Alternative Treatment

Sweetbean, as far as I can gather Abigail thinks a lot of things are estrogenic and Gary thinks that BC patients should take baking soda, melatonin, D3 and orange juice.

yep, that's him.  good article at the wellness institute (?), dr royall rife

Orange juice?  To me that doesn't fall in line with an alkaline diet.  Oranges are very acidic and have a lot of sugar which also converts to acid.  Drinking the juice is giving you a strong dose of sugar and acidic.  IMO it would be better to eat the orange in it's whole form for the vitamin C content, but there are other whole foods that are also good sources of vitamin C and don't have that high sugar content of the orange.

That's interesting about the juice. I've been told by my nutritionist not to drink juice but eat the fruit because of the sugar levels.

I was told years ago when I was hypoglycemic to drink juice because of the sugar in it Now that I'm fightin prediabetics thanks to chemo not to drink juice, but an orange is ok.

Kira, how did the chemo cause pre-diabetes? I have some glucose issues to, which is why I ask.

The difference between drining just the juice vs eating the entire fruit is in the pulp and fiber that you get when you eat the whole fruit.  With the juice you are getting concentrated sugar with nothing to neutralize it.  I would rather get my vitamin C elsewhere.

sweetbean unfortunately it is true - sugar is filtered through animal bones to help make it white.  this is why there is white sugar that is specifically marked "vegan sugar".  just one more reason to avoid sugar!

glad to know this, grace d, learned this long ago in jamaica, wasn't sure it was still true.  like floride, from sewer processing plants (also?), I don't know why they think we need to have it white,  would still be a drug, & bad as sweetbean says.  juicing some stuff can spike blood sugar too I've heard

If I didn't come to the Alternative threads I would never have learned that, or known that I needed to know that.

I got to 55 and honestly did not know that.  Thank you for sharing.

Manuka honey from New Zealand is said to be the more antibacterial honey in the world, I just ordered some and some maple syrup, but mostly I use agave and stevia, the stevia preferred by us is in liquid so it tastes much better than the powdered or coffee or cereal or the extract for baking.  Here's some rough info on it.  We ordered the raw 10+ http://www.naturalnews.com/035959_manuka_honey_healing_medicine.html  Until best for you, but am trying this too.

Dunesleeper: This is so true about the contradictions regarding the herb Pueraria Mirifica. However, I am going with the studies that have shown that the herb acts as tamoxifin in the body with out the side effects of tamoxifin. I feel good on it. No more hot flashes at all.

I recently ordered Chastetree Berry Extract in bulk, am taking that for hormone balance, along with an oil combination for skin of pink grapefruit oil and hycrysinin oil in carrier oil, again for balance. Eat black beans cooked in seaweek to soak up excess estrogen. Also do a lot to support thyroid and adrenals. And after a lot of research on natural progesterone cream, I have decided to continue use of it, vaginally applied so it acts as the eprogesterone suupplied by ovaries.... have learned that the bioidentical progesterone will fill the progesterone receptor (am ER+ PR+ 90%) and stops the estrogen from doing its very bad thing, see more on threads for natural progesterone on bco bcz don't trust myself to re-explain all of it, but I decided to use it and wish I had not been frightened off of it for this entire year, after what I know now.

All this to avoid the drugs, they wanted me on Tamoxifen then I was told I would take Arimidex due to post meno an age, but I chose not to take either.

thinking lately about the contradictions or about them:  for instance dates are estrogenic but also alkaline

The sugar/bone char thing, gross? If you're a vegretarian, probably. The bone is burned so thoroughly that it is charcoal and no longer considered an animal product under kosher law which is very strict about theses things. Then again I eat liver and pâté, so I'm not too disturbed by animal products. I am grossed out by chicken, raw,on the other hand.

Caryn