Starting Chemo July 2012

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  • Moonwillow1010
    Moonwillow1010 Member Posts: 25
    edited July 2012

    Good morning group! Happy Friday! 

    I am now on the one week to go countdown. Trying to focus on today rather than too far ahead! I was wondering if you can share your Chemo Kit lists with me. I've been going through posts this morning and there is a lot to sort through to find out what others take to infusion. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

    Love and strength to all! Have a super weekend! 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    Moonwillow1010 

    The Moderators have a forum thread for Newbies that provides a lot of information and help.  There are two links for Chemo kit lists there.  Hope this helps get you started:

    Chemo tips for Newbies thread link:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/785189?page=1#idx_1

  • Truffles
    Truffles Member Posts: 13
    edited July 2012

    Good morning everyone! I'm now on day 5 after my first adriamycin/cytoxan so thought I'd check in. The day of the infusion I drank massive amounts of fluid and kept my hand in a warm sock along with a heatpack to keep my veins plump, and the IV stick went well (although in the wrist, very achy spot). I'm hoping to get through this without a central line (port or PICC) so I'll keep you posted how that goes.

    There was an initial delay to send blood counts and liver tests (all came back fine). They started with two pills of Zofran, an infusion of a half liter saline followed by the IV Emend - by that point my arm was freezing from all the cold fluid so we wrapped it in warm blankets which helped a lot. Then the gowned gloved nurse did the adriamycin push directly from syringes into my IV - my goodness that stuff is RED. And FREAKY looking, especially with the nurse in biohazard apparel. She watched like a hawk to make sure my veins were handling it well. She, my friend, and my husband became a constant chorus of "does it feel alright? no burning? no pain? how you doing? no burning?" Thanks guys, but I'd be the first to shout if it felt wrong!! One small collateral vein high in my forearm turned red, so she stopped the push and called over the nurse specialist to check it out. They flushed it with saline and since the main vein they were using was unaffected, they kept going and finished the push fine. After that they hung the cytoxan which took an hour - during this I got a very odd full heavy feeling in my nose and mild headache. My husband gave me a couple Advil and the headache wore off quickly after the infusion ended. All in all this took 4 hours, but the bloodwork added an hour. In the future I'll be getting bloodwork before I see the MO before infusion, so it should be 3 hours. The last indignity of the day was getting my first Lupron shot in my left buttock - jumped a little at the stick but wasn't sore afterward.

    The first night I felt pretty crappy - like sudden onset of flu and extreme fatigue. I took a compazine to try to "get ahead" of the nausea but this was a big mistake - compazine and I do not get along. I got extreme vertigo as though the room was swaying side to side on a ship. Didn't sleep well that first night since had to go to the bathroom literally 7 times with all the fluids to flush out the cytoxan! Day 2 I actually felt fine, very little appetite but only a minimal buzz of background nausea. The evening of Day 2 I took a Claritin and gave myself the Neulasta shot in my belly, which stung quite a bit more than I'd expected! I may not have given it enough time to come up to room temp, which I'll definitely do next time.

    Day 3 was the pits. The bone and muscle pain from Neulasta combined with nausea from the Emend fully wearing off left me on the couch all day. I managed to take a 30 minute slow walk but otherwise was down for the count. Zofran did help somewhat, and Ativan helped me sleep well that night.

    Day 4 and 5 have been MUCH better!! Very minimal nausea, helped quite a bit by Zofran. I was also having heartburn (which I've never had in my life) but took a generic prilosec last night and feeling well this morning. About to go for a long walk and feeling good! The small vein that turned red now looks brownish, but the main vein they used in the wrist is fine without any lumps or redness (they told me to watch out for phlebitis). No mouth sores yet but I'm on the lookout!

    Just wanted to share my first A/C experience for those of you facing it soon! Hugs to all, we can get through this

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2012

    Thanks for all the sharing. I should be starting around 7/16. Have an appointment on 7/9 to set everything up. But suddently finding myself terribly depressed about the whole thing. I've been handling everything pretty well as I have an incredible support team of friends and a wonderful boyfriend who all take beautiful care of me. But this week, it's just really hitting me. So reading about what you guys are all going through is a big help. I've avoided chanting (I'm a Buddhist) because the depression has been so bad but going to make myself chant this morning and hope to push through this.



    Wishing all of you well in your treatments.



  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 171
    edited July 2012

    Hi! Joining the July 2012 chemo thread -althought I had first infusion on 6/27. Had it on a Wednesday - Worked from home Thursday and Friday - took Monday off (I work a 4 day work week). Back to work on Tuesday

    Thank you for all the input and suggestions from everyone - every little bit helps!

    Had first followup with Onc today 7/6. WBC count is good.

    No major SE's... some fatigue day 4-7. No nausea or vomiting - Make sure they infuse with antinausea drugs Emend/Aloxi and dont be afraid to ask..

    Did have some diarrhea - nothing major. A little metallic taste in mouth but resolve that with ginger or peppermint candy. Had only 1 day where my lower back hurt - took Ibuprofen and had a massage.  Its day 12 and still have my hair but anticipating that will change over the next few weeks.. Did gain 5 pounds over 1 month - not happy about that!!

    I am not an advocate of taking meds - pretty much a holisitic type of gal..  but I took whatever they told me to take to alleviate any symptoms (before, during and after). The only med I did not take (although they kept telling me to) was a sleeping pill. I did not have a problem sleeping so what was the point?

    Try to exercise..its hard when you are fatigued, but Im walking, taking yoga and doing water aerobics (not all at the same time--lol! ) at least 4-5 times a week.

    Good Luck to all starting in July -Love to all !!

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    Thank you for everyone sharing their experiences with chemo.  I'm getting my list together of what I'm taking with me to my first infusion of AC next week.  I think I'm going to try and find some Sea-Bands to wear for any possible nausea.  My pharmacist/herbalist recommended them in addition to ginger and what the ONC is giving me.  I believe it can't hurt and these aren't medications so I'll do it.  Hopefully I can find them at the drugstore here in town or at least close by.

    My GYN called and from what I described to her she believes this may be my last period (where have I heard that before) because the one two days after my surgery was my "scheduled" one anyway.  If it goes beyond next Thursday or returns again next month, she is going to run some tests to find out what is happening.  I may ask my ONC about any blood testing her office can do to find out what my estrogen levels are at to ensure they're going down.  I did find some interesting stuff from Dr. Google (I can't remember who on this board came up with that name but I love it) about what is called estrogen withdrawal bleeding that results from the sudden withdrawal of estrogen in the body resulting from a bilateral oophorectomy.  O.K.... I must be losing it if I'm diagnosing myself these days.

    Well.... I've got to go and start cleaning house.  My mother-in-law is coming for a visit and of course it's one of those weeks when the house went from being clean on Monday to a mess today. 

    I would like to say I really appreciate all of you.  It's so nice to be part of a group that really understands!

    Take care everyone and hoping no or minimal SE's for anyone!!!
  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012
    teeballmom- You can find Seabands at Walgreens.  I bought them there and never had to use them or the ginger chews I got.  However, I have been drinking the ginger ale.  You can also buy ginger chews at Whole Foods.
  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2012
    Unfortunately, things haven't gone as well as they did initially. My white counts crashed out to almost 0 and I developed neutropenic fever. I'm in isolation in the hospital until they can control the infection and get my white counts up. However, my oncologist said this is very rare for T/C chemo and she's never seen anyone develop it so quickly. Frown
  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    Melrosemelrose:  Thanks. There's a Walgreens in town so I'll head over there this weekend.

    Cyano:  I'm so sorry this is happening to you and I'm hoping you get better soon and out of the hospital.  I'll keep you in my thoughts!!!

    Take care everyone!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012
    Cyano- GET WELL SOON!!!!  Hang in there!!! One of the gals on the April/May 2012 chemo hang out ended up in the hospital after one of her rounds of A/C chemo.  It took a little while to get everything under control and she was able to get back home within a week.  Stuff just happens sometimes and you are where you need to be to get better!!!!  Sending lots of positive, calming and healing prayers, thoughts and energy!!!!  HUGS!!!!
  • Lisa614
    Lisa614 Member Posts: 42
    edited July 2012

    Well girls, had 1st chemo yesterday and I have to say, so far so good.   I am being vigilant about taking my anti-nausea meds and I have not been sick or very nauseous at all.   Woke up at 4am with a little queasiness but i just ate a few crackers and then fell back asleep.  

    Went back today for my Neulasta shot.  Not sure when any of those side effects will kick in.  I think nurse said 2-3 days.  But I was told Clariten helps and I've been on that for allergies.

    I think the thing that is bothering me most right now is the darn steroid medicine.  I was given IV Dexamethasome prior to the chemo infusion.  And around 2 pm today, my face got all flushed, my legs started feeling like that restless leg syndrome feeling, and I just feel an overall uneasy, nervous energy.  I don't like it.  It's like being on speed but not having the energy to do anything with it.

    I've been good about hydrating for the last 3 days and today.  Hopefully that helps as all of the suggestions on here have been so helpful.

  • Lauren423
    Lauren423 Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2012

    Teeballmom - is your port area still sore?  I get mine next week. 

    Soltantio - for me, they did the IHC test originally, and it came back HER2+, so they ordered the FISH test to make sure...and it came back positive.  If it hadn't, they were going to retest mine, too.  I didn't have the oncotype test either.   

    Truffles - thank you for sharing your experience.  My first treatment is next Friday and it's comforting to see what others have gone through.

    Cyano - so sorry this is happening to you...please keep us updated.

    Lisa - thanks for sharing your experience.  I don't think I'm going to like the steroid meds either, for the same reasons!

    Well, I had a MUGA scan yesterday (MUltiple Gated Acquisition scan), as well as "Chemo Ed" class.  It was great to walk in with a list of questions, and the pre-chemo shopping list, and be ready to talk about everything.  She let me know the potential SEs, the drugs I'd be getting to combat those SEs, and the overall treatment experience.  She took me through the chemo beds and showed me the snack area.  My first treatment (Taxol/Heceptin) is next Friday, the 13th.  My husband will be with me, and then over the next 12 weeks, my mom is going to come down from Cincinnati to help out when needed.  I am glad she's retired!

    Next week on Tuesday, I see the surgeon who will be placing my port.  (My BS doesn't do them.)  Then, we'll schedule the placement, and then like I said, first tx on Friday.  

    So, on my dad's side of the family, we have only a few family members (compared to my mom's side!).  Every 3 years, we meet and have a family reunion.  Most of us live in Cincinnati, but then 2 are in Montana, 1 in Chicago, 1 in Seattle, 1 in Akron, and then my hubby and me in Louisville.  This year we are meeting in Montana (Valier) during the first week of August, and we've had the trip planned since BEFORE I was diagnosised with BC in March!  So, I will have just had my 4th treatment the Friday before our Sunday-Thursday trip.  I know I will probably not have any hair by that point, but I wonder if I will be suffering any SEs that will make it a lousy trip!  It is a long flight, and I guess that's my main concern.  Once we get out there, I don't have to go do the hikes and white water rafting we have planned...it will just be great to be with my family.  

    THEN, again, I had already scheduled and purchased a flight to go to Chicago for a best friend's 40th b-day when I found out I would need to do chemo.  The trip is mid-Sept, and by then, I will have had 10 treatments (of 12).  From everything I've read and heard, the SEs get worse as the treatment are completed (esp fatigue).  Before I cancel that trip, I want to see how I am with the SEs...maybe they won't be as bad as they can be??  My chemo ed nurse practictioner said it's different for everyone...and I know that's been discussed on the boards, too.   

    Take care...have a great weekend everyone! 

  • cjanet
    cjanet Member Posts: 328
    edited July 2012

    Hi guys,

    I posted once in here I think.  I'm scheduled to start Adriamycin next Wed.  I'm glad it's a shorter infusion than the Taxotere/Cytoxan was, but man the side effects (heart failure and leukemia) really freak me out.  The other ones I can deal w as I've done them before.  My chemo talk was with a PA I don't like very well- she just doesn't explain things very well or makes things more complicated than they need to be.


    Cyano- my one fear is my blood counts will drop= I had a fever 2 nights in a row during the 4th round of the T/C but I never told my doctors until later.  They yelled at me this time to call immediately if I have a fever because I will likely have to come to the ER.  I hope you are feeling better. 

    Lauren423- for my last cycle of chemo, my worst cycle was #3, not #4, so I can't explain that.  But I have to say I still have chemo brain and I haven't had chemo since May 23rd.  So these side effects can stick around for a while.  

    The hair on my head was beginning to grow back too, as well as on my legs.  I'm still losing hair on one eyebrow and my pubic area-how the hell does that make any sense??  My hair started to grow back on my head before I even finished the last cycle of chemo!  Weird.

    I'm hopefull I'll be able to tolerate the SEs better this time simply because I am only getting one drug plus I have experience now dealing with SEs and knowing what to expect. 

  • Jane64
    Jane64 Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2012

    Hi just wanted to let you to know had 1st tx of herceptin only today. Was a breeze got there at 10am was out by 11am. The port is really great. I had no numbing cream and didnt feel the stick at all.



    On my first tx i had the uneasiness and my hands were shaky but finally went away a week later.



    cyano i hope you are doing better now.

  • Jane64
    Jane64 Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2012
    Hi just wanted to let you to know had 1st tx of herceptin only today. Was a breeze got there at 10am was out by 11:30m. The port is really great. I had no numbing cream and didnt feel the stick at all.

    On my first tx i had the uneasiness and my hands were shaky but finally went away a week later.

    Cyano i hope you are doing better now.
  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    Lauren423:  My port and the area around it is not sore (left shoulder area on my chest), but what my BS said is that if you're lean where it's placed (and I think most people are in that particular area where mine was placed) then you'll know it's there, but in a few days you won't even think about it.  Definitely no pain or anything. It's just like he said.  I know something is there but it's not bothersome or anything like that.  The only achiness I felt was the day of surgery and that was in my left arm, but I'm sure that was from the anesthesia and by the next morning that achiness was gone.  Good luck on your port surgery.  The anticipation is by far the worst part of it.

    Cjanet:  That's what I worry about, too.  The WBC dropping and me ending up in the ER.  But I'll do what my ONC said and call if I get a fever of 100.4 or more.

    I purchased the Sea Bands yesterday at Target for nausea.  For $8, I'll try anything to hopefully keep the nausea at bay next Weds.  I'll wear them 24/7 if I have to.

    So I have decided that I will have my DH shave off my hair this coming Friday (my 1st chemo date is 7/11).  Our little guys had their heads shaved yesterday and they asked if I was going to have mine done with them, too (they're excited to cut my hair as best they can beforehand).   I just couldn't do it last night, but.... I am 95% sure about this Friday.  I decided that chemo is not going to decide when my hair is gone, but I will.  I hope I stay strong about my decision. 

    Take care everyone!

  • fishinurse
    fishinurse Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2012

    Yup,getting my port in on Wed. 7/11/12 and my first chemo treatment will be july 16th. I will be getting adriamycin and cytoxan together for 4 cycles and after that i will be getting 4 cycles of taxotere, followed by radiation 5 days/week for 7 weeks.

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    Fishinurse:  Best of luck to you on the port and your first treatment. 

  • boobzilla
    boobzilla Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2012

    Hi everybody, starting TAC 7/19 x 6, then surgery, then radiation. Port put in net week, along with Chemo class. A little nervous because of all of the possible side effects, but I am glad to be here-seems like a great community.

  • fishinurse
    fishinurse Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2012

    Thanks so much!

  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2012

    I'm back home!! Neupogen works wonders. My white blood cell count went from 0.2 to 1.0 in a day. They never did find the source of the infection, but I did have a severe colitis flare up 5 days after chemo which may actually have been a gastro illness and not colitis. Little by little I'm learning to take it easy. I'm going to have to lay off running for a while. I'm super tired still and a bit weak after eating nothing but clear liquids for 5 days. Fortunately, I love jello. Hopefully some solids tomorrow. Mouthsores but that's expected with the low counts.  And an anal fissure from the gastro problems. Not looking forward to the next round, but I'm sure my onco will take work to prevent this happening again.

    For those who are just starting, my oncologist says that the risk of hospitalization for neutropenia with T/C chemo is <5%.

  • planetbananas
    planetbananas Member Posts: 206
    edited July 2012

    Got my port 7/3, chemo starting 7/16 after a huge ****up by onc who had forgotten to write any orders. FEC 100 / Taxotere x 8 and Neulasta.



    Going to Vegas the weekend before for one last hurrah :)



    Anxious to get all of this underway, starting to feel a little crazy. I did just get my first fill which went much easier than I thought and it helped my TE's sit better in my chest. I am now an 'A' cup!

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2012

    Planetbananas - My last hurrah before chemo and hair loss is doing a vintage pin-up photo layout. Mostly for me but also because I know it'll make my boyfriend's brain explode.

  • planetbananas
    planetbananas Member Posts: 206
    edited July 2012

    lifeonitsside, that is such an awesome idea, I love it, it sounds so empowering.

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited July 2012

    Hi Everyone...

    I had my port put in on July 6th and my chemo will start this Wednesday (7/11).  I'm sitting here in front of the computer drinking my water!  I'm trying to get used to the eight glasses a day!  I just wanted to thank everyone who takes the time to pass along great tips!  

  • Lisa614
    Lisa614 Member Posts: 42
    edited July 2012

    Day 3 since first TC treatment, Day 2 since Neulasta.   Yesterday, my gums became so sore I can't use toothbrush anymore.  Using Biotene mouthwash.   

    No vomiting, very little nausea...I take my meds at first sign of queasiness.  I'm feeling a little achy but not terrible.  Taking Clariten daily.  

    Just wanted to post so that those waiting to start know that so far it is VERY manageable.  

    Good luck to all.   Stay strong!

    Lisa 

  • swimmom01
    swimmom01 Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2012

    Soltantio-

    I met a friend of a friends Mom who is a retired infusion nurse. She had all of the same info to help with SE that we have seen on this board except when it came to the cold caps. When I asked her about it she made a face and said if you take none of my advice please listen to this, don't use one. She said over the years she would see patients who used them back with cancer on their head. I don't know anything about the caps so she could be thinking of the ones from years ago as she is retired. I don't want to scare you but wanted to pass the info along.

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    Madelyn:  I'm starting my chemo on 7/11, too.  I'll be thinking of you!

    Soltantio:  That is really scarey about the cold caps.  I wasn't going to use one, but that information would definitely make me think twice. 

    Lisa:  Your post is helping me with my uneasiness about getting in the big chair this coming Weds.

    Lifeonitsside:  Fantastic idea.  Love it!

    Planetbananas:  Win big and have fun in Vegas!

    Take care everyone!!!

  • swimmom01
    swimmom01 Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2012

    Soltantio-

    I am also going to be on taxotere and heard that info about permanent hair loss, it scares me as well. But since I am her2 + I am really scared of a recurrence. I just didn't want to have info and not pass it along since everyone has been so wonderful with sharing.

  • Jane64
    Jane64 Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2012

    Hi when tired of drinking water i have been drinking flavored seltzer water. It really makes it easier to drink. I saw that in an earlier post and is helpful cause im so tired of water already.

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