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  • jeanl151
    jeanl151 Member Posts: 146
    edited August 2012

    Hi, I need some advice for a friend.  I was diagnosed with bc in 2009 and am fine now. I have shared with her my experiences but there are some things I don't know.

       She was diagnosed last week after 2 biopsies. One came back cancerous. Her doctor has found 5 more lumps and biopsied them.  He now found one he cant get to with a needle and wants to do a more intense biopsy tomorrow.  Has anyone else had so many biopsies?   She was also told today she is stage 4.  I thought they wouldn't know that unless lymph nodes were tested.  anyone have this experience or hear of such procedures?

      thanks, Jean

  • Scorchy
    Scorchy Member Posts: 240
    edited August 2012

    Hi Ladies,

    I had my PET/CT scan today and, in the afternoon, hadthe good fortune to meet with my breast surgeon to learn the results.  The good news?  I'm no longer Stage II.

    The bad news?  I'm now Stage IV.

    It seems that a metastasis was located in the L5 vertebrae and sacrum.  Very early and small, but it's there.

    The treatment plan should be the same and the BS believes that the Tamoxifen, which I am taking now, will also eradicate the metastasis.  So I still have >80% recovery.  However, the news is such a punch in the throat.  So overwhelming.

    I"m just speechless. So overwhelmingly speechless.  Even with this I am better off than some, but to lay my head on the pillow tonight with this in my head.  It's so much to take in.

    Love to all,
    Scorchy

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited August 2012

    Scorchy, I'm so sorry you got this news.  I hate this damn disease.

  • mcook301
    mcook301 Member Posts: 509
    edited August 2012

    Hi ladies



    My last post before I head to bed and then surgery tomorrow. this is unless one of you want to come kidnap me for a few days and take me to some fun relaxing place:) but I suppose I better get this shit out of my body!



    Not to scare anyone who has not has the dye inserted into the nipple area but holy shit did that smart today! I soldier the fuck up as my friend described it. But man I wanted to kick that hot radalogist that gave me the shots. I hope never to do that ever again! But I survived and did not cry but I def cuss a lot during!



    Well ladies I will see and talk to you on the other side of surgery! lot of hugs and huge thanks for holding my hand:)



    Hope all of you have a good day tomorrow!



    Michelle

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited August 2012

    Michelle will be praying for you tomorrow.



    Scorchy, that is so not fair! I hate this disease. Sucks balls. ((((((Hugs))))) hoping for the best outcome for you. Much love.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Juneau - hope that port site and your chrons both ease up on you!

    Firestorm - you rock that do! You are inspiring me as I mentally prep for some upcoming hair loss.

    Websister - glad you were able to enjoy some nice time with friends. Good luck with that disability stuff. I owe aetna a call and am avoiding it like the plague!

    Tpoloychron - good luck with your hair. Remember - your hair doesn't define you. How you are handling this BC crap with strength is what defines you!

    Mrskimber - I think others have given you sound advice. I had the same experience as you. As soon as I got biopsies I started feeling all kinds of pain everywhere - including in my non-cancerous side. I think some of it is our minds - but there could for sure be something legitimate going on there. So ask your doc. We are our own best advocates - and have to advocate hard for ourselves! Good luck!

    Aruba - glad you got some helpful information to help you think this all through.

    Sillymama - thank you SO much for your wise and experienced words. It is so refreshing to know there will be a day when BC isn't the first thing that enters your mind every morning when you wake up.

    Tazzy - any drain updates to report? Fingers crossed for you!

    Cindyl - yeah! Happy dance!

    Teeballmom - congrats on last AC!

    CharlotteNY - 41 years - that is fantastic!

    Jeanl151 - I'm no expert, as I only know my case, but my initial thoughts are: 1) sounds like they'd be doing a mastectomy of some sort based on the known tumors, so why would they need to biopsy even further. Just get in there and do the mastectomy and take out what needs removing while in there, no?; 2) my BS made it sound like staging is kind of hokey, so I'm not sure what is considered normal, but I do think nodal involvement is typically a factor in staging. And I don't think you can get a stage IV diagnosis without a PET scan to check for mets elsewhere in the body. But again - I am not an expert at all here. Sounds like perhaps your friend needs a second opinion?

    Scorchy - sending you some major virtual hugs. If you have some happy pills on hand - tonight is the time to use them! Not sure where you're being treated, but my roommate after my BMX at MSKCC clearly was there for BC mets in the spine. I swear - the entire spine board came to visit her in our room after they had discussed her case that morning, and they seemed wonderful. If you're happy where you are, great. If not - maybe give MSKCC a call. I'm pretty sure they have a policy that someone in the dept - perhaps not the particular one you want - will see you for a consult within 2 weeks of your call. Hope you get some rest tonight!

    Mcook - sending you giant pre-surgery hugs. You can do this!!!

    As for me - I am resigned to a new nanny search and kind of feeling like it will provide a breath of fresh air. I had my first PT today for cording and actually really enjoyed it. Get massaged and guided exercise. Kinda like some nice me time in an odd way. And when I made my daily call to my MOs office to check the schedule I actually got someone who dug in for me and seems to be on the case. Maybe by tomorrow my muga will be set, as will by first treatment date. Big hugs to you all. Sleep well lovely ladies!
  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited August 2012

    Scorchy... I am so sorry to hear your crappy news.    Sending you hugs and hugs and positive vibes honey... focus on that 80% eh?   

    Mcook...holding your hand for tomorrow and yes that SNB dye hurts like nothing I have felt before and yes the cussing that came out of me when I had it would've made a sailor blush.  I am sure the techs have heard it all before.

    So I get my drains out tomorrow, BS was running an hour late so he said he couldn't do them... damn him.   But the news he gave me made up for it - my surgeon got all the cancer - took 10 nodes, 3 of which were positive but he got them.... so officially today I am NED.  I still have to have rads (which I knew anyway). 

    My face is aching with the smiling me and DH have been doing. Not out the woods yet cos of those bloody positive nodes... but as the surgeon said to me "As far as I am concerned, as of today you do not have cancer".

    So chemo did a real number on the tumour - shrank it from 8+cm to 1.5cm so if those sneaky bugger cancer cells
    did creep out, the chemo would've zapped them too - and I believe it did, I have to.

    Good luck with the nanny hunt ramols.

    Scorchy... I wish you could've had the same kind of news... I am so sorry hon.

  • mrskimber47
    mrskimber47 Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2012

    Everyone-

    Thanks so much for your support. I too think we know our bodies and should go with our gut. My guts tells me, this suckssssssssssssssssssss, but I am going to ask for the MRI. Cindy, what wonderful news for you. I am celebrating (clapping hands!) Have a great evening everyone and thanks again. I will visit this thread often.  

  • Soyaandpepper
    Soyaandpepper Member Posts: 368
    edited August 2012

    Scorchy-So sorry about the change to stage IV, cannot imagine what you're feeling. This Breast Cancer shit really sucks! We're here to support you!

    mcook301-Good to know you got through the dye injection and will be thinking of you tomorrow, hope to hear from you soon on the other side!

    Tazzy-Yayyy for the drain removal tomorrow and you will see how different you feel after they remove them. So glad for your tumor to shrank, and yes you've got to believe that the chemo worked on every cancer cell. The mind is a powerful thing!

    ramols-Sorry to hear about your babysitter, hope you get another one and things work out! 

    To all the ladies who's in the BGC, praying for no SEs for you and welcome to all the new comers since I haven't been on too much to welcome each and everyone of you.

    So I feel stronger everyday, I was at the gym tonight and it feels so good to be doing the weights again, hope that soon I'll be able to back to my pre cancer self.

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited August 2012

    Yeah that dye injection is not fun... to top it off they didn't warn me I'd be being blue.  So I finally quit vomiting after I woke up from surgery and they told me I could go home.  Did I need to use the rest room before I dressed?  Well yeah.  OMG what in the heck have they done to me?

    Hope surgery/chemo/rads goes well for those who are dealing with that.  Die Cancer Cells Die!

  • juneaubugg
    juneaubugg Member Posts: 951
    edited August 2012

    Scorchy; FUCK!!! FUCK!!! FUCK!!! (((HUG)))



    Mcook... More HUGS.



    I basically quit my job today. Told them (human resources) I needed long term disability between the Crohns and chemo, and if they needed to replace me I understood. I will go see my boss next will and get my personal stuff and talk to him. The decision to stop struggling with trying to go back was made easier by the knowledge that I already have another job (offer letter signed and returned) with a start date on November 5th.



    Going to try to sleep now. PT early tomorrow for my cording, which is getting better btw.

  • juneaubugg
    juneaubugg Member Posts: 951
    edited August 2012

    Ps. Forgot who asked but I had additional biopsies. A total of two needle MRI biopsies, and two core biopsies. All were non cancerous.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Went searching for a quote this morning that would help me make the right start on my day (a challenge when my 2-year old started our day for us at 5:30am!!!). Stopped when I saw this one:

    "Happiness is not something you postpone for the future; it is something you design for the present." ~Jim Rohn

    Some days BC makes it hard to get happy and enjoy the day for what it is - another day here with our family and friends. Time to take control of my days and make them what I want them to be - despite the obstacles that get thrown at me. Hope you can all make some happiness today somewhere along the way. 

  • Scorchy
    Scorchy Member Posts: 240
    edited August 2012

    Ramols,

    Well put!

    All, thanks for the support as well as the combined disappointment.  I really hate cancer and sorry that any of us have to go through this.

    Hope everyone has a good day today.

    Susan

  • websister
    websister Member Posts: 1,092
    edited August 2012

    Ramols - love the quote, thanks for sharing. Glad you seem to be making inroads on the chemo schedule and muga



    Scorchy - not the news any of us ever want to hear, so sorry you received it, now for the chemo to do it's job and KCA! Sending positive thoughts and prayers that you will be able to give us an update after your treatment like Tazzy's - NED



    Firestorm - you look great! I'm sure the chemo nurses have seen us arrive with all sorts of things to get us through our treatments, I like Bud for a name. How was the port insertion?



    juneaubug - so glad you were able to make your work decision and will be able to rest and heal without the job stress to factor in. You mentioned your port yesterday. Mine also is very prominent and still not very comfortable, worked well for the chemo but I hope it gets more comfortable as time goes on, I'm looking at having it for a year



    Cindyl - good news!



    Tazzy - woo hoo! Drains coming out and good news :)



    McCook - you also are in my thoughts and prayers today as you have your surgery



    mrskimber47 - welcome



    jeanl151 - I agree with others that unless scans have been done to show distant metastasis a stage IV diagnosis can't be made. He may suspect lymph node involvement but that still doesn't make it stage IV, many of us have had positive lymph nodes on this thread.



    Silly mama - thank you! Your taking the time to post helps so much



    Today is my Look Good, Feel Good class, I'm looking forward to it.



    Have a good day everyone

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited August 2012

    Scorchy, That sucks big time. Juneau said it all.

    Juneau, bummer that your crohns is acting up. My cousin has it and I know she gets miserable with it.   Good too though about the job as you definitely need the break and being that you have the new job lined up that's a definite plus!

     Ramols That's the attitude!  I think that this line from my preacher pertains to all humans in general despite any religious beliefs one may or may not have- That if every day you look for opportunities to be a blessing to someone else, regardless of how slight it may seem, you'll always feel better yourself.   Personally I do find that if I can make someone elses day a little better,even if its thru something as small as a compliment , it makes me not only feel better to see them smile, but it takes my mind off of my own issues.  I've heard some of your stories about the people you were next to in the BCG  where just something they said made such a big difference in how you felt that day and vice versa. So Ramols I agree with you 100% that happiness is key to getting thru this BC crap and if we can put aside the why me long enough to look for those things that make us happy, we'll feel better. I hope you get a baby sitter soon so you don't have to worry about it.

  • taraceta28
    taraceta28 Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2012

    juneaubugg: i'm sorry to had to leave your job. I know what u mean about stressing out about when u can go back. I lost my job. turns out u only have 12 weeks that they hold your job. So now im ending radiation soon and have to start job hunting.

    It really pisses me off that I can't work at my job anymore. I am a nurse at an assisted living facility and have grown strong bonds with my residents and promised them I would be back. I still can go visit but its just not the same. I hate that something can shake your world so much. everyone always says to think positive and be greatful for what u have. well somedays i enjoy being angry and it just sucks. Hugs to all of u wonderful people who share the good and bad. its nice to read about reality instead of books :)

  • bevg49
    bevg49 Member Posts: 739
    edited August 2012

    Susan, I just read your post - I am so very sorry it's not the news you'd want to hear. I am so freakin' angry that this disease can wreak such havoc. As you said, the spread is not massive and you are a fighter and you can fight this thing and you can still win. It just sucks,....I just read where 2friedeggs said that juneau said it all so I looked back up the thread to see exactly what words of wisdom juneau had imparted..... Oh, I agree totally and will repeat: FUCK FUCK FUCK and HUGS :)))).

    Tazzy, your life will change without drains. Had mine in for 42 days and I really did a happy dance the day I was set free.... Yay for you.

    Juneau, sorry about the Chron's. When I was in having the mastectomy, I was in a room with a woman who had it and boy, she was not a happy camper. You don't need another thing to deal with. Life is NOT fair but you have such a good attitude and sense of humor, I'm sure it get's you through the day, usually.... 

    I have more to sway and more people to address but have a hair cut appt. so gotta leave... have a wonderful day to all and sending good vibes.. 

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited August 2012
    Soya... that's great you feel stronger every day - baby steps each day eh?

    Cindy... I remember waking up from surgery and having to pee... and cos of the morphine I was laughing..."hey I have blue pee...heee heee " I thought it was funny anyway.

    Juneau: good for you on the job front. Onwards and upwards.

    Ramols - good luck with your Nanny search and thanks for that quote. So true !

    (((Susan)))

    Websister... have fun at the LGFB workshop. I so enjoyed mine.

    2fried.... Religious or not... I think that is a wonderful way to live our lives. Really just making someone out there smile and feel special even for a moment is worth it.. you know what they say "A smile is infectious, you catch it like the flu.....". How simple is this... the other day I was grocery shopping and a little old lady was searching her purse for a 25cent for the cart so I just gave her mine...well if you could've seen the smile on her face... all for 25 cents... so I totally get where you are coming from with that.

    Taraceta... sorry you lost your job too - I am sure as a nurse you will be in demand. It is OK to be angry somedays too.... I know I have been angry and mad on many days because of what bc tried to take from me.... Remember anger is better out than in.

    Hope you all can find some sunshine and happiness today.
  • firestorm531
    firestorm531 Member Posts: 176
    edited August 2012

    Scorchy - dammit, that sucks BIG TIME!  I'm soooo sorry *hugs*

    When I had my lumpectomy, the dye injections that went into my areola weren't nearly as bad as I thought they would be.  They were like little pin pricks.

    Port insertion went very smoothly but I'm quite tender from it and of course having lots of bruising from it.  Its sticking out kinda weird and I almost wonder if it turned?  its like the side it sticking out instead of the top being flush with my skin.  We'll see what the MO says when I see her on wednesday.  I am happy to report that the skin over the port feels numb!  LOL 

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited August 2012

    Well, saw the RO and PCP today.  Everything good on the cancer front.  All agree that the mammogram looks good.  The RO thinks the "thing" was a seranoma (sp). "You should have called me or your surgeon" "I did.  You were on vacation, as was the surgeon. Your office said I could come in and a nurse would look at me, and if I needed attention they could shoot me over to the ER, or I could go see my PCP." "Oh. Well I think it was a seranoma and got infected.  It may well come back.  If it does.  Call your surgeon, or call me and I'll get you in to see someone to drain it." "OK"

    He thinks the sore back is stress, or maybe the tamoxifen.  If it continues we'll Xray.  "It could be the cancer has spread, but I don't think so.  Give it a couple of weeks.  GRRR  "Have another mammogram in six months and come see me then"  "You will be seeing the MO in a few months, right?" "November."

    Then I saw my PCP. "It was not a seranoma.  It was a cyst.  I'm going to put you back on the antibiotic for a couple weeks to make sure the infection has all cleared up.  Your back is probably stress related.  You've had a rough couple of months.  You heel may be a bone spur, or planters fawatsits, it is inflamed, so I'll give you an RX to see if that will help, and hey how about some pt for the back?  You can see you le therapist for some stretching and strengthening exercises... Come back in a couple of months if your back and/or heel isn't a lot better.

    So there it is.  I can't believe I used to go to the doctor once a year.  Now I'm lucky to make it a week.  

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited August 2012

    Firestorm, mine never stuck out at all, but I was in the minority of ports, most people on the boards stick out. I have a lot of fat to hide it, LOL.



    Teraceta, I am, I mean, WAS a HUC, got my termination letter on Friday. They waited more than six months for me, so I guess I can't kick, but I do understand. It sucks, and, in health care no less! Of course I am just starting to he able to consider going back to work (I had a lot of scenic detours on this journey), now I have to find another job. Anyone know of a job for an almost bald 57 year old, with a cane and scars? I guess ill just have to make a decision from all those job offers that will be pouring in...... LOL!

  • taraceta28
    taraceta28 Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2012

    Moonflwr912, i know what u mean. Im scared I wont get hired because they will think i will miss alot of work. Hope u find something :)

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited August 2012

    Tara, right back at you! LOL

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited August 2012

    wow this is an active group.  I miss a day and i have a lot to catch up on.  Working today again, sometimes that means i actually have more time to catch up than when I am at home...  I am getting back into the family life more and more.  getting the kids to their activities all the errands and shopping and doctors appointments.  Work is a day off.

    I saw my RO for the first time since my diagnosis.  Getting things set up to start rads.  I have my planning CT scan next week.  Get some little tattoos.  On to the next phase.  I just started to get my energy back from the surgeries too... it never stops.

    My arm is tight and hurts to reach out but I keep stretching and it gets better.  I hope to start running again in a couple of weeks.  I just need to heal a little more.

    My port stuck way out too.  I hated it.  Glad i had it but glad its gone.  It felt like the skin was stretched thin.  Now i have a scar that i hate.  it shows with all my favorite shirts.  I have decided to get a tattoo (a real one not little dots for rads:) to cover it up.  Not sure what to get there though.  I have never had a tattoo before.  Any advice from any more experienced with tats?  KNow any good websites with design ideas?

    Tonight is open house at my older two kids school.  I hate open house, too many people.  but the kids like to meet the teachers and see their new classrooms.  Will just suffer through the crowds.

    I have some comments for those who have posted, will post in a separate note.  Will be long enough!

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited August 2012

    Aruba, chemo or not to chemo... tough question indeed.  I didnt have a choice.  In some ways that makes it easier.  Though based on the stats you quoted I would do the chemo and not think back.  going from 12 to 4 percent recurrence rate?  That seems pretty significant to me.  But its a very personal decision.  If you are havign trouble deciding it sometimes helps to talk to a second or third doctor about it.  Hope you can decide soon and feel good about it though.

    Ramols,  as is the case with lots of things it sounds like having that nanny flake out on you might be a good thing.  Good luck with the search.  That porsche boxster is awesome.  I want the hardtop version (Cayman) that is coming out this spring.  it is hard waiting tho... Loved the quote too.

    Juneau, you really got it rough with the crohns and chemo.  fight on.  Sounds like you are happy about ditching that job, you will be ready for that new one!  Big congrats on the B9 biopsies! 

    Firestorm, hope the port isnt bothering you too much after the local wears off.  Those werent bad to get over.  You look awesome!  You took control of the hair not the chemo.  and you are beautiful.

    Mcook, good luck today with your surgery.  Its done.  Let us know how it went!

    Tazzy, hope you finally got those drains out.  Let us know how it feels to be untethered again!  And extra yay yay yay for being cancer free!  rads is insurance. 

    More soon...

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited August 2012

    Taraceta, so sorry to hear about your job.  We all deserve to be angry.  We all deserve to vent and here is a great place to do it because we really understand what you are going through.  I hope that you dont stay angry for too long though!  

    Mrskimber welcome to an awesome group of women.  I see that a lot of people have responded to you, and I agree.  if that pain doesnt settle get an MRI or further investigation of some sort. 

    Sillymama, I am so glad to hear that life stops revolving around bc.  for now I would love to go through a whole day without thinking about it.  Thanks for the encouragement!

    Cindyl, congrats on the clear mammo!  you did it!  Sorry the back is bothering you.  Its not mets but its good you brought it up.  We cant let any pain or bump go un investigated any more.  I hope it goes away fast but definitely keep your doctors following up on it if it doesnt.  Having an infected seroma doesnt feel good either.  hang in but take heart in that B9 mammo!

    Jean, stage four means distant mets, as in other organs than the breast and lymph nodes are involved.  Usually seen on a CT or PET CT.  if she is really stage four i cant figure out why they are sticking every little bump in the breast, they would likely want a mastectomy.  But generally they would investigate multiple areas to see if there are multiple foci of malignancy.  if so a mastectomy would be much more likely to be recommended.  if all the other little bumps are benign a lumpectomy would be ok.  but stage IV would supercede all that i would have thought.

    Scorchy!  fuck cancer! We have all gotten rotten news but you got an extra dollup there.  It sounds early, I know chemo and rads is coming for you, thank goodness these things really work.  HUGS

    Bevg, haircut! yay!  I am jealous!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited August 2012

    Drains are gone... I cannot believe how different I feel, I can move my arm... those suckers are long... like a soaker hose... about 8 inches of it inside you.   But they are no more.   

    Peace & love to all xxxx

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited August 2012

    Yayyayyay Tazzy!  you are free!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited August 2012

    jpmom... that is exactly how I feel.... FREE !  

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