I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited July 2012

    CLC...



    Dictionary.com has a "word of the day" feature that will email you a new word every day. Mumpsimus was featured last week, followed by sumpsimus - another great word!

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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited July 2012
    Hi CLC -- So good to see you here!
    Yes, the word "unctuous" -- it perfectly describes Zoltan Karpathy in Pygmalion (and My Fair Lady, of course) who "oiled his way across the room" at the Ball.
     
    Scoot -- mumpsimus and sumpsimus sound like twin mugwumps!  Or would that be mugwumpsimi?Wink
     
    We were without internet service for nearly 24 hours (problem at source) and didn't know how addicted we are to it!    Bartender, I'll have a manhattan, thank you!
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  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited July 2012

    Ladies, I apologie for being MIA. Lost power Monday night for 24 hours. Yesterday we had power and a/c, but I was out and about. Welcome to CLC and other newbies. I am the Chief Spiritual Officer and Bartender. You  really don't know how well those work together. Yes, we are open seven days a week. Drinks are on the house for the rest of the week to celebrate our freedom from scary green things that come in the night.

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  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited July 2012

    Bartender-I'll have a margarita! Summer has finally, finally arrived here in Seattle!

    Welcome CLC! 

    Mary 

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  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited July 2012

    Hello everybody!

    All the welcomes and all the drinks make me think I might be Norm and Cliff Claven is about to expound on something...but, please oh please, don't start calling me Norm.  Nothing I have ever done has ever quite fit the Norm.

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Can I grumble a sec? Lately several people have told me that I should "forget" the cancer, that it is in my past, I am fine, finito cancer.



    I had a stage III cancer. The chances that the bugger will be back one day (hopefully not any day very soon) are pretty good. I don't dwell on it, but that is reality. Meanwhile I am taking estrogen suckers every day, going for checkups every three months with two different docs and wearing a lymphedema sleeve and glove. How exactly am I supposed to dance along, tra-la-laing all the while, "Cancer? Someone had cancer?"? Besides, who are they to tell me what I should or should not think.



    Grrrrr and thanks for "listening."

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  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited July 2012

    Interlude - thanks, northern neighbors!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/for-canadian-crews-helping-with-power-outage-sweaty-glimpses-of-washington-life/2012/07/06/gJQA5CPZRW_story.html?hpid=z3

    You all ROCK!  You saved a group of our folks in Tehran in 1979, and you send power crews to help us get back lights and a/c.

    O Canada -- I love you!

    L

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  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited July 2012

    Momine...and it has only been a year since your dx.  I hope those several people are not close to you.  Grrrrrr is right.  I had DCIS, and I am not near done emotionally.  Can't imagine getting there any time soon.  My world has changed.  I have changed.  And mine is stage 0.  I am sorry you are dealing with such insensitivity, ignorance...

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Thanks, CLC, it just really bugged me the last few days.



    Actually, now that you mention people close to me, mother! She had cancer herself five years ago, but questions my membership on this site, because "why dwell on it?" She says she considers herself cured. Never mind that she had a fairly serious case of ovarian cancer. I tried to explain to her that cancer is considered a chronic disease. She waved me off.

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  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited July 2012

    Well, I am not one to discuss mothers.  Mine passed away 6 years ago of lung cancer.  We were barely on speaking terms, and the speaking was, well, strained.  I have no regrets, but for those with difficult mothers that can salvage their relationships with them, I have great respect.  For those that cannot, I have great understanding.  I wish you nothing but the best with yours.  Claire

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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited July 2012
    Momine -- I think that people frequently give that sort of advice to make themselves feel better.
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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    CLC, sorry you had such a tough time with your mom. Mine is essentially a good person, just really messed up, childish and other such. But she is not actively evil, just a bit trying at times.



    Linda, I think you are absolutely right. It is usually "So, how are you feeeeeeling?" and I say, "I am really well, thanks." Then I get, "good, so now you can put it all behind you!" Uhm, no, not really unfortunately.

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  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited July 2012

    Momine,

    I'm so sorry your mom is being insensitive.  It sounds as though that's how she copes with her fear of her own cancer returning.  If she says it's over, it's over -- never mind that it's not. 

    I had someone (not close) recently say, "Now you can begin to put all this behind you."  Um ... no.  I've had it twice now ... my breasts are gone and breast-like substitutions are on my front (very nice ones, but I can't actually feel them).  I look like I've been sawed in half and put back together.  And it came back when it wasn't supposed to. 

    Most people don't know what to say.  Hell -- *I* don't know what to say most of the time. 

    (((((Momine))))) ... we get it.

    L

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Libby, thanks for the laugh (your wonderful description of your new chest) I hear you, my sister.

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited July 2012

    Momine, I agree that your mother may be projecting. It's also a very different proposition to get it in the prime of life versus in old age. MY mother is having trouble understanding that. I frankly have opted to say as little as I can about my cancer to the real world - but family is often the least understanding. It's incredible how often that happens.

    Also, your mother needs to know about the good times we have here - and the great drinks! I come HERE to this thread for the people, not the cancer.

    And the great vocabulary, which everyone knows is code, right?

    mugwumpsimi, I say!

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited July 2012

    Just noticed - we are on page 800 - yeah! Can y'all believe we have survived this long? To the newbies: we've been deleted about three times, I think.

    I should be working - will do a happy dance on hind legs in my own time. :-)

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Athena, I do think that simply keeping my mouth shut might be a good option. The one who set me off yesterday was my landlady. She is very sweet, lives upstairs, very friendly and I have known her for fifteen years. When she insisted that I am now "cured" I insisted that it is actually chronic. She finally compared it to her own diabetes, and I told her that the comparison is reasonable.

    My mother doesn't get the midlife vs end of life thing either, and I can't really confront it head on. She is 72 and currently NED. She has every good chance of living her entire normal life span, even if it does come back, as is very likely. I am feakin 48, 47 at DX. At least I do not have dependent kids, as so many women here do, but it is still quite a different proposition, when you are hoping to make it to your mid-50s.



    As for BCO, absolutely, lol.

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  • Dilly
    Dilly Member Posts: 655
    edited July 2012

    Happy 800th page ladies.

    Scoot you got me with mumpsimus.  What is the plural? mumpsimi?

    Since my technical skills peaked at the wheel, I'm still cogitating how to get the Lost Creek photo from photobucket to BCO.Embarassed

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  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited July 2012

    I usedtacould(my new word) get photos on here. But I can no more. I don't know if it is me or the new setup. i tried from Facebook and photobucket and no luck. Ah. such is life.

    I have not been around much. I just finished writing a resume. It would go out today but my husband had to go to the new place on an unrelated manner and is going to see who is "Human Relations" that i have to email the resume and cover letter to (I know -to whom but I is lazy) because I know everyone there, just not all the responsibilities they carry. It is a fairly small place. Details later.

    800 pages. Party tonight!

    If I may comment in general. It is good to see respectful debate on contentious topics. It is very nice when people can still be nice when some get prickly. Kudos to those involved.

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  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited July 2012

    I am kind of the opposite with my mom, I guess. She is 84 years old and has lost a brother when he was 36, and my brother when he was 43. My breast cancer diagnosis was absolutely devastating to her. She thinks I am "done" with cancer-I'm 2 1/2 years out, and I let her think that. I don't tell her that someday it may come back elsewhere in my body, that breast cancer is different from some other cancers in that one is never really "cured". But.....I figure, she is 84, I may not have her long(though her own mother lived to be 91!) and she doesn't need the stress of worrying about me.

    Momine-I'm sorry your mom is so insensitive. I don't think my mom would ever tell me to "Get over it", in fact, I might have to say it to her.

    Mary 

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Joining HL in a chorus of "O Canada" - while I type.

    Momine -Sorry you aren't getting the understandingyou expect from your family, I never did, and it took a LONG time for me to heal and grow out of that, but being related by blood doesn't always mean sensitivity.  Alas, the "norman Rockwell" image has endured for so long, but his own family was NOT as pictured.  With a Stage III experience, I don't know how anyone can just "let it go" - I'm still, 5 years later, with a Stage II and high Oncotype, looking over my shoulder.  Not as often as I used to, but DeNile can only go so far. Hope you find ways to deal with the insensitivity that don't hurt you!

    Scoot - I read a bit of that, ah, other thread, whew, not getting into that, but here's my contribution to the state of health care in MA: After reading these numbers, everybody is gonna need a lot to drink ( also, think BCBSMA is a nonprofit?) costs? premiums going to pay who?

    http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2011/03/ag_begins_probe.html

    Agree with Rosemary, it was a pretty respectful thead, I especially LOVED some of the posts from Yorkiemom, and chickadee, but knew to stay out of it...Tongue out

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  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited July 2012

    Sorry to interrupt with my own problems, but I think I may be finally getting somewhere with my A/C woes.

    Tuesday, I asked for a copy of my lease, since I didn't have one. When I went to pick it up, the receptionist asked me why, and I told her I was looking for an escape clause. :) She chuckled and said I'd have to buy my way out, and I told her that wasn't true if THEY had breached the agreement by failing to maintain the apt. She looked shocked and said, "Oh." and said the property manager would be back yesterday or today. The landlady was actually IN today, and came down to my apartment. Of course, she acted as though she'd had no idea the situation was so bad, but as long as she gets it fixed, she can pretend whatever she wants. I also told her how rude the maintenance man had been and she asked me to put it in writing and slip it under her office door when I leave for work tomorrow.

    The maintenance man is back and seems to be *trying* to be civil. He was supposed to check out and clean the ductwork and if that didn't do it, he'd be back. For the first time ever, he actually unscrewed the cover on the register (!) and found it clogged -with MOLD!- Good God. He went to get the "bleaching kit" and asked me to take down the curtains to give him room to work. I figured that would be a good opportunity to wash them. My sister had suggested putting the dryer on fluff - no added heat - and see if the place was hot enough to dry my clothes anyway. Yes, it is! Every little bit of heat I can avoid helps.

    Of course, if this fixes it, I'm here until my lease is up next May, but I'm leaving then, anyway. OH! Almost forgot. They actually started hauling away that huge pile of dead brush today, too. About time. I was afraid I'd tipped my hand by asking for the lease, but it seems to have lighted a fire under them.

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited July 2012

    Sorry, my darling dear Athena.  I cannot stay on "that" thread and maintain my inner peace.  Healthy debate is fine, snidery (today's contribution to our "code" vocab) is NOT.

    Momine and CLC - oh, the people who love to tell you you're cured!  My ex-boss used to insist that I beat it, it wasn't coming back, why was I so anxious 3 years after diagnosis of stage III cancer?  There are no words for them - just play elevator music in your head so that their words are drowned out ("Girl from Ipanema" is a favorite elevator piece of mine).  Then, come here and we will all listen to and support you. 

    Riley, I hope that fire you lit is nowhere near that pile of dead brush!  ;-)  I'm glad you're leaving that place next May.  It doesn't sound like a healthy place for anyone! 

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  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited July 2012

    Oh ladies

    It is 102 degrees here.  I am 40 feet from a lake and have not bothered to go in it because it is like bath water. Another day of record heat. Yippee kai yi yea.

    So what is the best hot weather drink for our 800 page celebration please? All opinions welcome. No confrontation or mean girls here.

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Scoot, next time I will imagine you playing along to The Girl from Ipanema on the maracas, thanks. It bugs me all the more because I am not even being freaking anxious about it, just truthful. But I guess people really just want unicorns and rainbow farts, and I should try to remember that.

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Hmm, a drink I have not had in ages is campari and soda with a lime. It is very summery and refreshing.

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  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited July 2012
    Hee, Scoot. I HAD pointed out the extreme fire hazard that brush pile posed several times and reminded them that July 4th was coming up and I would not be pleased if some moron decided to light it off and my building burned. They still didn't get around to it until today. Yell
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  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited July 2012

    I'm a gin and tonic girl...Tanqueray and tonic with lime.  I used to drink those with my grandmother (a girl from the flapper generation that could drink with the best of them).

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012
    CLC, my grandparents were young in the 30s and they were BAD! Laughing
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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited July 2012

    Oh, scoot - my ignore settings are evidently working well, because I didn't see that (although I could certainly imagine it). Agreed. "Snidericious-ness" is not allowed. I just see it as the sophistry of the ignorant or of the gray-matter-impaired, but that's just code for......never mind!

    ETA: Riley - glad you got a copy of your lease.

    Very hot here - can't count that high.

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