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  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited July 2012

    2FriedEggs and everyone else doing recon-you women are amazing. At this point there is no way they could make me do more surgery to get boobs. I think I'll stick to just throwing a fake one in the bra and moving on. I've always been extremely modest (won't even change in front of DH most of the time). So now that I know what the scar looks like I'll just get dressed and ignore it. I'm very good at ignoring things that's how I got in this mess to start with.

    ramols- I'm with you I look when necessary then deny it all. Really the worst part is where the drains come out. That is just freaky and draining them makes me queasy. I have to look away when DH does it.

     Hope everyone was able to get some rest.

  • ivylynn
    ivylynn Member Posts: 11
    edited July 2012

    Discovered lump late May, went to Primary Care Dr June 2, Diagnostic Mammogram on 6/5, Needle Biopsy 6/6 and received a phonecall  Friday 6/9 at 3:00 the path report showed 2cm IDC Grade 3 ER+ PR+.  I had two days to sit on the fact I had a cancer trying to kill me and there was nothing i could do about it until Monday morning.

    Lumpectomy on 6/20 with clean margins, but node biopsy came back positive 2/10. 6/21 my Onc ordered eight rounds of chemo beginning asap.  Getting port installed tomorrow.   Onc wants to begin chemo next week.  This is like a runaway train that won't stop and I have no control.   Cut my hair really shot last week.  Went from long hair to a pixie cut. 

    My life is out of control right now.  I'm stressed, angry and completely overwhelmed.  This board gives me a since of peace.  You actually talk about the big "C" here.  My family, friends and coworkers really can support this. I feel like I'm headed to the Gas Chamber.

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited July 2012

    ivylynn so sorry you have to ride on this train but glad you are with us. There are so many great ladies in this group and all have had a variety of treatments etc so there is always someone to share their experiences with you or to just listen to you if you just want to rant. This whole stinken disease is so overwhelming and stressful particularly as you try to get the treatments all lined up and started as well as waiting on test and pathology results. Believe it or not, there eventually comes a time when although you hate the Big C and every thing thats going on because of it, you manage to become a little more accepting of it. That's not to say that you won't still have emotional times where you need to cry or rant. Everyone here has their moments so please feel free to join in. It sounds like you are taking control of it a little instead of it taking control of you which is such a good thing-you did get your appointments with the docs lined up, you got your lumpectomy and you cut your hair.   There are lots of wonderful ladies here who have completed their chemo or are going through it and I'm sure will besharing shareing the fact that it was doable and give you tips. I'm glad you have supportive family and friends. The reason we are all on here is pretty much because we all "get it" having gone through it ourselves. As wonderful as our friends and family can be, they don't always get it and sometimes we don't want to have our lives with them be just talking about cancer. We are here for you.

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2012

    Juneau, it's not that chemo wouldn't be an option again if you needed it but they would have to find different drugs in some cases to use. Plus some like Adriamycin are toxic to the heart and you can only have so much of it in a lifetime. Plenty of people do chemo more than once unfortunately... It's a really tough decision when you are that young. Do you throw everything we have at the cancer or is it overkill? My decision was easy I had no choice really. But I really don't think you can make a wrong decision in your case they both have advantages and disadvantages. If only we had goggles that let us see into the future...

  • juneaubugg
    juneaubugg Member Posts: 951
    edited July 2012

    Ivylynn: I hear you. It happens so fast and at first you think it'll be one type of surgery and your life will go on and then you find you are suddenly in a world no one understands the language or can feel your pain, anger, etc..



    My friend who had double MX is BRACA I told me when I was diagnosed in June (she was in March) that "the only way through it, is through it". God that sucked to hear, but honest.



    Slept like crap last night. Couldnt even toss or turn onto my super inflated right breast!



    Thanks JP. That hairs looking good. ;-)

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2012

    Cindy and ivylynn, so sorry that you guys are in this situation but welcome to a great group. This is the one place I find where I can talk about everything openly and have people really understand. We curse, cry and rejoice, rant, rave and celebrate the many milestones in this process. No me wants to be here but it helps to have people that are in the same situation.



    Ivylynn your cancer sounds very similar to mine. Did you have positive nodes?



    2fried, that was a horrible story about that PA. What an idiot it shows how careless she was to not read through that whole report before coming in especially when dealing with such serious problems. She should be ashamed.

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited July 2012

    Juneaubugg I was the same way last night (and about every night for the last couple weeks) couldn't sleep but I have 2 that are super inflated so side sleeping is not an option; infact about the only option I have is sitting up to sleep. lol We need to have like a middle of the night skype party or something for all non sleepers but whoa I wouldn't want to scare anyone as I sure wouldn't be a pretty sight lol.

    Had to go to the MO for blood work this am and fasted when I didnt need to. So as soon as I got out of there I headed in search of a cup of much needed coffee. Lo and behold, the Krispy Creme light was on and it drew me in for hot donuts and coffee. Wonder if that's on the "cancer" diet. lol I figured if I gain weight from the donuts I will just have to blame it on the arimedex and stress, Right? You know though, I don't know how accurate my weight can be anymore since the dmx- I mean you are a certain weight with your real boobs then you go and remove them and get expanders, then they keep adding fluid. I think the only thing to do during this time is to have a free for all, food wise, until the squishes are in and my foobs will be a constant weight again. I say this all knowing that so many of you  like JPsmom and SoyaandPepper are being so good and working out, walking etc.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Aruba.... Good luck for Friday .

    Ramols - just love ya. Your posts always seem to say the right things, and what I am thinking (the denial I am talking about and that's before my mx).

    Juneau... 8 scrambled... ha ha ha. That's a lot of ostrich egg

    Oh!... I slept like crap too.

    2Fried..the phys-ass said that to you... OMG! That's just awful - you would think in their line of work they would have more bloody compassion. Stupid cow. And yes waiting is the worst... whatever we are waiting for. My nurse navigator attempts to put my mind at ease every time I speak to her or email (which is lots lately). My BS's office has put the req's through for my scans but cannot request surgery date until I have them... so the hospital and their scheduling are at fault. I actually work for the same hospital so know what a scheduling nightmare that dept. is. I will call again in an hour - I will be that squeaky wheel. Plus one thing I don't have is a lot of patience - hence the name Tazzy Hope you slept well. Oh! and I would've gone for the donuts too

    Ivylynn... welcome to the group - sorry you are here, but I agree with everything 2Fried said. It's a roller coaster of a ride, but we do come out of it the other side. I am 4 ½ weeks PFC (post final chemo) do you know what protocol they are suggesting you will be on. Let us know - someone here will be able to help you. It is totally doable.

    How you doing today jpmom?

    Hope you are all having a relatively stress free, pain free day.

    PS: why can I post pics from the internet and not the pics I download myself..hmm? I will get my techy DH to look into that (Oh! that that PS is post script, not plastic surgeon.. ha ha ).

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Whoa... that's one big ostrich face - ha ha!!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Finally - lost these are for you as requested.    This is the back garden.  

    Sorry they are so big ??? 

    garden 2012

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Here's the front... we inherited that cement block wall... so I made up the pots and will add to them.  

    garden 2012

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    OK - last one.  this is in front of my house... used to be 3 huge old cedars which blocked out so much light we chopped them down. 

    garden 2012

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited July 2012

    Super Taz  After that phy-ass story it got worse. lol After the phys-ass said I worried for nothing, then said whoops I'll get the dr, the doc came in and said it was "just" alh but ordered an mri on the other side and then an mri biopsy. That came back alh also but it took me up to a couple weeks before Christmas. So the bs told me she wanted me to have a lumpectomy (actually 2- one on each side) and I said please schedule it as soon as you can. She scheduled it a month and 1/2 later and says "enjoy the holiday-you don't have cancer" you just have ALH in both breasts. I'm thinking why then is it so important I have this surgery. So Jan comes and I have the excisional and they set a post surgical date a couple weeks later for me to go get the results because the doctor won't give them over the phone -"too impersonal". It was a LONG ride but since she assured me that I didn't have cancer, I told my DH not to worry about taking off work etc to go with me. So I drive a good hour alone in a horrendous storm, go in and I am told that the BS wasn't in but that the other phy-ass would be checking me and going over my pathology. By now we're in beginning of Feb. She comes in and is like "lets see, oh there was an upgrade; they upgraded the ALH to LCIS on one side but don't worry that's a precancer. Oh and they upgraded the otherside to IDC but don't worry its a low grade." I'm like" what? so I have cancer??!!" and she's like "yea but I'll have the doctor call you Monday and explain it and take it from there." So I'm heading out, tears streaming, and the one girl at the desk said, every thing ok? I said " no the phy-ass just told me I have cancer and now I have to drive home in a blistering storm and wait until Monday to talk to the doctor. I would much rather have gotten those results in the shelter of my own home, on the phone, since I'm just going to talk to the doc on the phone anyway." Then she looks down at my chart and says "oh, I just noticed,I know you prepaid your surgery but the insurance came back and said you owe us another $300 deductable because it was considered 2 operations." I said I'll have to deal with that next week. She said well "technically, I'm not supposed to allow you to leave until you pay your balance or give us a credit card." I had been going to this place for 8 years twice a year, just got told by a phys-ass I have cancer and they are worried about me paying a balance. I just said " I want to see who ever is in charge when the doc isn't here because I am not messing with this today." Finally some girl came out from the back and handed me an invoice and said " just mail it in when you get a chance" I called my dh and cried the whole way home . He was so sad for me and so mad at the drs office , left work and was waiting with a big hug when I got home. The doc called that Monday and said I'm sorry I wasn't feeling well on Friday; anyway your adh was upgraded to invasive cancer so I am having the girls set you up appointments for scans to make sure you don't have cancer in other parts of your body and with "plastics". I was blown away! I decided when I hung up that I was now done with that entire office and went to a different BS who was wonderful. The new bs said "did you say you wanted a mx for sure" and I said "no I assumed I had no options" since the other doc didn't get into anything else. She couldn't believe it and said radiation ( since the lumpectomy was clean) was an option vs a mastectomy etc etc . Even though I eventually chose the nsdmx I felt like the new bs gave me choices plus she was just so caring. So I sent a check and faxed the old bs a very short "youre fired, I've found a new BS" note. I was amazed after going there all those years that she never contacted me to find out "why". Guess in her heart she knew dang well why. To add salt to the wound, the radiologists office where I had the wires put in for my lumpectomy, sent a note saying the results of my recent mammogram were "normal" not too long after but to make sure I had one next year .  Lol what a fiasco but fortunately  those times are in the past and I'm looking forward to hopefully my last surgery for a long time when I get my squishees. Great job on the ostrich pic. Makes me want one for a pet! lol  and Taz  DO BE A SQUEEKY WHEEL! Get a surgery date.

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited July 2012

    TAZZY OMG the gardens beautiful! I'm so jealous!!!!

  • firestorm531
    firestorm531 Member Posts: 176
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy your backyard is WONDERFUL!  I would love to spend a few lazy afternoons with you and be surrounded by the beauty :)  Be squeaky, it works ;-)  And for a very brief moment - I looked at that Ostrich and thought 'hmmm, I wonder if that's how I'm gonna look in a month' LOLOL  Bald-ish and hair growing in the wrong places...  made for an amusing moment :)

    2fried - wow.  so unacceptable, so completely unacceptable...I would be all over the medical board with that one!  But I'm so so glad you found a true medical professional to treat you with dignity and respect and compassion.  grrrrr, a few chemo fart bombs would be fun to unleash in the old doc's office LOL  I know, I know - I'm such a brat!

     jpmom -  I tried to find those goggles but all google found were beer goggles and tanning goggles ;-)

    Ivylynn - I'm so sorry you've had to join us :(  I went in for my baseline and oops, there it was!  This is a great group of ladies, so you're in good hands :)

    lostinmo - I never would've guessed you for the squimish type, its kinda cute ;-)  It'll be a great day when those drains are out...  And you're not alone in the 'ostrich' club.  After my mammo, I didn't call the hospital back until after they had been blowing up my phone for over 2 days (people and computer calling my house/cell).  And when I did call back in, it was to tell the Director of the Breast center that they all must be confused (computer included) because I'd already had my appointment and didn't need to see them again for another year.  LOL Oh well, what's done is done :) 

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Oh 2fried... that is horrendous. I cannot even begin to imagine how your mind was working that one out.... I am surprised we didn't read about you being in jail for assault on the phy-ass and their office.  I am really - WTF ???   And it is great you sent that note - love it.. and its great you now have a caring BS.   We are going through enough without having to deal with dumb arses who have no idea.    Happy it turned out to be a 'happy' ending - if you know what I mean.

    Just called my Patient Navigator again - she's as frustrated as I am and is going to call the hospital and BS office to see what's going on.  

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited July 2012

    Firestorm I don't know if you were on here a while back when I said I thought my expanders were no longer the size of 2 fried eggs anymore but probably the size of ostrich eggs or something like that. Good ol'Tazzy managed to come up with an egg comparison chart that was so fitting. (page 16) She manages to come up with wonderful pics however I won't go into the last pic challenge I gave her, but she had trouble with that one-didn't you Tazzy?  thank goodness though, LOL

    Tazzy that's good though that your navigator is flustered too though' atleast she is trying

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy-your gardens are wonderful. I love all the colors. Everything here is brown from lack of rain.

    2fried-that's awful. They shouldn't be allowed to have an office if that's how they treat people. Good for you on the note..I might have thought of sending in to the paper to share.

    firestorm-I am only sqeamish if it has to do with me. I did fine when DH came in (about 8 yrs ago) and said I cut my finger and need you to drive me to the hopital. I of course had to see..his finger from the middle knuckle up was in his hand. I got him to the hospital and they reattached it.

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited July 2012

    Oh LOSTIMO all I can say is OUCHHHHHHH!!! The reattachment worked ok though?

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited July 2012

    Hi all! I've been lurking for a week or so but wanted to check in. I get a bit overwhelmed at the amount of communication here, it's just me, it's nothing personal at.all. I'm so sorry to hear of complications, asshat PAs, and not getting the best news you wish you might have. And I'm so glad everyone keeps posting their good newses too!

     I just had my 3rd round in the BGC this morning so I'm slouched in my bed. I think the Emend and some other stuff really knocks me out. Better to be knocked out than barfing!

    Juneau - have you discussed the chemo question with your gastroenterologist or whoever helps you manage the Crohn's? I would recommend that. I can control my celiac (autoimmune also) very well by diet but Crohn's I think is another autoimmune-beast altogether. I am currently on AC at three weeks intervals. Just finished #3 in fact. My MO put me on AC>T because this program tends to have somewhat lower gastrointestinal and skin side effect. Even so, My guts are pretty uncomfortable for the 1st 4-5 days, then they bounce back with everything else. However, they are not painful enough for me to want to get another precription, say, an anti-spasmodic. Also, my tumor was grade 3 my oncotype score was 32 (or 34? can't quite remember now...) so that made chemo a no brainer for me. Yours being of a lower scor: I would definitely discuss with gastroent. It sounds like you could use a bit more help in processing this decision. Good luck!

    p.s. I am almost completely bald now. I'll try to update my avatar...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Well ladies....Trying to find a place to fit in and I think this may be the place.



    I'm 34 years old, single, never married, no kids, and scared SH@TLESS! I was diagnosed June 28. I had a one month European vacation planned leaving June 29. When I got the news, I panicked and got on the plane. Once in Greece, reality hit me...you need medical care! I stayed for a week, then turned around and came back. Once I got my MRI and saw my oncologist it really hit me how scary this is. In one week I have to decide whether I want to have kids one day, whether I want to take a leave of absence at work, cope with losing my hair and my breasts. Just feels like tooooo much. I start chemo next week so decided to get my long curly hair cut short. I can't bare my hair on my pillow or falling out in the shower.



    Although I never wanted to be here, you ladies seem amazing and courageous. All my friends keep saying, "if you need anything..." what I need is someone that understands. I'm glad I found you.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    firestorm... I am sure you'll look just as cute however your hair grows back.   I thought the ostrich was cute too.

    Allurbaddays: being slouched in bed are chemo #3 is fine.  do what works for you and hang in there. 

    Lostinmo's poor DH - ouch, ouch ouch  ewwww.... happy the reattachment worked.

    Yes I was happy to hear my navigator is also flustered.... well if I dont hear back by 3pm today I will call again.

    thank you all for your compliments on the garden.  I get so much pleasure from it... keeps my mind off other stuff.  If i didn't have it, I'd be shopping and baking more Smile

    Back to the garden for a couple of hours. 

  • Soyaandpepper
    Soyaandpepper Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy-Beautiful garden!!!! Hope you get a date for your surgery soon.

    2FriedEggs-That was really terrible what happened to you with your last BS! Thank god you now found another BS that you love!

    Ivylynn-Sorry you have to be and yes its a roller coaster ride! We're here for you though and you could scream and rant all you want with us! We understand exactly what you're going through. 

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited July 2012

    SOYA  where have you been?! How are you ? Have you made a treatment decision? Between you and Juneau having to decide chemo or no chemo I feel so bad that there is no simple solution. Anyway we missed you bunches

    Allurbaddayswillend    welcome back! after being in theBGC you desearve all the slouching you wanna do!

    TPoly   sorry you have to be here too. I could see how this diagnosis would put a damper on your vacation. At the same time there had to be a thought that maybe if you went ahead and got on the plane, maybe you could leaver the big C behind, never to be heard from again. Anyway we afre glad you found us; friends mean well but as we said may times friends and family mean well but they just don't get it nor do we want to keep pounding them with info until they do get it so it is great having each other. 

  • Aruba
    Aruba Member Posts: 543
    edited July 2012

    Wow what a lovley garden Tazzy.  I should put a pic of flowers I planted on here but not sure how....what an escape..love it.  LostinMO...What did he do to the finger?  OUCH~   Tpolychron-Welcome..you are amongst friends that get it.  I still feel as if I am a newbie but yet have known these ladies for quite some time.  I had lupectomy and SNB on Friday and go to BS surgeon to hear the path and learn the path I will be on.  How long does it take to get an Onco test?  I wonder if that was already ordered?  All I know is they took 1 node and looked ok in surgery but that is not path report so have to wait and see. 2Fried..what a mess you had..glad things seem more sunny side up now!  Hugs to all~Aruba

  • ckolendar
    ckolendar Member Posts: 23
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy when I was trying to get surgery scheduled (after it had been postponed once) I told the scheduler she had 48

    hours to come up with a date or I was coming to the office and singing Kumbaya and other campsongs at the top of my lungs until I got a date or arrested! she called with a date 2 hours later...try that...or send Junebugg!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    first of all... I am laughing so hard ckolendar - that is a great solution to the problem.   Maybe I should bring along Juneau for the ride anyway... sure she has some frustration that needs to be unleashed. ha ha ha ha!

    tpoly - sorry you have to be here... glad you found us though.  We get each through with lots of hugs, love, rants, tears... whatever it takes.

    allurbaddays... you are beautiful.   It never cease to amaze me how beautiful us women are with bald heads.

    Aruba... sorry cant help you re the onc tests.   Bet someone here can though.

    Soya & Juneau....I agree with 2Fried.. if only there was a simple solution to your dilemma..hope you can come to an answer soon.

    Love & hugs all xx

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    funny story (least I think so).   I visited my work place one day before chemo and one of my colleagues walked in.   `Hey` I shouted out `we have the same hairdresser`... with that one of the women took this picture of us both.  His is his choice. 

    same hairdress?

  • 2FriedEggs
    2FriedEggs Member Posts: 640
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy That's a great pic! Is he doing it by choice? We forget that alot of guys with male pattern baldness don't have a choice-A guy I went to highschool with was completely bald by 24 years old. But you're right for the majority of guys it is a choice.

  • mcook301
    mcook301 Member Posts: 509
    edited July 2012

    Hello Ladies,

    Wow once again I have a lot to catch up on! I have been working through out my treatments and this week has been a really busy one! I work with all men so go figure they never let up at times:)  At first when I found out about my BC, I emotional could not go to work but now it helps me to feel a bit of normalacy in my life but I do use the "C" card when there are days I just need a mental break :)  I biked on Sunday with a friend and it felt great to have some energy back again after Chemo!

    I read stories about ice cream above and I way over did that during Chemo but I do not regret it at all:) I gain a few pounds but now I am working to get some of that off before surgery. I have learned to be a little more forgiving of myself during this journey.

    Tazzy - I am in the same dam boat as you with not knowing surgery plans. I have a consult app with PS on the 30th but have to wait till aug 9th for surgery consult. I am ok with this as long as waiting does increase any odds for me after chemo stops! Back still hurs so waiting to get an appointment to check that out so getting a little frustrated but trying hard to stay positive. BTW I love your garden and other photos!

    jpmomof3 - Thinking of you and wish you a speedy recovery! 

    I meet with a therapist every two weeks - She is awesome and I wondering if she get worn out listening to me talk because as soon as I get into her office I just talk and talk. She told me I have a hard time relaxing and love to fire fight! Well shit I could have saved myself some money on that one:) Seriously she is awesome and so helpful during this journey. I would suggest to anyone that needs to have someone to open up completely to hire one! Look she has done wonders for my writing skills:)

    I have read everyone's post and thank you for sharing about your experiences! You are all so strong! You help me so much with sharing about your experiences and emotions to know that I am not alone in this figh

    Biig hugs to all of you!

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