Starting Chemo July 2012

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  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited August 2012

    dventi--

    I'm on TC, not TCH, and I had mild sore throat after first chemo. Now, after second chemo last Thursday, I'm having a dry cough with a bit of sore throat.

    Susan--

    Another vote for the group hug!

    I think I'm doing a bit better after second chemo than first. At least I'm not having the killer cconstipation that I had last time. Now I'm using Miralax to keep everything moving and that seems to be working well. I'm having similar amount of nausea to last time. Once again, my taste buds have taken a sabbatical and the best foods are tasteless; lesser foods are pretty awful. I'm struggling to find things I can tolerate drinking, doing my best to keep hydrated....

    I'm not sure what (other than luck) determines frequency and severity of side effects, but I'm appreciating my center's procedures: Premedicating on chemo day with saline, steriods, and anti-nausea drugs, than taking a longer time than some other places with the major drugs. For me, it takes 90 minutes to administer taxotere and an hour for cytoxan, than more salline before I leave.

    Here's to an easy week for all of us!

  • MaddyMac
    MaddyMac Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2012

    Warning, whine alert. . .



    2nd AC treatment was on Friday, and I was given a new nausea cocktail, so I don't know why I'm whining, it worked. But I am very fatigued, and grossed out to discover that I now have Thrush, which is a very minor infection. . .Some of this must be due to white cell count falling from 3,000 to 100. . .


    But I feel very so alone. . .miss my husband almost three years gone now. Life, I don't know where you get your strength. At least partly from your father, I think.



    I'm up for the group hug, too.

  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2012

    MaddyMac,

     Here's a big hug. Sorry you're feeling alone. Just know that you have a whole family here.

    For the thrush, ask your oncologist for magic mouthwash with nystatin. It cleared up thrush fairly quickly for me. I also started taking probiotics again (check with your oncologist if s/he is ok with probiotics).

  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2012

    dventi - both rounds of TC so far I've had a sore throat and scratchy nose for about 5 days.

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited August 2012

    Maddy - here's a big hug for you {{{HUG}}}

    Anyone having trouble with their gums? I feel like mine are receeding on the bottom front teeth. I brush very carefully with a soft toothbrush and biotene. Then I rinse with either the baking soda mix or the biotene rinse.

  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2012

    Hi emilybrooke :  Yes had intermittent gum bleeding -... biotene worked for me too. 

    virginiab, cyano and soltantio -- Thanks for the sanity check on the scratchy sore throat issue... Appreciate your input!

  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited August 2012

    Yes - gums and tongue - ugh - nothing is normal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The Biotene toothpaste seems to help and the rinse. I has Thrush after the 1st chemo and it started to come nack after the second but I used the Nystatin rinse and it got rid of it. I've also had nose bleeds -about 4-5 days after the treatment. Lots of fun. I was sooooo hungry yesterday - just weird after nothing sounding good last week - but I guess just go with whatever. One week til my 3rd chemo and my hair is sort of coming back - it look slike a guy who hasn't shave for about a week - I miss my hair so much :(  I have never been a hair person - but I think I will be now.

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited August 2012

    I'm all for the group hug too.  Feeling like yuck today and I'm so tired of this nasty taste in my mouth.  My case nurse told me to suck on peppermint candy instead of the lemon drops so I may need DH to go to the store tonight to pick some up for me. 

    Had my 3rd treatment last Weds and I have to say that this may be my worst day so far.  I do give myself a high five today because I was able to help my 6 and 4 year olds with their bath this morning.  Yay!!!  Wow, to think that the bath is a big accomplishment for me today.  

    I did have a little sense of humor yesterday that got DH and my case nurse laughing.  I love to watch Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives on Food Network.  I told them that you know you're a cancer patient when you can watch a show, can taste the food in your mouth that the host is eating it and still have that metal taste in your mouth.  

    Hoping everyone is doing good and wishing everyone a great week!

    Take care.

  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2012

    teeballmom---loll! you made me laugh about watching Food Network.  Try ginger candies (they are called gin gins) and cinammon drops.  If you cant find the gin gins in a store.. I just ordered on Amazon because the store I previoulsy bought them from were out of stock. Great for nausea and metallic taste.

    I just had 3rd tx last Wed -my worst days were Sat and Sunday.

    Have been struggling with drinking something I can tolerate .. Seems like every treatment, some else doesnt taste good. Was doing fine with club soda and lime.. Now I despise it.. So I found that Coconut Water is going down fine.....

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited August 2012

    tellballmom and Ann-I hear ya on the tired feeling.  This (#3) AC was exhausting!  A lot longer to get going.  I think #4 will be easier (positive spin coming on) because it will be the last one.  It better be...I have school shopping to do for my kids...  Yikes!

    Dventi- I wanted to like coconut water but I found it tasted "off" to me.  It is super healthy for you...do you mix anything in it?

     Thanks all for the group hug...you guys are awesome!

    Reality check:  After watching a tear jerker of a movie yesterday...I couldn't figure out why I was going through so many tissues....seems having NO NOSE HAIR will do that to you! 

  • stayinhappy
    stayinhappy Member Posts: 42
    edited August 2012

    I had my 2nd T/C on Thursday of last week (8/9).  I had few side affects with the first treatment, and fewer this time. I post to let those who have not received a treatment know that it may not be as bad as they fear.  I was so frightened, but have not had much difficulty.  Fatigue, both physical and mental.  Some depression this time. But really no stomach or digestion problems with my 2nd treatment, and I re-bounded faster.

    I drank over a gallon of water on the day of (8 big bottles - 184 ounces). I started drinking water with lemon the day after because I was so bloated with water weight (from steroids, I think). Also took a laxative the day before to "clear things out", as I had constipation with my first treatment.  Not sure if those things helped, but just passing the info. along.

    I send hugs to those of you who are feeling dreadful.

  • stayinhappy
    stayinhappy Member Posts: 42
    edited August 2012

    Also, I am using the elasto-gel cold caps.  So far, I still have hair!  It has thinned, but I have enough to make do. I'll post under Cold Cap Users when I know whether or not they worked.  For those who have not begun chemo, I encourage you to read the Cold Cap Users thread if the hair loss is a major concern for you.

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited August 2012

    My AC #3 also kicked my butt. I am like a big slug. I have no energy. I don't even know if I have thrush or what, but my mouth is just eggghhh. I cheer for Natalie, who was going to gym...wow...she is a champ. My thoughts go out to everyone, hang in there!

  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2012

    Madelyn: didnt mix the coconut water with anything..
    Also tried the mango flavored one.. you may want to try it.  What has been working for you?..

  • PinkyWI
    PinkyWI Member Posts: 73
    edited August 2012

    Lifeonitside:  I am so sorry about your Dad, may he rest in peace.

    I am so far behind, no way I can catch up with everyone.  I had my 2nd DD AC treatment on 8/9 and am so tired.  I do hope that it goes away.  My platelet count in 110K so I am guessing that is the reason.  

    Now, question for you veterans...I had my head buzzed last week, the day before my 2nd treatment because I could not imagine my hair falling out in clumps much less cleaning up after myself.  Well, low and behold, I still have my hair.  Do you think I won't lose it and I had it buzzed for nothing?  At this point, I really don't care, good excuse to go with my natural color of grey but just wondering if I will or will not lose my  hair.  *sigh*

    For everyone experiencing SE's I hope they go away quickly!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    PinkyWl- Here is an answer to your hair question--- No one really knows if one will lose all of the hair from the chemo.  I opted not to shave/buzz my head after I got the 1 inch short short boy cut.   It has been my personal science experiment to find out if all of my hair would fall out or not.  I am now one week PFC after 6 rounds of Cytoxan/Taxotere.  I still have some of my pre-chemo hair..... not a lot but some of my hair has hung on.  I also started noticing peach fuzz and stubble growth after the 4th round of chemo.  I know some women on your chemo regimen that buzzed and did not lose all of their hair.  Again, not much of the pre-chemo hair left but they have wondered the "what if I hadn't buzzed" question as you have.  At this point, it really doesn't matter since you and all of the other gals here are beautiful!!!!
  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    I'm glad I buzzed mine down to stubble because it definitely was falling out in some areas, I'd rather have control over it than look like a dog with mange!

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2012

    Swimmom--will try anything to releive the nausea and dry heaves. Doc took me off of compazine. Added reglan. I have a nasty history with N/V though--all 4 babies and a miscarriage had hyperemesis--and with too much sun and riding in back seats of cars. So guess to be expected.

    Today was a good day! Worked all day. Ate Mac and Cheese for lunch. Got some fluids down.

    Going to finish a bit of editing and head to bed. Labs tomorrow.

    Best of sweet dreams to each 

  • PinkyWI
    PinkyWI Member Posts: 73
    edited August 2012

    Awe, thanks Melrosemelrose!  So you never lost all of your hair -- interesting.  We ARE all beautiful!  From my first treatment, this is day 19 and right now, if it falls out, it falls out.  At least I no longer have the colored hair and will be going natural from now on...I think.  Wink

     Lifeonitsside, you started chemo a week before me -- when did you start losing your hair?

    I guess part of me wants it to fall out becasue that tells me it is killing the fast growing cells but as tired as I am, I do know that someing is going on with this toxic dump inside me.  

    Susan, so sorry you are still experiencing nausea and dry heaves -- and I'm complaining about being tired!  Shame on me!  

    Hugs to each of you lovely ladies!

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2012

    Pinky--I had to laugh at the toxic dump. I told the president of the university where i am employed today--I have breast rot, am filled with toxic waste, am bald and bloated, have chemo brain, and cannot drink scotch. So--in his best---smile, nod, and walk gently away.....

    I have to laugh--

    today wore my Pink Heals t from the pink fire trucks. Google it--amazing group. some of my friends were in Denver a couple weeks ago and i now have my name on 1 of the trucks.  

    Buzzed to stubble. I left a bigger trail then my rescue 120 lb English lab and his cohort in crime the rot/lab/100 lb who know what. So  much happier snuggling with them than my @$#%^& husband. 

    Group hugs 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    PinkyWl-  As I recall, I had a lot of fall out a few days after my second round.  As for dealing with the hair stubble that comes out, you can use a lint roller to get the loose stubble.  I know someone who used duct tape since the loose stubble bothered her so much.  I never used the lint roller or duct tape in fear of pulling out whatever pre-chemo hair I had left.  I have pre-chemo hair left all over my head so it looks like a very thin veil of hair.  I have wispy ( and I mean very wispy) bangs in the front and some pre-chemo hair left on the nape of my neck.  It has amazed my onco that some of my pre-chemo hair has remained after all of the chemo.  You just never know what one's body will do during chemo treatment.   Wink
  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    My scalp started tingling and being sensitive on day 13 and handfuls came out on day 14. I buzzed it promptly. It took a few more days for me to really see the front of my head was getting almost completely bald while other areas seem to be hanging on. I'd rather have it all one consistent length so I plan to keep it buzzed throughout. My darling guy is more than happy to shave/clip it for me. I think he's digging it. So grateful it doesn't turn him off or freak him out. Glad he shaved it for me because I think that made it easier for him to deal with.

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2012

    On Day 13 I was getting gas--moved my hair out of my face and a very large hand full came with my hand. Day 14 and 15 had a sink full and clogged shower. Shaved on day 16--had strands remaining. 

    Am sleeping on a flannal pillow case--found my regular ones pull the stubble. Flannal is hotter-but doesn't hurt. Weird. I know 

  • PinkyWI
    PinkyWI Member Posts: 73
    edited August 2012

    Susan:  Thanks for letting us know about Pink Heals, what a hero Dave Graybill is! What a place to find your hair is coming out, the gas station!  And then to add insult to injury -- a clogged drain.  That is what I was trying to avoid. I read that a silky pillow case helps with the stubble too.  Enjoy cuddling with your best friends -- they are always there for you!

    Melrosemelrose:  I'll have to remember the lint roller/duct tape trick in case I need it.  And isn't it the truth - we just don't know how our bodies will react to treatment.  Reading here, absolutely everything is all over the map from the different treatments to the reaction to said treatments.

    Lifeonitsside:  My scalp has been itching and a bit tingly for over a week now but no hair coming out.  So glad that your DB is helping with your hair -- or lack of.  That is a tremendous help and relief! 

     Off to bed for me - DSon just left for work and I normally stay up until he gets there -- I am one of the biggest worry warts in the world!  Curse me!  But, this fatigue is really kicking my butt -- if that is the worst of my SE's I will truly be lucky!

     Happy cancer free dreams to all!

  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2012

    My hair fell out in large clumps about a week after the first round. However, I was in the hospital then with neutropenia which probably sped things up. I didn't lose all of my hair. I have bald patches and patches of hair which are thin. I have round 3 tomorrow and I have stubble in the bald batches. I cut my hair in a pixie and the hair which didn't fall out has grown. My hair is naturally curly so the thin hair stands up vertically about 4 inches in every which direction. So I have a spectacularly bad hair do. Think patchy Albert Einstein. In real life, I am a mad scientist so it's pretty funny. Having some hair is good with the bandanna because I can spread it out where it sticks out under the bandanna and it looks like I do have hair.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    My biggest challenge right now is financial. Some friends held a fundraiser and raised $5,000 for me, which paid my bills for three months. But that money is gone. And summer is always tough financially for me. I teach fine art to kids and our class sizes drop significantly over the summer. Add the time I'm losing to surgery and chemo and all the doctor appointments. I can't pay my bills this month. I live on my own and may have to change that. I talked to a social worker today and have to consider taking disability for the weeks I can't teach or stay on disability till my treatment is done. Tough choice because I love my job. LOVE. And I can't bear the thought of not teaching my kids for months. I'm also in line to run the next studio that opens up, which is unpredictable when that'll happen but I don't want to lose that opportunity. Hoping to meet with my supervisor early next week and talk this out with her. And, of course, I want to have a long talk with my DB about this as he always has good input.



    Anyway, just needed to put this out there. I'll let you know what happens.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2012

    So TC #3 went pretty well today. My nurse tried something a little different to see if we can prevent the allergic reactions I'm having at the IV site. She ran the Taxotere in conjunction with an additional saline drip to see if diluting it in the IV will stop the rashes I'm getting. It looks like I burned my arm with a hot pan. Then late lunch at Olive Garden with mom and picked up some groceries on the way home.
    Funny thing happened when we stopped behind a vehicle making a left turn (Less than a quarter mile from my house). The car behind us didn't stop till he ran into us!! (His cell phone rang and he looked down to see who it was... young dumb kid.)  Let me tell you, it sounded just like the replays on NASCAR!! One minute I was looking out the front window the next I was looking up at the roof of the car! (Both of our seats laid back on impact so we didn't really have any forward return movement, not sure if that was suppose to happen or just a malfunction). No serious injuries any of the vehicles, just some cuts and bruises for both of us. Mom has a bump on her forehead and my feet must have gone forward and connected with the bottom of the dash. I have a ruined pedicure and Mom's got a couple of broken fingernails. I suspect we'll be pretty sore tomorrow tho. Sadly the car didn't fare as well and will probably be totaled. The rear of the car was pushed up so far that the wheel wells were tight against the rear tires and they would not turn when they pulled the car up on the rollback :( It was a good little car and I know Mom will miss it. But we are both grateful to be able to walk away from the accident.

    I had a pretty sweaty head over night from the steroids and didn't really feel like getting another shower this morning, so I used a wash cloth and some baby shampoo to wipe my head and face off.  (The Taxo-tears get icky by morning) When I was finished wiping my face, I saw that I had little dark stubbles all over it.  Apparently some of the hair that is growing in on my head got taken out by the wash cloth!  I have so much peach fuzz that most everyone thinks I was crazy for shaving my head, but *I* know that it was the right thing to do because I would look like a half plucked kewpie doll by now and who wants to see that?  I think I prefer the bald look to the thin/patchy hair look.  I think it was day 16 that I got the itchy feeling that what was left from the short buzz cut was going to have to go.   Just remember... we are NOT our hair! 

    Keep swinging gals, we are getting thru this one day at a time.  Peace and restful dreams to all! 

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    PAEaglesfan - Glad you're both okay! Make sure you go straight to the hospital if you start feeling funky over the next couple of days. So sorry this had to happen to you right now.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    SusanHG123- That hair stubble does get caught in regular cotton pillow cases.  I purchased a pair of polyster satin pillowcases at Ross for less than $6.00 and slept on those for a while which helped.

    Easy times in the BGC for those who have chemo this week and minimal side effects for all!!!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    Yikes, PAEaglesFan.... glad to hear you and your Mom are okay!!!!  Hope you are able to rest and have minimal side effects from the chemo and the accident.  Very gentle HUGS to you!!!

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