Early Stage Natural Girls!

Thanks Mini for understanding. I'm a former marathon runner and am so addicted to running (well, not running any more, just jogging) Thanks for not telling me I'm crazy----

"My internist told me that jogging will make the bones stronger - he is in favor of my jogging."

Hey , if you've checked out, more power to you dogsandjogs!

Mini, I know exactly what you are talking about. My doctors think I am crazy or stupid, and unfortunately a lot of ladies on bco think so too. I changed my diet, added lots of supplements, and said no to chemo, rads, and AIs. It is too early to know whether or not my protocol will keep the cancer away, but this is the decision that felt right to me. Check out those books Diane suggested. The first one I read is the one she is reading now: "You Did What? Saying 'No' To Conventional Cancer Treatment." As an acupuncturist, I was not comfortable with conventional treatments. Still I didn't know what else to do. The docs had my path all marked out for me. Fortunately, I had that recovery time after surgery, when I picked up the book. It is all I needed to have the courage to choose alternative treatment. I found a naturopath, who prescribed most of the supplements I list.

Supplement Strength Number Purpose

Krill Oil 1000  2 Essential Fatty Acids & Vitamin D help with depression and the cancer
5-HTP 100 mg 1 X 2 amino acid & immediate precursor to serotonin help with the depression
N-Acetyl-:-Cysteine 500 mg 1 X 2 antioxidant amino acid & precursor to glutathione detoxification, intracellular defense against oxidative stress
Ubiquinol 100 mg 1 Enhanced Bioactivity CoQ10 cellular energy, heart health, antioxidant, bp, immune system, nervous system
Vitamin D3 2000 IU 2 X 2 Natural Cancer Fighter
Grape Seed Complex 1 X 2 Antioxidant Support
Spirulina 500 mg 6 Superfood
IP6 Gold IP6 & Inositol 2 X 2 Immune Support boosts natural killer cell activity, maintains dna integrity
Chrysin 500 mg 1 inhibits aromatase prevents conversion of testosterone to estrogen
Complete Probiotics 2 70 million CFU, 10 strains
DIM 300 mg 2 X 2 estrogen metabolizer & blocker hormonal balance
Methyl B12 5000 mcg 1 protects brain cells & nerve tissue
Iodoral 12.5 mg 1 Iodine Supplement helps thyroid function
B6 50 mg 1 X 2
Chlorella 250 mg lots superfood and heavy metal detoxifier
Melatonin 3 mg 1 X 2 sleep & anti-cancer
Curcumin + black pepper 500 mg 1 antioxidant
Magna-Calm 420 mg 1 scoop magnesium citrate -- calming
Modified Citrus Pectin Powder 5 g 1 scoop X 3  Proponents claim that modified citrus pectin slows or stops the growth of melanoma Some also claim that a compound found in MCP strengthens the cancer cell-killing ability of T-cells and metastatic prostate cancer.
Colloidal Silver 500 ppm 1/2 tsp kills over 650 disease-causing bacteria, viruses, tissue regeneration
fungi, parasites, and molds
Vitamin C 1000 mg 2 X 3 boost immune function

Smoothie
Coconut Milk
Almond Milk
Green Naked Juice
Greens First 1 scoop antioxidant power of 15+ servings fruits & veggies
Brewer's Yeast 1 Tbsp. B-complex vitamins, chromium and protein blood sugar levels, cholesterol levels, energy levels, skin conditions, large intestine
Beyond Essential Fats 1 tsp balance omega 3 and omega 6 fats
Immucare I 1 tsp builds & supports immune defense
Immucare II 1 tsp restores & regenerates deep immune response
Botanical Treasures 1 tsp reduces oxidative & inflammatory stress and normalizes cell behavior
Beyond Whey 1 scoop strengthens immune function, supports digestive
health, promotes anabolic metabolism
 

In addition to this I drink a pot of green tea each day. I eat no candy or cake -- sugary products. My diet is not mostly vegetarian with occasional organic meat or fish. I've only had 2 eggs since February. This is a complete reversal of my normal diet. I still struggle with exercise, but I think I am back on track with that.

dunesleeper

That is a LOT of suppleemtns . May I ask you ..

how are you feeling?

~Best Wishes

Mini, I can so dig it dig it dig it dig it. Sorry. That song was on PBS the other day. I didn't like it when my breast surgeon did not want to schedule a follow up appt with me because of my choices, but then again, she's a surgeon. She said I could contact her if I have a problem. I guess the oncologist will see me. I have another appt scheduled with her, even though I'm not doing what she wants.

Graced, I pretty much only drink organic green tea. Limits the flavors I can have but I feel more confident about them.

Purple, how do I feel? Hmmm. I'm OK. I have problems with depression and have had to scooch my treatment for that aside. I initially consulted the naturopath about the depression and only a couple months later found the cancer. When I went back to work after surgery I became excessively anxious, so I ended up retiring. So money is tight. I don't have as much coming in as is going out. Still, I feel far less stressed than when I was working. I can focus on exercise, eating right (it takes a lot of time to cut up all those veggies), getting my house straightened and then maybe even cleaned. Wowser! What a concept! For many years now my sole focus has been on getting through another week of work, so lots of stuff did not get taken care of. Now I can do that. I had a setback when I broke my finger, but I'm feeling better now. I have to get back outside and finish mowing the lawn. I get a nice feeling of accomplishment when I do my chores. I never felt that from work. I start school the end of the month: computer repair. Hopefully I will be able to get a job after that. So, I feel lots better even though I am not taking the supplements for my depression. I have my moments, but I'm good. The supplements are expensive, but I feel they are worth it. Sometimes I switch off and on with them, like don't take one of them one week then switch and don't take another one the next week. However, initially, I was very faithful to the regimen. The smoothie is pretty gross. I call it my "ick." However, I am very confident in its healing properties. Also, it makes me feel less hungry throughout the day. It also seems to keep me nice and regular, so I know no gunk is building up inside me. I have lost 30 pounds and am very happy with that. I was 200 pounds. I hope to lose another 30, but mostly I concentrate on eating right, avoiding exposure to chemicals (scented candles, air freshener, cleaning products, fabric softener, bug spray, and many soaps), and exercising (the most challenging part for me). I know my list seems excessive but when I try to figure out what to cut out, there is nothing I want to cut out.

OK, Natural Girls help me out. I will ask my onco doc next week, but I wondering now, so...

My BC was DX'd as 90%-100% estrogen positive and 10-15% progesterone positive. I was taking HRT at the time of my DX, (for appx. 2 years). 90-100% is high, but before the HRT my estrogen was literally almost non-existant, so I'm assuming that now that I quit taking it in March, it will go back to practically non-existant again (or will soon depending on how long it stays in your system). I know that the onco doc is going to use that 90-100% positive to try to get me on Tamox. Will no longer taking HRT effect that high positive prognosis or would my scores have been the same whether or not I was using the HRT? Anyone know or had a similar experience?

" I have my moments, but I'm good. "

Can't ask for more than that dune!

Purple - Mine was on a page labeled Pathology Addendum Report that I got from my surgeon. When I first got my report, I got just one page which I couldn't find. Today when I went to get a copy of it, it was 4 pages and included this report. I had called the nurse last week and asked her about the numbers and she didn't have a clue about what I was asking for. Today I was reading the report I picked up and it was in there. You may want to call the Doc and see if you got your complete report. Maybe that portion is not back from the lab or they don't automatically send the whole thing???

, Purple, I hope you find your answer soon.  How can your onco treat you without knowing all the specs....

The MO initially acted like : " We dont quantify it  .  ER PR positive is positive'"  She kind of made me feel like it was  the old saying that you can't be a little bit pregnant.  Pregnant is pregnant.  Still, I have to believe that info is SOMEWHERE!

Hello Ladies!

I am not sure if I am in the right place or not but I'll give it a go.  dx Nov 2010 of dcis...lumpectomy with no clear margins...found invasive small tumor...mx on right side with immediate reconstruction (nipple/skin sparing) and a lift on my left side.   Estrogen Receptor+, progesterone receptor -.  Her2-.  Sentinel node biopsy done AFTER my lumpectomy was clear.

I began the standard course of Arimedex but side effects were horrible.  Changed to letrozole, ok for a while but side effects too severe. Tamoxifen out because of history of blood clots.  With my oncologist I made the decision to stop taking estrogen suppressing drugs, continue Reiki sessions to heal my body and to continue my path toward holistic health. 

I am having a really terrible time with vaginal dryness and wondering if progesterone cream or a bioidentical hormore cream would help OR if any of you have any other recommendations.  Things I have used to date without significant improvement are Replens, olive oil, vitamin E oil and various organic massage oils.  I am 60 years young and not ready to give up on intercourse  (funny...haven't used that word in a while).  We are very creative and my husband is wonderful, but I miss that yummy feeling.  My face is turning warm as I blush while writing this.  Thanks for any wisdom!

Thank you Denise. Also, there is a high correlation between high protein consumption, well actually moderate protein consumption in US terms, and various cancers. I believe it is related to the pancreas. This information comes from "The China Study."

Following is a link to an article about soap leading to muscle weakness and hormone regulation.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/soap-ingredient-triclosan-linked-muscle-weakness/story?id=16996695#.UCqDmpHk-Sp 

I was just reading yesterday that Japanese women have a very low rate of BC despite a very high consumption of soy. They believe that it is because they have eaten it their whole lives and increased consumption is gradual. Whereas, we in the US ususally discover it later in life and jump right in and eat copious amounts right off the start and often eat and/or take supplements in levels that are too high.They are still doing studies and recommending until they figure it out to avoid it, but many believe that some soy consumption in certain forms is ok. Another thing to add to the list of conflicting information/advice we receive.

I also found it interesting that while the Japanese have a very low incidence of BC they have much higher rate of stomach cancer. Apparently there is something not as healthy as it seems in the oft touted Asian diets.