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  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited July 2012

    Well, happy to report I had a better night's sleep last night!  I woke up probably 3 or 4 times, and woke up early (probably 5:30 a.m. or so) and couldn't get back to sleep.  However, the sleep I had was much more restful.

    The darkened room was FABULOUS.  I've heard having complete darkness facilitates melatonin release.  Add on to that that I took one melatonin.

    I used my cold pack in the pillow and switched it out during one wake up/bathroom break (using another cold pack I kept on my bathroom counter in a small cooler).  I really feel it helped soothe me and help me fall back to sleep.

    So, it wasn't perfect, but definitely better.  Maybe I was just so tired from the prior several night's poor sleep that I would have zonked out no matter what.  I'm encouraged, though, and will keep doing what I'm doing!  

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited July 2012

    Re waking up hot.  My GF told me about a "chillow" that her sister gave her for her BD to combat night sweats.  I guess the idea is that its under your pillow so everytime you flip your pillow you get a cool side.  She says she liked it so much she bought one for her feet!  She ordered it online. 

    I was at a neighbors last night and we sat on her front porch enjoying a nice cold glass of wine during the thunderstorm.  It was just lovely and boy did we need the rain.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited July 2012

    mlb, we talked a little about the chillow earlier in the thread.  Glad to hear your friend finds it helpful - I'm still assessing how the cold works for me and how long these things are gonna last...may invest in the chillow pending that.  Thanks!!

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited July 2012

    Totally miss my old life too! I find solace in my belief in passing things forward and believe one day I will "come full circle" and it will all be helpful to someone, or many someones. But I struggle daily with the journey before me...I had NO idea bc was this horrendous!

  • slak
    slak Member Posts: 179
    edited July 2012
    Hey Lisa and Stacie, I'm with you.  No one can understand how the effects of this can impact our self-image.  It is really rough sometimes.  Some effects were as bad for me as I expected and others not so.  My eyebrows/eyelash loss was not as traumatic as I thought it would be since I didn't lose all eyebrows.  My eyelashes all disappeared but I wear glasses so I don't think it was so noticeable.  They are now returning (in most places), so the time period of loss was not as much as I expected.  I gained 13 lbs on chemo and was really unhappy about it (was under the mistaken impression that I'd lose weight when I started).  I have since lost 4 lbs and think I will get back to a good weight with a little more effort.  My nails are looking uglier by the day and that makes me mad sometimes.  Why can't this be over with?  Through this I hadn't realized how much of my self-image was tied up in my hair, though...I am still struggling when I look in the mirror and see a different person looking back at me.  Is there such a thing as PTSD with BC?  I think so.  I am convinced we will all get through this and be stronger on the other side, but sometimes it is important to be able to vent when it feels overwhelming...especially to people who understand!
  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited July 2012

    Thanks, gals. The mixed drink didnt help at dinner .

    And when i saw my tongue was white-ish this morning, I tried to remember who has it PFC- dance trance or melrose? Why would this start again????

    Gotta get spirits up, going away for two nights to wine country with DH. First getaway in 6 mos. I'm just down and worried about exchange surgery aug 7, thinking of postponing it.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited July 2012

    Slak my docs says we all have PTSD after bc. I run a PTSD Program for soldiers and recognize symptoms in myself. For example, I had high anxiety driving past my cancer center one day. At work we use Cognitive Processing Therapy, CPT. It has 12 sessions and can be completed in 12 weeks. I plan to start OP therapy post RADS and go through the protocol myself. It is important to insure any therapist is trained in evidence-based trauma therapies. There are others.

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited July 2012

    this could be a darn good idea, Stacie. I have heard of CPT. May look around here to see where it is offered. I am having pre-PTSD about my exchange surgery coming up, plus post BMX and chemo and changed life PTSD. I also had one of those difficult childhoods with violent parent and my therapist says BC triggers OLD PTSD too.

    where did my life go? will a new normal appear? I had 3 great days (energy as blood normalizes) and then down, down,down. 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited July 2012
    lisa - it's me who still has thrush, now almost 6 weeks PFC.  I had diflucan at 4 weeks PFC, and it almost went away, but at 5 wks PFC I had my Herceptin only infusion...it came back with a vengeance the day after.  Herceptin lowers your immunity some, so I suspect since I hadn't kicked it fully, and it took hold again.  I've called the doc's office today, but haven't heard back yet.  Hoping to get a full round of Diflucan to kick it once and for all.  Doc only have me one day of it before.  He is concerned about my liver, but I'm really getting sick of having thrush this long, so I'm willing to take it several days. 
  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited July 2012

    Yep lisa CPT could benefit you overall. If you already have a therapist you could ask "do you have formal training" in CPT? In my opinion, therapists think they are good at everything...so the word "formal" means "classroom". It is only a 2 day course. Then you might ask "how many patients have you gone through all sessions of CPT with?

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2012

    kjiberty:  I take Midnight before bed with my sleeping pill and then if I wake up in the middle of the night I take it again.  I have taken midnight before without my sleeping before my dx  I like the idea of chillow.  May need to try that . Hope you sleep better

    dance: sorry to hear about the thrush. Hope it clears soon.  I have taken melatonin for years to try to sleep.  You just can't take it 10 days before any surgery I am told.  There are lots of brands to try, some alot cheaper than Midnight and most of them work and it is too damn hot for herbal teas!   Oh, took my first Tamox pill in the AM because I was worried I would not sleep!! Go figure! Lol.

    slak and lisa and ladies: Looking in the mirror with my hair trying to grow back makes me feel like I am in my eighties! Very few eyelashes, a wig that does not fit well. I think it hits all of us now and then. I started a book CBT for dummies!  Hoping it helps. I just take things one day at a time. 

    lisa: hope you are feeling better!!

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited July 2012

    What is CBT for dummies?

    I have taken my arimedex 5 days in the morning. Can't tell what or if it is affecting anything. A friend told me she takes it at night. Now I am confused. My sleep goes in phases. Half an ambien last night, did ok but awoke a lot, dreams, which I rarely had before. Sigh.

    Will I take it now or wait till bedtime? I'll decide in 2 minutes.

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2012

    lisa2012  I will trade.  What is CPT never heard of it.  CBT cognitive behavior therapy.    Oh,  stopped ambien because it kept waking me up in the middle of the night. I am on restoril now and sleeping much better. Just FYI  You might want to take armidex in the AM if it is causing sleep issues.  There is a whole thread on Armidex also just FYI too.  I have been taking stress vitamins, magnesium and calicum for my mood swings.  Hange in there..

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited July 2012

    CPT =cognitive processing therapy. It's a type of CBT specific for PTSD.

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2012

    Stacie- Thanks for the abbreviation lesson! I guess I was close.

    Hope everyone is doing well as can be expected!

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    Stacie:  Do you think I should into that for my sleep problems?

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2012

    kijberty: I do not think it would hurt!  Neither would melatonin for now.  Hope you find something that works for you.

    dance: how are you doing with your thrush?  Hope it is better

    This was my better day. Even with the pain of all my port came out today! Yipee!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited July 2012

    Lezza - you got your port out today?  Awesome!!!!  That must be a great feeling!

    Thanks for asking about the thrush.  I've been on Diflucan 3 days now, and it is somewhat improved.  I keep anxiously checking my tongue in the mirror throughout the day, LOL!  I sure do hope this kicks it, b/c I have no clue otherwise how I'd get rid of it.   

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2012

    Dance- Thanks!  It is a great but painful feeling to have that off my chest! LOL!  I do hope you can kick that thrush's butt!

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited July 2012

    My port comes out tomorrow.



    Kjiberty-I don't know the source of your sleep issues but I know they are a symptom of PTSD. Treating the PTSD should improve all symptoms.

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2012

    Stacie- good for you getting your port out tomorrow!  Congrats! I do hope it is easier on you. I had to take vicodin twice today for the pain.  I was told to rest easy for three days as well.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited July 2012

    Lezza - thanks!  Hope it is less painful soon!

    Stacie - wow, you too!  Congrats!

    I'm a bit jealous of you all getting your ports out, but so, so happy for you!  I'll be there one day, too!   

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2012

    Dance:  You will be there soon!  And we will be happy for you then too! Just one day at a time!

  • vjm
    vjm Member Posts: 79
    edited July 2012

    Hi Stacie - yes it's sure good to be on the other side. I just figured out you started Living Life Hang Out. Feeling stronger every day and like many others working on emotions, replenishing, restorative yoga, lots of massage and self care. Finally able to eat and taste food!!!! Herceptin on Monday and starting Tamoxifen on August 1st. Have enjoyed some holidays and family despite side effects and fatigue. All in all I am on the up and up! Sending everyone love and joy xo vjm

  • vjm
    vjm Member Posts: 79
    edited July 2012

    Sending you hugs Lisa! Don't apologize for your meltdown.... if my DH says I am sensitive one more time I am going to hit him with a nonviolent communication book!!!! I am emotional ++++ - when someone asks how I am I start to cry.... working on that! vjm

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited July 2012

    Vjm My motto on chemo for my family was "Don't give me no feedback".

    I also started a lumpectomy, chemo, and RADS "hang out" thread. What can I say? Misery loves company.

  • Husker123
    Husker123 Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2012

    About time I check in.

    My PS will take my port out when I do my exchange surgery Aug. 29th. I wish the thing was gone now but I can wait. Yay on everyone who's gotten theirs out.

    I'm really hoping my year starts to get better. Some of you know that I lost my Dad last week. The funeral was yesterday. It was a good send off for him but I'm sure going to miss him.

     Got home & found a letter in the mail from my insurance company. They denied my appeal for the Oncotype testing that they refused to pay for. I'm taking the letter to my MO on Tues. Pretty much it says that in her records she sent them, she had already decided that I was doing chemo & that the test was investigative. There's $4175 that I didn't want to spend. I guess I'll wait to see what Genomic has to say about it.

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited July 2012

    husker123: I was sorry to hear about your dad.   I do hope Geonomic has more positive words to say about the test. Something does not sound right.  You have been throught alot this year so it has to get better for you.  I had to wait till after my exchange to get my port out. I will be thinking about you now and until then and sending hugs.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    Husker:  I am so sorry to hear about your dad.  Hopefully, Genomic will help you out.  I can't believe your insurance company didn't pay for the test.  It's even covered by medicare now!  Makes no sense to me.  Sending you hugs and prayers.

  • vjm
    vjm Member Posts: 79
    edited July 2012

    Husker123 - sorry for your loss. Take good care at this time! vjm PS when I hear about insurance coverage it makes me grateful that I live in Canada during my treatment! 

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