Stage IIa: lumpectomy or mastectomy

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  • nikola
    nikola Member Posts: 466
    edited January 2011

    Hi,

    I was 42 when diagnosed. I decided to go with bilateral mastectomy as I was the one who discovered lump. Mammo came back normal. I went to surgery with one known cancer and came out with three. One was 1.3 cm, other 1.1 cm and third was 0.2 cm. My "good" breast was ticking bomb, too. I am wondering if I did not have mastectomy if other two cancers would reoccur later? Would it be killed by chemo and rads?

    I am 8 months post mastectomy with DIEP and my recovery time was 3 months.

  • flash
    flash Member Posts: 1,685
    edited January 2011

    I had mast suggested to me because we already knew it was multifocal and multicentric and has a better outcome for my type of cancer. The slice and dice found an additional type of cancer we weren't even expecting.  I'm glad I didn't have to do rads because it would have been inconvenient for where I live.  Chemo every two weeks was enough travelling. My understanding is you need to be sure which you do when setting up your options for reconstruction, if you are doing it.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011

    Maxine radiation will definitely impact your reconstruction depending on what kind of reconstruction you have chosen. You need to discuss this with your PS.

    I had TE's placed at the time of BMX. We did not know if I would need radiation although my BS thought I would. My PS was aware of this. Ended up that the Rad onc thought I could pass on rads so Ididn't do them. My PS was pleased but he did say if I did have them he would still continue to work with the implant procedure.

  • LizM
    LizM Member Posts: 963
    edited January 2011

    Maxine, to answer your question on whether having reconstruction impacts your treatment, I would say NO.  The most important thing is to treat the cancer but having reconstruction will not change your treatment and for me did not interfere with my treatment schedule.  I was diagnosed 5 years ago and opted to have a bi-lateral mastectomy with immediate reconstruction.  My decision was based on the fact that my cancer was mult-centric making lumpectomy harder to do and having very dense breast tissue resulting in the mamogram never picking up my tumor.  Bascially I did not trust imaging on my breasts and decided to remove them both so I wouldn't constantly think there was something cooking in my good breast.  I had chemo on schedule 5 weeks after surgery and would have started at 4 weeks but wanted a particular oncologist.  After I completed chemo, I opted to have radiation on my tissue expanders due to location of the tumor and one positive node.  I had radiation 6 weeks after chemo.  Six months after radiation I had my implant exchange surgery for my silicone implants.  So far so good with no complications.  In six months I will be completing my 5 years on hormone therapy but my oncoligist is going to let me stay on longer.

  • medinorth
    medinorth Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2011

    Thank you all for your responses.  I'm sorry that I'm not just getting back to the forum.

  • medinorth
    medinorth Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2011

    Thank you all for your responses.  I'm sorry that I'm just now getting back to the forum.

  • spitnspunk
    spitnspunk Member Posts: 138
    edited January 2011

    I originally thought I was a S1 and so lump due to that, but found out the tumor was bigger then thought and lots of stuff around it taken out w it so I'm really a S11A. I have wondered if maybe I should have had a mast instead and I questioned that and I've been told that the lump was more then fine; I also did the internal rads after the surgery and I'm still doing the chemo now so hopefully any floater cells will be killed off. 

    IMO, if  something is going to come back somewhere else in my body, it would have come back regardless of having/ not having my breast and if it does come back in that breast, then I can elect to have the mast at that time. If nothing comes back ever, then I still have my breast, although rather scarred and deflated looking so it's not much of a win.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited January 2011

    Give it a year; the fat will move around to fill in the spaces and you might be suprised by how good you look after a time.

  • medinorth
    medinorth Member Posts: 67
    edited June 2011

    I had two lumpectomies and now I have to have mastectomy. It was not foreseen but I still feel dumb.

  • LuLu2011
    LuLu2011 Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2011

    What was the internal rads like.  Im supposed to have them the end of month.  Was the cath they put in painful?

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited June 2011

    LuLu2011, I had the internal radiation. I had no pain from the cath they put in. I was very glad to only need 5 days 2 times a day of treatment. I was a bit tired after a week of it but still no pain. Mine was placed at the time of cleaning up my margins, and the treatments began the next day.

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited June 2011

    I chose a BMX. My right side would have been hard to resect. The BS said with all the calcifications & DCIS she wasn't sure she could get clear margins. The left side had a neat & tidy tumor & it would be easy to get clear margins. My breasts have always been hard, dense & often painful. I haven't wanted breasts since I was 14. I found mamograms painful & they missed my tumors! Steriotactic biopsies brutal! Reconstruction sounded painful & I believed it would increase my recovery time folowing surgery. I was told that if I had a lumpectomy on the left, i would need to continue to get mamograms, despite their ineffectiveness in women with dense breasts. I also wanted to be done with biopsies! I went for symetry & had both removed without recostruction. I'm 52, I might not have made the same choice(s) at 32. I believe lumpectomies can be just as effective, just not for me.

  • peetie
    peetie Member Posts: 20
    edited June 2011

    hi mom and 2 kids.  i am still waiting on my last test results (i hope) i just had my breast mri with dye yesterday.  when i first found out about 10 days ago and am still trying to learn quickly what to ask the docs but dont know what questions to ask, if you know what i mean?  i hear about Oncitype and havent a clue if thats a test i never got or a type of cancer?  and a petscan, my doc mentioned she didnt think with what she knew 5 days ago, that i needed one and she recommended at that time a lumpectomy at that point, and i sorta decided within 5 minutes of hearing i had breast cancer was just get it all out of me so i dont have to worry anymore! i am almost 59 and have been through menapause for 9 years now and am tiny breasted but their mine!  i am an old hippie with a size 40 a bra, 5'9" and 145 and love to run around the house with no bra with a tshirt when it really hot, and i am so small no ne can tell except if i get a chill.  my hubby just got put on disability 2 years ago and my self employment occupation went down the tubes when my back went out last oct, just in time for my only daughter to get married and i was her maid of honor!  what a mess--i was just having my last back xray and going to go to surgery when the day of my last back xray, i was diagnosed.  do you know if an insert comes with a nipple?  i probaly sound stupid with the types of questions i have, and  i am not a vain person and havent alot  going for me looks wise, but ide sorta like to keep what ive got.  i am told i probably wont need chemo but i will need radiation and hormones that i havent been able to tolerate eve the natural ones for what ever reason since my teens, so i guess ill just be bonkers for the rest of my life?  on top of it all i am just about ready to get kicked off of my hubbys insurance because hes now elegiable for medicare part a and b and dont make enough money for anything now, let alone anything happening in the future.  my doc siad go for te back surgery right after the breast surgery--she saw no problem with that, and if i dont, i wont have any quality of life at from my back and hip and leg being sooo bad, nor will i have the insurance to have it done. talk about a whirl win.  thanks for listening and anyone else feel free to jump n and give a little input-k?   thanks girlfriends!

  • peetie
    peetie Member Posts: 20
    edited June 2011

    thats a new one to me internal rads?  is this instead of radiation trips every day for weeks?  hows that going for anyone and who can get it done that way?  my car is a 1991 gas hog that breaks down every other time i go anywhere, so i know going to radiation every day is going to really cause problems.  thanks

  • suemed8749
    suemed8749 Member Posts: 1,151
    edited June 2011

    Peetie - Hi and welcome! You're definitely in the whirlwind part of this diagnosis - I remember that same feeling of not even knowing what to ask. I was diagnosed 3 1/2 years ago - I'm about your age and also stage 2.

    Please don't EVER feel stupid for asking ANY question - that's why we're here! Now, I'm not sure about an insert with a nipple - I had a single mastectomy and have a silicone implant. My plastic surgeon made a nipple and I had the areola tattooed on - it looks fine in clothes, even a swimsuit, but the nipple doesn't respond to cold, so I wear a molded cup bra to avoid the "uninip" look.

    You now have a whole new set of girlfriends - this is a great place for support and advice. I'm glad you found us!

    Sue

  • Sharon648
    Sharon648 Member Posts: 15
    edited May 2012

    I am stage 1.my turmor size was 2.1cm...i had a lumpectomy...talk to your surgeon..it personal choice...

  • jazlaumir
    jazlaumir Member Posts: 91
    edited June 2012

    i just got a lumpectomy two days ago after agonizing about the decision versus a mastectomy.  My doctor wanted to to take a more gradual approach and get results from a sentinel node biopsy first beforehand, she said I could make that decision after treatment.  I am being treated at a top research hospital and have felt confident with my doctors; however, I received a call today from the nurse regarding my Path reports, stating that I not only have invasive ductal carcinoma ( which I was aware of but I also have DCIS.( which i was not aware of)  Not sure why this was just picked up as I had not heard this before (the DCIS part) my lump was 2.87, grade 2 cancer with 3 out of 8 node cancerous. So the nurse stated that this would be T2 and N1. In addition, they did not get clear margins and want me to meet with the doctors on Monday to discussion options to include re-excision.  I don't understand why they didn't get clear margins?  I thought they would be very careful and now I don't know if I want to take any more chances and think I should now just go with the mastetomy. 

     Any advice?  I feel upset that the doctors did not get clear margins, what happened? All new to me, just don't get it, I just feel very upset that they weren't more careful? I don't know if that is fair but I just don't understand, any one have any advice?  It will be a long weekend again..

  • Jodycat
    Jodycat Member Posts: 123
    edited June 2012

    The statistics from different countries suggest there's a cultural element operating in whether a mx or a lumpx is recommended. Wiki has a reasonable discussion.

  • itsjustme10
    itsjustme10 Member Posts: 796
    edited June 2012

    jazlaumir- I had a bmx, so that didn't happen to me, but I've seen a lot of people saying they didn't get clean margins, and had to have it done again.  Maybe if you check the surgery threads you'll see some stories there (?) 

    When you think about it, its all very individual, even how the tumors look - if its spread out, and there are microscopic amounts near the margins, there's no way the surgeon could have seen it.  It stinks, but it happens - that's why they examine the specimen so carefully after excision - to make sure the margins are clean - if it weren't a common concern, they wouldn't bother.

  • jazlaumir
    jazlaumir Member Posts: 91
    edited June 2012

    Itsjustme10- Thank you for your reply, it does make sense, just upsetting I guess.

  • stickwitch28
    stickwitch28 Member Posts: 17
    edited June 2012

    Hi. I was a stage IIA but my doctor went for mastectomy and removal of 23 nodes. My tumor was about more than 2cm but less than 5cm and was located on the inner aspect of my right breast. I opted for mastectomy because I wanted to forego radiation which comes along with lumpectomy being my tumor was near my heart and thinking of its effects on vital organ. Well, now I still have to go through radiation because I dont have a clear margin on the the bottom part of my tumor. The surgeon said that she cannot dissect anymore than what she took because it was already my breastbone. It sucks because I was foregoing it, now I still have to go through it:( There was really no way they could know if the margins are clear or not until after the surgery.

  • christina0001
    christina0001 Member Posts: 1,491
    edited June 2012

    I had a lumpectomy prior to chemo and the margins were not clear. The plan was for chemo and another lumpectomy, but my onc and now two surgeons have really encouraged me to have a UMX, and I have decided I will. The surgeons were agreeable to doing the second lumpectomy if I really wanted to, but I am terrified that they won't get it all. So I am going with the MX.

  • Summer-sky
    Summer-sky Member Posts: 25
    edited July 2012

    I am currently being treated at Mass General and love my team.  Who was your surgeon?  Going for a re-excision on Monday.  I did not get clear margins the first time.  How are you doing a year+ out?

  • Summer-sky
    Summer-sky Member Posts: 25
    edited July 2012

    Always definitely a personal decision.  I am going for re-excision on Monday, and pray for clear margins.  I wish you luck in August.  You have to be confident with your team and their guidance.  They are the experts and see this everyday.  We are the unfortunate ones that have been blessed with this disease, and forced to arm ourselves with knowledge.  At the end of the day, go with what the doctors advise, I feel, for the best outcome.

  • Summer-sky
    Summer-sky Member Posts: 25
    edited July 2012

    I am going for re-excision on Monday.  I was given the choice of mastectoy after unclear margins, but chose to go with the reccomendations of my team.  What did you decide, and how did you fair?

  • cacrew
    cacrew Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2012

    I just had a lumpectomy and surgical pathology report came back as Stage 11A...I went into this DX as Stage 1 first 1CM then after MRI 1.8CM and final tumor size was 2.1CM.  I was DX 2 months before I actually had surgery for removal...and I can help wondering that all the delays in the tests and surgery didn't account for the additonal size of the tumor at surgery...although BS said it didn't grow that fast.  The support group I go to said that having a mastectomy has better survival rates than those who do a lumpectomy/rads...even though all research material I've seen says no difference...any one care to comment on these odds?  I'm now waiting for the results of my mammaprint to come back to determine whether or not I can skip chemo...........and go straight to rads.

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