February 2012 MX
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Have some pockets available, seeing PS tomorrow to see if we can begin to get this show on the road
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I'll jump in your pocket tomorrow.
The last week my incision has become more painful under my arm where it ends. I don't know if it's from wearing a bra and foob more or what. It doesn't look infected, but it's really sensitive. Could it be the numbness wearing off? Anyone else experience this?
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Hey there Fab Febbies,
Does anyone have a reconstruction roster going? If people can post some dates, I could try to keep a list.
Galsal?
Dixiemine 5-21-12?
Deborah 4-30-12 Replace TE with saline on MX; saline exchange and lift on non MX
So far, so good. Pain not a problem and no SE's with AI.
Get my drain removed Weds. because my PS is on vacation and that's soonest his partner can fit me in. It could have been pulled Friday or this morning. Odd, second time around- no big deal. No shower since 4-30-12. But, I know the drill-the shallow baths, upper body wipe downs and electric shaver humming. Washed my own hair and had hairdresser wash first time. Ho hum. Happy not to be a rookie.
BTW, I'm wondering if any of you wonder what I'm wondering?
Sometimes the Stage IV thread is running because of a topic and I didn't realize it was a Stage IV thread. I respect their space. But I have read some of the DXs. Some of the early DX's are like mine. ER+PR+Her- Stage I zero nodes and then the next time it came back- all of the sudden it's mets. As in no nodes one year to mets next time it came back.
So, what I'm wondering is what type of monitoring goes on between an originally very promising DX with no node involvement to a mets? Does BCO address this in any of their sponsored information topics (as opposed to reading discussion boards)? I really would like to understand this better. I would feel voyeuristic reading the Stage IV threads as opposed to occasionally stumbling upon them when signing in. I understand that our Stage IV sisters have enough to deal with rather than school us "newbies".
Also, is there any statistical correlation to a concept such as "peak recurrence" time frames? For example, I'll pull this out of the air- say about 4-5 years between cancers is an average or it's purely random? I appreciate that it could return at any time or no time. But is there a statistical time frame where if a few cells are wanderlust, they didn't show up in the nodes and it takes about X amount of years on average for them to show up as mets?
Truly, I'm just about done. My reconstruction is almost completed, I'll be on AIs for 5 years and if I continue with no SE with my AI, I presume I will be able to put this in the past.
I just wonder about being vigilant....How the heck does one go from node negative, Stage I, BMX to mets out of the blue?
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Deborah, as of right now there's NO date. Hoping for a successful PS appt this afternoon, meaning at least scheduling the artery test if not the recon itself!
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Deborah2012, I don't have a date yet. Probably end of July because at the end of April, PS said I had to wait three months! I will let you know. I will be replacing TE with implant on left and reduction/lift on the right.
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Deborah 2012, I think the recurrence times are based on statistics. I've seen 3 years for TNS (I think that was who) and 5 years for ER+. I've also wondered about the followup. My onc said a mammo on the undisturbed side in a year. I have a checkup every 4 months for the first year. After that, I don't know. I know how you feel, the stage 1, 0 nodes now mets give me spooky feelings also. I think being aware of your body and noticing differences is very important.
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Yes, May 21 for me. Just 2 short weeks out....I'm sure I'll be a nervous wreck :-) So glad to hear Deborah's was a piece of cake.
Wren -- I've had the same pain lately. Freaky, I figure it's healing.
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Hi Wren...I still have a stitch sticking out at the end on the RT and the skin on the top is still numb but underneath sometimes I can feel a weird pain. My sister told me it was the nerves finding their way back. I am not sure I will ever feel the skin on my chest.
Date wise, the BMX withTE's was Feb. 29th and I had my final exchange was April 12th without any problems. The ovaries out the 12th also with no pain at this point, just hot flashes.
Treatment date starts the 12th generic Arimidex. Deborah2012..I am glad you have no SE's, I hope that is the case for me.
Just an update for work...so much for PT return...I am going in still for 9's and it is kicking my butt sometimes. Sleep loss at night may be why. First I get up because of a hot flash then I kick off the covers with the AC on then an hour later I am up because I am freezing...this goes on every hour through the night. During the day I just get flushed once in a while. What's up with that????
The Mets are a worry for me also. All though I got rid of every female thing possible through the years. I can't kick the smoking right now so that is a worry. I have changed my diet to Vegan Supplement Powder drinks (with smoothies) and healthier choices, but the worry is still in the back of my head.
So, trying to keep the Faith, literally. Today was the first day I spoke out with the family saying I am pissed because I got cancer and yes it was making me angry today. I guess I am tired.
It was nice seeing so many updates, glad to see everyone is still checking in.
Wishing everyone the best.
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Thank you FFFs for posting the recon stats. I'm starting a list.
Bern25, My heart goes out to you. You have been through so much physically. I don't know if you have work choices. I don't want to comment on your stamina because I wish that you could work less than 9 hrs., that if you understandably are unable to sleep, you might be able to doze, and repair yourself. What a @%#&* nightmare! On top of the close proximity of 3 surgeries, you are experiencing menopausal symptoms. You sound like you are in survival mode- not a good place to be. I wish you peace.
For what it's worth, I am experiencing no menopausal symptoms and the close time frame of my two successful surgeries with no complications (MX and reconstruction) have taken a toll on me. I am not recovering my stamina as quickly as I did with the MX. I was in a vigorous physical state pre-MX surgery. That was not my physical state going into reconstruction. I require more rest, peaceful, tranquil moments, watching the wild birds, slowing down my pace, and quiet thoughts. I've got a surgical drain hanging out of me, so I'm not back at work yet and have the luxury of being able to heal more slowly thank you very much! I'm tired, this time. More so than the MX. I was so spunky post MX. I was a marvel of recovery. Currently, I'm doing great and I am happy, but it's different this time.
Soothing thoughts to all.
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No date yet, ultimately. However, PS agrees it seems I'm a good candidate for Diep and we're moving forward to schedule the pre pre-op tests for confirmation. He indicated it would be 6-8 weeks before this would happen. Since I've an event planned for late July and mid Sept, it might get put off until say Nov. Will know as of the 15th if need to delay it at all.
Thanks for the well wishes!
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Hi FFF's...I tried adding my info to my profile signature to help with progress reports...lol but I am not sure if it worked.
Hope everyone is doing well today...I am off to work shortly...I am going in later so I have to cut back my hours since I won't need to stay past 5. These hours I have been putting in are my fault because I hate leaving things undone. I am my own worse enemy sometimes...ugggh.
Look forward to checking in tonight. Peaceful, warm thoughts to all.
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Nice...I see the new info worked when I posted
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I here you Dixiemine30 Perhaps everyone is too busy and doing well that no one is posting. I check in occasionally, but not much happening with me. Just doing the fills for my reconstruction. Exchange surgery scheduled for July 5.
I have been extremely lucky that I have not endured some of the lows of bc.
I hope all is fine with everyone since that infamous month of Feb!
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Hi Everyone!
I haven't been posting much lately...just kinda stalking instead
....cuz it seems that I'm the only one who did not have a TE, so I don't have much to add. My PS inserted a hybrid (pumpable) implant during the MX, so I don't have to go through another surgery to replace the TE with an implant.
So, Wren...I am also having a bit of pain lately...and my PS says that it's the alloderm breaking down...which seems correct because I now have a "cave" above my foob where other alloderm has been absorbed in my body. Great. Oh well. I guess it's my war scar.
And, Deborah, let us all know how you feel once you get that drain out!!!
And, Janice...my fellow 2/23er...glad to hear that all has been well with you.
HUGS,
Debbie
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Ladies, Ladies, Ladies,
I am free at last, free at last! I am untethered, unfettered, compression bra torture device, and drain free! Yippeeee! I get to shower tomorrow (whoop, whoop, whoop).
I am very happy with boob and foob- otherwise known as Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle Numb. Only the mature FFF's will appreciate that. Disney characters go waaaaay back.
Tweedle-Dee is lovely. She is peppy, has excellent posture, and in the luxury edition sports a functioning nipple! She has a slightly horizontal rotundness aspect and is matched quite nicely in size to her recently reformed partner, Tweedle-Numb (who tried to kill me).
Tweedle-numb is lovely and has abandoned her evil TE ways. She comes standard with a highly rated safety feature- saline, has a new and improved (reduced) scar, is guaranteed to be cancer free, feels no pain (nor much of anything else) and has a slightly vertical rotundness aspect.
Both editions are a swinging bargain at only about $25K+ in hospital, outpatient bills, tests, and medications. However, for a 20% down fee and all future upkeep and maintenance- out the door, one is looking at say ..... about $6,500 out of pocket. An "Agree to Hold Harmless" agreement is mandatory should Tweedle-Dee ever become malignant. In fact, someone better agree to hold her- period.
All this can be yours for the small investment of about 6 months of sustained uncertainty, emotional distress, fear, pain, waiting, and missed productivity. But hey, if you kicked breast cancer's ass even for 6 months? Well that Fab Febbies is PRICELESS!
Happy dance over here, tonight! I have successfully completed reconstruction.
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Hi Deborah2012,
Glad to hear the news...and you tell it so well. You should write books or something, you have a great way of telling things. Seems like you are feeling more yourself again. YAY!!!
Well it's official, the girls and I (and grandbabies) are going to do the Mothers Day Susan G. Komen Walk in Phila. I start the Arimidex Saturday so I hope it behaves for Sunday...lol
I am glad to see more of the FFF's checking in to say Hi, and they are doing so well
Time to get ready for work...will check in after...Have a GREAT day everyone!!
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I just LOVE your vim and vigor! Your sense of humor is the stuff legends are made of!!!
Saw a Derm yesterday for a baseline body-check. Two spots were biopsied, so we'll see. I'm confident they were nothing, since one of them has been there since I was about 10 or 12.
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Morning all,
Deborah2012 - I love your posts, they always make me chuckle. To all in the midst of reconstruction, I wish you easy days and gentle recovery. We have all been thru enough.
I too stalk but as I am not having reconstruction, not much to post. Surgery site is healing well, still numb. But I am told that part of it may always remain so. Range of motion etc is good.
I still have not gone to get my weighted "foob" stilusing the pillow puffs. Some of it is a matter of making time, some I jsut don't care and some I am sure I am not ready. I am slow in the process, remember how ong it took me to "look" Eventually I get there.
I did go to the store site to check out what they have. Could Ijust say they sell the nipples separately. I undersatnd why, I think. The joke amongst my friends is do they come in different colors, flavors, vibrate etc. If I don't laugh at all this absurdity, I will loose my mind.
Gentle day
Nel
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Nel, I told the store I was worried about the silicone being uncomfortable. I ended up with a whipped silicone, much lighter than the not whipped. I'm tired of it by the end of the day, but not as tired as I am from the bra. UMX and a large remainder mean I can't go braless except around the house. I made a microbead foob and wear it with a regular bra that I sewed a pocket in. I'm a little concerned about truncal lymphadema as the mx side seems a little swollen.
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I had my bmx on the 13th of Feb, and all is going well. Nel - like you - I opted out of reconstruction. I only just recently started coming to this site - I wish I had found it sooner!
My surgery went well, and I ended up with a complete pathological response and no evidence of node involvement (yay!).
I have numbness on the side of the sentinel node biopsy, and that is BIZARRE - especially when shaving or putting deodorant on! But, it seems like the numb area is steadily shrinking. And odd, mildly painful sensations have started over the last month or so. Mainly, I have some pain real near where the sentinel node was removed. I've been massaging it, and it seems to be lessening... Maybe it's just adhesions? I think the idea that the nerves are firing again is probably spot on. So, maybe it's a combination of some adhesions / scar tissue / nerves actually working?
I have the cording on the sentinel node side. That's weird. Very very mild loss of range in motion on that side. I'm very active, and I'm in a clinical trial in which they are trying to figure out who gets these cords and who does not (just imaging and range of motion tests and a test for lymphodema)... Anyway, the therapist tells me that they are somewhat more common in active people... but that they nearly always go away.
Sometimes, I wake up in the middle of the night with a mild ache on whichever side I'm sleeping on. That's strange.
But, overall, I actually LOVE being flat. I've opted out of foobs as well. I do where a super light weight microfiber bra. I like not having fabric move over my scars while I'm out in the wild.
I also have two little puffy bits of fat to either side of my sternum. Those are annoying, and I think I'll ask to get a "revision" - anyone done that? I think these are similar to mini dog ears, with the dog ear on the right rather small... but the one of the left kind of not so small. They don't bother me except that I kind of find them ... ugly. This is another reason I wear the lighweight bra out in the wild - to have a smoother line across my chest. Post-revision, I'll probably abandon them completely!
Well - that's all I have... I hope everyone has a lovely afternoon!
Lee
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Lee, A member who goes by Starak had those puffy bits (as do I). She called them mutant dog ears and did have revision for them after a while. I'm still hoping mine will go away.
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Hi ladies - Sorry it has been so long since I posted. I have been having an awful time with anxiety and depression. I know I should find grateful somewhere in the closet, but I cannot. I had an awful time with the tamox and that threw me into acute anxiety which I am fighting with all my might.
To add to that my PS waits 4 months after final fills for the exchange. I don't know why, but I do know she has never had to redo an implant in 13 years, so perhaps she is doing something with the scar tissue. 11 weeks from today I have my exchange.
I pray I am emotionally stable soon.
Any words of encouragement would be so appreciated.
Jill
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Hi everyone. I have been a board stalker for quite a while too, not much to post. I have been back at work for a few weeks and am so glad to be back, but as many of us women do, I also find myself working too many hours and forgetting to say no. I just had a fill this afternoon, I have one more before my surgery to swap the te's for implants. I had 125 cc's put in today and this is the first time I haven't had back pain right after. Maybe the body gets used to the stretching. My swap is scheduled for June 14. We are going out of town on the 23rd, so I hope I will heal up quickly!
Farmerlucy, anxiety sucks. Do anything you can to relax nd reach out for support. Use the board, family, support groups, etc. Let people help you, you are not alone! -
Hi Farmerlucydaisy...some days are like that for me also. I try to find "grateful" too. But I am letting my thoughts turn to positive more and more. It is getting better, but it takes time. Some of it is part of the healing process for me. Learning to except the cards I have been dealt. Even before this happened I had problems shifting gears in my life without a mental fight. I am still not sure if denial works well for me or if I am that stubborn. "Faith" has helped and some days I try to find that too. For now I am going to keep working at life and try not to let this stop me. Easier said then done, I know. But the one thing that helps me get through is, I tell myself, "well nothing is happening right now, so I am not going to worry about it". I have said this to myself right until the time they have put the IV in my arm if I needed to. We are in a better era with earlier diagnosis, more informed options and better meds. Menopause (any kind, surgical, chemical, natural) can give us ladies a mental fight in itself. Try to give yourself permission to hope and believe this is going to be okay. Literally "stop", take a deep breath and try to feel hope in your heart. It is going to be a mental roller-coaster. We wouldn't be human if we didn't feel a mixture of emotions. Let yourself mourn for this and then get back into life. Sometimes I am laughing so hard with my daughters I completely forget for "a moment" what we are going through. Another second later I am heading down that roller-coaster with a pit in my stomach as I remember. Now that I recognize and know that feeling I can let it pass without the anxiety. You will learn to live with it, then it seems to disappear, slowly.
Journaling may be helpful too. (I think that is what I just did and it helps you sort things out.)
PM me anytime if you need to. Keep the Faith, fight the fight!!!
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Jill/farmerlucydaisy-
We are all here with you! HUGE, GIGANTIC HUGS!!!! And, we completely understand these damn moods! I just spent yesterday crying and complaining on the phone to dear Deborah 2012- my wonderful angel. (Just in case you don't know, the taller one is her in my pix...)
Also coming from a high risk family, I understand how this whole cancer sh** can be so emotionally draining. I know that when I was first diagnosed, I literally just cried out for my "mommy," who is gone due to this disease. You just feel like you and your family (in my case, my mom, sis, and aunts) are being attacked by a barrage of cancer bullets, over and over again, and you're just doing your best to dodge whatever ones you can. And, you're just hoping and praying that it doesn't touch your child...in my case, my daughter. Again, know that you are not alone in feeling blue. We care about you. Write again and let us know how you're doing.
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You all are so right. Thank you for the images.
Debbie - You are so right about the high risk family. I feel like such a fool. How did I let it catch up with me? I know this is not the same as my mother, but I was the one who was the well behaved little 4 years old, who stayed with mommie when she was sick to help out. Oh boy. I can only imagine the things I witnessed. I want to scoop up that little baby girl and hug her and tell her how sorry I am. I pray to God everyday to protect my own precious 22 year old, and here I am taking such a toll on her with all my crap.
Damn life is hard. I just need to keep hanging on. Thank you ladies. Please keep the good thoughts coming.
Bern - You are right that I need to accept the cards I've been dealt. Woulda, shoulda, coulda need to shut the F up and get back in the garbage can.
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Well Jill, you know you are part of FFF Squadron!!!! Damn the torpedos...here we come...even if we have to accept the cards, we still get to play our hand the way we want.
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You know it Bern! Damn those torpedos!!!!!!
And, Jill, you know we're all just doing the best we can with this cancer, with our children, with everything. 22 years old is WAY different than 4, and your daughter (mine is 21) is getting a lesson in life. I think this does help them to appreciate life more than most their age and to be more compassionate than most their age. So, I think there are some good things that have come from this. And, yes, I think that that "4 year old" (or 51 year old) does need some hugs....((((((()))))))
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I hear you ladies, at times I get up and down with anxiety and depression. Many wouldn't even know it's going on, since I make a real effort to be in a good mood when I'm around people, etc. I remind myself just how lucky I am in comparison to so very many. Does that help? Now and then.
Stay strong like the FFFers we are!
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Hi, everyone. I've not had much to post here lately since I am not undergoing recon by choice. I did go through radiation which ended two weeks ago. I'm not sure if anyone else in the FFFs had radiation because I don't recall reading about it. It looks like I will have a permanent or semi-permanent tan in the area. I also had skin necrosis on the prophylactic side, and it has finally healed three months later to the day! Otherwise, I am doing well and feeling like my pre-cancerous self which is great considering I had chemo, surgery and rads. I do find I don't want to push myself either mentally or physically in the ways I used to.
I'm glad everyone seems to be doing well and approaching or getting through the recon process. Love to all.
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