Starting Chemo July 2012

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  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited August 2012

    Melrosemelrose--

     I got some great scarves from Headcovers, too. Thanks for the local suggsetions for buffs. I'll check them out.

     Well, My sweetie and I shaved my head after she got home from work. It was good to get it done before the cleaning lady comes tomorrow.

  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2012

    Emily-thanks for the tastebud bit, better all the savory food now, LOL, before my 2nd treatment, just in case!

     Pinky-maybe you are on 'dose dense' regimen? (Every 2 weeks?). I am on an 'every 3 week' schedule. Good luck with your next treatment.

     I am getting closer to getting over my initial hair loss shock. I have always a thick dark mane of hair, which I've always had, so my 'hair falling out' has been traumatic for me, as I posted over the last few days (had pretty bad meltdown yesterday). Today I got a call from the awesome woman (Lisa) who opened an account with a John Renau wig source for me at her own offering (I apparently have a 'large' head, so I had to start searching by size, and came across  http://www.headcovers.com/12537/large-zara-by-jon-renau-wigs-monofilament/-lace-front/?gclid=CNzplv2VyrECFYTd4AoduVkAFg ).  And it's cheaper than pictured, and insurance will pay most if not all, so I am happy. So, I chose the dark, dark brown option with a bit of light in it, and my wig was delivered to the 'Wellness Boutique' at the center where I am being treated. All day at work, everytime I went to adjust my scrunchy, strands and strands of hair kept coming out. I didn't cry today at my desk at least,  but it was annoying and still shocking. When I was telling my co-workers that I was on my way to pick up my 'new hair', I managed to squeeze out a laugh, and of course some cries. They were all very supportive as they have been, and told me I probably would look 'hot'. Well, after the nightmare that this has been, it was nice to hear that, because right about now, I feel everything but (though my wife always does, and couldn't make me feel sexier every day if she tried!). So I went and they put it on me, and the joke was, that despite how much hair I lost over the last few days, the fact that I have to much hair to begin with was making it hard to fit the wig on my head. Obviously that was a source of mixed emotions for me (Damn cancer, you're not getting my hair as 'fast' as you want!), and ('I am not here not there, have my hair under a wig'). But, the good news was it actually looks very good (and I don't really go around tooting my own horn, especially not right now), and I am relieved and happy that it looks a lot like 'me'. I really needed that (some days, I couldn't feel further from 'me' as many of us have experienced), and the staff at the store said I made their day, because I looked genuinely happy. I have tried wigs on in the last few weeks, and I looked like I was in disguise-funny conceptually but not in practice. I initially left disappointed and scared I was going to look strange for months.  So, whew that part was over (I was afraid it would look aweful). I went home, in the bathroom, told my wife (with whom I have been with since 1999), that I had to go put my new hair on, but I wanted it to look nice). Well eventhough I've never been super 'girly' in terms of obsessing over my looks (I was a former athlete, and generally am a t-shirt and jeans girl), I still suddenly was having fun with it. Put it on...made a few sexy faces in the mirror, and then proceeded to show her. It looks great, natural and it will be fun to wear Fedora hats and baseball caps. My stylist can even cut it a bit shorter(I generally wear my heair shoulder length and blowdried pin straight, eventhough my natural hair has a slight wave in it). So for a sec I was dress up Barbie, and that was ok. I suddenly felt empowered and smiling ear to ear. Wife loves the wig, but most importantly I feel I can 'rock this wig'. I never thought I'd ever say this, but as fast as the hair crisis came on unexpectedly, I'll be fine. Can't wait to get my sleeping caps, and I may even get another wig to play. I may even take some black and white pics, classic style rocking my 'new hair'. Just wanted to share this because just 24 hours ago I was devastated about my literal 'unraveling'. We all have to at least try to feel physically comfortable through these treatments. It's hard to see a blatant reminder of the cancer in you, as a physical manifestation. All of the amazing strength and sharing here, my friends' and family's support, and my co-workers' boost today reminded me that I am beautiful I am inside and out. And hopefully my little 'dress up' tale with its smiles and tears will help someone else lurking or struggling with this right now....wish you all a comfy, positive and mild side effect evening and weekend Kiss

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2012

    The Stephen King Nightmares! Oh my! I thought i was about to be committed to the Rubber Ramada. Last night it was: somehow I owned a tiny little fox-about the size of a bic pen. I kept him wrapped in a blanket in the house. But my house was in a multi-level condo that I drove straight up (I HATE heights) and parked on on a circle. My next door neighbor was a routine guest @ a psych facility where i used to be emplpyed. And we WAS going to get me. 

    Add that to bone pain---will be a week tomorrow--and I know it means the injection is working--but the firecracker knife flicks..... Nausea. Chemo a week today.  

    Sad you are having the night terrors--but am so glad I found someone else. Nights are hard enough--adding the fear of sleeping compounds.

    I love this group. The candor, frank posts, honesty. I hate this group and the *#&%&% breast cancer.  

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    So my incredible, amazing boyfriend came to my rescue again, bringing his clippers over tonight without my asking to help me shave my head. He's a director and a cinematographer so he "directed" my blog for the head shaving. My dear friend, Tracy, also came over since we're going to Disneyland tomorrow so she's staying over tonight. The tears I shed tonight were tears of laughter and gratitude. Mark shaved my head first into an off-center Mohawk and then down to one tiny lock sticking out at the front of my head. We laughed until we cried. They made it an evening full of love and laughter and just safety that I can almost handle the fact that I'm pretty much bald. And he made me feel loved and beautiful every single step of the way. And he even cleaned up all the hair afterward. So today started out very sadly and depressing and awful but I'm going to bed tonight knowing that I'm loved and feeling that I can get through this, without having well-intentioned people standing around telling me I'll get through this. I am so truly grateful to have these people in my life. The vlog will be up soon and I'll post a link to it.

  • roadwarrior28
    roadwarrior28 Member Posts: 301
    edited August 2012

    Well I had my 2nd treatment yesterday and I think my hair is starting to go. I have this soreness all over my head like I've had my hair tied up tight for too long...

  • Aqua-girl
    Aqua-girl Member Posts: 7
    edited August 2012

    Hi,

    I am from the August chemo group and just had my first A/C. I am feeling so so, but my face is bright red. Especially my cheeks. I thought someone had a recipe to calm this down. Could you repeat it for me? Thanks for all your info. It helps so much. The Claritin is working for me. I had my Neulasta shot yesterday.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    roadwarrior28 & Other Gals Dealing With the Hair Changes- Sounds like your hair follicles are letting you know that they will be releasing the hair soon.  My head felt better once the hair started falling out and when I took showers.  I know that you are heading into the part which is not easy to handle because it is when one can visually see and physically hold the hair that has come out.  It was a yikes moment for me but I had decided not to get too freaked out and just deal with it by doing what I could do.  Yes, there was hair in the shower drain and hair everywhere on me, my clothes and my pillow.  I just cleaned, vacuumed, lint rollered the hair away and moved forward with hats/scarves/Buffs/bandanas/topless wherever and whenever comfortable.  I had a short short boy hair cut at my 2nd round and never shaved/buzzed my head.  I still some, not much of my pre-chemo hair, mainly along my hair line.   At some point around my 4th round of chemo, I started feeling a little new hair growth--- a few stubbies and peach fuzz.  I'm heading into my #6 and final chemo this coming Tuesday with more stubbies and more peach fuzz.  Yes, I rub my head to check to see if that new growth will fall out to every chance I get and to see if the rest of my pre-chemo hair is gone.    Where my eyebrows fell out, I can already see new growth.  I know it isn't easy; in fact, it is tough emotionally since now you are reminded again physically of where you are at on this journey.  No matter what, all of you are beautiful--- not just because of the physical changes but now you and the rest of the world can see what a beautiful person you have always been--- now just a little more stronger in every way!!!

    Have a wonderful weekend and minimal side effects!!!!!  

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2012

    rounnd 2 complete Im really waek and wobbly and struggling to take in fluids or food,  my counts were low so i have to go for nealasta later.  this seems harder than lst time 

  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2012
    Life-good for you! I am glad things went well wish shaving and that it was turned into a fun and loving experience. It will be my turn this weekend, and your post made me smile and was comforting:) My wife said she, too wanted to do a mohawk, so we could laugh. My nickname for this whole melee has been 'Xena', so I said 'great, maybe I'll run around with a spear, like a Warrior from Troy'...I'll be a real Warrior Princess. We both laughed. What else can one do? It's a metamorphosis (albeit unwanted) for us all.

    Roadwarrior-that's how mine started (still hurts now, and hair is up in scrunchy). Tingling, pain in scalp, hang in there!

    Ann-whew, another one down. We've all heard all this before, but....Ugh....Try, try, try, by whatever means necessary to hydrate. Small snacks, nuts, yogurt, fruit, carbs, anything. Lack thereof is one of the main reasons most people end up in the hospital (had a stint myself)...the toxins have to be washed through your system with hydration. Lack of food and hydration may help keep your counts low, because you're not getting enough nurition while the drugs are annihilating your cells.  I hope things get easier-hang in there, one day at a time.....

  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2012

    Thanks to all for the replies.

    Boobzilla - no firecrackers, more like little "pokes", but I appreciate your advice. Yes, SEs are so strange and different for each of us. My tastebuds went awry for awhile the first round, then came back to normal (Or maybe I just got used to it?)

    Melrose -I'll try the eyedrops - and I wish you the very best of luck next Tues. on your 6th round.  You've had such good advice and good works for many of us.  Hope you stick around to share after you're done with the infusions.

    Maddymac - sorry you've had such bad SEs. Hope by now they have calmed down.

    Ann - I got some gatorade at the grocery today, and i'll try substituting it for some of the water I drink. I read the taxotere article...it's good to know such things.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    _Ann_- I know you are having a hard time right now.  Definitely okay for you to come here and let it out that round #2 is a little crappy.  I know it's hard to eat or drink right now but you just need to do that so you can to flush that chemo through with the fluids and you need to keep something on your tummy so you can take the anti-nausea meds.  It's hard to drink that water when you just feel yucky and it is just flat out boring.  I drink water w/ a lemon slice or an orange slice to flavor it up and with lots of ice.  I also drink ginger ale that is super cold and iced up too.  The ginger ale helps settle my tummy and I just need something else to drink other than water. If you feel up to it, watermelon is great for getting fluid in your body.  You can even put it in the blender and make a great watermelon juice.   I also fill up 32 ounce Nalgene water bottles and drink from those the first few days after I get chemo.  That way, I know I'm getting enough water in.   You can try gatorade also.   As for the eating, try some crackers, rice, mashed potatoes, noodles--- just a little something bland.  You don't have to eat a full meal; in fact you just need to keep something on your tummy so the nausea doesn't set in and get you.  Sending you gentle HUGS and lots of positive calming and healing prayers, thoughts and energy. 
  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited August 2012

    Another thought on hydration

    When I couldn't stand the taste of water (and I usually like it), I found filtered water was better than tap water. Better for me meant less icky tasting. But even better than that was hot water. I just nuked a mug of hot water and as long as it stayed hot or reasonably warm, I could get it down. When it got cool, it was icky again. Ann, maybe it will work for you. (Maybe not, but it's a cheap experiment). 

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2012

    Thanks for all the tips.  I napped all day today, just getting up to go for my neulasta.  I'm going ok with diluted cranberry juice cocktail and oatmeal right now.  Watermelon does sound good, I'll ask the hubby to pick some up.  I remember more nausea last time.  I really don't feel discomfort today yet just super tired and wobbly on my feet.

  • Marianne52
    Marianne52 Member Posts: 78
    edited August 2012

    I am only having waves of nausea from time to time. I am having pain everywhere else. Is this a side effect of Chemo? Monday 8/6 will be my fifth treatment of Cisplatin and Taxol. They couldn't give me Taxol last Monday because my Liver enzymes were elevated?? Any ideas? Thank you. Marianne

  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2012

    Boobzilla - I had to laugh about you and your wife and "Xena"!...When I had my mastectomy in June, my son called and said I was an Amazon.  I thought he meant I was strong....no, he was referring to the story that they removed their right breasts in order to be better archers!

     So I told him I might take up archery when this is all over.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2012

    Boobzilla - Go, Xena!

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited August 2012

    Ann-hope you can get rest this weekend. I remembered that you are on 3 week intervals. I pretty much slept for 2 days after #2. As much as the water is hard to get down, I can't drink anything else, so I force down water. I've had really bad heartburn, so not only does eating sound bad, it wrecks havoc on me, so I eat little amounts. 

    It's been almost a week without hair. Little by little I have faced the outside, increasing my confidence to go around town. Since I live in a small town, I can't go far without running into someone I know. I haven't worn my wig, and probably won't, but I have been wearing hats. I guess the big thing with the hair loss is that it screams cancer. Before hair loss, I could do many things and forget about all this. I went through many early appointments and tests without anyone even knowing something was awry. Actually, today I ran into someone I haven't seen for years. She casually asked, "how's everything going?" all I could say was, "great, everyone is doing well and busy as ever". She kind of looked at me funny because obviously everything has not been that great. She was very nice and what can you say?? It was just an awkward moment. There won't be too many of those, but I guess it makes me a little stronger.

    Lifeonitside - Hope you had a GREAT day at the Happiest Place on Earth!!! I love DL and am planning to go there in January!

    Happy weekend to all! 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    mamabr- You might want to check with your onco about taking something OTC for that heartburn.  No reason to suffer through that.  I had heartburn with the 1st round of chemo which seemed to improve after a few days.  At my appointment with my onco before my 2nd round, she told me to start taking Zantac or Pepcid.  I didn't experience any heartburn so I didn't take anything.  Fortunuately, I haven't had any more heartburn since the first round.  I'm also careful about what I eat the day I receive chemo and for a week afterwards.  No spicy foods for me.  One of my side effects is burping.  I burp a lot and like a drunken sailor after chemo.  I guess I'll take the burping over other side effects.  My son and I have had burping contests. Lol   I can't tell who won.... we are a competitive bunch at my house. 

    Wishing minimal side effects and a wonderful restful weekend for all!!!! 

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2012

    Mamabr, thanks for the encouragement.  I napped most of yesterday except for going to get my neulasta shot.  No pain from that yet (I did take a claritin).  I discovered that a scarf tied with a bow in back with a fishing hat over it is a nice option for me and helped me feel more normal.

    Woke to a nice surprise this morning-- my primary tumor has really shrunk. It's not so much a hard lump as a slight thickening now.  I think if I found it now I'd really debate whether it was abnormal compared to the other breast.  My axilla lump is much smaller as well.  It's difficult to even find it.

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited August 2012

    _Ann_ --

    How great to feel shrinking tumors. I think that for those of us who had surgery before chemo, it is really encouraging to hear from someone like you who has palpable evidence of the chemo working. Anyway, congratulations on shrinking tumors!

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2012

    Ann. I am so so happy for your! Shrinkage is good! I felt my mega-mass (for the unknown time today) still same. But chemo 2 is Thursday. Am "shedding" but that is it. Anyone have on-going or intermittent bone pain with the injection? Taking Claritin daily--but last night finally took real pain meds for my lower back, upper legs, and shoulder blades. I know this means it is working----but thought the SE would be only a few days. Had injection a week ago yesterday. Next one this Friday

    A happy tax-free w/end in NM. Meaning i will avoid Target and all electronic stores and office stores. :)

    Susan in NM 

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited August 2012

    Melrosemelrose-thank you, I will bring the heartburn up on my next visit. I put off eating, which is not healthy, because of the discomfort. I want to keep healthy so that treatments don't get postponed.

    Ann-That is great news on your tumor. I hope you are feeling better and getting your strength back. I have also worn the scarf and hat, seems to work better than a wig or baseball hat. But I did order some little caps from REI, about $6 a piece. My head gets cold when I'm around the house and the fleece caps are very soft. Sometimes I get those heat waves going through me, but generally when I'm at home I wear the little caps for warmth. Also at night my head gets cold.  

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    mamabr- You may want to try eating some bland foods ( ie mashed potatoes, baked potatoes, rice, baked chicken, soup broth) and eat small meals 5-6 times a day rather than eating 3 larger meals a day.  Having a little less food may help.  You may want to try drinking a little ginger ale to help with the discomfort.  Yes, you need to make sure you keep eating so you can fuel your body.  Hope the heartburn gets better soon!!!! 
  • woodstockcathy
    woodstockcathy Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2012

    You have all been so helpful! I have been on the fast bus for the past month and a half and haven't had a chance to look through all this wonderful information. I had my second treatment on July 25 and my hair trimmed with a No. 4 comb on a clipper that afternoon because we were leaving on vacation within days, and I didn't want bald spots. Well, I now have bald spots because the hair has started falling out in clumps. My nurse practitioner recommended not getting my head completely shaved because of scalp irritation. Does anyone have any recommendations on this? I would like to have it shaved ASAP so I quit looking more ridiculous than I will bald. Thanks for your help, everyone!

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited August 2012

    Welcome Woodstockcathy, The hair thing can be really hard. There are so many different things to think of. When mine was falling out in fistfuls it was so uncomfortable, it made me crazy. I took a breath and my son shaved my head. It felt kind of strange but it is what it is. It's kind of nice now that I don't have to take care of my hair. I was getting so tired that the idea of taking care of my hair was preventing me from getting out and about during the day. I tried to have fun with the final hair loss day, even though it wasn't very fun, but it's just another day in the life. I haven't had scalp irritation and using a softer pillowcase feels nice. I usually wear a fleece cap at night because my head gets cold.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    woodstockcathy- I did not buzz/shave my head when the hair really started to go.  I had my DH cut it with the 1 inch cutting guard on the sides and back and left the top front longer.  I originally made five little pony tails and snipped those off myself and let him he finish the job.  I'm heading into my #6 and last chemo next Tuesday.  I did not lose all of my pre-chemo hair and had a thin veil of hair all over my head.  Yes, there are spots that I know don't have any hair but it's okay.  I'm sure  that the nurse practioner may be referring to actually having your head shaved bald.  I can see where one might have scalp irritation after that.  You can still have some scalp issues ( ie-itchiness/ clogged hair follicles) with the buzz cut.  If you have it clip close, you will still have stubs and those may still fall out.  I know some women use a lint roller/duct tape to help with those.  I just the lint roller to remove the loose hair that had fallen off wherever on me, my clothes and my pillow.
  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2012

    I am officially 'G.I Jane'. My wife cut and buzzed my hair today and I have really short hair. We cried during parts of it, but I put on some 80's music and we ended up laughing through it. I thought I would completely freak out seeing myself in the mirror, but she did it in stages, where she first gave me a short hair cut, and then I saw that. After she cut and buzzed it, and it's kinda cute. I tried on some of her beanies, and they look cute. Had some hoop earings on (bought earlier today), and then tried on my hat with hair and wig. I won't be able to rock this hair cut out of the house (I have some bald spots, where it fell out, and am not sure I am THAT comfortable with it). My head is very airy now, especially when the fan goes by, LOL. It's definitely a little strange, because I had so much hair before, but I am just fine. The first ponytail we cut was 3 times thicker than my wife's hair. She just cut it per her own choice, to support me (not as short as me, but short). She originally saved her hair in case I wanted to have a 'hair halo' made of my own hair. I am watching a replay of the Women's Basketball game USA vs. Czech, and enjoying the fact that the 'hair drama' is now over. Going into 2nd treatment this week Thursday. Good luck everyone that is also going through this. A few days ago, I didn't think I'd ever smile about being 'bare' but it's ok now-you can get through this too. Try to keep a sense of humor...:)

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2012

    I'm a bit of a mess since AC #2 and Neulasta.  Slept most of the time since my infusion Thursday but very weak and unsteady on my feet.  Having trouble taking in fluids and food, everything is a bit sickening.  It's hard to read or watch movies because my eyes are jumping around.  Nothing to do but wait it out I guess.

  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited August 2012

    Hey guys-for those that buzzed your hair off, are there any recommendations for what to put on my short hair, scalp. I bought baby shampoo. I've not used that since we cut my hair yesterday and then buzzed it (now I have peach fuzz). It's kind of itchy now. I out moisturizer on my head. Probably not the best idea since I still have some hair, but it was too itchy. Any tips are appreciated. Thanks ladies:)

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    boobzilla-I used Neutrogena TGel shampoo to help with the itchiness.  I used it before when I had long hair and pre-chemo.  I used it sparingly and every few days.  The rest of the time, I use Aveeno Natural Baby Shampoo.  It doesn't take much to shampoo nowadays-- just a drop or two.  I bet you can use whatever regular shampoo that is for itchy scalp would work to help.  Good luck!!!!

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