A component in celery and celery fights bc

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited May 2012

    Sorry, the header should read CELERY and PARSLEY.  (Chemobrain)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    Very interesting.

  • mkkjd60
    mkkjd60 Member Posts: 583
    edited May 2012

    What is quite disturbing when I read about this is that no pharma is interested in pursuing it because the ingredients are found in nature. My mom took hrt for 12 years and is stage iv. She could benefit from something like this but alas......

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited May 2012

    The ingredients for LOTS and LOTS of medications (Big Pharma) and supplements (Big Herba) are found in nature.  

    The argument that nobody wants to pursue xyz because it can't be patented is just not true.

    Profit-driven motives aren't exclusive to "Big Pharma," and neither is the ability to patent/manufacture/market natural-based or completely synthetic substances.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited May 2012

    If there's a lack of interest from pharmaceutical companies in this research, perhaps it has to do with this aspect of it:

    "MU researchers found apigenin shrank a type of breast cancer tumor that is stimulated by progestin, a synthetic hormone given to women to ease symptoms related to menopause."

    In other words, it's their stupid HRT that causes this type of bc, a fact they denied and hid for years.  (Oh, don't get me on my soapbox...)      Deanna 

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited May 2012

    I, recently, read in a local newspaper archive (an article dated May 2010) that - one of the reasons it's taken so long to get to the human clinical trial stage for Metformin as a potential breast cancer drug - is that the company that makes the drug would have had to take it "off patent" in order to do the clinical trial.  And, since taking it "off patent" would have meant that any pharmaceutical company could, then, have manufactured the drug, the company holding Metformin's patent wouldn't participate in a clinical trial because they would lose too much money.  And no other pharmaceutical company would fund a clinical trial because - with no high-cost, patent-protected drug to sell after the trial was completed - it wasn't worth their while.  So funding for the trial had to come from other sources: the NCIC clinical trials group funded by the Canadian Cancer Society; the National Cancer Institute in the USA; and the Breast Cancer Research Foundation in New York.

    Shameful, huh?  Sometimes I wonder if we're never going to see a prevention/cure in our lifetime ...

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited May 2012

    Hi Deanna,

    I completely agree with your outrage about HRT, but I think Big Herba is at least as guilty as Big Pharma, so the same could be said for any lack of interest from supplement companies.  

    I know you and I disagree about this part of it, but BHRT and HRT are both potentially carcinogenic.  

    In my opinion, it's not really even about Big Pharma versus Big Herba.  It's the fact that this article admits, "This is the first study to show that apigenin, which can be extracted from celery, parsley and many other natural sources, is effective..."

    To me, that shows that it's not ready for the "big time" yet.  Mouse studies are notoriously bad at translating into human results.   It does look promising, don't get me wrong, but investors want lots more evidence of efficacy than a single study done on mice before they're willing to fork over too much cash.  If or when the research reaches that critical point, I'll bet dollars to donuts the big pharm and big nutra companies will be racing to the bank to get in on the action.

  • luv_gardening
    luv_gardening Member Posts: 1,393
    edited May 2012

    Apigenin - Why Fruits And Vegetables Improve Patient Response To Chemotherapy
    By News Staff | October 22nd 2008

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    Apigenin is also found in the Chinese and Japanese herb Platycodon grandiflorum (Chinese bellflower root) used against cancer.

    J Med Food. 2010 Apr;13(2):298-305.
    Platycodin D induces apoptosis in MCF-7 human breast cancer cells.
    Yu JS, Kim AK.
    Source

    College of Pharmacy, Sookmyung Women's University, Seoul, Republic of Korea.
    Abstract

    Platycodin D (PD), a major constituent isolated from the root of Platycodon grandiflorum, has been suggested to possess anticancer activities, as indicated by its capabilities to induce mitotic arrest and apoptosis in several cancer cells. However, little is known of the underlying action mechanism. This study is the first to investigate the anticancer effect of PD in the human breast cancer cell, MCF-7. Our data showed that PD exhibited marked cell growth inhibition by inducing apoptosis. This induction was associated with activation of caspase-8 and -9 activities and poly(ADP-ribose) polymerase. PD triggered the mitochondrial apoptotic pathway, as indicated by up-regulation of levels of cellular Bax and down-regulation of levels of Bcl-2 and caspase-9 activation. We found that PD induced proteolytic activation of Bid, a member of the proapoptotic Bcl-2 family, implicating PD-induced apoptosis as possibly being functionally linked to a death receptor-mediated pathway. The PD treatment also was accompanied by an increase in cellular generation of reactive oxygen species, indicating that PD-induced apoptosis is likely to be mediated through mitochondrial dysfunction. In addition, we revealed that the mitogen-activated protein kinases, including extracellular signal-regulated kinase 1/2, c-Jun NH(2)-terminal kinase 1/2, and p38, which play important roles in apoptosis, were activated by treatment with PD. These results provide a basic mechanism for the anticancer properties of PD and suggest that PD is a promising candidate for chemotherapy and chemoprevention of breast cancer.

    PMID: 20412017 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

  • mkkjd60
    mkkjd60 Member Posts: 583
    edited May 2012

    As the article says, the pharma industry can't profit from something you can grow in your garden. That says it all to me.

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