Alternative Treatment

best for pain in my estimation:  ice.  icecubes in a ziplock bag. aply where needed as long as you can do it.

Do not use an anti-inflammatory if you are on blood thinners unless you check with the doctor who prescribed the blood thinner.  Bromelain should never be used by someone on blood thinners. 

I will ask my local pharmacist as the doctor is impossible to get a hold of.  There must be a product  which helps with inflammation that people taking blood thinners can use.

Thanks!

& it's not amdro:  an insecticide. wikki has nothing, probably a way wrong spelling?

Lily55, My diagnosis was similar to yours, see my signature, and I dropped out of chemo after 2 rounds, much to everyone's disapproval.  My decision was based on reviews of many studies which concluded that hormonal treatment alone for those of us with lobular only had similar results to chemo plus hormonal.  If yours is grade 3 then that would be different as grade 3 tumours are generally highly responsive to chemo.  Also I saw many studies showing that primary lobular tumours rarely have a good response to neoadjuvant chemo, that is, chemo given before surgery.  Of course there are exceptions to that and neoadjuvant chemo at least shrinks inoperable tumours and lets women see if the chemo is doing any good, whereas when given after surgery we have no feedback.  I can't find the study link now but will post it for you when I find it.

I'm coming up to my 3rd anniversary since my surgery and am still fine, though of course that's no indication of how anyone else will be at 3 years after dropping out of chemo.    Best wishes for your treatment decisions and outcomes.

gary says 6 days old the best, & growing them yourself, but of course you have to do it.

a lifetime, age 9? on of asprin use, I stopped 5 years ago.  no more, or less by far indigestion, loved the way it lowered temperature in migraine, but am very glad I no longer use it.  green tea & now mega green tea works well on all fronts.  someone, years ago, said carrott juice was a painkiller.....anti inflamatory??

Just looked up carrot juice on PubMed.  I love that site.  Here is a link. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22292424

Here is what the abstract said.

Effects of a carrot juice intervention on plasma carotenoids, oxidative stress, and inflammation in overweight breast cancer survivors.

Butalla AC, Crane TE, Patil B, Wertheim BC, Thompson P, Thomson CA.

Source

Department of Nutritional Sciences, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona 85721, USA.

Abstract

Evidence suggests that higher plasma carotenoid concentrations are protective in relation to breast cancer recurrence. This simple randomized carrot juice intervention study was designed to test the hypothesis that daily intake of 8 ounces of fresh BetaSweet (anthocyanin-rich) or Balero orange carrot juice would increase plasma total carotenoid concentrations to levels previously shown to be associated with reduced breast cancer recurrence. It was hypothesized that regular carrot juice intake would be associated with reductions in oxidative stress (8-iso-PGF2α) and inflammation (thromboxane B2, prostaglandin E2 metabolites, and hsC-reactive protein). Sixty-nine overweight breast cancer survivors consumed fresh carrot juice made from study-provided carrots for 3 wk. Total plasma carotenoids increased by 1.65 and 1.38 umol/L for the BetaSweet and Balero carrot juice, respectively. Rise in total plasma carotenoids for the overall sample was inversely associated with 8-iso-PGFα (OR: 0.13; 95% CI: 0.20 to 0.75; no differences were shown by carrot variety. These results suggest daily intake of fresh carrot juice is a simple and effective approach to increasing plasma total carotenoids and in turn reducing oxidative stress, but not inflammatory markers, in women previously treated for breast cancer.

Lily55, with only having 75% normal kidney function, I can certainly understand why you'd say no to chemo. Kidney damage results if enough cells are killed with chemo. Therefore, you'd just be trading one serious medical condition for another.

I've read that  hydrating the body with fluids, strict diet modifications, low dose chemo and bicarbonate (aluminum-free baking soda) all help to heal the body and reduce the risk of kidney damage while treating cancer in a targeted fashion.  See the links below.

I have never heard of sono photodynamic therapy. Could you explain what it?

Daily dose of baking soda could stop kidney patients needing dialysis
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1200287/Daily-dose-baking-soda-stop-kidney-patients-needing-dialysis.html#ixzz1zAn0A26Q

Topic: News on Baking Soda & Cancer                           community.breastcancer.org/forum/121/topic/785203

Dr. Walter Lemmo discusses the history and application of insulin potentiated therapy in cancer                                                                                                                                                                    Watch  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHrKcdSRjFo%20

Treat cancer with the natural remedies in Insulin Potentiated Therapy                                                                                                                                                          Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033421_insulin_potentiation_therapy_cancer.html#ixzz1zAqs5IIi

Kidney failure due to cancer & chemotherapy       

http://www.livestrong.com/article/142238-kidney-failure-due-cancer-chemotherapy/#ixzz1zApbGCiM

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Dogsandjogs, the best natural anti-inflammatory is veggie juices-carrots, leafy greens, ginger and herbs.  Try juicing at least 500ml of juice EVERYDAY.  That is real medicine.  Try staying away from acidic foods like pasteurized dairy, caffeine, too many cooked foods etc.  They contribute to pain, inflammation, acidosis, cell stagnation etc.  BTW purple carrots are 28  times more powerful than orange carrots.

Zuvart: Thank so much. I do have a juicer, but got out of the daily habit. Will have to start again. I quit eating dairy products about 7 months ago and can't have caffeine due to atrial fibrillation.

I talked to a pharmacist. She also said no drugs for inflammation if you take blood thinners. She suggested soaking my foot in epsom salts.

Abigail, you're a wealth of info ! carrots contain inulin, therefore sugar is not an issue.  Brilliant.  Many many 'cancer people' are afraid of juicing carrots for that reason.  How about beets ?

gary has said that beets make strong blood.  I guess that's good, but I wonder about the transport of blood to the site, not good if that gets strong????? I do juice beets from time to time though, they're not that sweet when raw.  as for inulin I don't know if that's true.  I just report what I've heard, you-all, joy etc do the difficult work

as always appreciate your taking the lead & running with it

I eat yams a lot.  when I researched this stuff awhile ago I read that yams & parsnips arn't estrogenic.  seemed counterintuitive about yams. I think of the african princesses who ate a lot of them to be beautifully fat.  that indicated estrogen to me, but perhaps not,

I'm really busy at the moment, not much computer time, but had to stop and say what wonderful info I'm reading here.  Zuvart, Maud, Abigail, all whetting my appetite for more investigations.  I bought some purple carrot seeds last year but misplaced them.  I hope they're still viable when I find them.  Lots of colour on the plate means lots of different flavonoids, nutrients, enzymes and other cancer fighting goodies going to work in our bodies.  Some are yet to be discovered so variety and colour in natural foods are the key factors for me.

All carbohydrates are converted into sugar.  The body runs on sugar.  The differences between carbohydrates and simple table sugar is explained pretty clearly in this link.  http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/food2.htm

You may have heard that eating complex carbohydrates is a good thing, and that eating sugar is a bad thing. You may even have felt this in your own body. The following quote from The Yale Guide to Children's Nutrition explains why:

      If complex carbohydrates are broken down to monosaccharides in the intestines before they are absorbed into the bloodstream, why are they better than refined sugar or other di- or mono-saccharides? To a great extent it has to do with the processes of digestion and absorption. Simple sugars require little digestion, and when a child eats a sweet food, such as a candy bar or a can of soda, the glucose level of the blood rises rapidly. In response, the pancreas secretes a large amount of insulin to keep blood glucose levels from rising too high. This large insulin response in turn tends to make the blood sugar fall to levels that are too low 3 to 5 hours after the candy bar or can of soda has been consumed. This tendency of blood glucose levels to fall may then lead to an adrenaline surge, which in turn can cause nervousness and irritability... The same roller-coaster ride of glucose and hormone levels is not experienced after eating complex carbohydrates or after eating a balanced meal because the digestion and absorption processes are much slower.   

If you think about it, this is incredibly interesting because it shows that the foods you eat and the way you eat them can affect your mood and your temperament. Foods do that by affecting the levels of different hormones in your bloodstream over time.