry or share stories of happier times, or both. I KNOW you will be taking care of your family in this difficult time but don't forget to take care of you!



    Amy I thank you for your kind words and feel the same about all of you! You also were there for me. I just regret my absence the last 18 months in my "race for new breasts". Between work and surgeries and trying to live I lost touch, but my recent reconnection has been so great.



    This site has supported me through treatment and honestly I would not have known about my recent reconstruction option without the wonderful ladies here.



    I can't say enough about this place and encourage ladies newly diagnosed to come here. The support here, especially early on, is so valuable. I am very active in my community and Junior League so I have become the local BC "expert/mentor/go to resource" not that I really wanted that : ). I did go through the peer navigator training through Univ of California - Davis which is a designated cancer facility



    Have a great week ladies! See the

    local plastic surgeon today she is

    a gem. Cross your fingers I don't need any aspirations on the left side where my drain worked itself out early AND I can get this drain pulled on the right. So hard to find good clothing to camouflage drains in summer clothing....



    Lesley

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited September 2012

    Lesley, no regrets. We are just happy that you have re-joined us and despite the setbacks, overall you are doing well.  I think it's wonderful that you are helping others as well. 

    Well, a very rainy day in Toronto today. Starting the end of the week is the Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF). My friend and I are going to see 5 films which is considered just a little. I know of people who will go to 20 - 25 films over the 10 days and who even take their holiday time to coincide. Now that I am a retired person, I can do what I want.  

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited September 2012

    Hi all, thanks for your wishes and kind words.

    The funeral was held in London on Wednesday and I flew there for the day. I didn't book the ticket till Tues night till we had the time for the funeral confirmed. I left the kids here. It was definitely the right decision for me to be there with my husband. It was very sad.

    I landed back here early Thursday morning and went to work. I was very tired by the end of Thursday, but slept well last night. My husband if flying back here today to complete the 7 days of "shiva" (mourning) here at home. One of his brothers is coming back with him.

    We have been inundated with food and help from friends and neighbours. I am overwhelmed. And also by all of you and your continual support and kindness.

    Wishing you all a good weekend, hugs as always, Judy x

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited September 2012

    Judy, I am so sorry that you and your family have had such a loss. It's always difficult to lose a mother regardless of how old you are. I'm glad you were able to go to London for the funeral. Hopefully your husband and you will take comfort from the friends and family during shiva. You will always have your memories. 

  • Lesleyanne67
    Lesleyanne67 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2012

    Judy



    Thinking of you in this difficult time. Hope your family pulls close and can enjoy the weekend despite the circumstances! Hugs

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited September 2012

    Judy,



    I just signed on and read of your mother-in-laws passing. As are we all who" know" you here, I send you love, support and the wish that your memories are a comfort as you all mourn her loss. As you said, she is no longer suffering. I am sending a message in my heart to our Lena, to watch out for your much loved m-i-l.



    I have not had good news about my heart today. I have been feeling short of breath with some chest pressure over the past few weeks. I had a stress echocardiogram today and was told I have a "very sick heart". Left ventricle is showing damage and I may have a blocked artery. Angiogram on Monday with possible stent placement. If that is not possible, I may be facing open heart surgery. They are not sure what caused this, but one of the factors may be the Adriamycin and Herceptin. I'm holding it together right now, but barely. Wish me luck!



    I'm sending you all good thoughts!



    Geri

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited September 2012

    Geri, that is indeed upsetting news. You certainly have enough to deal with already. I'm so sorry. But I am also hoping that this is one of those situations where the angiogram and stent do the trick. Keeping my fingers crossed for you. Please keep us posted here and let us know how we can help.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited September 2012

    Judy  - I can't believe you flew to London for the day. Did I read that right? It sounds exhausting. But I am glad you were there - I'm sure you and your husband were a great comfort to one another. I am glad you are back home though, with lots of love & support around you. I hope it is healing and comforting.

    Geri - What a bolt from the blue! Damn!  My dad (84) had an angiogram a few months ago - i went to NY and was there with him.  They live in Westchester County and he had it done at Columbia Pres (down by the GW Bridge).  His cardiologist is an Indian guy, whose brother is the cardiac surgeon who does the procedure. He does it both at Columbia Pres and White Plains Hospital. They work as a team and my dad was very pleased with them.

    The procedure for the angiogram was very simple. He ended up NOT to need the stent, and was out of there by 2pm. (We got there around 8am.) If he had needed the stent, they would have kept him overnight afterwards. As it was, he just had to be a bit careful with that little spot on the leg where they go in. But it was only for the first day or so afterwards.

    It has been long enough ago that I sort of forget, but why did you get ATH instead of TCH? it seems the oncs are steering away more from the Adria and towards the TCH cocktail for us Her2+ women. Was there a reason you had the Adria? Your nodes were all clear, right? I know that what I have read, the Adria PLUS Herceptin can have an impact on that left ventricle (heart damage). That's why they do the echos/mugas quarterly. But you have been done for YEARS now. Did this just happen, even this far out from having the drugs?  Sorry for so many questions, but as a Herceptin gal, I am concerned about this. It feels to me that we are moving further away from our April 09 treatment, but if something like this can crop up 3 years later.....well then it feels like it will never be over.

    I know this is very sudden and upsetting for you. But TRY to take it a step at a time - Monday, it is possible they can do the stent and it will solve the problem. I would really try not to look ahead to the poss of open heart surgery, as it hopefully will not be in your future.  They will know more after the angiogram  - and please come by here and share that with us as soon as you are able. 

    My dad's angiogram experience was recent, and very smooth and positive, and he is so much older than you. So I am optimistic that it will be easy for you as well.  Instead of a stent (which they decided wasn't needed), they are treating with meds (a diuretic and something else I forget) and he definitely is less short of breath and feeling a lot better.

    And so I am sending loving, healing, comforting thoughts to you up in NY tonight. Please stay in touch and let us know how you are doing.

    I feel kind of funny mentioning this but...at long last my website launched on Thursday afternoon. It went well, although there is more work than before now that it is up. I am working 8am-10pm or longer trying to stay on top of everything. Not at all how i like my life to be, but it will be better by next weekend when a few key things are behind me.  Client was thrilled and I guess we did pull it off, but it sure was/is exhausting.  But compared to  what you have been dealing with, Judy and Geri, this is a little bump in the road and I know that.  (PS the assistant I hired is working out well, so that will start to make things easier as she learns more and can be more helpful).

    Love to every one of us as we walk this journey.  Geri please know we are all with you.

    Amy 

  • Lesleyanne67
    Lesleyanne67 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2012

    Geri



    Huge hugs. Sorry to hear of this recent challenge with your heart Please keep us posted!



    Lesley

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited September 2012

    Hi all, firstly, let me thank you all for all your love and support. We are doing ok, surrounded by people which is very special for us.

    Amy, glad it all went well and that you are busy, but please take care of yourself. Hope the success continues!

    Geri, so sorry to read that you have to deal with this heart issue now. Try and take it stage by stage (we all know how hard that is). We are all here for you, sending you big hugs. Please keep us posted.

    I am sorry to be so short today, am very busy at work and want to get out early if I can.

    Hugs to you all, have a good day, Judy x

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited September 2012

    Hi All,

    Thanks for the good wishes and prayers - I am counting on them.  Just finishing packing a bag in case they do a stent, in which case I stay overnight.  That would be the best case scenario  If the stent is not possible, I may be looking at open heart surgery to increase the blood flow.

    I spoke to my oncologist today (not the original one, who, if you remember I did not feel a good relationship with, although I stayed with him until chemo was done), and she confirmed that Adriamycin combined with Herceptin, can cause damage to the left ventricle even years after treatment.  Of course, it is a small percentage of people, but it looks like I may be one of the unlucky ones.

    Amy, the breast surgeon, the oncologist who treated me and a 2nd opinion oncologist, all recommended ACT and H.  I had the feeling it had to do with my age (60 at the time) and the ER and PR+ plus grade 3.  I can't be certain why they all agreed on this regime, but you know, you pick what seems to give you the best shot at beating the cancer, and then hope the side effects don't end up being worse.  Look at Robin Roberts - another unlucky one.

    I am trying just to face one thing at a time.  It is strange not to have Kevin here, but I haven't spoken to him in a week and haven't seen him in a month, so I don't want to call him and say "hey, guess what - I have heart failure now".  So, fortunately, I have wonderful brothers and sister-in-laws and my daughter who lives nearby and my older daughter who is not geographically close, but is a support, my friends and my work people who are wonderful, and of course all of you who have been there through the darkest days.  I am very lucky and very grateful.

    I don't know when I'll be able to get back on, but as soon as I can I will let you know how things turn out.

    Till then,

    Geri 

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