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scorchy You sure theres not a little seroma from the snb? Could also be lymph that is trying to " find a new path" since your SNB but it is definitely best to run it by the bs. How many nodes did you have removed in your snb?
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2FriedEggs, I'll call the BS and set up an appointment. I haven't had surgery yet. It does feel, though, like the entire pit next to the boob is swelling. Honestly, it bothered me the tiniest bit after the fine needles aspiration, but it was a little tender and bruised. But it's more intense--and it certainly isn't the result of the FNA done almost four weeks ago yesterday.
Will update with more info as I receive it. Thanks much.
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Welcome to all the new ladies. As everyone said, crappy place to be, but this thread is awesome for comfort, love, support, laughs and anything else you want to happen here. This is a safe haven.
So I am not going to attempt to reply to each and every one, but am thinking of you and sending you happy positive mojo.
Had a good Saturday, but busy, and that wiped me out yesterday. I see my BS on Wednesday so am really hoping that he pulls these drains. I am beginning to really have a hate relationship with them.
For those with recon, saw this and thought of you all:
Wishing you all happy Monday's.
JPmom... love the new avatar.
Juneaubug... welcome back - missed your rants.
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Scorchy, good idea- I thought for some reason that you had had a sentinel node biopsy . I think throughout all of my needle core biopsies, lumpectomies, snb then dmx I've gotten to experience one of everything lol- swelling, a hematoma, some kind of vascular thrombosis in the breast, a seroma, armpit cording, then mondors cording. All were mostly just uncomfortable and cleared up pretty much on their own except for a little of the weird numbness at the back of my arm from after my snb. The jury is still out on that one as to whether the nerves are regenerating and it will go away or if I'm stuck with it. Fun fun. Yea give us an update, hope it's just a nothing.
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Tazzy , Missed you- I wondered if you got lost behind the shed or what!!!!! I'm not able to see the recon posting. I'll try another browser. In the meantime, hope the drains get pulled Wednesday- I know how anxious you start to get to get them out. Are they draining less or still going strong?
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Juneau - I had ac every two week x 4. I felt pretty crappy for the first week but then just when started to feel human I got zapped again:) I think towards the end I got used to managing g se it got better. I did get hand foot syndrome but mostly on my feet so I had a little pain when I walked. I had a scare with doc thinking I could have some blood clots so had to get a CT scan on week three,but it turned out to be nothing. It passes w se and now I have almost forgot about those bad days:) so when you feel crappy just remember it passes:)
Every time I respond to someone's questions about my chemo experience I remember something new that I had forgot about when it came to my SE and those days. I know once I made it through that I was so proud of my strength because I did not think I would be able to do when I first found out. I remember right bf starting, There was a night, I got in my car which is a fast one:) (mid life crisis purchase) and drove that bitch (not the safest moment in my life) I was crying and called my dad and told him I could not do this and I was not going to! I scared my dad and the next day he drove three hours and showed up at my house. I realized at that point I was trying to handle this like I have all things in my adult life, by myself. I was so relieved when he showed up as I needed him. The prior summer, my dad had a hip surgery replacement and due to blockage in arteries,that was missed prior to surgery, he had a massive stroke during surgery. He had to have therapy and another high risk surgery to remove blockage in his neck. Him showing up that day helped me because he understood how scary all this can be. I just need to remember this as my next journey with surgery and rads. I swear my dad has 10 lives and I hope I got those genes too:) You and others doing Chemo will forget the bad days and there is those but I felt they made me on strong SOB! don't forget I walked a half marathon during AC:)
I think I am just so tired of all this and like a lot of us been doing this shit for seven plus months and it pisses me off! I know I will get to plan that trip to Italy but I am getting a little impatient:) I don't know if it was reading all your responses to my post about my upcoming surgery and freaking out but I woke up today after reading those last night and I feel much calmer about Thursday and now just want to get it done with. thank you for sharing and responding! I don't know you personally but I love all of you for helping me get to this point.
I could not do this without all you and your stories/posts.
I hope all of you are having a good day with recoveries and chemo SE! Thanks for just listening and letting me type my feelings and experiences on here. Don't laugh at typos my dam IPad is a pain to type on:) -
2Fried... I like behind the shed... too much methinks
If you google 'Beauty fades silicone last forever' and click images you should be able to see the joke.
mcook... forgetting some of the SE's - that's chemo brain for sure. I do it all the time. I hear ya about being sick and tired of this.... we all are. So happy your Dad has 10 lives too.. here's to yours.
And I couldn't agree with you more about loving every woman on this board and even if I could've got through this without you all, I wouldn't have wanted too.
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Thanks Tazzy hoping you are getting along good after ur surgery and those drains come out soon! I have a post op appointment w ps today so I need to keep my head straight so I remember to ask the right ?
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That's why I write all my questions I have down, before EVERY appt. with any of my care team. Good luck with the PS and let us know how it goes.
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Hi ladies......hard to keep up with this active thread but just want to check in and give my well wishes for all of you! You are the most wonderful and courageous women I know.
Paula, you asked about Herceptin being give by injection instead of intravenous ....there is a new study (posted on this site but I don't know how to link it) that indicates it can be given by injection and is proving to be just as effective as by IV. It's not the standard yet, but you might ask your MO about it. Also, until you have your surgery you won't have a complete picture for your treatment, but I know what your concerns are about the " other" breast.
I opted to have the cancerous one removed, but will have the other one removed as well when I have reconstruction. For me, it was a matter of wanting to not have to worry so much about the other one AND getting a symmetry in the reconstruction.
I am HER2+ too, and since my tumor was small, I am not having chemo nor radiation.....so Tamoxifen and later Arimadex along with the MX are my only weapons. -
Mcook, so glad you feel calmer about the surgery. It will be okay, you will see.
Tazzy, I wondered where you were. Hope you lose those drains soon. I'm already dreading the drains next year when I get either lat or diep flap surgery - ugh!
This cancer stuff never stops. We're flying a 3-hour flight to San Diego on Wednesday and back on Sunday, and there is a risk of triggering lymphedema with flying if you had lymph nodes removed. I also had radiation in the axilla, which makes the risk even higher. I've been researching what to do to prevent this, and bought a compression sleeve over the counter. Did not have time to have one fitted and ordered. Some say the sleeve is not necessary, some say wear a sleeve, some say an ill-fitting sleeve can actually trigger lymphedema when flying, etc. etc. I am so confused, and at a point where I feel that I should maybe just stay home. There are so many conflicting opinions, and I don't have time to figure this out. Lymphedema is the last thing that I want to add to this cancer cocktail if I can help it. Oh man! Do I take the chance? I was so looking forward to this trip, and now I just don't know what to do.
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Liefie- I wonder also about lymph edema risks. My BS said don't wear a sleeve flying, the PT said do wear one. Makes me afraid to fly also. Also no hot tubs or baths over 98 degrees says PT, someone else said just leave your arms out of the water. I wonder if this is all anecdotal or urban legend?
I also heard to have a custom sleeve made. I started out so paranoid about lymph edema, now, I am paranoid about the next thing that lies ahead ( rads for me) or cancer recurrence.
Tazzy- nice to see you back from the shed.
Mcook- so glad your dad came. I needed some help after surgery with the drains and just getting clothes on. Zippered tops or buttons to avoid arms lifting over your head until your mobility gets better. I had very little pain when I got home. Thinking good thoughts for your surgery. -
Good morning everyone
It was good to hear from you Tazzy, sending good thoughts your way for tomorrow and drains
Mccook - wondering how your appt went with ps, it's getting closer, soon you will be updating us from the postop side
Liefie - don't let fear of lymph edema stop you from going on or enjoying your trip. You've got the sleeve, maybe try it on and wear for an hour or two now and see how the arm feels, you should have an idea from that whether it feels right or too tight. There is a lymph edema thread on this site where people may be able to advise more.
Juneaubug - hope you are sleeping OK now post steroids. When I picked my oral ones up from the pharmacist they suggested that even though they were twice daily that I take the second dose no later than early afternoon, I do think that helped me with sleeping.
I am gradually getting some energy back post chemo. I notice that my scalp is already beginning to feel a little tender so it will be interesting to see when the hair decides to start it's exit. I have my buffs, scarves and wig ready but not sure I'm as prepared emotionally
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Hi ladies,
Been busy working, looking at fast cars and doing things with my kiddos. sounds like normal life. I am starting to feel more normal too, just in time to start the next phase of fun and games. I have my RO appointment tomorrow to plan. Still need to heal a couple more weeks before we start though.
Teeball, for me taxol was cakewalk compared to AC. You can do it. It sounds scary if you are getting it weekly especially but the side effects were so mild it didnt bother me much.
Juneau, My hair started falling out on day 21 from the first dose. I buzzed it all then and over the next week the stubble fell like rain. I didnt lose all of it but probably 90-95%. My eyebrows didnt fall out completely until just after my last dose of taxol. They are slowly coming back 8 weeks PFC. But i still have to draw them on to look right.
Ramols, glad you could get out and just be a mom, doing mom things. Thats what we are all doing this for right? to be there for our kids? FU cancer.
Paula, I agree with juneau, if you can get an MRI that should pick up other problem areas. Hope you can get the insurance thing figured out and move on to just worrying about your treatments.
Liefie, dont let the fear of lymphedema stop you from enjoying life. I am paranoid about it too. I am at high risk just like you. But especially since you havent even had the problem yet don't let it rule your life. Yes take precautions, but it sounds like it is questionable whether you should even bother with the sleeve. Go fly!
working today. 10 hour shift. Then a day off. All my days off seem to have doctors appointments. yipee.
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Websister and jpmomof3, thanks for the encouragement. I will be flying tomorrow. Yay!
Nkb, I went on the lymphedema thread, and got very good advice from the veterans there. They told me exactly what to do, even if I fly without the sleeve, and I will certainly take their advice. When I come back, I will find a good lymphedema PT. Apparently there are not many who specialize in this, but I'm sure there must be some in the Vancouver area.
Websister, I don't think one can be really emotionally prepared for losing your hair like this. It is more like a submitting to the inevitable, and just going with the flow. You have the right attitude though, and the only way to go is to just embrace it. Wear your scarves, wig etc. with pride and dignity - you have earned it!
Tazzy, I sincerely hope those drains will go tomorrow. It's such a royal pain in the #%@.
Mcook, thinking of you. It will soon be over, and you'll be on the road to recovery.
Juneau, hope you are doing well too. The fact that you are a little quiet hopefully means that you are feeling better, and busy with other things.
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I have spent the whole morning on the picture forum reading thru 54 pages of one post from start to finish. I couldn't quit. The girl documented and posted her pictures (over a long period of time) from start to finish and her results are so impressive and encouraging. To top it off she has very successfully re-entered the dating world. I'm not single but I can only imagine the thoughts and insecurities that might go through ones head while in the process of reconstruction. Reading thru her posts and seeing her start to finish recon pics was more inspiring than any friggin novel I've read or any reassurances I have heard from my PS. I know several of you had umx and there are a couple of threads that document the surgery to get the girls symetrical with great results. I learned alot on there about the drop and fluff period being alot longer than I thought it was and realized that after a year or so, so many bc patients breasts are back to looking great and natural and that they are living their lives again maybe in a new state of "normal", but normal none the less. With my upcoming exchange I found it so encouraging. So as tough as today may be with SE's, hairloss etc , or as discouraged and uncomfortable as you might be with no breasts, uneven breasts, or rock hard expanders, much much better days lie ahead!
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Liefie- thanks for the info. I read some of that thread and will read the rest today. You have given me some peace of mind re flying. DH has wanted to travel again so badly and I have been too scared to. I still have rads to go and was told 10-20% chance I will get it from that, but, so good to know the exercises and breathing.
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2Fried..... I never even knew there was such a thread. Thanks for letting us know and sharing, that yes better days lie ahead... we need reminding of that sometimes. I know that I lose sight of the end result and get caught up in the crap of the moment... when really there is an end and its one we are all walking towards.
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Just had me a good cry and rather than sit here and wallow in it - thought I'd whine to you lovely ladies. Sigh... I'm so tired of trying to be strong... Sometimes it is just too much work and crying is much easier. More nanny troubles here yet again. WTF! Seems the newest one is allergic to our old house that needs new everything. In her defense - i wouldn't be surprised if mold is lurking around in a variety of places, but... So here I go yet again with another f'ing nanny search while dealing with BC. And as if that isn't enough - I'm on pins and needles waiting for my muga scan and first chemo to be scheduled. We were supposed to be getting things on the calendar asap since they waited so long to get my first appointment scheduled to begin with - yet nada... Do they not realize that people have lives to schedule and manage as well, in addition to cancer? I work full time and need to schedule client calls and appointments - forget the scheduling needs of two young kids and a working husband to boot. But that's ok - guess I'll drop everything when they finally get me on the schedule and dictate my life for me. F'ing BC. Deep breaths... Zen place...
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Ramols - I know it seems we get so many kudos for being strong that when we cry and weak it seems like a failure. It is our time to show that we are strong by understand the moments we need to let it out and share our feelings that is a moment of compentency not weakness:) I have had to learn not to beat myself up over this (still trying)
Lots of love to all and we are all strong even when we have to show emotions and get frustrated it is not a sign of weakness! Remind me of this too:) -
2fried - I can't find that link?
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6 month mammogram tomorrow.
I'm torn between being sure that everything is fine, and certain that they are going to find something that starts the merry-go-round back up.
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One thing I have learnt in life is it's OK to cry... we laugh when we want to - so I figure crying is only an emotion and its one I have used lots lately... and it makes me feel better. Cry away Ramols... its good for you.
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Ramos- do you have any family members who can help you out for a little bit?
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women are expected to be strong by everyone, we are our harshest critics too. Ramols, you will do it. I know you dont feel it right now but You are strong. At least we can show our frustrations and vent and admit our weaknesses here. Child care concerns are such a big stress, good luck finding another nanny, one that has a little more strength!
Cindyl, fingers crossed for your mammo, you will rock it!
finishing up a day of work. time to go home and hug the babies and try to herd them into bed.
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Chemo #2 DONE! I'm a quarter of the way done!
2friedeggs... I'd love tO read that link. I'm 30 (ish!) and single and think it might be up my alley. Thanks. -
Hi ladies..I have a headache ....I met with MO today ...Onco score is 26. I still get confused looking at the graphs on the sheet but she explained that with hormonal that I will take, my chances of distant recourance are about 12% over 10 years and chemo would reduce that that about 4 %. SHe is saying there is some benefit but did not seem to disagree that I want to understand about long term side effects etc. The nurse came in and said if I choose to go for it, I would get 4 tx of Taxetore and Cytoxen and explained all the SE. So choice is mine..to head to Chemo or to rads. Sounds like biggest help to reduce chances in order (after surgery) are hormonal, radiation and then chemo with chemo having the least amount of help with reduction in recurrence in my case. I know you all will say to throw everything I have at this, but when she tells me I may have long term neuropothy etc...i have to ask if the long term SE are worth 4%? Bring it on ladies...i need to hear from you. I am 53, post meno, nodes clear, 1.5 cm (told me if i was under 1.o cm there would be no chemo discussion), ER+, PR+, HER - (1+). I HATE THIS DISEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you ladies. I knew I could count on you for some sturdy virtual hugs and propping up. I shed lots of tears and my mother-in-law came over with dinner for me and the boys (since my hubby is out of town still until late tonight) and to give me a bit of a lending hand for the evening. The kiddies are now tucked away in bed - and after some distance from the brunt of my day - I think this nanny crap is all for the best. We hired her in a pinch and she came with more baggage than I need at this point in my life. So we'll find someone new. And thankfully we do have family close by who can pitch in if need be. As my hubby says - we'll get it done and it will be fine. And thank goodness he's the kinda hubby who will pitch in equally to get this done. Might trust his gut rather than mine with this next hire though - I think my gut is a bit off... And as for the oncology schedule - i'm gonna call every day and threaten to come sing kumbaya!
Thanks again all for the support. How did ladies deal with BC before the internet???
cindyl - heres to positive thoughts for tomorrow's scan.
jpmom - glad you wrapped up another day of work. Hopefully the kids were good tonight and didn't require too much herding! And I saw an article in the NYT today that porsche just released a brand new boxter and its apparently now the worlds best sports car? Maybe you should go drive that one really fast!
mcook - find your zen place and know that surgery is goood - and you'll be on the other side in the blink of an eye.
To everyone else - giant hugs, minimal SEs, and restful sleep!
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aruba and tploychron - missed your posts... Congrats tpolychron!!! Aruba - wish I could help you. I've been given no choices... Good luck. Trust your gut and do what feels right for you.
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Aruba
Wish I could help but when I first found out about having chemo I reach out to others who did the same route I was doing w chemo and rads. I don't know about your doc but when I started to feel signed of neuropathy I stop treatments so it would It not be long term. That was after 8 treatments of taxol when I started to notice the small signs, tingling and having a hard time grasping things so we stopped and I don't have those side effects anymore. I did get some arthritis after chemo but just stiff in am and might be caused from not being as active as bf during my treatments. It is a hard choice but I felt in my situation I had to take my chances. Not sure on what scores mean as far as odds but I know I will try my hardest not to do chemo again:) good luck with your decision. I am doing the same with my decision to do radiation I want more information on what this does for my odds:) frustrating I agree!
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