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  • candygurl
    candygurl Member Posts: 130
    edited June 2012

    I'm not afraid of the sugar in fruits. The enzymes and acids in high water fruits like grapes and watermelon are powerful lymphatic cleansers. My ND recommended that I eat only fruits in the morning on an empty stomach (with probiotics) to aid digestion. I never juice fruits though. I enjoying eating them whole.  

    What I've learned is that fruits also help release heavy and dense energy. Because they vibrant high, we vibrant high on a spiritual level when we eat them.  When I gave up eating my 3 pancakes, 2 sausages, 2 eggs and black coffee every morning and started eating lots of fruits instead, I noticed that I started listening to my heart more and got more mental clarity, so my mood is a lot better.    

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    Abigail, humans are the only species who drink milk past weaning. And humans are the only species that drink another species milk.  We are not calves.  Whose bright idea was it for us to drink cow's milk? The food pyramid is retarded. I think we were never meant to have dairy products in our diets.  It's no coincidence why so many people are lactose intolerant and allergic to it. What's more, when we buy pasteurized milk at the grocery store, we are supporting an industry that tortures cows and produces a dirty, filthy product. Hippocrates said "all disease begins in the gut." We are only now beginning to realize just how right he was.  Maybe this video will help stifle your craving for dairy.   

    The disgusting treatment of (conventional) dairy cows:
    WATCH  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzS8p727gvM

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2012

    Thanks Notself for the link - very telling isn't ?

    "this is incredibly interesting because it shows that the foods you eat and the way you eat them can affect your mood and your temperament. Foods do that by affecting the levels of different hormones in your bloodstream over time"

    hum...Zuvart...I think I'll pass on the video....hate hate to see animals suffer, I love cows !!  

    I do love dairy though, cheese, cottage, etc., yogurt, kefir, goat milk not to mention lactoserum. I buy bio hoping the animals are better treated.  Got some good material on dairy, it's buried in piles though. Daniel Vitalis on colostrum: 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMpM9m9RLOw&feature=related

    Really interesting the energy/food relation you bring to the table, we should expand on that Wink

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited June 2012

    When I was in a psychology class years ago I did a paper on food and how it affects your mood. What I found out changed my life - seriously--

    I now know that all processed foods makes me feel nervous or depressed or anxious. So I eat them sparingly.  When I cook things from scratch I immediately feel calm and content.  No highs or lows which is much better.

    I do fall off the wagon and eat sweets - get the super high feeling and then the horrible low one.

    When I did the research I found out many famous people suffered from depression including Winston Churchill, Einstein, etc.  It is felt that their depression was caused by diet.

    I am sure modern day diets are even worse due to all the additives we didn't have years ago.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited July 2012

    great yam link, & right, I've been eating dark sweet potatoes, & I knew that...........re:  dairy:  I'll pass on the video as well, but it's even worse than too big protein molecules for humans, all dairy cows have veru bad disease viruses, & It's too disgusting to say what else in in milk.  I've known all ehis for a very long time too.  bread is bad yoo, refined carbs & the yeast which will overgrow everywhere.  I give it a break once a year, sometimes more, I pretty much only eat stuff like that, baked stuff, once a week on market day, so I don;t need to cook when I get back tired.  great excuse, huh?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Dogsandjogs, you might enjoy this book which has received very good reviews on Amazon; I've added it to my ever growing list 

    Here's an article he wrote: http://macrobiotics.co.uk/articles/foodenergetics.htm

    Another version of food energetics is the Eastern one:

    Chinese nutritional science or food energetics is the study of electromagnetic patterns of foods and how these vibrations effects the human body. Think of food energetics in terms of frequencies: imagine your body is a radio and each music station is a different food. When the foods you eat are appropriate for your body constitution, the music on the radio is crisp and clear. But when you eat foods that interfere with your body's frequency, the interference disrupts the music and causes static. In other words, your body is unable to function to the best of its ability due to a particular food's frequency disrupting the bodily resonance.

    We each have a particular body constitution, much like our personalities, which makes us individual and unique. By eating the correct foods for your constitution, you're feeding your body what it craves and needs to be healthy and balanced. For example, someone with a body constitution that is dry and warm would benefit from eating a diet of foods that brings moisture to the body while cooling it down. If you continue to eat drying or warming foods, then the body would be akin to a car engine over heating. Just as all foods have a particular energy and characteristics, so do each of our bodies

    In the west food is described as possessing certain quantities of nutrients (this much protein, that much iron, this much vitamin A etc). Eastern understanding is derived from the observation of human behaviour once a food is taken into the body. Food is assessed according to the nature and quality of its Qi. All foods are seen as having certain behaviours when they enter the human body. Some foods activate our metabolism, some foods slow us down; some foods generate warmth in the body, some generate coolness; some foods are moistening, some drying; some nourish our kidneys, others our liver or heart

    http://www.meridianpress.net/articles/energeticsoffood.html

    An article by D. Leggett: http://www.balancedwayconsulting.ca/Documents/food-SP.pdf

    Very interesting stuff ! 

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited July 2012

    Thanks so much Maud!  I'm going to buy or order this book from the library.

    I am so sensitive to foods - especially now that I'm older - never noticed it in my youth and when mention it to other people most of them say they don't notice mood changes with food.

    But it isn't just mood changes. The other night I was eating a frozen dinner (not too unhealthy, but still not ideal) and afterwards I felt very uneasy. Hard to explain, I just suddenly didn't feel right - nothing I could pinpoint though. I got a glass of water (which helped) and decided I really have to cut out frozen dinners completely.

    Maybe I was just dehydrated - I sometimes forget how important water is.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Dogsandjogs, you're welcome Wink 

    Since the 'barbaric' treatments, I've had a total loss of appetite, not me, I love my food !! I don't feel hunger anymore Frown I was losing a lot of weight a few months back, so I started to force feed so to speak.  I try to eat every few hours, but then, digestion is really laborious and tormenting. Maybe, I should ask to be referred to a gastroenterologist, but then, I'm afraid of what could be found.  I take betaine and digestive enzymes when I think about it.  

    Maybe, a juice fast would sort all this out.  Oh God grant me the discipline !

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Maud, I have found acidophilus to help greatly with the various digestive issues of treatment and its aftermath.



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012
    Thanks Momine, because I keep the probiotics in the fridge, I keep forgetting about them Yell
  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Maud, I do the same and had the same problem. I fnally got into the habit of setting up the pills along with my breakfast.



    I became a true believer with the probiotics when they cured me of chronic yeast infections many moons ago. Now they are keeping my digestive system humming in spite of the femara.



    I have also seen suggestions here and there that keeping your gut humming may have other benefits as well, like maybe even warding off cancer.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2012

    and supposedly depression too Momine.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Dune, I didn't know that. Interesting!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Good to see all of you.  Stopped in to read.  Our ppower was out 2 days aftee teerrible windstorm, so was gone awhile. 

    Am awaiting my biopsy report which dr deems I don't get until the 10th though had biopsy last Thursday.  Cancer or not, just tell me, I don't need the details of ER PR HER2 upfront, just a yes or no will get me through.  Good news, I am either NED or stage 4.  Eitehr the PET CT showed the infection or cancer nodes.  

    Better news, found a chiro in aarea who ddeals w  cancer and is not afraid to.  Cell tests, nblood tests that are going to show how my alt tx are managing cancer, far sooner than allopathic tests.  He has a thermogram tooo.  I really like him.  Along w the place I get the UVB and H2O2 and Vit C IVs and all, this will be good for me.  I had a bottle of Protandim sentt to me on autoship that arrived day after punch biopsy in LE arm, against my will they used punch while I was out of it, and they knew how hesitant I was to oeven have needle biopsy.  But I think the protandim got me through w no infection cuz  I was getting worse by Fri morn and inf left though swelling is still there today, but not so bad as could have been I think.

    I am using kefir and yogurt I made from raw cow's milk, there wwere trials at Mayo of healing cancer from cow's milk, but it was unpasteurized I believe, and it is not something that people need, except  for healing, colostrum incl.  I get some of that ea month too, but the calves get their fill always, it is a good dairy farm, organic, humane, all woodsy w ponds and nice people there who love the aminals.  Havve to run, sister is on her way for the afternoon, : )

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012
    DianeEssa, glad to see you sounding better, yu go girl Wink
  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited July 2012

    Essa, still praying the biopsy is NED. Hand in there kiddo!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Yup, you're right Momine, loads of research on the subject: 

    Lactic Acid Bacteria and their Effect on the Immune System Antitumour Activity

    During the last two decades, the anticarcinogenic properties of LAB and of yogurt have been extensively studied. A great emphasis has been laid on the antitumour property exerted by yogurt. Most of the scientific evidence came from animals models but no evidence has been reported from humans.
    Shahani et al. (1983) demonstrated in mice fed with fermented colostrum that the growth of an experimental tumour was inhibited. Reddy et al.(1983) and Ayebo et al. (1982) studied whether the antitumour effect observed was exerted by the presence of LAB in the fermented milks or by components of their cell wall, or by products produced as a consequence of the fermentation process. Ayebo (1981) isolated a dialysable antitumour component from yogurt. Goldin and Gorbach (1980) showed in mice that L. acidophilus orally administered induced a decrease in the incidence of the colon cancer caused by 1-2 dimethylhydrazine dihydrochloride (DMH).
    Kato et al. (1981, 1985) found that the intraperitoneal administration of L. casei inhibited tumour growth in syngeneic and allogenic mice, and that the effect was dose dependent. Yasutake et al. (1984a) observed that the intratumour administration of L.casei produced a total inhibition of the tumour, while simultaneous injection of L. casei in different body sites had no effect on tumour growth

    http://www.open-access-biology.com/probiotics/perdigon/perdigon.html

    Lactic Acid Bacteria and Bifidobacteria: Current Progress in Advanced Research

    http://www.horizonpress.com/lactic-acid-bacteria

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Maud, thanks, another good reason to take it.

    By the way, my mother started taking it after she went through chemo 5 years ago. Maybe it is one of the reasons she is cancer-free still (it was ovarian cancer). But she also used to get pneumonia ALL the time, like 2-3 times every winter for ten years. It was a mess. Since she started the probiotics she has not had pneumonia once. It would sort of make sense, since mucuous membranes are involved, but still pretty impressive, I think. 

  • candygurl
    candygurl Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2012

    Maud, I swear by the blood type diet, since removing the foods that are supposedly incompatible with my blood type, I digest foods a lot better.  In your case, I wonder if the dairy products are just adding fuel to the fire. Your blood type is A?  Most dairy products are not digestible for Type As.  If I were you, I'd cut out even fermented dairy completely and see if maybe that makes a difference and take probiotics as a replacement and make almond yogurt.

    What's interesting though is that for some people RAW milk has been shown to improve digestion and boost overall immunity. The way a cow is raised, when it is milked, and how its milk is handled and processed makes a real difference in whether or not the end product promotes health (or death).

    Also, human breast milk may someday become a common treatment for cancer patients. I've seen promising studies about that. The component of breast milk that kills cancer cells is called Human Alphalactalbumin Made Lethal to Tumor cells, or HAMLET. 

     BTW, yams and sweet potatoes have a strong deleterious effect on the Type A digestive tract. See www.drlam.com/blood_type_diet/print/blood_a.htm

    And a juice fast is the best gift you can give your intestinal tract, especially after having gone through all the standard treatments.  It will help to flush out toxins from your cells, tissues and organs, so your body can be rebuilt on a stronger foundation, so definitely do it.  It's not easy, but keep in mind that while you're waiting on God to grant you discipline, He's waiting on you to fully focus and start juicing His medicines to help answer your real prayer, which is to live the remainder of your life cancer-free.  All relationships need reciprocity to work, right?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Thanks for the link & kick in the butt Zuvart, I needed it Lol

    Will check what Dr. D'Adamo says about dairy, would really hate to cut it out Frown Like I said, I get most dairy from sheep and goat, not cows

    Different minerals. Although the mineral content of goat's milk and cow's milk is generally similar, goat's milk contains 13 percent more calcium, 25 percent more vitamin B-6, 47 percent more vitamin A, 134 percent more potassium, and three times more niacin. It is also four times higher in copper. Goat's milk also contains 27 percent more of the antioxidant selenium than cow's milk. Cow's milk contains five times as much vitamin B-12 as goat's milk and ten times as much folic acid (12 mcg. in cow's milk versus 1 mcg. for goat's milk per eight ounces with an RDA of 75-100 mcg. for children)

    Goats' Milk Is More Beneficial To Health Than Cows' Milk 

    Results obtained in the study reveal that ferropenic anaemia and bone demineralisation caused by this pathology have a better recovery with goat milk. Due to the higher bioavailability of iron, calcium, phosphorus and magnesium, the restoration of altered haematological parameters and the better levels of parathyroid hormone (PTH), a hormone that regulates the calcium balance in the organism was found in the rats that consumed this food.

    Javier Díaz Castro points out that the inclusion of goat milk with normal or double calcium content in the diet "favours digestive and metabolic utilisation of iron, calcium and phosphorus and their deposit in target organs - parts of the organism to which these minerals are preferably sent - involved in their homeostatic regulation."

    According to this researcher, all these conclusions reveal that regular consumption of goat milk - a natural food with highly beneficial nutritional characteristics - "has positive effects on mineral metabolism, recovery from ferropenic anaemia and bone mineralisation in rats. In addition, and unlike observations in cow milk, its calcium enrichment does not interfere in the bioavailability of the minerals studied."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070730100229.htm

    http://oklahoma4h.okstate.edu/litol/file/animal/dairy/N-424_web.pdf

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Maud, for what it is worth, my daughter had asthma as a kid and avoided cow's milk, but could deal with goat's milk without a problem.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited July 2012

    Maud,

    Great post.  My mother told me I couldn't keep cow's milk down as a baby and soy milk caused massive upset.  Finally she gave me fresh goat's milk and it did the trick.  Goat's milk is much more digestible than cow's milk, probably because humans domesticated sheep and goats long before they domesticated cattle. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Momine and Notself, glad goat milk resolved serious issues with you both.  I have iron deficiency anemia plus the bone loss I will incur as a result of stopping Tamox - hoping these issues will also be resolved Smile 

    "ferropenic anaemia and bone demineralisation caused by this pathology have a better recovery with goat milk. Due to the higher bioavailability of iron, calcium, phosphorus and magnesium, the restoration of altered haematological parameters and the better levels of parathyroid hormone (PTH), a hormone that regulates the calcium balance in the organism was found in the rats that consumed this food

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited July 2012

    Is goat milk ok then for those of us with er+ then? I've been drinking almond milk, but need to think about bone loss from the AL's I'm on.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Kira, I really don't know. The info on dairy seems quite confused for the most part. I have repeatedly seen stuff about fermented milk, kefir specifically but yogurt may qualify as well, being beneficial.



    My take is that goat milk is usually not produced in quite such forced and disgusting ways as cow's milk. At leastbhere in Greece, goats are not milked when pregnant for example. It is also easier to get organic goat milk here than organic cow milk.



    I try to stay away from concentrated dairy fat, so no cream, butter and yellow cheese.



    When I do eat cheese, I eat small amounts and stick to organic goat feta.



    If I make pancakes, I use organic kefir for the dairy.



    So, I am basically eating it in moderation and trying to stay away from commercial cow milk as much as possible (although I can't give it up in my morning coffee).

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited July 2012

    I just had a bone scan and my bone density has improved!  The improvement is slight but one of my lumbar vertebrae went from osteoporosis to osteopenia.  Every area of my spine improved.  I think the improvement is due to getting my Vitamin D3 level up above 50ng/ml and to getting my potassium level up to normal after running in the low range since I started on Arimidex.  I have also started taking magnesium since the average calcium pill does not contain sufficient magnesium.

    I suggest that anyone with low bone density have their Vitamin D3 and Potassium levels checked.  Low normal is not good enough.  One should be in mid range for both.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited July 2012

    Notself, that is excellent and thanks for the info.



    I have osteopenia in my spine, and I would like to keep it from progressing.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Kira - the bone foods are not especially dairy, you need to look to your green stuff mostly.  And Vitamin D3.  Also, I often take a Sea Calcium product, a supplement that does not lodge in joints when you get too much, as most calcium supplements will do, lodging in spine and knees, etc.  I use Nature's Sunshine powder myself, for both me and the skunks. 

    Raw dairy, I don't recommend anyone do this, I am acting as a gineau pig for myself, I first was drinking regular organic dairy and yogurt from store and still growing stuff in breasts so  went off it for months and still they grew so I switched to the raw, organic and esp the fermented kefir..... things stopped growing, even went away when I added other supplements.  For my body, this is working.  But I still might get positive tests for cancer from lymph nodes but nothing is growing in breasts anymore.  

    btw, did I mention I have an appt w a chiro who deals w people like me?  Am so thrilled to find him.  Thursday.  Perhaps he can get those path reports too, he wants to know as much as I do.  Even if NED, I need him to continue my journey and learn how to stay NED for the rest of my life, this is never over, this I know.   btw, he will be explaining tests that show how our cells are responding to our natural txs too, I will tell more as I know, but he says thisi shows way beforethe allopathic tests reveal that something is amiss. 

    I do feel better, but am definitely not thrilled w treatment I received at oncs office, no way, and then the punch biopsy in LE arm, what a mess, he is going to hear about this before I exit for good.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited July 2012
    Is thermography routine covered by ins. ? Does anyone know, generally speaking?

    THX
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    generally speaking, never that I know.  Have heard it is standard in Canada, instead of mammos, is that true, anyone?

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2012

    Tried to find the answer online re: thermography in Canada. According to HealthCanada it is not a licensed procedure. Can any of our Canadian ladies provide more info?

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