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Just finished catching up and so sad that we lost another sister.
Tazzy - glad it went well, rest up now.
Welcome Desertmama, this is a great place to fight the aloneness.
Brow - you look beautiful.
Spica - what an amazing smile.
I just got out of bed and just trying to get motivated. Spent Tues and Wed working like a dog clearing for the exterminator. (live with a Mother who I don't think has thrown ANYTHING away in her life!) Thur was running her to doctor appt's. By Friday I was exhausted. Don't know if it's old age or I'm not back to normal yet, but it it's taken me 2 days to recover. Kinda scared me that I was that exhausted. Makes your thoughts go to the dark place.
Everyone be well and have a fun weekend. -
browerl....we understand..do not be upset that you feel you are posting "petty" stuff. Losing your hair must be greived also..We all know that this crappy disease could take anyone of us and that is why we are here for each other. To comfort each other at any stage that the other is experiencing or perhaps has already suffered. I have been on this site now for a full year and I love my sisters here so much. They have helped me through every aspect of the journey from DX to surgery through chemo and rads and even now as i try to figure out what has happened and who i am now after all of this. I feel different and cannot quite describe it. Not really sure what has changed me the most. Am i stronger or weaker? do not know for sure...but know that you can come here at any time to say anything that you need to. We are here no matter what. you are so beautiful in your wig and you are rocking it!
Tazzy---take care love and heal well.
mags
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mags...love your post...so true in everything you say!
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KIRKLAND - Lisa Marie Worthington was born Sept. 17th, 1977, in Yakima, WA to Ed and Nancy Worthington. Lisa was raised in Yakima, surrounded by lots of friends and family, active in Bethel Church of the Nazarene in her formative years. Lisa made a decision early on in life that she wanted to impact her world in a positive way, and little did she realize the impact she would have. Lisa graduated from Davis High School in 1995, and that fall she started school at Pacific Luthern University. In the fall of 1996, Lisa headed off to Northwest Nazarene College and little did she realize how her life would be changed. Lisa met her future husband, Michael "Gessner" Brown when they were working on their bachelor’s degree at NNC in Nampa, Idaho. Gessner changed Lisa’s life from that moment on. Born with Cystic Fibrosis, Gessner would need all the love and attention she could possibly give during his short lifespan. This debilitating disease necessitated frequent hospital stays and extensive home care.
Lisa graduated summa cum laude from NNC in December, 1998. Lisa returned to Yakima after graduation and on January 2, 1999, she married Gessner.
Shortly after, Lisa and Gessner moved to Winston Salem, NC, where they both started their careers. Lisa became interested in obtaining her law degree while working as a paralegal with a national law firm based in Winston-Salem, Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice. Lisa applied and was accepted at the University of North Carolina (UNC) law school in Chapel Hill, NC. She and Gessner moved to Raleigh, near the school, and it was at a flea market there that she and Gessner found Beauty, their beloved beagle.
In May, 2003, Lisa graduated with honors from UNC with her Juris Doctor. While attending school Lisa also provided pro bono assistance to various groups including the Civil Legal Assistance Clinic and worked on Guardian Ad Litem and Innocence Project.
Lisa and Gessner moved to Seattle in 2003 where she studied for the Washington bar exam and began her legal career. She was admitted to the Washington State Bar in November, 2003 and worked as a law clerk for the Honorable H. Joseph Coleman of the Washington State Court of Appeals of the Ninth Circuit.
In 2005 Lisa accepted a position with the law firm, Dionne & Rorick, in Seattle and at Geirsbach & Kraft in Bonney Lake, WA until 2009. During this period Lisa continued to deal with the deterioration of Gessner’s health and she began working part time. Gessner succumbed to his disease on November 2, 2010. Lisa impacted the CF community immensely by her open and candidly honest blogging concerning the horrible CF disease. She was involved intensely on the internet encouraging those with CF, and enjoyed traveling around the US meeting other CF patients to give them much needed hugs and encouragement.
The following year in April, Lisa was diagnosed with breast cancer and courageously battled. During this time, she also continued to blog, and encourage other breast cancer patients, as she herself struggled with the disease. On August 1, 2012, Lisa beat the pain and disease, when she entered into her rest, in Kirkland, Washington.
Lisa is survived by: her mother, Nancy Campbell (Sam), grandma, Edith Nance, father in law Tom (Lynn) Brown, mother in law Barbara Brown, siblings; Della Osbourne (RD) Eddie (Leah)Worthington, David (Kari) Worthington, and Brandon Thompson, sister in law, Diana (Dan) Hall. She was also an amazing aunt to 9 nieces and nephews. She is also survived by 2 1/2 brothers and step brothers and sisters and numerous aunts and uncles, and cousins. Lisa was preceded in death by her soulmate, Michael Gessner Brown, and her grandfather Melvin Nance.
There will be two celebrations of her life over the next week. In Seattle, an informal get together will be on the rooftop of her apartment complex, Leva on Market, 1545 NW Market Street, Ballard, beginning at noon. On Tuesday a service will be held in Yakima at Bethel Church of the Nazarene, 1103 W. Mead Ave, beginning at 11:00 AM. In lieu flowers, please consider making a donation to the charity of your choice.
...Blondelawyer -
Ladies I need a shoulder to cry on.
My youngest daughter Mandy went for a mammogram last Thursday and they have found a lump. I am out of my mind with worry about her. The Radiologist said that he doesn't think its anything sinister but that it was up to her as to whether she saw a specialist about it. She decided because of my cancer that she would and she has an appointment with the specialist on the 20th August. I feel so sick about it with worry. She doesn't appear to be worried but she might be hiding it because of me. Do you think as he said he doesn't think it was sinister that things could be ok. The official result from the head radiologists in another town won't be back until this week. I can't eat or think straight. Do you have any advice I can cling on to.
Annie
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thinking of mandy..hugs MOM..believe the guy..if tests show diff..then ya can worry..
easy to say huh?
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OBXK Thank you for sharing.
Cocker Its nothing till its something..I agree with Doris. I do not know the stats but most breast lumps are benign. Unfortunately some of us are on the list of the opposite result. Smart girl, your Mandy is to get it checked out. But once again the waiting is the horrible part. Anyway she can pull her family cancer card and tell the office that her Mama is currently in tx for BC and maybe get in quicker? Squeeky wheel gets the grease and it never hurts to ask for what you need. You hang in there, Cocker. You need your strength to get through Rads. We will help carry your worry....all have big shoulders here. Sending love your way.
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Annie - I agree with everyone that while it's hard not to worry because it's your daughter, it's likely something benign. 80% of lumps are benign, and younger women's odds are better than us older gals. Positive thoughts coming your way!
Busy weekend, so I'll just say that I hope everyone is havvig a good one!
Hugs to all,
Michelle
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Round 1 down - day three and four were NOT good for me, I am such a big baby . . . but day 5 was o.k. and today, day 6, seems to be MUCH better. walked 2 miles (albeit slower than normal) and now off to church. If it stays the same as now, I'll be going back to work tomorrow for the two weeks in between . . . . God is Good . . .
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Annie - I know you must be thinking the worst, having experienced it. I can only imagine the hell, waiting is for you. But, as others have said, the odds are in her favor. It seems like she is making all the right decisions, and will get to the bottom of this. Knowing your history, I think the doctor would be cautious, in saying he didn't think it was anything to worry about. Holding your hand...
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Annie - first a big (HUG). The odds are in her favor for benign (knew if LuvR was around, she'd have the stats) and I'm sure that with the doctor knowing you have BC, he wouldn't have given her the option of the specialist. If he thought it was suspicious, he would have insisted she see the specialist. I know there's no way you can't worry, so we'll worry and pray with you.
Thank you OBXK - Blondelawyer's life made me really think about destiny. What are the odds that you would marry someone, who's life would be short due to a chronic disease, then be struck out of the blue and die from BC. Makes me think they must truely have been soul-mates, and God wanted them re-united.
Fern - you're not a baby, you're a chemo patient. If you're up and walking....you're doing da*n good!!
Inmate - hope you're doing well? -
(((Hugs))) to you Annie and Mandy. I cannot begin to imagine the worry you are going through Annie (not having children myself).
Michelle, you always have such great advice and a calming influence.
Fern... I agree with Kathyrnn... not a baby, but a chemo patient and yes you are doing brilliant. Dont be too hard on yourself, be kind to you.
Thinking of you all and sending hugs and positive vibes.
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Hi all,
I was diagnosed back in March with TN IDC at 441/2 years old. I am 45 now. My tumor was found by my doc during clinical exam (large lump in L breast- around 6cm), never showed up on mammo, only sono. Scans showed an "extension" area as well. Started a clinical trial of neoadjuvant chemo and radiation before surgery. Had 24 rounds Taxol (small doeses-2x week) and 35 rads in 4 sections of breast/axilliary arae with 7 boosts. Lumpectopmy July 31st, no cancer found in remaining tissue. SNB clear as well. I will follow up with 4 rounds of AC (every two weeks).
I am glad to have found this group, as I have met many wonderful women, survivors of BC, but none with TNBC. I am experiencing quite a bit of numbness post-surgery. So much that my doc sent me to the ER for testing, which was all normal. It's not only my left side, although that's where it is most severe - under my arm. But it also spreads through my left shoulder, up into my neck and head, through my face, and down a bit into my right arm. The severity of it seems to come and go. yesterday it was only noticeable in my left arm, but it is back today in other areas. It was also in my right side, but that has diminished.
Anyway, I was curious if anyone else had experienced this. I am thrilled with y pathology report, especially considering where I started, but this numbness has got me down a bit!! I have 3 young children and was hoping to feel "normal" for aa couple of weeks before starting my next round of chemo!
Thanks for reading!!
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kcgal: It's not unusual for nerves to be cut during surgery - is that what may have happened? What does your BS say?
After my Lx and ALND, I was completely numb in my armpit, the inside of my upper arm, parts of my breast and nipple area. I'm happy to say that most of the feeling has now come back (many many months on), but I still have one small numb area in my armpit that I guess will never recover.
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Ok so I'm brand new to this...I was just diagnosed with TN IDC this past Friday...all the reading I've done is very upsetting!! I'm 38 and have 3 kids at home. I know this may sound crazy...but please tell me there's hope for me. I don't understand why TN is so much worse....
Please help
Stephanie -
Luah - when I called y BS, she sai she "wasn't near any ajor nerves". I see her for a follow up on Tuesday, o we'll see what she says then. She did go into 4 areas (I had 3 wire localizations and the SNB).
Stephanie - I know exactly how you are feeling -- I was there 4 months ago!! But TN usually responds really well to treatment - I had Taxol (chemo) an rads prior to surgery and my huge tumor (6cm+) essentially disappeared prior to surgery. I went for 3 opinions before deciidng to go with my team of docs - once you deciide on a course of action and set your mind to beating this, you will feel better!!! I have 3 young kids as well.
Kim
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The 5 Owens - Welcome to our family of loving sisters. Sorry you had to join us, but we are happy to help you in any way we can. I'm going to leave it to others with more technical understanding to answer why our TN is so much worse. This is a tough time to join us for another reason, 2 of our sisters recently died. But you need to remember there are a whole lot of us who have survived and have moved on to our new normal. Best wishes as you get your treatments lined up. Ask us anything, and there will be someone who can give you information based on her experiences.
KC Gal - Welcome to you too. Your treatment sounds like a winner for you. Numbness seems to be part of the side effects of surgery. My numbness has almost disappeared, but once in a while I'll find an area along the incision like that feels numb. No pain anymore. I had a modified radical mastectomy. But I know numbness is a frequent topic on this thread. Have you been offered lymphedema physical therapy? That just might help.
Cocker - I'm feeling your worry all the way across the ocean. And now you have to go back to your lodge and worry while away from home. My youngest daughter had a lump scare at the same time as my surgery. Did we ever feel devasted and the wait was the worst. Her lumps turned out to be nothing, and so will your daughter's. I'll keep you and Mandy close to me this week.
Way too much sadness here lately. Jan
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Hi ladies- you have been busy this week! We went to Omaha this weekend and took the kids to the zoo and visited with my cousin-in-law who is currently in treatment for BC.
Annie- we are holding your hand. I know you must be worried sick and nothing we can say will change that. Just know we are sending as much good energy your way as we can!
Welcome- Stephanie and kcgal.
Tazzy- glad you are feeling well enough to post!
OBXK- Thank you for sharing Blonde's story. I imagine she is so happy being reunited with her husband.
Hope60 and Inmate- where are you? Thinking of you both.
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Thanks so much for your support. I suspect we will talk often!! So glad I found you all!!
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Cocker, fingers crossed for your daughter - the waiting is the worst!
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Annie....can't imagine what you must be feeling but I think it is as the doc says, unlikely to be anything at all. Or just a cyst. So sorry you and your daughter are going through this.

We are all tough birds like this one!
Susan
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Yes inmate and Hope60 where are you?
Susan
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the 5 owens - YES THERE IS HOPE - I was diagnosed in April - surgery on 5/7, chemo started last week - Triple negative - - - I would (if I had to do over and knew "this much") ask if they can start chemo before surgery - to PROVE that the chemo shrinks what you have . . after removal of all breast tissue - the measure of recurrence is more subtle - -
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welcome to the new ladies...know you are scared but we are here...ok???
Cocker..when i read your post i felt sick...I'm scared with you ok? agree that maybe they can get Mandy in sooner...I bet YOU can do this for her...you (and Mandy) need to know right now what is going on...but I agree it is probably nothing but you need to know now....(can you tell I'm very impatient about this stuff)...I just don't like you or your daughter having to wait..the anxiety is so much worse....don't put yourself through it if you don't have too.
Went to the Bridgestone golf tournament in Akron today...."saw"Tiger Woods, saw Phil Mickleson walk by...I so wanted to say...Hey Phil..how is your wife and to let him know I was a 3 year survivor..but you are supposed to keep quiet on a golf course so I did...not easy for me
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5 Owens, TN is considered a more serious type of breast cancer than some others for several reasons. It's usually aggressive and fast-growing, and doesn't respond to known targeted therapies like Herceptin, Tamoxifen, etc. So it's often treated more aggressively right out of the gate, since this is your first, best chance to smack the unholy crap out of this beast. On the bright side, because TN is aggressive, it sucks up the chemo aggressively, too (heh, heh) and thus, usually responds very well to chemo. We do have higher rates of recurrence and they're more likely to come back sooner than hormone + and HER2+ tumors, and they're more likely to come back as metastases rather than a local recurrence. This is probably related to the fast-growing nature of our beasties. Years 2-3 post cancer is the peak time for worry, although by 5 years out, our rates of recurrence actually start to fall below those with hormone + and HER2+ tumors. I think of it as "since it grows fast, if it's going to pop back up, it will likely have done it by then", although, of course, with ANY breast cancer, there are no guarantees that we're ever safe from it coming back. I hope this hasn't frightened you too much. There are serious issues with TN, but there are some good things about it, too. Most reassuring to me was that it usually responds quite well to chemo.
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Ladies thank you so much for your support especially when you have your own worries and problems to deal with. I have managed to get Mandy in a week earlier so its next Monday she see's the specialist but it still seems a long way away. I even began bargaining with God today, me for her, just as long as she is ok. Thank you all so much I feel so much better now that you are holding my hand. Bless you all. Annie
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The 5 Owens, i feel what you are going through, i am new to this as well,my 1st surgeon told me "You have triple negative,it needs to come out" and gave me a computer printout. I was terrified because i heard Triple neg. is the worst one to have. I panicked,thought about putting my affairs in order,decided to research and came upon this site. This site has educated me and brought me peace. We can survive this,btw, i dumped the surgeon and got a different one. Thinking about what if's can be terrifying,we are here for you.Also, i heard so much about the side effects of chemo,told mtself,don't anticipate the side effects,take it as it comes and see how it affects you,my family and i are surprised at how well i have tolerated it so far. Good Luck
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Hope 60 and inmate, hope you are doing well,i think about the ladies on this site often,you are helping me get through this. Annie,hope all goes well with your daughter,can only imagine your anxiety
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Thank all you ladies giving me hope at a much needed time!! I feel better after listening to you all!! I had a good day yesterday after I stopped googling stuff!! My husband actually took away my laptop and I'm glad he did!! Anyway thank u all!! I'm sure I'll be visiting often and asking plenty of questions as I find out more!
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The5Owens: Riley summed up the reasons for TN's scary status very well... and its receptivity to chemo is a good thing. I will add that there's a lot of research going on right now to find a targeted therapy for TN - and that's also a good thing, though we are all impatient to see clinical applications. You might want to check with your onc about clinical trials; it may benefit you... and the research results will certainly benefit those who follow. Also, there is a fair amount of evidence that a low-fat diet and regular exercise reduces the odds of recurrence quite substantially.. so that is our own little "therapy" we can do for ourselves. I think we have all experienced the initial terror you are feeling; once you have a plan in place and get going with treatment, you will feel better. There are thousands and thousands of women who have survived TN - a large majority do! (we all need to keep reminding ourselves of that.)
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