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Hi all. Sorry this thread git knocked off my favorites list and I am 6 pages behind, it will take a while to catch up. Much love to all.
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jpmom-your right hair is hair even if it is white. I had a lot of white before so most of it being white shouldn't surprise me. I tell my 14 yr old it's white because of all the things he did when he was little that scared me to death. Like climbing on top of our trailer behind DH when he was 4, stacking chairs on other objects to reach the top of the refrigerator when he was 3. We will be thinking of you today.
lisa- I like your reasoning for the housekeeper.
juneaubugg-hope your are able to come to a decision about the chemo. I haven't been given any choices really so I don't know what to tell you other than do what you believe is best for you.
firestorm-my Brother and SIL brought us out dinner last night. Roast and potatoes. My DH told them thank you we might starve if people weren't bring us food out. My DS jumped in to say "no we wouldn't I can make quesadillas" . And he can if all you want is a flour torilla shell with shredded cheese inside thrown on the George Foreman.
Tazzy-I hope you get your date soon. The wait is going to start driving us crazy for you!
I seem to be having more pain in my arm than I am my incision at this point. It is about to drive me crazy.
Well back to see if I can get some sleep.
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Junneabugg, I had almost the same profile as you, but my score was 23, and I am 60. I opted out of chemo, and my MO said this was a reasonable choice, and my RO said she believed I had made the right choice, when the risks of chemo were weighed against the benefits for me. It's the toughest decision I ever made, but I am at peace with it.
Susannah -
Thanks all. Spent the last 12 hrs crying. SO TIRED. Trying up remember when my DH and I kist sat around laughing. We used to do that a lot. We'll be married 3years on Halloween; first time for us both. Doesn't seem right. I'm just do angry and dad and scared and in pain and and and.... I don't have to explain myself here. Thank you for that. And in two weeks I am to start a new job....wherever will I find the energy?!
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Juneaubugg, it's such a tough decision. How highly hormone receptive are you? My MO indicated because I am 99% receptive I will get more bang for the buck from the Tamoxifen than the chemo.
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jpmomof3 - my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family today, looking forward to hearing from you soon
juneaubug - is there any possibility of seeing another oncologist for a second opinion?
Lostinmo - I hear you about the arm pain, I'm told it can take a long time, mine was really aching yesterday
Tazzy - hoping your call today to the nurse navigator has good results re: date
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Good morning ladies! My daughter and I are heading out of town on Wednesday so I can finish my recovery at my mom's before heading off to Camp Chemo, so today I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row before I forget just how many ducks are running around ;-)
Tazzy - I hope you get your date, like, NOW!
lostinmo - *hugs* I'm sorry you're hurting... now hand over the roast, it sounds delish!!! LOLOL
jpmom - *hugs* you're in our thoughts...touch base when you can.
Off to shower and then DRIVE to Wallyworld... I haven't driven in a week, this should be amusing ;-) Take care ladies - have a great morning!
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Good to hear from you again Jazlaumir... happy your move went well. Good luck for tomorrow... thinking of you. Please let us know how you got on.
Juneaubug... lots of hugs being sent your way. Hope you find solace soon. And its OK to cry... we are going through some really scary shit. Hang in there honey.
Moonflwr... don't you hate it when that happens ??
Lostinmo... hope your pain eases in your arm. I have heard that from so many people, that if they have nodes removed and/or SNB that is more bothersome than their actual mx.
SusannahW - welcome to the thread. That's all you can hope for is to be at peace with the decisions you have to make. Wonderful that it worked for you.
Websister... sending you and lostinmo positive healing vibes for the arm pain/aches.
Firestorm... hope you've got those ducks in order - nothing worse than unruly ducks running around.
Jpmom.... Thinking of you today - check in when you can.
To every brave sister out there - have a good day, any fears, anger and just plain being pissed off...come here and share with us all.. just don't bottle those emotions up. And don't forget to try and see the beauty in each day. Wishing you all a wonderful day.
My docs will have until Noon today and if I haven't heard from them, they will get another call. Until that time though I am going grocery shopping and cleaning my bathrooms ?! Woo hoo dont get much more exciting for a Monday -
juneaubugg-I feel the same way you do.I'm also trying to figure out if I want chemo as well. You will see my stat. at the bottom of my post and its really similar to yours except mine is also HER2+++. My doc told me that with ER+,PR+,the benefit of chemo to my reoccurrance is 12% and the benefit of Tamoxifen is 8-10%. Since chemo and tamoxifen is completing benefits then if I do chemo and tamoxifen, my total overall benefit will only be the greater of the 2 which is 12% max. I don't know if I want to suffer the side effects of chemo (both short and long term) for an additional 2-4% at most. My doc said he'ss be fine with me just doing hormone therapy and Herceptin. What did your MO say about your benefits as to chemo and hormone therapy?
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Soyaandpepper: I think my final decision is going to be to NOT have chemo. I've been through enough and I am waving my flag at their percentages. Tamoxifen will hopefully be enough to keep this bitch from coming to knock on my door again. I also have Crohns Disease which is an auto immune disease of the colon and small intestine; it would just pour salt on the would.
That all said, i am still struggling to 100% get to a place where I'm sure, as I was with lump vs UMX. I hate this. I hate every summer wasted, fun lost, painful moment. I'm sorry bad day.
Tazzy- I'm in a mood today. Whats the number of those people who won't give you your damn date?!
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juneaubugg, I am 45yo and had a 1.7cm tumor that was removed with clear margins and 2 clean lymph nodes. My onco score was a 28.. right in the middle of the middle. I talked with my BS and made up my mind even before my onco score came back that if I was mid- or high that I was going to do the chemo no matter how much it sucked. Tomorrow I'll be having #2 of T/C and will be halfway through the treatments. (Yay!) My hubby is sweet and I love him dearly, but if he says "WE" one more time when talking about chemo, I'm gonna deck him one. As in "WE are doing pretty well with the treatments... not many side effects."
*I* was the one who made the final decision on letting them put this poison in my body because *I* am the one who has to live with it. That's the only thing YOU need to think about. What is best for YOU and what can YOU live with? Especially with the Crohn's. That is a horrible disease all by itself, I can't imagine what throwing chemo into the mix would do to your body.
In my case I am going from a 27% chance of recurrence to a 6% chance. God forbid, but if it does return I know I did everything I could do to stop it and it's out of my hands.
I wish you peace and comfort while you make your decision. My BS told me that this wasn't gonna be easy, but I was gonna make it through and she's been right so far. -
Tazzy, thank you for the welcome! Like all the rest on this thread I am praying for you to get a date for your surgery so that you can get a little peace. -
Well my parents came out to visit and bring us food. They confirmed what my husband thought he heard the BS tell him. That they couldn't save the nerve in my armpit. Guess I will have to learn how to deal with the permanent numbness.
Trying to schedule my drains to come out. I'm well below the 30ml already so my friends can leave anytime.
Tazzy-tell them you want a date set and you want to know now!
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I might get to get the drains out Wednesday!
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Hi all,
I am back home from surgery. It went well. Everything went very smoothly. The worst part was getting the sentinel node dye. That burned like hell. I wasn't at all numb at the nipple from when they did my wire localization.
My sentinel node still had cancer. I knew it was positive from the biopsy in February but I am very disappointed to find that there is still some there. It means I did not get a complete response from the chemo. I got a good response because I know that it shrunk from having a post chemo MRI but I got my hopes up that it would be better than that. My DH is trying to calm me down and I know I am loopy from Vicodin and fatigue and stress but I am scared out of my brains. I even called my MO. She calmed me some. It is rare to get a complete response she says though I think she may be downplaying it to calm me down. I will not have to have more chemo. Which is good because they took my port out and if I did need more I would go completely berserk. I never fucking want to be bald again. I already knew I was having radiation and hormone therapy so no surprises there. But I was hoping the news would be better.
I will get a more complete report tomorrow, they just looked at things during the surgery on the sentinel node. The one other node that came out with the sentinel node was negative (yay!). But they decided to take out three more. I will get the report on the lumpectomy and margins and the other nodes tomorrow. My husband is a pathologist so he is going in himself to see everything with the pathologists at that hospital.
My pain isn't bad. My mouth is dry as hell probably from the damn vicodin. My itty bitty titty doesn't really look any smaller though that is likely due to swelling. Shit they didn't even give me an ice pack. I can move my arm quite well. I have a numb spot in my armpit. Not sure if that is from any injected numbing medicine or from the surgery. That probably helps the pain. I am just wearing a simple sports bra and a comfy t-shirt. My skin is orange from the sterilization fluid and my pee looked like papa smurfs (ie blue) for a time or too.
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Hey lostinmo, glad you are doing so well, sorry abou tte nerve but a lot of that sensation can come back eventually.
Juneau. How old are you (don't answer if you don't want to:) You have the hardest decision to make and I hope that you can make it and feel good about it. It sounds like you have decided not to go with chemo at this point. Hopefully when that day that you were supposed to start chemo passes you will know even more that you made the right decision. You will probably have a gut feeling that tells you if it is right for you soon if you haven't already. Did they tell you a percent that they expect chemo to help? Chemo is no joke. Especially with your other medical issues I am glad that you are thinking so carefully about it. It really sounds like things are very borderline for you on the benefit of chemo, otherwise they would have pushed it.
As much as we hate to think about it, fact is things can recur with or without chemo and you will be monitored very carefully from now on. And doing chemo now actually makes it harder to do chemo later. There are some medicines you can't take twice. And cancers actually can become resistant to medicines just like bacteria can to antibiotics. I am not a MO and I am not you, but I think I would decide the same thing as you based on the little I know about you. All I can say is trust your MO and trust your gut. Also did your case get presented at tumor board? If not you may want to see a second MO and see if they agree. It may make you feel better about your decision.
I am kinda loopy right now. I hope I haven't said anything dumb. -
So glad your surgery is now behind you, jpmomof3. I've been thinking about you all day... Sometimes having a husband who is also a pathologist is good and sometimes not so good if you know what I mean. My DH works in a clinic as their IT guy and has access to informtion that sometimes I wish he didn't.
Anyway, I just wanted to send you healing vibes and, don't worry about any typos, we all make them even when we didn't have surgery earlier in the day. As far as curse words, sometimes that is all you CAN say! And being loopy -- you deserve to be loopy for a day!
All my best to each of you!
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juneaubug Dang so sorry you are so down about all this. Can't say I blame you. Maybe a 2nd opinion would help? It is such a bummer to lose the summer to this crap.
jpmom bummer about the node but it seems great that it was only that one? Anyway hope you get to feeling better. If the loose tongue (as you put it) helps then unwind that puppy.
lostimo won't it be great to lose the drains- dang nusiances. sorry about the armpit nerve but if its anything like mine it doesnt seem to be as numb as often anymore.
Taz! Did you get your date yet? I'm working on my exchange date for my fluffy squishees.
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Jpmomof3, hoping you get good news from the path report tomorrow. Sending you positive thoughts and prayers.
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Jpmomof3, warm
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Hi Ladies,
jpmom... responded to you in the July surgery thread. Oh! and as for curse words... thats all they are is words - if it makes you feel better then curse away. I know sometimes that cursing can make me feel better.
In fact I am doing lots of it lately as no I dont have my date yet... thanks all for asking. Very very pissy about it today - so cleaned house - WTF ??
Juneau... I may just send you their number. But seriously, I hope that you are able to get to a decision which is good for you. And dont apologise for bad days.. that's why we are here eh?
Lost... yay for getting the drains out.
2Fried... double yay for fluffy squishies... now there is a visual
So I have emailed and left a message for a date and I want it NOW. I will call again tomorrow if I hear nothing - dont expect to hear now (5pm) but tomorrow I will be on the warpath... someone in that office or the hospital will listen to me, even if I go down there... wont be pretty.
I know its not worth getting worked up over, but I really feel as though I've been left hanging and after six months of having my life mapped out now I have nothing - except an approximation of a date - dont like it one bit. Plus I'm scared shitless this cancer will start growing again - which I know it wont... but the mind is working overtime.
I wish each and every one of you a peaceful evening. To those that need it positive healing vibes.
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Tazzy, I hope you hear soon. lost, glad those drains are out. 2fried, is it really time for squishes, already? Wow. And Jp, on Mythbusters they did an experiment on whether things hurt less if you cussed. Guess what, it was true. People held on longer if they were cursing! So cuss away, there is scientific proof its good for you! much love to all
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hello, my name is Cindy, I was diagnosed with IDC on June 8th. My initial pathology show a 1.9cm tumor triple positive grade 1/3. Opt'd for lumpectomy which was performed Friday July 20th which included extraction of three of my lymph nodes. Kind of sore, but know it could have been worse. I was told by my surgeon that she believes she got clear margin and where it was close; she took a little extra good tissue. Great News!!! I have to wait until 7/26 to get the pathology report and determine whether I will have to undergo chemo in addition to the 6 1/2 weeks of radiation. I am encouraged by the support each of you provide each other. Needing a warm hug of encouragement too. It is amazing how our priorities change when we are shaken to our core by cancer. Hope to return the support to others that are facing this valley.
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cinnykay-sorry your going through this but glad that you have found us. We are here if you need us. We share the good and the bad, rant and celebrate. Whatever is needed. Sending you warm (((hugs))).
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yay... for cursing when we need to
Welcome Cindy - as lost said... we are here for you and each other.
Hugs to you all tonight xx
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cinnykay, I can relate and we are close to same timeline on things. I was DX on July 12 and had lumpectomy and SNB same day as you. I too am a bit sore but not as bad as I thought...pretty good bruising under the left arm where they took a node. I hope to get to see the Dr. on Friday before he is gone for vacation for two weeks. Called today and they will get back to me with date and time. I was told I may also have an onco test to help determine if chemo is beneficial if all nodes are clear...so still lots to find out. Trying to stay calm as we have taken the first step with surgery to fight this awful disease! Let us know how it goes...the support and education on this site is fantastic. you are not alone! ~Aruba
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jpmom - welcome back home; glad to hear it went well (nodes aside). fingers crossed for a good path report. rest up!
juneau - sending you super duper big hugs; hang in there and know you'll have made the best decision you can for you and your personal situation
tazzy - sending you patience in amounts that no person should have to muster up; i'll be putting out scheduling vibes for you!
lostinmo - good luck with your drains; it feels so very good when they are no longer dangling at your side!
To those of you who have been talking about looking at the results of your surgery after dressings come off... my best advice is a healthy dose of denial. When they took mine off, I looked down and got a bit of a glimpse. Later on at home I took a quick glance in the mirror. I initially felt a pit in my stomach, but then I brushed it off and pulled my shirt back down. My dressings have been off since Friday afternoon and I haven't spent a whole lot of time staring at the new me in the mirror. I look when necessary and then pretend like nothing happened when I am clothed. I figure - I'm doing my exercises and following all dr's instructions, and I'm planning to work on reconstruction and tattooing in a way that works for me - so why bother obsessing over how they look now? A little denial never hurt anyone, right? Good luck to those of you dealing with the raw emotions that go along with this piece of post-surgery. Know that you are still beautiful - and actually, even more beautiful than before, as you have gained new strength and power that will radiate from the inside out. We are as beautiful as we feel...
Rest up, sleep well and feel good beautiful ladies.
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oh, and jpmom - your comment about the ringtone you have for your kids cracked me up. We are big family guy junkies in this house and happen to love that bit where stewie calls for lois over and over again.
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Welcome Cindy.... Sorry you found yourself here; but glad you are.
jpmom: I'm 44. I had NO IDEA that if I did this now it wouldn't be a treatment option if god forbid I have a recurrence. I've seen what you have all dealt with, with respect and admiration... And I THANK YOU douch the just returning home from your surgery to take the time to respond up my problems. Rest up, get some sleep my friend.
Tazzy- I'm serious; I'm your girl.
2fried (should I say 8 scrambled??) I had a 100 cc fill today! Ouch!!! This here coconuts gonna split!! One more fill and I'm at my NEW size C boob size ( from my natural small.
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Cinnykay so sorry you had to find us but we're here for you.
Moonflwr Yes I can't believe it is almost squishee time!It's just a matter of scheduling surgery for me now! Yea!
Mythbusters-one of the best shows ever! Can't believe I missed the cussing one. lolSuper Taz They must be saving the best for last with you! I know how you feel though. When I needed my biopsy last fall, I waited and waited for a date then they scheduled it about a month and 1/2 later. I called to see if they could move it up and the phy-ass(should put the it on the end but she didn't deserve it) said" it will be fine, it's really not that long to wait." Then after it was done she came in to give me the results and said "see all that fuss and worry for nothing" I said "oh wow really?" and was all relieved. Then she looks at the pathology again and says "oh I'm sorry you do have atypical cells. I didn't see that. I'm going to send the doctor in" then ran out of the room. That was the beginning of all this crap. When I would go for more results she would never come near my room or even look at me in the hall after that. But rarely does a doctors office get how hard it is to wait for tests, wait for surgery, wait for results etc etc.I've been going thru this crap since last september and that was just all the tests, biopsies, lumpectomy and nsdmx. Crazy how long they keep you hanging sometimes! Hope you get a date soon and that it's a relatively close date-not out of any fear the cancer will grow but just because it's so hard waiting.
Ramols I had thought I would really be upset when the bandages came off but I had healing issues with my incisions that I had to address so I just got down to business with the ointments and bandages etc. I don't think I "really looked" at the whole picture just each wound". I guess for a bit I was in denial too but then would get relieved when a small part of an incision healed-baby steps. Then one day I did just look and laughed at myself because my chest reminded me of the 2 fried eggs. I guess enough time had passed. Think you do kind of go thru denial a bit then acceptance and maybe even a tad bit of relief. One thing though that always puts it into perspective for me though and makes me feel so blessed is that my mom was only 40 and they gave her the very mutilating halstead mastectomy in the 60's and she had no reconstruction options what-so-ever. Poor mom, if only she was alive for me to tell her that it's only now that I really realize what she went though.
Juneaubugg make that 8 scrambled Ostrich eggs! Aren't these things the hardest, weirdest things ever? I think I just had my last fill today and mine are SO popping out under my arms-I swear if I wore sleeveless shirts I would have brush burns on the upper part of my arms from them rubbing against these things! lol They don't budge a bit either. I got 100cc a couple times then 75 but I just got 50ccs the last 2 times. Nothing like trying to sleep on your back with a hard heavy boulder or 2 on your chest huh?
Well ladies going to go give sleep a shot. Probably be right back up in a few but we'll see. Hope every one can get some rest and dream of the day that all this crap is behind us.
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