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  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited August 2012

    Luv- so happy you got into the trial! I think it is great you will be followed so closely. I hope with all my heart that this is your magic treatment!

    I have a chemopause question. My last period was Oct. 2010 (just before my first chemo). I have had horrible hot flashes and night sweats since Dec. 2010. A couple of weeks ago we went to Omaha for the weekend and as we were driving home it occured to me that I hadn't had a "hot on" all weekend. That same weekend I noticed the extreme dryness "down there" was gone and instead was extremely, uhm...moist. That lasted about a week and has since calmed down and the flashes are still gone. I have just felt as if I were going to start my period, but it has not come. Can anyone tell me their experience with chemopause? Should I ask to be tested to see if I am truly in menopause (I will be 47 in Oct.)? I am concerned that if my period comes back, will it significantly affect my estrogen levels. I was 3% ER+. Just wondering if an ooph or Lupron shots would be recommended to keep me in menopause. I would appreciate any advice! Thank ladies!

  • ksmatthews
    ksmatthews Member Posts: 812
    edited August 2012

    Tif I had my gyno test me she told me I was in menopause, my symptoms to had passed.  A WEEK later I started!!!  I was scared so called her and she made me come in for testing.  My Mo told me that I was probably not at my age it was unlikely.  So I would just give it some more time to see what happens.  Also my periods have been horrible too!  Then I skipped 2 months and while on vacation it came again.  Perfect timing huh?  

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited August 2012

    Ks- that's another thing I am afraid of- sporadic and heavy periods.They always show up at the worst time!! After all this cancer crap, the one thing I WAS happy about was not having a period again. I am hoping the flashes just decided to stop and it is nothing more than that. If I still don't get a period by the time I see my MO again (late Sept.), I will assume I am in permanent menopause. I will probably still ask to be tested though!

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited August 2012

    TifJ - your story with regard to hot flashes sounds like mine.  I haven't had a period since chemo (Feb. 2010). I had hot flashes after radiation but they stopped. Then I started to feel like I was going to get a period off an on and it never materialized. Months later, the hot flashes started again.  I'm not 48 and think I'm in menopause but who really knows????

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited August 2012

    Sugar- Crap!! You mean the flashes can start again? NOOOO! LOL!

  • Gabbi42
    Gabbi42 Member Posts: 16
    edited August 2012

    I havn't had my period yet. I finished chemo two months ago still having radition for another week. I am having lots of hot flushes . It sounds like thats pretty normal. I been feeling very stiff and I seize up a bit if I stay in position to long is that normal? Anyway can't wait for my hair to get longer its bit like watchinh paint try at the moment.

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited August 2012

    TifJ - I haven't had any hot flashes in a month or so. I also bought a great fan at Costco that blows on me lightly in the night because for a while the air conditioning just wasn't cutting it for me and my poor family members were getting rather cold in the house.

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited August 2012

    Gabbi- yes, that is very normal. I am almost 20 months past my last chemo and still feel about 20 years older physically! I do need to exercise more and I know that would help!

    Sugar- I sleep with a small fan on me as well. Last night I woke up with a small, short flash, but I just felt a little tingle and heat- no sweating!

  • Suze35
    Suze35 Member Posts: 1,045
    edited August 2012

    Hello everyone.  My name is Kim Shapiro, and I was a friend of Suze35.  I have spent the past six months working on a book about her journey here on these disussion boards.  As breastcancer.org owns the rights to everything Susan wrote here, it will not be going into general publication.  Instead a few copies will be made and given to her family and friends. As I was reviewing the preface and afterword this morning, I realized that they are both very much about all of you and how important you were to Susan.  I feel she would have wanted all of you to get a chance to read them.  So please excuse me for intruding on your space here, but I thought I would post them for you all to read.

    544 Days: one woman's cancer journey

    Preface

    We were in Florida the first time I remember Susan mentioning her “family” at breastcancer.org.  It was the first weekend in November and she was still feeling pretty good.  Tired, but still pretty good.  We had wanted to have some time away from the kids and husbands to chat, drink some wine and visit a spiritualist camp in nearby Cassadaga, Florida.  

    Over dinner one night, we discussed the details of her funeral.  Sad, but still many months, if not years, away.  We both knew that she would not live to see her children grow up, graduate from college, and get married - but we did at least hope she would have a significant amount of time left with her children and husband, Rob.   

    She wanted to be cremated, she told me, and was going to have her memorial service at a funeral home in Fort Lauderdale.  No religion, she laughingly insisted - after all, she was not going to be some kind of deathbed convert - but it would mean a lot to her if I would write something and speak at the service.  I assured her I would as well as her other request that I be there to help Rob and her three children, Aiden, Liam and Keegan, aged 10, 7, and 4 at the time. 

    We were at dessert by this point, weepy, sipping our glasses of chardonnay, when she made her final request.  “I need you to let my “online family” know,” she said.

      Online family?  I didn’t know what she was talking about.

    “The other triple negative breast cancer patients on the discussion board at breastcancer.org.  They have been like a family to me through all of this. I don’t want to just disappear from them.  I want them to know what happened and how I felt about them so that they won’t be worrying and wondering.  It’s terrible when someone on the board just vanishes ....”

    I agreed, not really giving it too much thought.  It was, after all,  a long, long way away.

    We returned from our Florida trip to a weather delayed halloween party for the kids.  Everyone happy, laughing, eating chocolate and racing around our house.   Susan looked pretty healthy.  The holiday season was just around the corner.  Life seemed good.  Plans were made for ski trips that winter with the kids, and a possible snorkeling trip down to the Florida Keys in 2012.

    I never got to see that Susan, the healthy looking one, with the short hair and big smile, again.  Her health went rapidly downhill in November and she was rushed from experimental trial to emergency chemo treatments, all in the hope of slowing down her rapidly advancing cancer.  She struggled to find the strength to make it through a family Christmas in Old Williamsburg and then it was back to the hospital in early 2012.  There was no longer any control - she was at the mercy of this terrible disease and we all knew it.

    One of the last times I spoke with her, she was lying in a hospital bed at home.  She had a piece of paper with a bunch of screen names and passwords written out for me.  Underneath them she had written in a somewhat shaky hand: “Write something beautiful for me,  Kim.  I know you’ll know what to say.”

    So I found myself, on the morning of March 12, 2012, staring at my ipad screen, trying to find the words to tell these strangers that Susan had died.  I went to the breastcancer.org site, signed in under Susan’s screen name, Suze35, and for the first time actually saw what she had been talking about.  There on that screen were written the pain, fears and deepest desires that she had shared with these other women who were also struggling in their own ways to survive.

    This is that story.

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    Afterword

     

    It was not until several days after Susan had died, while I was reading the many posts of sympathy and condolences on the triple negative discussion board, that I realized that they had not merely suffered one loss, but instead had lost three within that week in March.

    LJ or Laurajane, as she was known in her posts, had passed away a day and a half before Susan.  MBJ had passed away two days after her.  As I read through Susan’s posts, I saw those two screen names pop up again and again.  Who were these women, I wondered, who had struggled against the same disease and then all passed away within a few hours of each other?

    I had heard Susan mention the name Laura Jane.  I knew that she and Susan had met up a few times for visits in NYC.  With a little digging, I discovered that she was an artist from Bloomington, Indiana, who had passed away on her 49th birthday.  She had left behind three children, one grandchild and a dog named Charlie.  

    MBJ was more of a mystery.  She turned out to be a young woman based in Louisville, Kentucky.  After a 2009 diagnosis, she had believed she had beaten triple negative and had relocated to Kentucky from Los Angeles with her husband to start a new life.  Five months later on the day that Susan died, her liver shut down.  She died in her husband’s arms two days later.

    Even now as I write this six months after Susan’s passing, the death of these three still seems to rock the woman of the triple negative discussion board. Perhaps that is at the core of what this book has been about: that in the midst of the most frightening, and sometimes final, battle of their lives, women from all over the world have found solace, laughter, information and, yes, love, through the guise of a simple internet discussion board.  This community or “family” is very much self run and self regulated but still manages day after day to provide people with solace.

    Yes, I did not immediately understand what Susan meant in that restaurant in Florida when she asked me to make sure her “family” knew.

    Now, I do.

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     Thank you all for allowing me to post this here.  Susan's death was such a huge loss to me as her friend that I found working on this book project both satisfying and deeply emotional.  It means a great deal to me that I was able to share some of it with all of you.

     

    Kim 

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited August 2012

    Oh Dearest Kim,

    Words escape me to express my deepest thanks for stopping in here to share this story with us.  It is obvious that you loved Suze deeply.  Your way of writing is beautiful and Suze would be pleased that you took the time to reach out to all of  us here on the TN thread.  She was such an inspiration.  And her ways are still at work through you.  Thank you.

    Navymom

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2012

    Kim,

    A simple thank you seems inadequate.  Your words are beautiful and I can vision Suze smiling at your words. 

    Thank you.

     Michelle

  • christina1961
    christina1961 Member Posts: 736
    edited August 2012

    Kim,

    Thank you so much for sharing these passages. I was just thinking about Suze yesterday.  She had a big impact on my journey throughout treatment and sent me the link to a clinical trial I eventually participated in for additional chemo.  She was such an incredible person, so strong and logical in her thinking, one of the most grounded people I've known.  I would love to read the entire book as she was such an inspiration to me.

    The three women we lost so close together were all such talented and expressive women. I have been privileged to have known them.

    Christina

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited August 2012

    Luv - glad the stars lined up, for you to be in the trial. How wonderful that it's a pill and you won't be tethered to a bag. I hope it is an easy drug for you, so you can better enjoy your holiday.

  • Lady_Miz
    Lady_Miz Member Posts: 62
    edited August 2012

    Christina,



    Thank you so much for posting this. As I sat here with my husband reading this, he finally understood what I meant by "the sisterhood" or "my support sisters" - that this and another group I am part of IS family in a way no one without this horrid disease can understand...that every loss hurts & every victory causes the smile that he will see on my face as I look at my computer screen.



    Thank you for sharing Suze's words & as we grieve the loss of yet three more sisters in recent weeks, there is comfort in knowing that not only did we get strength & support from them, but they got it from us.



    Please give my condolences & wishes for bright blessings to her family.

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited August 2012

    Kim - thank you for including us. I am glad you were given a peek at our little world here. Perhaps only our mates, know how much we love and support one another. It may be hard for some people to understand our bond to each other, when only few will ever " meet" in person. When there is a death, we feel it like a blow.

    I am so sorry for the loss of your good friend. How lucky she was to have you.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited August 2012

    Kim... I never had the pleasure of 'meeting' Suze, but am honoured to be part of this wonderful group of ladies who Suze called 'family'.   Thank you so much for sharing with us, she was lucky to have you as a friend.

  • ksmatthews
    ksmatthews Member Posts: 812
    edited August 2012

    Kim thank you so much for sharing even though the tears are flowing.  She was such an inspiration and missed so much!  I don't think anyone can understand the bond us TN sisters have.  They are family!

  • monisch
    monisch Member Posts: 57
    edited August 2012

    any of the ladies here involved in a support group ?? if so, what do you do to keep the attention, make the meetings fun .... we dont always want to talk about cancer and we dont want to just a be a coffee  klatch group.  I would appreicat any new ideas !!  thanks

    Hope everyone is doing fine and hope yal had a great weekend.... 

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited August 2012

    Kim, I did not know Suze, I think she passed when I first joined the board, but I was moved by all the support and love for her and all the other wonderful ladies here. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited August 2012

    Kim: Thanks for reaching out - your words mean a lot. It's funny, a fellow TNer (Sugar77) and I were just talking about Suze this afternoon. She had such an impact on all of us here, and still does. Not forgotten, fondly remembered. Sympathies to you and Suze's family.  

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited August 2012

    Oh Kim thank  so much for posting about Suze even though my tears are flowing freely.  We all miss her so much just as you must do.  She was a wonderful,  helpful,  kind lady who only thought of others. I will treasure your words and make sure I am here always for all our friends on here as Suze was for us. Thank you.  Annie    

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited August 2012
  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited August 2012

    Kim- Thank you so much for sharing your loving thoughts of Susan with us. We miss Suze, LJ and MBJ more than we can put into words. She was blessed to have you as a friend.

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited August 2012

    Kim, as Luah said above, we were at a luncheon today and were talking about Suze. I was commenting on how Suze sent me a Private Message last summer when my family was going to Boston. She told me all of the spots to visit and said to have pizza at Regina's and cannolis at Mike's in the northend. We took all of her suggestions. Next week my family's going on a cruise and one of the stops is Boston. Top on our list is having lunch at Regina's and I will be thinking of Suze. Your words are beautiful and I thank you for sharing with us. 

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited August 2012

    that was so beautiful Kim...thank you. 

    Back from a great weekend with friends in Tampa.  So fun to finally have a little weekend away.  All we did was eat..me so fat!

    Looking toward my DIEP in November and getting just a little nervous.  i know it is what I want for sure.  Just may wait til Fed depending on my ridiculous insurance.

    Luv...glad you got into that trial. 

    Inmate...still hugging you darling.

    Cocker...let us know when you hear anything about your daughter

    TifJ...still waiting for my period to appear too.  Been gone since last October.  Hope it stays away but always wondering if it will.  MO is doing blood work when I go back in Oct for followup.  Hot flashes have diminished quite a bit too but still get some doozies..they are just fewer. Hate worrying about getting pregnant when not sure if it is even possible.

    Mags

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 455
    edited August 2012

    Thank you so much Kim for sharing your beautiful words about Susan with us. Susan's passing really hit me hard. Susan's was one of the 1rst on here to reach out to me, when a was affraid because my nodes didn't shrink on chemo. She was going through the same thing. So we encouraged each other throughout our treatments, SE and shared about our kids too. I really miss her. She was such a special lady. 

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited August 2012

    Kim:

    I am attempting to post this through my tears.  What a beautiful post you wrote and all the love and admiration- and then, the loss, that you have felt and still feel for Suze is so evident in every word you typed.  What a very dear and precious friend you are and I know that Suze is smiling down upon you, so proud to have shared her life with you.

    Suze, LJ and MBJ were so very dear to all of us - I know we all were terribly shaken by the loss of these three most beautiful young women.  We all started out just about on the same page, and to have to watch three of our most beloved sisters begin to suffer and fall to this beast of a disease is something etched upon each of our hearts forever.  These are three horrendous losses that not a one of us will forever forget - they meant that much to us.  While Suze and LJ began to fell they might be fighting against the odds, they each remained so vivacious, optimistic, and endearing, oftentimes comforting us!  None of us, not even Mary, knew just how far downhill she was going, while not even under active treatment.  She was so busy and excited about planning her new life in Kentucky.  In retrospect, I honestly believe that Mary thought all the pain she was suffering in her shoulder was from the frozen shoulder she had suffered shortly after her surgery.  Obviously, by the time she was seen, it was found to be cancer, spreading like a wild vine and then, within such a short period of time, shutting down her liver.  These were most assuredly three very tragic losses, for their families, friends and for all of us.  Each of them had so much more living and loving to do and give.  I will mourn them always.

    Thank you so much for thinking of us and your above post.  May life always be gentle with you,

    Linda

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited August 2012

    Sugar and Mags- I saw just a trace of blood today. I really. really don't want it to come back. I honestly thought that at 46 it wouldn't. My husband had a vasectomy 7 years ago, so getting pregnant is a remote possibility. Shoot, I had my last one at 39- I don't need one now!!

    Congrats on 1 year Mags!!

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited August 2012

    TifJ - I had a bit of blood myself last November.  My GP told me to let her know asap if I ever have any blood. So, when I had some traces, she sent me for a pelvic ultrasound and all was fine.  Afterwards, my medical oncologist said it was very common having trace blood. Hang in there!

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited August 2012

    Thanks Sugar! By the way, I meant I had my last kid at 39, not my last period! HA!

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