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  • CityFi
    CityFi Member Posts: 95
    edited August 2012
    SusanHG123, I'm so happy to hear that your experiencing lanterns on your cancer journey, and I hope more and more light up soon. 
  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2012

    Hey ladies, boy this thread just cheered me up.  Melrose, mamabr, CityFi, thanks for the shout-outs.  I think my mind is finally starting to put itself back together.  I took an epic walk tonight.  I just felt like I needed to walk until I couldn't walk any more.  Stayed out an hour and got blisters starting on my feet but it cleared my head somehow.   As a bonus, I saw a night-flying owl.

    "You're not organic anymore." really cracked me up! 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    _Ann_- Glad you are feeling better!!!!!Cool  Sometimes you just have to take a little time out and regroup and get back in sync and in the game.   Please take care of yourself, especially those blisters.    Yes, it's true, we are no longer organic..... now just chemically enhanced!!!!  HUGS!!!!
  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    Thank you for all your kind words. It has been a challenging week. Luckily, round 2 of tx went so much more easily than round 1, especially since there wasn't the whole put the port in twice drama.



    CityFi - Glad you're going commando. I have been, too, even when I teach, and it's so freeing. People are always kind and curious and some wonderful conversations have come out of it. I want to write a blog about how there seems to be some sort of shame attached to being bald because of this disease and how that seems to be changing the more we're willing to be honest and open about where we are.



    SusanHG123 - What a wonderful gift! Love comes from funny places sometimes.



    I'm so proud of all of us of this journey and so glad I have all of you wonderful women to take this journey with. You have inspired me and comforted me and I hope I have done the same for you.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2012

    Congrats to Melrose for graduating from Camp Chemo!  and no Rads!!  We are all cheering for you Laughing

    #3 of 4 for me on Tuesday and have such mixed emotions.  Happy that I'm almost there but dreading it because my taste is juuuuuust starting to be almost normal this weekend and everything will be back to tasteless crap next week.  UGH!!  

    Will leave you with this quote from Eleanor Roosevelt-- You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, 'I lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along.' 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    PAeaglesFan-Thank you so very much for the kind and encouraging words!!!!! It is such a "WOW" moment when one realizes that Camp Chemo is over and now on to the next part of the journey.

    I know exactly how you feel about your upcoming chemo on Tuesday.  Yes, the taste buds go on vacation and the yuck time is back again but...... what it really means is that you will only have ONE more left after that one!!!!!  Hang in there..... you've done pretty well so far and just think you will be done with chemo in 4 weeks!!!! 

    The quote is wonderful......

    Wishing minimal side effects for all and a relaxing weekend!!!Cool

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited August 2012

    So last night I took the plunge...my head is shaved. Yesterday was a crazy emotional day leading up to it. But as many of you have said, I needed to take control. So at 10 p.m. last night, my sister-in-law who is a stylist, shaved my head and my brother-in-law followed suit. I cried a little but at the same time smiled because I took control. The best part was when my husband said "Em, I'm not blowing smoke up your a** it looks really good." Just wanted to share my experience with you ladies and thank you again for all of your support!

    Ann - glad to hear that you are feeling a little better

    PAeagles - That has been one of my go to quotes over the last few weeks.

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2012

    Yesterday was my shave day also. A good friend--who has been my hair person for 10 years shaved while my daughter and closest friend cried and laughed with me. Tried the hair halo and a hat to leave-but was dripping sweat by the time we got to the car. Have been bare in the house. Will probably go with scarves at work. I am shocked everytime i look in a mirror though.

    Onward brave women. I gain so much from each of you. 

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    We are a bunch of beautiful bald ladies taking on the world! Shaved mine right down to the skin yesterday for a photo shoot with a henna tattoo on the top of my head. I'll post pics when I get them. Really beautiful work. This morning, my boyfriend laughed and said I look like a super villain with my shaved head and suggested I take over the world. I think that's a good plan.



    Second treatment went better than the first, tho the nausea was worse this time but very little bone pain. Never gonna be easy but I am grateful for such minimal side effects.



  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2012

    Went to the gym Monday & did an "easy" aerobic workout; Wednesday did a really hard workout; Friday did 2 slow miles on the treadmill and felt out of breath... did a little bit of upper body weights, and went home.  Not much energy yesterday or today, and I think it's just my emotions playing with me because I get my 3rd round of chemo Tuesday. I shouldn't let the emotions take control like that!

    Positive note: haven't had to shave my legs in ever so long! :)

    Question:  Anyone having any fingernail issues with cytoxin/taxotere?  Or do those just happen with other chemo drugs?

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    natL12- My onco told me that I could nail issues because of the Taxotere.  That is the reason she suggested that I ice my nails during the Taxotere part of my infusions.  She also suggested that I use clear nail polish on the nails.  I did both of those things and so far, I haven't seen any nail issues.  Hopefully, nothing will show up later.
  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2012

    Dear Natl12

    I am so impressed with your exercise! I have been so darn short of breath the past couple of weeks. Life--my second treatment was Thursday--nausea worse for me also. Bone pain not as bad. Headache-but may be from not drinking as much as i should.

     You would think--with treatments to heal us we would FEEL better after the treatments! 

    Back to the couch.... 

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    My friendwho's gone thru this with Cytoxan/Taxotere suggested dark/black polish because Taxotere is light sensitive. I've been doing black polish with sparkles for fun and my nails are fine so far.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2012
    Hmmmm.... I have had dark polish on my toes since treatment started, but nothing on my fingers.  Perhaps I'll pick something up to put on them before Tuesday.  Yes, I've had a pedi during my treatments.  I've been going to the same person for more years than I can remember (I can remember when she was expecting her youngest, and he is in 10th or 11th grade now.) so I trust her taking care of me the right way.  Her shop is CLEEEEAN and she knows not do anything that may cut me.  I hemmed and hawed about going for my pedi last week and decided to throw caution to the wind and just do it because it makes me feel good!  She's the one who was there for me when it was time for the hair to go and I think she was more upset than I was.  

    NatL I will think of you in your BGC along with me on Tuesday.  Can't believe you have aenergy for the gym, my legs feel like they are filled with we cement!  I did manage to get out of the house today and visit a small wild life park in our area.  It was a perfect day to be out of the house and I was able to keep up with my group of friends with only one small 'sit-down for a minute" break right after we climbed up a decent set of steps.  WHEW.  It was nice to feel normal for a while :)

    Chin up ladies, we'll get thru it together! :D
  • NDbcFighter
    NDbcFighter Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2012

    Hi, I'm new to this site. Just started reading through the posts here. I was diagnosed with IDC on June 6. After many discussions with doctors, I decided to have chemo first, then lumpectomy. I am married with 2 boys ages 6 and 9. They are very energetic and hard for me to keep up with.

    I started chemo on July 5. Taxotere and Cytoxan. I'm scheduled for 4 treatments at 3 week intervals. I've had 2 so far. Yay! Halfway there. I have my 3rd treatment coming up this Friday. My second treatment did not go so well. I had a reaction to the taxotere, about 15 minutes in. My upper back and shoulders felt real tight, then I got short of breath. I pushed the nurse call button, and they immediately knew what was happening at first sight of me. I got oxygen, which helped. The pain also went to my lower back. They stopped the taxotere, started a pain med and additional steroids. Things got better, and they slowly restarted the taxotere. We (my husband was with me the whole time) were there from 9am to 5pm. I was wiped out!

    I also had phlebitis at the 1st injection site- the vein was dark red/brownish for a couple weeks. The 2nd injection site is similar, but hurts like a bruise as well. This time around I'm more tired. I was expecting to have more energy like the 1st treatment cycle.

    Has anyone else had these problems? How concerned should I be about the health of my veins? I don't have a port, and have just 2 more treatments to go. I'm concerned about continuing the C&T drugs. I'm waiting for a call back from my oncologist.

  • Itsalltemporary
    Itsalltemporary Member Posts: 38
    edited August 2012

    natL12 - way to go with the exercise - you are an inspiration! My doc as told me that exercise is really important during chemo, but I can't do much more than walking for 30 min every now and then. My muscles feel so fatigued. You are doing good things for your body - keep it up!

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2012

    NDbcfighter, sorry you had such a hard time with the 2nd infusion.  I just finished 2nd round of AC.  I did not have an immediate reaction like you did, but I was surprised how much harder it was to bounce back, both physically and mentally.  My MO warned me the fatigue from chemo is cumulative and told me to prepare for it.  It still caught me off guard since the first one went pretty easy. 

    My clinic also does not use ports routinely.  I was told I *will* get vein damage (great huh?).  I have a bit of a sore spot in the vein up my arm from the 1st infusion site.  I don't fully understand the tradeoff, I was just told ports have their own problems.  I wasn't real eager to get one anyway.   I did ask them to use my cancer-side arm from now on, since I won't be able to have needle sticks there after surgery.  I figure I'd better save the "good" arm from vein damage if I can.  They don't seem to have a policy on it either way for us neo-adjuvant women. 

    I hope your 3rd treatment goes better. 

  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2012

    NDbcFighter -  sorry to hear about your reactions to the chemo. Every type of chemo seems to have its special group of possible SEs. i think my port is a nuisance...it gets irritated by my bra strap - and I wear a (usually) comfortable sports bra with wide strap. An ordinary thin strap bra would be REALLY bad. But having to get a vein accessed each time would be worse for me.

    Went to the gym today and did the easy aerobic workout; I guess it WAS just my emotions playing with me last Friday. Told my workout friends and instructor I would see them in 2 weeks when I feel good again. Chemo (#3) tomorrow, with Neulasta the next day.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2012
    NDbcFighter, I have had 2 of 4 so far as well (#3 tomorrow) and I had vein reactions to both. The 'rash' showed up about a week or so after the transfusion.  When I called the nurse about the 1st rash, she told me to try a creme with hydrocortisone in it.  That worked really well, but I still had a lot of itching for a few days so I took 2 benadryl ever 4-6 hours and that really cleared it up.  It reminded me of the reaction I have to poison ivy but from the inside!  After the itching and redness were gone, the site peeled a little bit like a sunburn would so I used Gold Bond creme with CoQ10 in it and it's faded away pretty well.  Not sure where she's gonna go for a fat juicy vein tomorrow!
    Back to my water now... hope all goes well for everyone in the BGC's this week!
  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    Sorry to hear about the reaction, ndbcfighter. I had a port installed and I'm glad I did. I had problems with the installation but with my second treatment, everything went fine. It's in my upper arm so it doesn't get in the way too much.

    A friend of mine who's been on this journey before says the effects are definitely cumulative so the exhaustion will probably get worse and reactions may come up stronger. Good to know it's not just me...

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    Here's the link for the henna tattoo series I did with my bald head. Adam Southard did a great job with the photos and Melissa Collins created a beautiful mandala representing strength. Such a great experience!

    http://flickr.com/gp/lifeonitsside/2rS2j1/

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited August 2012

    Hi Guys...

    Sorry I've been away for awhile.  AC #3 was harder to recover from.  I feel better today.  I'm sitting here with 4 Jolly Rancher "sour apple" candies.  The "tinny' taste is just making me nuts! 

    Lifeonitside- I saw your Youtube video and I hope you realize how many women that will help.  I LOVED it!

    Emilybrooke- I hope you are doing okay...I went out 2 weeks ago to looked at wigs and bought a cute one...by the time I was done trying so many on my hair was so matted I looked like a rabid dog...having the wig there made it easier to take the plunge and start shaving. I love your husband's response!

    Tellballmom- thanks for getting me back in the game and checking in!

  • NDbcFighter
    NDbcFighter Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2012

    _Ann_  That's a good idea for the surgery-side arm. It seems my chemo brain is taking over my creative thinking and problem solving... I will be sure to ask for left-side IV on Friday.

    I have had several kinds of reaction you mentioned. First is the phlebitis, which is a dark vein spot on my hand at the injection site. Second was folliculitis- a skin infection. It wasn't itchy, but like red pimples all over my chest. My face broke out a lot, too, but thankfully wasn't red and blotchy. I got antibiotics to clear that up. Now I have to take an acne antibiotic until I'm done with chemo. The 3rd reaction was feeling generally itchy all over. I didn't have hives, though I did give myself a bruise from rubbing an itchy spot too hard. Benadryl and steroids helped with the itchiness. At least the steroids haven't messed up my sleeping too much!

    My onco office called back. I will continue on taxotere/cytoxan, but they will give me more pre-meds this time. I hope that works. I didn't realize it going into my 1st chemo that C&T seem to be 'stronger' kinds. But I got that impression from others I've talked to about this.

    I try to think positive about at least one thing every day. At least I still have some hair on my head! It might be short (1/2 inch), but it's mine! And I still have eyebrows & eyelashes.

    Blessings to all of you :)

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2012

    Hi Madelyn, glad to see you back.  Yeah, I can imagine the 3rd AC on dose dense was rough.  Only one left though right? 

    I'm sick of the bad mouth taste as well.   Mine isn't really metallic, more kind of generally yucky, like morning mouth.  

  • rosewillow
    rosewillow Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2012

    hello everyone out there in chemo lane ,havent posted in last few weeks, but i have be reading all posts so keeping updated, lifeon ..i am so sorry to hear about the death of your father i know this will be a very difficult time for u but u are in my prayers, still talk away to him and he will give u strength, life is one big battle field at the moment.        i am due my 3rd tch tomorrow and i am dreading it, my second treatment was worse, se lasted much longer and my anxiety levels very high even had a panic attack, not used to all this loss of control;  i have a port insitu but i know my team always take blood and even bloodpressure from my non affected side i think this may have to do with reducing the risk of lymphodema post surgery.speak to your onco about this. if u r having so many problems with your veins could u not suggest having a catheter port or hickmans line inserted.                        good thoughts to u all....... dreading tomorrow

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2012

    Ndb and Lion emily and all the rest-

    Just got back from my cancer center for "Holy Water". 2 liters of fluid and lots of meds for nausea. Rough rough night. guess round 2 is hard for all of us. Nausea, vomiting, horrid. So much better now.

    My port is upper left chest wall. Told my surgeon--that know he has had experience removing women's bra's--place accordingly. Which he did.

    Anyone have experinece with horrid headache from Zofran?

    I wish we could have a group hug. Know I am old enough to be some of your mom--some of your sister--some other. But know we are kindrid loving spirits 

  • swimmom01
    swimmom01 Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2012

    SusanHG123

    I had awful headaches from the zofran too after the first tx. They prescribed me butalbital which seemed to help but then it's one more med. This time I took the compazine and increased ginger including sucking on preggo suckers to help with the nausea. I wasn't nausea free but will take that over not being able to hold a conversation or have a light on any day.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    My nausea was definitely worse in round two so I'm glad to know it's not just me.



    I'm in favor of group hugs, regardless of age! There is no age with what we're going through. So hugs all around!

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited August 2012

    Nat - you are such a champ with your workouts. I was a fitness nut before this started and I really have to get back into something. I vow to walk this week while I am feeling good.

    Madelyn - I am so happy to see you back. I've felt a bit out of sorts these last few days and thought of you this morning.

    Susan - I had a bad headache after my first round. Then the nurses adjusted the drip time on the cytoxan - went from a 30 min drip to 45 mins for round two. This made a world of difference for me. Not sure what time frame you rec. meds on but it might be worth asking about.

    NDbc - I had problems with acne too. I read that it is from all the steroids that we are getting. My onc told me to use topical cream - not working!

    Started feeling more like myself yesterday, which took two days longer than it did after round one of AC. The emotions were out of control this last round too. I was a blubbering mess on Thursday and Friday. Hugs to everyone tonight =)

  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2012

    Has  3rd tx - TCH - new SE ,,,has anyone had a scratchy throat, sore throat type feeling after a treatment?

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