Starting Chemo July 2012

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  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2012

    Hey Itsall-yes, definitely in recovery. Good, too, as I was feeling like 'mashed potatoe' brain there for a while. Definitely a little awkward with the hair thing, but in the 'big picture' I guess all we can do is try to control it as much as we can by pre-emptively cutting or covering. Haha-I too, purchased  a 'hat with hair'-it just seemed more me, and I plan to put my Team USA Olympics pins on it:) I hope all works out with getting your family used to it-hopefully they'll just accept it as part of your 'healing' for the entire journey:)

     Ann-Ariamycin (which I take as well) is known to have an effect on the heart, but for some it's temporary. My Onc told me this is the reason they periodically rescan you (MUGA) as you go through treatment. I periodically experience weird heart beats and fluttering, but it comes and goes. Good luck-hopefully it is just this one drug stressing your system a bit and it will pass. Never fun to have to worry about another thing, especially as we all weather our main storm of recovery.

    Marianne-I do get completely random shooting pains all over. Not necessarily in bones (I take Allegra and it has worked for me, as the 'bone pain' is apparently a histimine reaction, which Allegra has effectively blocked for me). But like throughout body-funny you mention 'fireworks'-that's how I described it to my partner. I'll be sitting somewhere, and all of a sudden, it just starts, like someone is pinching and stabbing me hard in random places...very strange. I think hair is different, but for my TAC regimen, my Oncologist said probably within 10-14 days after 1st streatment, but some still have their hair after 2nd and 3rd treatment. 

  • swimmom01
    swimmom01 Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2012

    Last night my 10 year old daughter started with a yucky nose and a cough. We sent her to bed with some medicine. This morning after not hearing any stirring down the hall I went to check on her. On her door I found a note saying that she was not feeling well and would stay in her room all day as to not get me sick and to leave some food and water by her door. My heart just broke into pieces and had a major cry! After a few minutes I pulled myself together and did what I always do when one of my kids are sick. I crawled into her bed and wrapped her in my arms to snuggle! There is no way cancer is going to take comforting my lil girl from me! It can take my hair, my energy and my boobs but this is too much!



  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2012

    Swimmom01 - Such a beautiful gesture from your daughter. It's amazing how kids can surprise us with their understanding and compassion. I'm glad you went and snuggled. I'm sure it gave you both comfort,

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited July 2012

    Awww, swimmom01, how sweet!  

    It's day 16 after AC and my hair is just now falling.  Last night I couldn't sleep on a normal pillow my hair was hurting so much, I had to use a neck pillow.  This morning, hairs all over the pillow and I reached up and pinched at a tuft with two fingers and out came about 10 hairs.  Eeeek!   I'm finding it kind of funny at this point.  It's going to be like having a shedding cat in the house.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2012

    A shot or two from my pin-up shoot. Made me cry like a baby today when they came in the mail. This is to remind me I can be beautiful again after all of this...

    Pin-up 1

    Pin up 2

  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2012
    Ann - when my hair came out, we had a streak of really hot weather and my cat started his summer shed at the same time.  Maybe it was a sympathy shed too. Laughing I think both the cat and I look better now than at the shaggy stage.
  • Marianne52
    Marianne52 Member Posts: 78
    edited July 2012

    Thanks to all for answering my questions. Going to get a real short cut today and will try to postpone the shave of the head till midweek. I am having a really hard time with the hair part of all this. Hope everyone has a great weekend. Marianne

  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2012

    Marianne - all the best with the cut. Losing the hair is hard.

  • Lauren423
    Lauren423 Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2012

    Marianne - I am on Day 15 (had 2 taxol treatments, needed to push the 3rd treatment back a week due to hospitalization from MRSA infection this past week) and I have not lost any hair yet or had any other SEs.  I just showered and I keep expecting it to begin to fall out, based on what I've read here.  I'm prepared now - so it's strange that I am just waiting now for it to happen.  We might be late bloomers, I guess.  :)

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited July 2012

    I'm worried about teeballmom too.  It's been 10 days since she posted.  I hope she's OK.

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited July 2012

    Had first nuelasta this morning. Starting to get achy back and leg pain. Nausea starting--darn it all. Youngest daughter came home from college for the w.end. She has not seen me in 2 weeks--since week through scans and plans and biopsies. Mom is always the strong one--in charge and in control. And, I have not told her that her step father walked out after meeting a new love on match.com. He has not been a good man for years--so she will not miss him. But will worry about the additional stress on me. Anyone remember at the end of 28 Days when Sandra Bullock is trying to pick up the horses hoof and yells " I could just use some help here"--maybe at a targeted time we could do the same. 

  • Marianne52
    Marianne52 Member Posts: 78
    edited July 2012

    Hi Lauren,

    I am on day 18 . Did have my hair cut short today but I will never be ready when it falls out. Did you get a Wig? I paid over $400.00 for it and it looks very fake to me . I am glad you aren't having side effects. Do you know if your Liver enzymes are going up? Mine are going up every week which has me concerned. Please keep in touch. We can compare notes. Marianne

  • PinkyWI
    PinkyWI Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    I had my first AC treatment yesterday, 7/26, on husband and sons birthday.  I was so, so, scared.  It actually wasn't that bad-- so far.  I have no nausea to speak of, only complaint is that my eyes are dry but that is not unusual for me, I already take drops for them.  I am taking the nausea med and so far, so good.   I was very tired last night and today took two naps -- not sure if that is a side effect or if it was just relief that I made it through the first treatment. 

    I went for my Nuelasta shot today -- so far so good with that as well.  I am taking Claritin for bone pain hope it helps.  

    I went and got my wig on Wednesday, very emotional -- and to the gal who wishes she had a gay friend to join her, my best friend who happens to be gay, went with me.  I knew that he would be honest with me.  We actually had a good time even though I broke down a number of times.  I know it is cosmetic and temporary but it is emotional all the same.  To me,it will be a reminder eery time I pass a mirror of what I am going through.  I need to turn that around and think that the bald head is me beating this bitch called BC!  I am attending the Look Good...Feel Better class and am planning on having my head shaved on the day that, 8/9, or the Friday before, this will be my take charge moment.  Not sure I want to do it on the 6th as if I have a real emotional time with it, I sure won't look good OR feel better.

    So, to those who have shared that chemo isn't that bad, thank you.  And to thouse who continue to encourage us newbies, thank you for that as well.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2012

    So I mentioned that I did some pin-ups photos before my first chemo treatment. Well, I got the proofs today and I cried like a baby. They're so beautiful and made me feel like a million bucks. Especially now that my hair is short and I'm feeling bloated and icky from my first treatment.  I only put up a few but may add some more.

    So check them out and remember, we're all still beautiful!

    http://flickr.com/gp/lifeonitsside/cx962Y/

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited July 2012
    Lifeonitsside: Great photos!  You were so smart to have the photos taken.  Don't forget that your hair will grow back, your bloating is temporary, and you'll look and feel like your old self soon.  Plus, you'll know that you're stong enough to kick cancer's butt Laughing
  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2012

    Agreed - Lifeonitsside - those are fantastic photos and it won't be long before you're back to where you were.

    Well - Neulasta so far is absolutely amazing. I feel SOOOO much better than I did at this time last round. I woke up with energy and I'm going for a run after breakfast. No feeling like I have the flu, tummy problems, mouth sores or thrush or anything. Just a bit of dry eyes and a mild sore throat. There may be some rough days next week when the white blood counts drop for a few days, but so far, this is much, much more doable.

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    Hi Everyone!

    Just checking in to say hello.  I've been super busy getting the little ones ready for the new school year.  Can't believe school starts for them on 8/16.  Gonna miss having them around all day.

    My 2nd AC treatment went really well.  My ONC said I should expect just to feel more tired this time and I do.  2 down and 2 more to go.  Can't wait. 

    Thanks to everyone worried about me.  It means a lot!  I've missed being on here and hopefully can spend more time with all of you when things slow down around here.

    Take care!

  • CityFi
    CityFi Member Posts: 95
    edited July 2012

    teeballmom, so glad to hear you were gone because you were living life! 

    lifeonitsside, thanks for sharing the pics. They're fab! My favorite is the one on the vintage sofa, but they're all great. 

    PinkyWi, smart move taking advantage of the LGFB program. You will have so much fun, meet great women nd genuinely feel better. Use that makeup everyday even when you don't feel like it. You deserve those few minutes every morning, and it can get your day off to a good start.

    Everyone, I swear by the Claritin. I have my 3rd of 4 AC infusions on Monday, and I have not had any bone or muscle pain. It's ambrosia for BC goddesses. ;-) 

    Last Thursday I asked my dad to take me to the family barber to shave my head. He's been going to him since 1959, took my brother to him, and my brother took his older son to him. I thought why not keep family tradition. After a little hesitancy - "You sure you want to take it all off?" - the barber was a dream.  Gentle, thorough and very flirty. Here's a collage of the photos I took with my iPad. 

  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2012

    Meh, 5 hour stint in ER last night. Fever of 100.9 and then all over the place. Couldn't pass stool to save my life, and was up previous night every hour in agony. Sorry for being a little detailed but if anyone has any specific tips for the 3 am 'backup', I'd love a PM if you have a sec (and yes I will ask Onc on Mon for something to help this along if needed). They put me through mill, chest x-ray, blood work, urine. White Count 6000, and no infection. Just in case send me hope with Antibiotics. Have follow up appt with Onc Monday anyway (that was to be my White Blood Cell test). It's possible I didn't drink enough that day (definitely corrected that now). Got so frustrated I downed a whole  glass of organic prune juice. Mayhem ensued in my system after that, but it did work within just 1 hour (crazy). My system has always been tricky, so I thought I was being good with Acidophilus (told it was ok, given my generally 'moody dig system) and eating really balanced (everything from high fiber to low fiber food). Just wanted to vent-5 hours to find out all was ok (thank goodness and I appreciated quick responsiveness of Onc when fever wouldn't go down despite compresses etc).  Was looking forward to Olympics (and watched at hospital and DVR at home today). Hard dealing with being 'on guard' all the time with my body-used to being healthy before all this. Thanks for listening to my rant. Second treatment 8/9. Whew. New day tomorrow:)

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited July 2012

    Past 3 days have been really down, tired and sad.  I just want to crawl in a hole and wait for all this to pass. There is so much going on in the next few months, I know I have to shake myself out of this. Fall is always a busy time. 

    I pretty much slept all day Friday. Ate a little this morning and hoping tomorrow will start turning the corner. Hope everyone is enjoying or making it through the weekend. Take care! 

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited July 2012

    Hi Everyone...

    I just finished my 2nd AC treatment and I feel great.  I feel better than I did last time.  For the first round I couldn't believe how constipated I felt  ( I'm pouring my heart out for you, Boobzilla!) I do not like laxatives because I get such painful cramps, but I eventually had to take Miralax after that first treatment.  Now I take 2 colace every day and I take a senna pill called PRUNELAX--I buy it at Rite Aid.  It is a laxative but it is soooo gentle and I feel as regular as I can.  It just seems to work and this time I didn't have any problems.  Sorry for the TMI...hope it helps!

  • CityFi
    CityFi Member Posts: 95
    edited July 2012

    Love to you, boobzilla, and glad that trial seems to be over. Hopefully, you won't experience anything worse than what you just did for the rest of your treatment. Or even that again!  

    Feel better, mamabr. Sounds like you're doing a good job of listening to your body and doing what it asks of you like rest.  

  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2012

    Mamabr-I felt this way about 3 days into my 1st treatment-it was literally awfuld I was depressed for a day or so (because I felt so OPPOSITE from me!) Coudn't believe how crazy run down I was-I felt like I was going a little insane.  I was completely annihilated, but I listened to my body, rested hydrated and just let close friends know what was happening. For me, it passed eventually, and by 1 week out I felt much better-I didn't see  the end of it at that time though-felt like the drag would never end. I am now 9 days post and feel sharp and good. Try to do any little bit of activity for fatigue-walk around house, anything-even 5 steps, listen to music on headphones, even when laying down-self soothe yourself with something you love and don't fall prey to the depression if you can-can be a dangerous spiral. If you can't, you can't (so what-my Onc says rest is crucial and during sleeping, healing occurs). It gets better-think of the end of this, and about everyone who loves you, rooting for you. I hope things get better-try to keep positive and some sense of humor (we have to because we have to get through this!). One. Day. At. A. Time.

    Madelyn-thank you so much for the tips-I really appreciate them-about to eat dinner and was dreading another 'episode' with my home spun prune juice colonic, LOL. 

    City-thanks for the words of encouragement-here's to hopin' so, definitely took notes on some mistakes I made with 1st round.

    Good luck everyone!

  • 25weeks
    25weeks Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2012

    Boobzilla- sorry to hear of your ER stint. I have the same issues/problems with regularity right now, but I've been reluctant to take more meds, but I guess I'd better take control of the situation stat.



    I'm currently at day 5 & luckily, I've made it out of the house in some driving capacity everyday thus far. I did take a nap today, but I feel like my head is full of lead. I just can't shake the feeling. Hopefully, that will be something the gradually improves as the next treatment approaches. I have some mild aching in my jaw/teeth area, & my throat is a bit sore, but so far manageable, I guess. I do have heartburn, which in my case actually causes me to eat (feels like it might soothe the heartburn), but I could stand to gain a few pounds. I generally take a zofran in the evening to quiet things down, but perhaps some Zantac is in order. ;) Ativan at night & I sleep soundly thru the night, apparently like a freight train, according to my husband. Sorry for the snoring babe!!



    I sure hope this fog starts to lift soon. My emotions are a complete disaster!! Hang in there everyone. We can get through it!



    Tricia

  • Marianne52
    Marianne52 Member Posts: 78
    edited July 2012

    City,

    Your pic's are beautiful . Hope I look as good when I have my head shaved this week. How do I find info on the look good program? Also, I think I have thrush. Is this from the Chemo?

  • Itsalltemporary
    Itsalltemporary Member Posts: 38
    edited July 2012

    Hi 25 weeks - I have been feeling the same way you do - I really don't want to pump extra meds into my body than absolutely necessary. I've been controlling the constipation with a tea called Smooth Move. Works wonders :)

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    Itsalltemporary:  I have some of that tea, but haven't used it yet.  It works well???

  • 25weeks
    25weeks Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2012

    Thanks for the tip, itsalltemporary! I'll pick some up tomorrow when I grab some OTC heartburn meds.



    :)

  • DkJenkins
    DkJenkins Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2012

    Hello ladies! I'm new to this blog. I am struggling with my AC treatments! I know I know we all are but that's why I'm here for support from people that I know, know how I feel. I was diagnosed in April with IDC stage 2 a triple negative with one auxillary node involved. Doc wanted to start with chemo first so started on taxol on May 10. Had 4 treatments of it once every 2 weeks ( dose dense) taxol for me was a breeze. My hair started coming out if I tugged on it about the 14 day after first treatment. I babied it for another couple of days in order to keep it longer and then I thought what am I doing? I am keeping my hair BUT I can't brush it or wash it! I woke up and looked like a mangy dog so I had my husband shave it on 18 day. Felt good to be done with that! All the agony spent on worrying about it sheesh! Wigs work fine for me. I had very thick long hair so actually wigs are easier haha. So back to my chemo. I started with AC on July 5. Man what a difference in the two chemos! It kicked my butt! I was in bed for 4 days! Finally made it to the couch on the 5th day! Went for my blood work and sure enough my white blood count was down. On taxol my counts never got out of range. So on July 19 I went for my 2nd AC treatment . This time the first 2 days after treatment were pretty good but the 3rd day wow hit rock bottom! And that is where I stayed for the next 7 days! I was to the point that I thought man I can't do this! This sucks! I want to call my doc and say no more! I was feeling so bad that I got to researching AC on the Internet and a stumbled across a blog of one girls journey and In reading that blog she directed me to this discussion board she thought you girls could help me. Help me to not stop the AC and that maybe I could help with anyone who has questions on taxol . I know I can't really stop the AC but it sure helps to hear from people that are going though this too. I have a great hubby, but he can't really relate not like you girls can. Thanks for listening and any help or suggestions is appreciated.

  • sduch1
    sduch1 Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2012

    Hi, I am also new to this chemo thread and typically don't post much. DKJenkins, my treatment sounds similar to yours, I've already had Taxol (with Herceptin) and I'm happy to answer any questions about Taxol (which I found manageable). I had my first AC infusion on Jul 27, which I guess is why I'm here---I've been most nervous about AC this entire time. I read a lot of this thread and the chemo tips threads prior to going so luckily i felt well stocked up by the time I came home from treatment. So far, I have bouts of queasiness and fatigue but nothing too bad. I had my first Neulasta shot yesterday and so far no pain. Mentally I am a bit exhausted after fighting through Taxol/Herceptin while still working, then recovering from BMX, by the time AC has rolled around all I want to do is rest!



    I think someone asked above, you can find a Look Good Feel Better program (usually at local hospitals) by going to www.lookgoodfeelbetter.org.

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