Starting Chemo July 2012

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  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2012

    Today's a bit rougher, but still not bad. I have a mild headache, muscle aches and sore throat. Not sure whether it's the start of a cold or from the T/C. Time will tell. I ran the toddler group at church this morning with a warning to all parents that there will be absolutely no toddlers with sniffles accepted for the next 4 months. I made sure to bleach everything and hand wash everyone. I'm hoping to keep running the program; I love the little guys. I had a nap this afternoon and then went out to dinner with a friend.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2012

    I talked to my MO about working with children because I teach fine art to kids and am constantly surrounded by them. He said not to worry about being overly-cautious. Wash your hands, use sanitizer but he said anything else is based on old-fashioned thinking and is outdated. However, do whatever makes you feel safe.

  • lilypad
    lilypad Member Posts: 23
    edited July 2012

    teeballmum : good luck for your thyroid biopsy!!!

     TAB55 : Or maybe I got it wrong! :)  well I hope we all get very little side effects so as the day doesnt matter at all!! :)  

    Cyano , and Fredig2 : Thanks for sharing your first chemo experiences.  Its encouraging !!!! :) 

     Planetbananas : We both our ports tomorrow... !!! hope its all easy.

     I have almost decided on the Dose dense ACx4 and Tx4 regimen, cause I want to go all out to kill the cancer. I have a consulatation with my onco today to confirm this.

     I get my port in my arm  under local anasthesia , tomorrow, and start on Wed. I chopped off my long hair to a pixie cut, and well I am not feeling too bad about it ..... YET!

     Am getting super nervous, and am unable to sit still. I really hope to be able to get back to work after my first cycle of chemo. 

  • lilypad
    lilypad Member Posts: 23
    edited July 2012

    truffles : goodluck for tomrrow. Looks like you are prepared! 

    lifeonitsside : when do you start?? 

  • cyano
    cyano Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2012

    Lifeonitsside - good to hear about the kids; I didn't ask my dr. because I was afraid she might say no. I do the toddler thing on Sunday and I do science with the Boys+Girls club another couple mornings a week. I don't have kids of my own so I really enjoy my time to "borrow" kids. Part of my job is microbiology so I might be overparanoid.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited July 2012

    Cyano - I would say do whatever makes you comfortable but don't be afraid to ask your doctor. I teach quite a bit so I wanted to make sure about precautions before I began chemo. I like my MO because we discussed several things I read about - flushing the toilet twice, things like that. He dismissed many of those as old-fashioned and based on older chemo drugs. I even asked him about protection with my boyfriend during chemo (I'm in menopause and we don't use protection) and he was very forthcoming with what to do. But he, too, said do what makes you comfortable and makes you feel you are protecting yourself and those around you. But to not be too caught up in all those things.



    Lilypad - I've been teaching fine art to kids for more than five years with a company called Mission Renaissance. Great company, great job. They've been very understanding about my treatment and have assured me that they will give me all the help I need while I go through this.

  • cjanet
    cjanet Member Posts: 328
    edited July 2012

    Hi,

    I'm joining here.  I'm having my 2nd round of chemo (already did Taxotere and Cytoxan which I started in March, 4 rounds).  

    I am having my chemo talk on Thursday and hopefully start Adriamycin next week, 4 cycles every 2 weeks.  I already have claritin, used it with the last round for the nulasta and it definitely helped!

    I am still healing from the mastectomy and still in some pain but it's a lot better.

    I'll be honest, I did not "sail through" chemo last time.  A lot of the side effects for me came weeks later.  But I was still somewhat functional at home (I don't work, got laid off). 

  • 25weeks
    25weeks Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2012
    Hey guys-

    Is anyone choosing to not get a chemo port? I know it's supposed to be easier & more convenient, but I'll be honest, another scar is not at the top of my priority list. :(

    I was perusing google images of port scars, and it's bigger than I thought it would be. I'm not a particularly vain person, but if I can get through it without too much vein damage, then I may consider holding off.

    Thoughts? Non-port successes?
    :)
  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012
    25weeks- Understandably you want to avoid another scar.  I didn't have a choice about the port since my veins just hide when they know someone wants to access them!!!! It depends upon how easy your veins can be accessed and how may rounds of chemo you are having.  I know of a few women with 4 rounds of Cytoxan/Taxotere that did not get ports.  I will also tell you that the two had rounds where the infusion nurses had difficulty in getting a vein which was made for multiple pokes.  My infusion nurse has advised me to make sure that I hydrate well the day before the infusion to help make access easier for my port.  You should propbably talk to your onco about the pros/cons of the port and where the port will be placed.   
  • 25weeks
    25weeks Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2012

    Thanks melrosemelrose. I have an appt with my onc tomorrow at 1:30 to review my CT & bone scans, so I'll definitely see what she has to say. I've always been told I have good veins, so maybe. Hmmmm. I will have 6 rounds of C/T every 3 weeks.



    For those of you getting your port in your arm, where in the arm is it located?



    Thanks!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012
    25weeks- I have my port located close to my arm joint on the upper right side of my chest.  I had #4 round of 6 rounds of Cytoxan/Taxotere last week plus I'm on the Herceptin B-47 clinical trial.  I'll be receiving Herceptin until April 2013.  (FYI- I volunteered for the Herceptin clinical trial since my HER2 is +1 which for normal Herceptin purposes, Herceptin is not standard protocal.  I didn't know I would receive the Herceptin until I was randomized by the study.)  I'm glad I have that port since the port is used for blood labs done right before my treatments and will be used until I finish receiving the Herceptin next year.   
  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    First gotta shout that the biopsies came back B9 for both of the cysts in my Thyroid!!!!  Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!! After treatment, my BS mentioned that I will meet with an endocronologist and probably be placed on medications, but it sounds like he is deferring that decision to my ONC.

    Fredig2:  Glad your first infusion went well! 

    Cityfi:  Sounds like our treatments are the same except I will be receiving Herceptin with my Taxol.  Although I'm HER2-, there is a 2nd number they look at and I qualify for it.

    Tab55:  We're starting on the same date.  

    So had my port consult today and I get my port in on July 5th.  They originally had me scheduled on July 12th (which didn't make sense because everyone told them I start chemo on July 11th) and luckily someone cancelled so I replaced her on the 5th.  My BS said everything looks good and my arteries are in perfect alignment for my port but if not he has another option closer to my neck.  Yuck!!!

    I met with a pharmacist today who now consults about supplements and herbs and nutrition.  I won't post about it here because it relates more to the complementary alternative group, but I feel so positive about everything he said, what I'm currently taking and those items that I will be purchasing.  It all comes down for me to being able to function as normal as possible since we have a 6 and a 4 year old who are like the Energizer bunny (I can't wait until school starts on 8/16 - isn't that horrible to think).  They keep going and going and going nonstop.  I will say the pharmacist was very adamant about staying positive and viewing the chemo as not the enemy (hard for me to do but I'm working on it) but as a partner (I can't remember now the perfect wording he used, but he meant a partner) in killing the cancer cells.  He recommended really focusing on this while the infusion is occuring.  I think someone in one of the chemo groups mentioned visualizing the chemo as the Navy Seals swimming through the bloodstream and attacking those abnormal cells while she's sitting in the Big Girl Chair.  Definitely something I am going to do.  

    Wishing everyone who is beginning treatment this week that everything goes well and that your SE's are non-existent or extremely minimal.

    Take care. 

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited July 2012

    teeballmom: So glad about your news!  I'd love to get a list of the supplements that your pharmacist recommended.  

    Everyone: Have a safe and happy July 4th

  • 25weeks
    25weeks Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2012

    Saw my MO today. She convinced me to go ahead with a port. Also got scans back. Bone scan looked normal, but there were a few areas on my CT scans that got attention: likely fibroids in my uterus, possible ovarian cyst, and something on my liver (apparently consistent with known variant). All are warranting ultrasounds, but MO suspects they are all nothing to be concerned about. I hope she's right. /:



    Even after the blood transfusion last week, my hemoglobin level is still 9-something, so I'll get one or two iron infusions next week before starting chemo the following week, along with a PS appt, at PT appoint, and my port placement. Sheesh.



    I'm hoping for a brand new me by Christmas!!



    And for those of you who have already started, stay strong, and keep us posted!

  • Fredig2
    Fredig2 Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2012

    My veins are pretty good, so no port thus far. My nurse was excellent with IV insertion, so am happy not to have anywhere else that might ache in between treatments.



    Yesterday got up too quickly without having any zofran or compazine, or crackers first...big mistake!! Nausea came roaring...fortunately, I took some compazine and then sat still while I regained my bearings. Then took zofran every 8 hrs, Claritin at bedtime and kept drinking and chewing crackers. Today, I feel so much better....no nausea, not as tired and eating a bit more. My daughter encouraged me to follow this regimen to prevent nausea, rather than deal with its onset.



    So far I've been sensitive to some odors and fending off diarrhea as best I can. Got a little antsy tonite, so got to go for a short ride for ginger ale! I am hoping there will be abreak

    before round #2, but think mouth sensitivity is starting. Just trying to focus on getting #4 behind me.
  • lilypad
    lilypad Member Posts: 23
    edited July 2012

    Hi all ,

    I had my port install yesterday ... It is an arm port just above my elbow but on the innerside of the arm. We tried to the under local anas but was too painful so they sedated me in the end. The site is little sore and swollen but I hope that it susides soon .



    I also had mt first AC infusion today. Took about 2.5 hours and I am feeling slightly queasy and slightly drowsy . But nothing too bad. I ate my lunch ... And hoping the anti nausea mrs will make it stay down . Good luck you guys!!!

  • Jane64
    Jane64 Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2012

    Hi all has any one else broken out in pimples from herceptin. I have and dr prescribed an amointment cream. Just checking. Love reading the posts from everyone so helpful



  • Lauren423
    Lauren423 Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2012

    Hi All - I'll be joining this group!

    I am getting a port placed next week, and then my first treatment is Friday, the 13th...yikes!  

     Jane64 - I read over on the Herceptin thread that there can be some mild acne at the beginning, but many say it goes away.  Hope yours does, too.

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited July 2012

    Lilypad: Hope you feel better every day.  Congratulations on completing your first treatment!

    Fredig2: Hope your nausea subsides with your preventative treatment. 

  • FeelingtheMagic
    FeelingtheMagic Member Posts: 155
    edited July 2012

    Leaping right in here. I started chemo the end of June.. close enough to be a July gal, I think.

    Tballmom.. so glad to hear your thyroid biopsy came back B9. I'm stressing.. I have one scheduled for the 13th. 

    I began my chemo start day by singing this song.  It's posted on my blog and friends and others sang it during their day on my chemo start day. I'm sure all that positive energy helped.
    http://musingalong.wordpress.com/2012/06/24/kemo-kimo-the-magic-song/

    I had a masectomy  - mucinous cancer and dcis, no nodes involved. This would normally mean no chemo. But tests came back HER2 positive, making it now a .2% rare cancer. Top docs in Canada involved and chemo recommended (DCT) 

    Today, 10 days in,  I feel like I'm as high as a kite.. but it's because I am so excited that I feel this well!  First week 'uncomfortable' but do-able.  Extra doses of steroids because I reacted to herceptin, kept me wide awake and hyper, and I had to consciously practice relaxation, have warm baths to get any sleep.  Some tummy discomfort, cold/flu like symtoms.  This week I feel awesome, and I thought I'd be tired because this is when white counts go down.

    I'm especially excited about this seeming so do-able so far, because my daughter had chemo two years ago (rare germ cell cancer with ovary involvement)    Her chemo experience was one of those 'worst case scenario' stories, and I'm not mentioning all about it because it's a "these sweet sistas going into chemo really don't need to hear that" kind of thing. Suffice to say that I had to have a number of tests to ensure I didn't have some of quirks that caused her so many problems.

    My daughter is doing awesome now.. married last summer. All is well. 

    Have been dedicated to an extremely healthy eating plan since diagnosis in April. But was pretty happy last week to suck on sport icepops.. which cooled my mouth and really did ease my tummy.

    Also taking supplements recommended by an integrative care doc - melatonin to help ease finger nerve ending and nail loss damage.  Lglutamine to help reduce mouth sores. Coq10 for heart.  (these supplements don't interfere with the chemo's ability to work) But please don't rush out and get them.. ask your onc... because they might interfere with your chemo protocol.

    My protocol guarantees hair loss, but I know many who did not lose their hair on different breast cancer protocols. Got my hair cut short last week.. and the darndest thing, I love my cute hair cut and will be sad to see it go. 

    And I got out of having a picc!!!  That's because my protocol was changed and one of the more toxic concoctions was taken out of the mix when Top Doc got involved. 

    Okee dokee.. that's what I know so far.  It's great we can support each other. 

    Wishing us all ease, joy and darn it, fun.. during our most curous 'adventure.'

  • Donoc
    Donoc Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2012

    I started TCH on June 28th. Will be going evey 3 weeks until October. I guess I'm close enough to July.

  • Donoc
    Donoc Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2012

    My first treatment was last Thursday. I was slightly nauseous on Saturday, but it was manageable. Sunday, the muscle aches & bone pain started; the nausea was a little worse. I was OK enough to do the 45 minute commute & a full day at work  on Tuesday. Wednesday, my tongue and throat joined the party and that's still going strong today.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    I asked the same question about what day of the week to have chemo from prior chemo threads.  Most tried to schedule their chemos so that they would have the weekend to recover.  It also depends on what kind of chemo you are having and how much help you think you might need and have available when you are having a down time ( some have jobs or young children.)  I have my chemo on Tuesdays.  I'm okay Wednesday & Thursday.  Friday is the day that if I'm going to crash, it is that day!!  I rest Saturday & Sunday and good to go on Monday. 

    Steroids- Steroids may amp you up.  I take Decadron twice a day the day before chemo, the day of chemo and the day after chemo.  I don't sleep well at night for a few days after the first dosage since they keep me a little wired.  I don't get upset about the not sleeping as some do and just nap whenever.  Some take sleeping pills to help them sleep at night.  The steroids can also cause skin breakouts.   

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited July 2012
    Thanks to all for your support and encouragement.  I got the results of my Oncotype DX test, and I don't need chemo after all.   I wish all of you negligible side effects, and excellent results.
  • Jane64
    Jane64 Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2012

    Thank you lauren423. Still have them but going away slowly. Have herceptin only tomorrow and will see what happens.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012
    soltantio- One thing that my onco/her staff/ infusion nurses have all stressed to me throughout my rounds of chemo---- When in doubt, call before the side effects get out of hand.  Don't wait and think you can handle it.  I know some of the side effects are ones that seem to be the same as ones gets when you get the flu.  However, these are due to something else--- the chemo, the anti-nausea drugs, etc.  The oncos expect you to call and want to help you.  I hope that you have a few gal pals or relatives that you can call to help you out.  I'm hoping your side effects are minimal.  BTW- please feel free to roam the April/May 2012 chemo hangout thread.  I'm usually there and you may find some helpful tips about how to handle some of the side effects.  If you have questions, you can always private message me.  We are on the same chemo regimen--- I have 2 rounds left. 
  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2012

    Hi to everyone joining our group! 

    Feelingthemagic:  Good luck on the 13th.  The supplements you're taking are also recommended by the pharmacist turned integrative herbalist that I go to, as well as some other supplements.  I definitely agree with you that everyone needs to check with their ONCs to ensure they're o.k. with it.  My ONC referred me to this gentleman.

    Soltantio:  I decided on a Weds chemo date so I can get my Neulasta shots on a Thursday and then if I start getting any SEs maybe they'll hit Friday night/weekends while my husband is home so he can focus on our 6 and 4 year olds and then I can be good to go on Monday.  That was just my train of thought and my the triag nurse seemed to think it would work best with our little ones.

    So I got my port today on my left upper chest/shoulder area.  Not the big deal I thought it was going to be, but my left arm feels like I've just worked out at the gym with 100 lb weights (not like I can do that anyway on a good day) so my husband and I are thinking it's from the anesthesia because the aching is more around the area where the IV went in. I'll live with that.  My BS said if I feel any discomfort it'll start tomorrow because of how much he numbed around the port area, so I'm good with that, too.

    Right now I'm waiting to see if my GYN calls me back today.  I had my ovaries and tubes removed at the same time as my BMX on 5/29 and since then I've had 2 regular periods, which is not normal (according to her when I called her exchange yesterday to speak with her and the 24/7 nurse through my insurance company).  I was just spotting yesterday, but I was supposed to call her today if I actually had a cycle and sure enough when I woke up this morning SURPRISE!!!  Oh well...... Will call her tomorrow again if she doesn't call me back.  Maybe my ONC doesn't know what to say, but my ONC is not going to like this turn of events when she sees me next week.  I love my ONC because if the GYN doesn't deal with it, I know she will.

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 198
    edited July 2012
    soltantio:  It's a combination of radiation and hormone therapy to fight cancer for me.  The fact that I'm ER/PR+, have a slow growing tumor and post menopausal makes me eligible for this approach.  Finally, a perk for being in menopause!  I feel very very lucky.  I didn't expect to escape chemo, but I figured it was worth the copay to find out.  It was the best $400 I've ever spent!  I wish all of you could escape chemo too....  Be strong and I'll see you in the radiation groups.
  • FeelingtheMagic
    FeelingtheMagic Member Posts: 155
    edited July 2012

    TAb55, Hurray!!!!!!!  Delighted for you!

    Soltantio, because my daughter had 24/7 care during her chemo, I set up a guest bedroom and had all kinds of back up plans. (I live on my own too) So far (now day 11 after first chemo) I had someone stay first night, but didn't need to, and someone stayed night 3 because I was pretty achey.  Otherwise people did come by and do nice things for me, or watch movies a bit, but I didn't feel anyone had to be there.  As of day 8, I've felt great. My nails are all ridged already.. a chance of losing them with this chemo. But i'm willing them to stay on. ~smile~

    The thing we do know about this is that how we respond can be pretty unique. I think planning for someone to be available is a good idea, just in case.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    soltantio- Hopefully, your onco/infusion center provided you with a list of possible side effects of the chemo.  It helps so you have an idea of what the possible side effects can be.  Just because you are given that list, don't assume or presume that you will have every side effect and you will have the worst case of that side effect.  There are things you can do to help in preparation of treatment and after treatment such as make sure you eat 5-6 small meals, drink lots of fluids to help flush out the chemo; take your medications on time and with food and rest, etc. 

    I can't tell you if you will need to have anyone stay with you over the weekend.  It may be a good idea to have someone available if you need a little help or at least call to check on you.  I have two gal pals that call/text me a few days after my treatments to check on me to make sure I'm okay.  It's not like i need someone there 24/7 with me but it is great to have someone check on me periodically to see if I need anything. 

    As for having the flu like symptoms after receiving your treatment, you should know that right before you have  chemo, you will most likely have blood lab work done to make sure your blood counts are high enough to receive the treatment.  I hope that you are given a list of specific side effects to watch for that require you to call your onco immediately (ie high fever-- 100.4 or higher).  If you have any of those type of side effects/symptoms, you call your onco asap 24/7.  Doesn't matter if it's the weekend or in the evening or early morning.  I had a high spikey fever 11 days after my 2nd round and called my onco as soon as I realized that the fever wasn't coming down on its own.  She called in some antibotics for me and fortunately, I did not have to go to the ER. 

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