I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    ok, I'm giggling...trying to "imagine" a "nipple shield with a window" ( for peeping toms?) sorry, back to our regular programs..

    Ggumby - have you ever read any thinig by JOHN SARNO about back pain.  Several orthopedic (sp?) surgeons also wrote a book using his as a basis.  Yes, it's a little "woo" - but as someone who has HAD back surgery - and is now thank Dog fine, I think he makes an awesome amount of sense. 

    What Yorkie said about "independents" - Paul Begalia on Daily Beast agrees, and more.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2012

    Hahaha Sunflowers! Yeah, it is a little weird. 

    Ayn Rand is his hero.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    and yorkie, more giggles coming your way - when ANYONE reads about AR, they're gonna find she was VERY PRO CHOICE.

    Can't wait to see how that one is handled....probably what some of my friends call the willardwiggleWink

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2012
    Oh, that is interesting! I also heard today that she is an atheist.  Surprised Talk about the elephant, so to speak, in the room!
  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited August 2012

    He also accepted SS payments, at the age of 16, when his father passed away, and banked them for college. It's OK for him, though. Just not anyone else.

    Mary 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2012

    Yorkie - glad your nipple looks good, hopefully it will look even better when the shield comes off.

    Up at 4:30 today - Steve gone to golf.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2012

    Susie, yes, I am anxious to see the final results. Then I will get a tattoo.

    4:30 yikes! Hope you get to sleep longer tonight. 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2012

    I must be the best wife - I like to see him go off with a hot breakfast as he may miss lunch - not that he would fade away if he did. Also he makes so much noise getting ready, I'd never sleep through it.

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited August 2012

    Welcome home, Sunflowers.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Thanks, Cherryl - haven't learned any new drinks, but a stock of nibbles ;-)

    Yorkie - Yes a deeply convinced atheist, proud of it, cornerstone of her beliefs, as well as being pro abortion, not pro choice, but pro abortion.  I won't post the links to that, but they're circulating widely online.  Gonna be interesting, thank Dog for popcornWink

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited August 2012
    Just picked up my very first Rx of Aromasin at the drug store.  For some reason I have this huge fear surrounding this stuff (knowing full well it is much more important than chemo).  Am I being irrational?  I am menopausal, never had a hot flash, my hair (when I had some) wasn't thinning, skin good for my age, and I usually don't have sleep issues. 
  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2012

    Sunflowers, thank-you for the recommendation.  I just read an interview by him and believe I'll read at least one of his books.  I'm not opposed to woo-woo, as long as it actually helps, and I can certainly believe I've got some rage going on. Laughing See, even my laugh looks kinda mean Laughing Laughing.

    Yorkie, mine has a "window", too.  the new one is a lot bigger than the old one - and the old one shrunk after the lift, so we'll see what I end up with.  I'm not doing the tattoing until early next year.

    I've often found it funny that the conservative group is so in love with AR when so many of her ideals (other than financial) are in direct conflict with their beliefs.  But, picking in choosing is something humans always do, so I guess I'm not 'zactly surprised... 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2012

    Kam - don't be scared and if you get hot flushes - welcome them - they show the drug is working. Aromasin is SO much easier to take than Arimidex for me - hope you have the same experience. Arimidex caused depression and sleeplessness - Aromasin made me feel like I had some of my old spark back and now I sleep like a top again.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2012

    Kam, I've been on it since December. Main SE I have had is carpal tunnel, but wearing hand braces at night fixes that. A lot of people say they get depressed, but since I'm on Effexor I can't tell. Some people talk about sleep problems but I sleep great. You definitely shouldn't be anxious. If it gets bad there are two other Als you can try. 

    Garden, do they give us the "window" so we can admire their handiwork? Smile 

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited August 2012

    Kam ... my onc told me to expect to react to the Femara the same way I reacted to menopause.  Because it's all about lack of estrogen.  Like you I'd had zero hot flashes, etc. and in my case anyway she was right.  Nothing from Femara either.  Well until 4 years later when I started having some joint issues.  I was scared to take the first one too so I know how you are dreading it.  May well be perfectly fine for you though.

    Lousy wife checking in here.  I do dinner ... anything else he's on his own.  I will not be telling hubby about you and your cooking breakfasts and lunches too Susieq :)

    Stuffed peppers for dinner tonight.  With enough leftovers for another meal.   

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2012

    WR - I always make sure I tell his golf mates :)

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2012

    Susie, I like your thread on the Alternative Forum. Very informative.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited August 2012

    Thanks everyone for the good news on aromisan.  Sometimes not reading the headlines on BCO is a good idea and I have to remind myself people are usually posting the bad news, not the good news.   So many of my friends have those dreaded hot flashes, so nice to hear White Rabbit, that I might experience none of these if I hadn't before. Now carpal tunnel....I've had that before, yikes!!!

    I've never understand the reply to those of who want to see the tax rates revert to where they were, that we should write an extra check to the IRS...maybe we should respond "and will you refuse Medicare when you turn 65?"  I just recently found out that Jim Cramer, on CNBC, pays ordinary income rates on his Capital Gains....I admire that. PR wants those rates to be zero.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2012

    Yorkie - the truth has to be told :)

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited August 2012

    Ayn Rand signed up for social security and medicare and was on both programs for six years until her death. What a hypocrite.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2012
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2012

    Just got back from daughter's bridal shower!  Ir was great but now I'm beat and my back is killing me!

    Ray wants me to see an osteopath for my back.  Waste of money?????????????  Comments welcomed.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited August 2012

    Oh, boy - yeah, way to go Mitt - nominate a VP candidate who is going to help make this a referendum on Medicare and Social Security, two of the most popular programs in the country. Scare baby boomers. REALLY savvy electioneering there.....now you are not only sure to lose - you are sure to lose BIG.

    ETA: Blue: Shrugging shoulders.....if it works, it works, and if you haven't gotten an answer this far, I say go for it!

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2012

    Blue - -haven't tried an osteo myself, but over here they are medically trained and lots swear by them. I think the treatment is more gentle than my manipulative physio.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited August 2012

    Blue - I say go for it - back pain is the worst (I know from experience).

    Athena - nice that Mitt is doing us a favour - now he has the boomers against him, also women, and all other minorities - Ryan is his "mini-me".

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Osteopath - a chiropractor with an MD degree - also happens to be the profession of the human being who crushed my spinal column when he "crinked" me, ala the usual chiropractor manipulation - material from disc burst and lodged in spinal column - result - loss of use of much of right leg from knee down, surgery a few days later.  FINE NOW.  SO, I don't have too much good to say about the crinking professions ;-)))  Read John Sarno - or ask GGumby about it.

    Seriously - yup, the RAGE we "store" in those spasmed muscles - which then crunch down on the spine, with the yucky dics all ou bipeds have by our age.  I am fine without a LOT of discs, and holes in my spine ;-))) Nerve did regenerate after surgery, took about 3 years, 2 of them wearing a leg brace.  ;-))) 

    I'd rather go thru all that again, than even THINK of voting for someone who was "inspired" by Ayn RandTongue out

    Susie, according to my docs, that line about AI being "effective" if you have SE's ain't true. I never had hot flashes when I had oomph about 25 years ago - don't have'em now.  And it's been 5 years  on Arimidex - really feel good.  Liked yoour thread in Alt Forum - I won't post ANYPLACE but here..but read some of them.

    Blue- so happy you had a good Bridal Shower - best to keep knees bent, feet flat, or ROUND PILLOW behind knees ;-)

    Keeps the hamstrings and lower back muscles as stretched as they can be.  Think of all those bars (pubs) which have brass rails about 6 inches off the floor in front of the bar - so when you're standing sloshing the booze, you have at least one knee bent - effectively taking strain off lower back so you can stand longer - AND DRINK MORE.  This is true.  Honest.  Also, fetal position on side, with pillow between legs to keep spine as level as possible.  Resting on the side which hurts least.  

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited August 2012

    Sunflowers - yep, the stress is falling away and I'm getting ridiculously excited that I can paint the new place. 51 yrs old and never had a place I could paint before. I've already decided the bathrom will be periwinkle with dark green and gold towels, etc. The spare bedroom will be two tones of pale yellow in vertical stripes with a border of ivy leaves/vines around the top of the walls. I'm torn between which of my bedroom and the living/dining area will be dark green and which will be gold (leaning toward the bedroom being green at the moment). And I'm thinking of an accent wall in a different color in the living/dining room, anyway, whatever color it ends up being.

    We were discussing my decorating ideas today at work and a coworker said, "I just cannot believe the difference in you since you left the old place. I really wondered if you'd survive the stress then - you were a mess; and you're all relaxed and happy now. You just really needed to get out of there."

    I need to get a cat-proof mousetrap. I went down to the basement last night and found the girls had discovered a mouse. If they hadn't all gotten in each other's way, they might have had it, but instead they lost it under the water heater. LOL They looked so disappointed.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2012

    Sun - ouch - don't like the sound of that. As to the SE's of the aromasin - I did have hot flushes when I went through meno - I'm not saying that none now means it's not working, I just like to tell myself that - helps me put up with them :)

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited August 2012

    Riley, that's great to hear. Decorating is such fun.

    Maybe the election won't be so boring after all. Now it's Ryan who , like Mitt, will have to go back on everything he has said.

    Watching the Olympics - will be so sad when it's all over.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    I happen to be a great believer in chiropractic.  It's apples and oranges to blame chiropractic manipulations for what an osteopath does.  Chiro manipulations are geared to the nervous system.  Osteopathic manipulations are geared to the lymphatic system.  Since osteopaths have become more medically (ie) drug oriented, they do not practice their manipulation skills very often as compared to chiropractors.  For independent verification, check malpractice rates of osteopaths vs chiropractors.  Chiropractic rates are very low because there are very few cases statistically of permanent injury caused by chiropractors.

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