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  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy that photo is awesome of you and your co-worker!  Your garden is gorgeous too!  

    Allurbaddays, you are gorgeous! Bald and beautiful!

     Tpolychron, Welcome to the group.  Sorry you are here but we are all here together.

    I am feeling a little insane.  My path didnt show what i was hoping but it didnt show anything all that unexpected.  I knew I had one positive node from my biopsy but they found 4 from the dissection yesterday.  I had one margin that had a tiny area of DCIS at the margin.  My case is supposed to be presented at tumor board tomorrow if they can get the information together but I am expecting to be told that i need more surgery.

     I am still trying to process all this.  I got my hopes up recently and now they have been brought back to reality.   

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012
    I think he's doing it by choice... he never said and I didn't think to ask. That picture was taken before my 4 taxotere treatments - hence the brows and lashes which I no longer have Cry

    mcook... I too have learnt to be more forgiving of myself during this. Just wish I could be more forgiving of the bloody hospital who need to get back to my surgeon - grr !!

    jpmom.. I am not surprised you are feeling a little insane - crap more surgery..sending you {{{{hugs}}}}

    Janet my nurse navigator did say that they surgeons office is waiting to hear back from the hospital re: dates.  I told her about your ploy ckolendar and said I was very happy to do the same if I dont here back soon.  Least that did give us a good chuckle.  Now I am pissed about it again, but trying not to waste my energy on it - huh.. !!

    I am going to log off now... its 4.30pm here.    I wisn all of you a wonderful evening and hope you sleep well.

  • Soyaandpepper
    Soyaandpepper Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    2FriedEggs-I was out of the country on business the whole of last week and got a lot of catching up to do. I'm having my appointment with the 2nd MO tomorrow and hopefully can make a decision from there. Missed you guys lots. 

    Tazzy-Fantastic pic, I think its just so liberating taking out pics when you're on chemo, you look GREAT!!!!!

    jpmomof3-Sorry to hear about your path report  and the expecting more surgery, its all a roller coaster ride no matter at what stage of the treatment we're at! Hoping for a good outcome for you and that even if you need more surgery, then it should get all the cancer and clear margins this time. Let us know what your next course of treatment is!

  • mcook301
    mcook301 Member Posts: 509
    edited July 2012

    jp - I am so behind! I just saw your post sorry so hard to keep up with all this at times for me! I would be so frustrated!!!!! Hang in there! Hoping for good answers tomorrow!

  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited July 2012

    Jpmomof3, I am so sorry to hear this, and I know what it is to hope for something on this bc journey and then get thrown for a loop. My heart goes out to you; what can I say?

    BC is such a unique illness which will take its own course with its own cruel twists and turns. Every patient is different. We lose our breasts, we lose our hair, we get tissue expanders and implants, we suffer with side-effects from treatments . . . it is almost too much to bear. And still on these forums we meet women who have been through so much more than ourselves, who have suffered way more during this uncalled-for experience, and still they stay positive, they still have hope, and they soldier on. I have a friend who had a left mastectomy 7 years ago with zero positive nodes, so she did not get any chemo or rads. Recently in June she had to get a full dissection of the left axilla, because during a routine exam they found 3 swollen, suspicious lymph nodes. All 20 of the nodes that were removed, tested negative for cancer. The kicker is that now she is suffering with severe lymphedema although there is no cancer. It seems there are just no guarantees for any of us in this club. We have to roll with the punches, unfair as it may be.

    Hang in there, jpmomof3. We are all behind you. I'm sending you hugs and positive energy!

  • juneaubugg
    juneaubugg Member Posts: 951
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy that photo is awesome of you and your co-worker!  Your garden is gorgeous too!



    How about we all meet next summer in your garden for a BBQ? Since clearly this summer is a blow out for us all.



    Allurbaddays: my gastro doesnt know how that particular chemo combo (AC) , if i go forward, will effect my crohns. It's currently already A MESS! I won't go into details.



     Tpolychron, Welcome to the group.



    I'm sure I forgot so many on you. I'm psychotic now! Like Sybil!!! "ok I'll do it" vs "hell no". I see my BS for first four week post op follow up. Maybe she can help me decide.



    My Oncotype took 10-14 days to come back from the company that does them. Damn them and their 22!



    My DH and I have decided to let the idea of my new job that I was due to start on August 6th go. I can't heal and learn/excel at this job. Then what if they want to fire me since im I on 90 day probation during which I MIGHT be doing chemo now.



    My current boss of four years called today desperate to get me back there... 2 temps down and now they are just praying I do come back on August 6 and don't take any longer. It's nice to be missed. At least I have close friends and support there.



    Stay tuned on the chemo choice. Can anyone tell me how rough was their A/C treetmemts were? I'm looking at 4 every 3.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited July 2012

    juneau-I had DD AC so went ever 2 weeks.  I didn't have that many problems with it. Never got sick, took the nausea meds like I was told so that wasn't bad either. The worst for me was losing my taste. I did have some bone pain on the 4th and 5th day of tx due to the Neulesta shot. I don't know if they still give that with the every 3 week treatment.  Don't know if it helps you or not but thought I'd share it with you.

    Tpolychron-sorry your joining us but just jump on in.

    jpmom-sorry about the news, it just sucks

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited July 2012

    OMG, I posted last nite and tonite there are three new pages. Wow! Hello to all the newbies, I am sorry you have to be here, but hope you take what you need from this board. To those struggling with decisions, or stuck in the waiting mode, prayers for all of you. To those who had good news, thank goodness, I love happy news! if I've missed what you are going through, I am sending much love.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    There really is too much to keep up with here. So love and hugs to all I am forgetting and welcome and strength to those joining us.

    2friedeggs - I am speechless. What a horror story. Only saving grace is the note you sent. So glad you found someone good to work with!

    Tazzy - thanks for sharing all your pics. All just lovely. I really should get into gardening. The outside of our house is so bare...

    Allurbadday - beautiful pic! All you ladies posting your pics are helping me not be so scared of my eventual hair loss. Thank you!

    Jpmom - sending you super duper hugs. So sorry you have to deal with this. I feel pretty fortunate that my surgeon didn't feel like a lumpectomy was an option for me. It just immediately put me in the mindset of mastectomy and I never looked back. I hope you can get some rest and figure out how to move forward.

    Tpolychron - welcome, and I'm sorry you are here. While I can't really compare my story to yours - I feel your pain. I am 37, married and have two boys - ages 4 and 2. My husband and I had pretty much decided we were done with our family - but the thought of a 3rd (girl) was still lurking in the back of our minds. When we were in the consult with my surgeon and she was going over all the items - including the likelihood of future infertility - she asked if we were done with our family or if we wanted to consider harvesting and freezing. My rock of a husband suddenly broke down and played a what if scenario of something terrible happening to one of our children and us wanting to have another. I lost it then. I can't imagine having to go through those kinds of thoughts and decisions in your shoes right now. But just go with your heart and do what feels right for you. And know that you are not alone. Come here to bitch moan and cry about it whenever you need to. I keep telling my friends and family that I never knew how amazing it would be to write to complete strangers and get responses back from them. This is a great group of ladies here - strong and amazing - and we're all here to help you. Sending you giant hugs!

    And to those of you just getting over or awaiting surgery - know that there is a light at the end of the surgery tunnel. I am officially two weeks out of my surgery and had a full day of running errands (with my mom driving me around), followed up by me cooking a real home cooked meal for my family all by myself. Yeah for the small victories!

  • websister
    websister Member Posts: 1,092
    edited July 2012

    Like everyone else before me has said, wow, what a lot of activity to keep up with!

    Tazzy - loved the pictures and when Juneaubug suggested a BBQ in your backyard in a year's time, I had to smile as I pictured us all sitting around singing Kumbaya ;)

    jpmomof3 - sending hugs, disappointing news to hear - hope you are healing well, you are a strong woman

    Ramols - sounds like you are doing really well postop, especially having had bilateral surgery - way to go!

    SoyaandPepper - I hope you like the options presented by the 2nd MO tomorrow; I also will be seeing my MO for the first time tomorrow also

    Welcome, Tpolychron, Ivylynn and CinnyK - thank you for sharing your stories with us, we can definitely relate

    2FriedEggs - also appalled at your earlier treatment, glad you took action for yourself and found yourself a new surgeon

    McCook301 - I think a therapist is a great idea; I found out today that our cancer center provides access to a psychologist free of charge as part of their services

    Better go now, that was a lot to read through, hadn't planned on taking so long and my kitchen awaits clean-up - take care everyone.

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited July 2012

    My thoughs are with all you girls.  Especially those who are just getting started. I just wanted to say a little about the road ahead. So.  On August 11th I will be 6 months from DX.  Strange.  In some ways I feel like I've been on this road forever, in others, I can't believe so much has happened.  Done with "active" treatment, Zeus willing. Had an LX and rads.  I'm seeing an LE therapist who is helping a lot with my poor swollen trunk and arm. Had my first attack of cellulitis.  Let's not do that again, eh? I'm taking tamoxifen and am noticing few SE's. I walk daily and swim 4 or 5 times a week and have lost 20 lbs.  Still need to lose another 80 or so.  Determined to get rid of fat that gives demon estrogen a place to hide. I'm finally getting a good night's sleep most nighta, so I'm feeling much better than I did for a long time.  So.

    Now the next big hurdle is getting through the follow up visits, mamos etc.  If I, a huge wimp and die hard anti diet and exerciser can get through this and get myself motivated to exercise?  I can do anything. It is as they said. Doable. I hope all of you find a smooth path that is "doable"

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Got my hair cut to prepare for this journey. My long curls have turned into a really short hair cut. Mom says it looks good and wished I had done it sooner. Love my mom. Found a scarf at sears for $3. Finishing up my fertility treatments and off to put in a port next week. I'm just beginning my journey and it's nice to read everyone's post to see what lies ahead of me. Thank you for welcoming me and I hope to get to know you ladies better. (just added you to 'my favorites') lots of prayers are coming to all of you having a rough time right now :)

  • juneaubugg
    juneaubugg Member Posts: 951
    edited July 2012

    Ramols: I too managed too cook a whole meal with one hand!! Finally...not take out my DH tried but cooking is not his forte! I do regret it a bit.... I'm sore. Mabe another week until I try again.



    Good night all ... Hopefully I will be able to find a comfortable position.

  • DigitalCowgirl
    DigitalCowgirl Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2012

    Wow!  The posts from the last few days have touched my heart. As I sit here with tears streaming down my cheeks I realize how strong and courageous every single one of you are. Your stories are sad, incredible, confident, happy, honest, funny and REAL.

    I am so thankful I found this group.  Your kindness, willingness to share and help others amidst managing your own personal chaos are astounding.. My sincere thanks for your support, inspiration and friendship.

    Love and hugs to all. 

  • juneaubugg
    juneaubugg Member Posts: 951
    edited July 2012

    Digitalcowgirl- welcome home, you're in the right place...

  • chrissera
    chrissera Member Posts: 79
    edited July 2012

    Wow!  A lot to catch up on this week!  Since the transfusion on Saturday I feel like myself (sort of) again and have probably been doing too much...  I gave my bedroom a seriously needed deep cleaning Monday and yesterday spent the day with my Mom - took her to the movies and lunch and shopping.  It was almost normal and she really needed it.  She has had a hard time with my diagnosis as I have two brothers who passed away from cancer 10 and 20 years ago.  But she has been supportive and helpful the entire way!

    I found out a week ago that my cousin's wife was diagnosed with BC.  We don't see each other frequently but were together at a 60th anniversary party.  We chatted a little and I passed along my info (as well as this site) in case she needed to talk.  Well she called yesterday and I spoke to her for a while.  She had her first neoadjuvant chemo last Wednesday and was looking for some secrets to help manage the SEs.  She actually said I am a motivator for her to get through this as I seem to be handling it so well!  if she only knew!  I am no expert but I shared some of my methods to handle the SEs and told her that my only secret is to stay positive in our thoughts.  We did not choose this journey, but I see it as (hopefully) a temporary bump in the road that we can get through.  When I was diagnosed, my mind decided to handle BC like a project at work.  We have a problem, there is a goal/solution at the end and there are steps we need to take to accomplish that goal.  I keep telling myself that -- it's what gets me through the days.  Now that I am no longer working, it is a little harder as I feel a little defeated that my body would not let me continue working at a job I loved.  But I keep saying that is temporary and I will be back to a semi-normal life soon.  

    Thanks to all for the comments about handling my family.  I have been doing what needs to be done and leaving the rest alone, including dishes in the sink which makes me crazy!  It's only been a few days so we will see how they do! I think I might seek out a therapist to talk out my frustrations, that might help me manage the stress better.  Although the transfusion wasn't too bad I want to avoid another one!

    To all of those just starting this terrible journey You are all in my prayers and just remember we are all beautiful no matter what our physical changes may bring!

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2012

    Good morning ladies. I hope everyone is healing well and recovering from chemo etc. I am 2 days post op. I slept better last night. I could sleep sme n my left side where the port was taken out so that helped. The pain has gotten much less. I haven't taken anything since before bed last night. I went for a short walk this morning.



    I havent heard yet whether my case is going to tumor board at noon today or not. I am anxious to get the next plan of action. If I have to have more surgery I just want to get it done. I am disgusted by the fact that there is very likely still cancer in my body. The minuscule amount left in my breast doesn't worry me as much as what is likely still in my axilla. I hate it with all my heart and want it all dead. I am very disappointed that the chemo didn't kill it all and am scared that I am down to just the radiation and hormone treatments now. I had all kind of dark thoughts during the night. I was going to give my scarves away originally but am not now.



    I am feeling better physically but I have a ways to go mentally. I hate you breast cancer.

  • tina_jason
    tina_jason Member Posts: 147
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy...I love the picture! 

  • tina_jason
    tina_jason Member Posts: 147
    edited July 2012

    jpmomof3....feeling the same as you after surgery.  I wanted it to all be gone.  My biggest worry is the axilla too.  I can't stop thinking of the possibility of it spreading while I am trying to heal from surgery.  I wanted to say with a clear conscience that I was cancer free after surgery but I cannot!  I was believing that the chemo would take care of it all and that when they went in for surgery they wouldn't be able to find any.  Didn't happen!!! 

     I am glad you are feeling better physically.  For me the mental part is a daily process.  You're in my thoughts and prayers!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    jpmom (and tina_jason) - while I know there are many reasons to hate the idea of getting all your nodes removed, would you consider it for peace of mind? I'm at Memorial Sloane Kettering and my surgeon said it is pretty much a standard practice for them there as part of a mastectomy when at least one node is known to be positive. I won't lie - the recovery from that part of the surgery is in fact the hardest - and as I told my mom this morning, I'm very mad at my left arm for not cooperating with me in terms of getting back into shape. But I am certainly gaining more range of motion and stregth in it every day as I continue my exercises. And while we all fear lymphedema - I think the numbers are actually in our favor to not get it. I imagine having them all removed would allow you to get all that hated cancer out, no? I say this knowing I didn't do a whole lot of research - just followed the advice I was given since my Dad was in the room during my consult and I trust his judgement, since he has spent his whole life researching cancer and cancer treatments. And I realize the path that works for some of us doesn't work for all of us - but I thought I'd share my experience so far. I should add too that after hearing in my post-op path report that I had 6 positive nodes - spread across all three regions of nodes - I am breathing much easier knowing my surgeon just scooped the whole f'ing mess out of me... Anyway - I hope I haven't said too much and I hope you start getting some of the information you need to come up with a plan for moving forward that works for you. Sending you hugs.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Jpmom... thinking of you and sending hugs... I hope you can get to a better place mentally soon.  Its hard and yes, cancer sucks and we hate it - lets all yell together WE HATE YOU CANCER - BE GONE WITH YOU NOW.... !!

    Juneau:  I think that a bbq at my place next summer is a great idea - you are all invited Smile  What a blast that would be.

    Ramols - you sound like you are doing so well... not the first time I have said it and wont be the last, you're an inspiration to us awaiting surgery.

    Tpoly : good for  you getting your hair cut short - it really does keep us in control.

    Digitalcow... welcome. I still sometimes sit hear crying reading the posts and that's OK Cry

    Chrissera - sorry to hear about your cousin's wife - happy you gave her this site.  It really has kept
    me sane at times.  Great news you are feeling more yourself since the transfusion too. 

    I have my surgery date - August 2.  Guess the threat of singing Kumbaya and camp songs worked.. maybe it was the threat of you Juneau too Wink  I meet with my anaesthesiologist and nurse on Friday at 9.30.   So now I can officially get nervous and stressed out - thanks for waiting with me ladies.  Love you all.

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2012

    Hey Ramols. Believe me that thought has definitely crossed my mind. I like the thought of getting the cancer out of me. It seems logical and emotionally better. But I have done quite a bit of reading and talking to experts about this. The research shows that there is no difference in recurrence and survivor rates when a full axillary dissection is done versus just taking a few with the sentinel node procedure as long as chemo, radiation and hormone therapy is being done. My right arm is the affected arm and I am right handed. Lymphedema is really an unpleasant thought for me too, although I would rather deal with lymphedema than a recurrence or death of course. And if the research showed that taking all the nodes out helped significantly I would definitely risk it. I would chop my damn arm off right now if I thought it would cure me, I hate this cancer so much.



    I still haven't heard anything from my docs. I am betting that my case didn't go to tumor board today. I am about to start harassing my docs now.... Wish me luck.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Wishing you luck jpmom...threaten them with going there and singing campfire songs until you get an answer - seemed to work for ckolendar and me. Wink

    CANCER F*CKING SUCKS !

  • juneaubugg
    juneaubugg Member Posts: 951
    edited July 2012

    Ladies: I've been crying for 3 days trying to ce to some decision which I could find peace in. Wouldn't you know i decodrd to go to the nail salon. Wanted to paint fingers and forget for a while. Last minute decided to get toes painted. Woman next to me had breast cancer and same chemo last year.  We talked for thirty minutes. She said it goes by faster then you'd think. She now has super short curly hair. She said its easier to get ready. Ok god!! I'm scared, I'm terrified, but I hear you...!

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited July 2012

    Seredipity! Sometimes you can't miss the message or the way it is delivered! LOL. Glad you made a decision you can live with.

  • juneaubugg
    juneaubugg Member Posts: 951
    edited July 2012

    tazzy- you're fearful of what I've just gone through, and it wasn't HALF as bad as my mind projected.



    And I'm fearful of chemo which you have triumphed through.



    Pps: possible new boss called today Nd wants to Put my health first with a start date of NOVEMBER 1 st! Hes Just Gettimg the ok from HR. This is an offer I first got may 21 only 3 days post DX. I AM STILL ANGRY MOST DAYS AND HATE THIS FUCKING (screw it i said the F word) DISEASE ... But Just For Today; God has restored my faith.
  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited July 2012

    Yay, juneaubug, good luck.

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2012

    Good luck juneau, chemo really wasnt all that bad for me and a lot of people.  you get to know the pattern too.  

    I just talked to my BS.  I am going to have a re-excision in a couple of weeks.  I have to heal enough to get another mammo.  they want to see if and where i still have calcifications because the DCIS part of my FUCKING DAMN BREAST CANCER (there said the f word too...) seems to correlate pretty well with the calcifications.  He didnt think it was necessary to go to a mastectomy. He just wants to see whats still theree on mammo to better plan the re-excision.  I feel better knowing the plan.  

    I updated my avatar finally with my photo from this past weekend.  I am putting away the scarves and feel just fine going topless.   

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Juneau : its the fear of the unknown.   Chemo wasn't too bad to me - just make sure you take all the meds they tell you.  We're here for you.  And like jpmom said you get into such a routine with it.  Just make sure you hydrate lots and lots and then some more.

    jpmom... you rock that 'do'.  Glad you now have a plan of action in place.

    Thinking of you all and wishing nothing but the best for us all.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited July 2012

    jpmon-I can't wait to have that much hair. I know it sucks to have to have more surgery but now you have a plan so that must help.

    Digitalcowgirl-glad you found us for the support. Just jump in.

    Tazzy-Glad you got a date set!!!!! Now we all feel better.

    Got my drains out today! The nurse went over the path report. IDC (we knew). DCIS (didn't really know) and 3 out of 13 nodes (showed on mamo). Tumor was as large as when I started chemo. I know the AC shrunk it but with the taxol it expanded. It did show necrosis inside.

    It's out and that's what counts now.

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