Lymphedema IN the Breast...

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KellyJo1987
KellyJo1987 Member Posts: 1
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema
My mom recentely had a lumpectomy. She now has lymphedema IN her breast and nowhere else so far. We have read that this is not very common. She has tried wearing two+ bras at a time and are going to get some better "compression" bras. Has anyone ever had this problem? Or have any advice on how to help get rid of this. Thanks :)

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  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 2,101
    edited May 2012

    I have LE in my both breasts although it is more evident in my non-cancer left foob.  As far as I know, nothing can 'get ride of' LE, but it can be managed with Manual Lympahtic Drainage, compression garments and swell spots.  I use all three... a great resource is http://www.stepup-speakout.org/ where you can learn about difference compression garments and how to find a QUALIFIED therapist.

    Good luck

  • lrr4993
    lrr4993 Member Posts: 937
    edited May 2012

    I have (or had) it in my lumpectomy breast and my ribs on that side.  I had to quit wearing a bra because it was so painful.  I switched to Spanx camis (the extra supportive ones) and my rib pain is now nearly non-existant any my breast pain and red splotches (that was the first sign of it) are gone. 

  • kira66715
    kira66715 Member Posts: 4,681
    edited May 2012

    Breast lymphedema is very common, there was a recent article that suggested that it occurred in over 50% of the patients treated with breast conservation. They looked at edema: most common in the lower portion of the breast and redness: usually all over.

    The treatment is lymphedema therapy: massage to move the fluid out and compression garments.

    Here is a link to the page on it in stepupspeakout:

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/breast_chest_trunckal_lymphedema.htm

    It's very common

    Here's the link to the article:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22415476

    in the conclusion: Breast lymphedema occurs in approximately one-half of women who undergo breast surgery with axillary node removal.

    There was an "ask the expert" about it on bc.org

    http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/lymphedema/ask_expert/2008_04/question_07.jsp

    Amy: Does lymphedema only occur in the arm or can it be in the breast as well?


    Answers -Nicole Stout, M.P.T., C.L.T.-L.A.N.A. : Absolutely! Not only can it be in the breast as well, it can be exclusively in the breast and chest wall, even if it does not appear in the arm. So we need to recognize that breast edema and chest wall edema exist and should be treated.


    Jennifer Sabol, M.D., F.A.C.S. : As a surgeon, I probably see it more acutely than most and have a more difficult time getting other physicians to acknowledge that there is such an entity as lymphedema of the breast which is actually quite uncomfortable for some patients as well as alarming, because it is difficult to ask for treatment for swollen breasts. I think maybe you can comment on how you manage patients like this.


    Nicole Stout, M.P.T., C.L.T.-L.A.N.A. : I would say, first of all, recognition is part of the key. I believe anecdotally that I am seeing more frequency of breast and chest wall swelling - lymphedema, if you will - now with the sentinel node biopsy, as we are removing the direct drainage pathway out of the breast. Unfortunately, it is going far underrecognized. Treatment for breast and chest wall lymphedema is analogous to the way we would treat the arm, meaning that the patients would require lymphatic drainage, compression, therapy, exercise, and skin care. Many of these patients will require custom fit or near-custom compression bras.


    Kathryn Schmitz, Ph.D., M.P.H., F.A.C.S.M.: I would say this is an international problem. I was at the Australasian Lymphology Association meeting in Perth in March, and this issue of seeing more breast edema was a theme there. It seems to me that the compression garments and treatments available are not as advanced as they are for arm edema, the compression garments in particular.


    Nicole Stout, M.P.T., C.L.T.-L.A.N.A. : I would agree with that to an extent. I think there are excellent compression bras that exist. I agree with you that we are as not highly evolved in this area in recognition, treatment, and management as we are with the arms.


    Jennifer Sabol, M.D., F.A.C.S. : I would add one note of hope, and it is sort of anecdotal. I think this is one of the few times that lymphedema does have a tendency to regress. It's probably due to the acute injury of the radiation therapy. Breast edema does tend to go down over time, though it may not disappear. It is a very slow resolution of the edema and it's almost never complete. I generally tell patients to expect a very slow, ongoing improvement, even over 2 to 3 years after their radiation therapy, until they reach a stable plateau. I'd be curious if you two have found the same sort of better overall prognosis for the breast edema.



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