Are BFFs or friends letting you down when you need them most?

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  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited April 2012

    Yes, a total yay to the wonderful people who have stepped up  to the plate and to the wonderful people who barely know me who have done awesome things for me and my family.  I do try to put my energy towards the positives in my life most of the time.  I guess I was just surprised that this BFF would be all talk and no action.  I also know more about what I would do for others going forward!    

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited April 2012

    truebff - I totally understand your loss.  My BFF barely recognized my birthday either.  It's a hurt you really didn't expect from all of this.

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited May 2012

    Goodie, (((((((Goodie)))))

  • iLUV2knit
    iLUV2knit Member Posts: 157
    edited May 2012

    Truebff....my BFF of 20+ years didn't even bother to call me on my 50th birthday this year-- a milestone in itself, not to mention getting a cancer diagnosis and having a real reason to celebrate life!! 

    To give me even more of a slap in the face, she called me on February 27th to tell me "good luck with the surgery tomorrow and call me when you feel up to it."  The insulting thing is that my surgery date was for MARCH 28, not February.  I will bet if she had a vet appointment for one of her dogs, she wouldn't forget the date, but she couldn't even remember my surgery date??  seriously???  Since then I have not called her at ALL.

    I went through my exchange surgery on 3/28.  Am I being stubborn by not calling her??  I don't know...all I know is that I don't want her in my life anymore.  She was like a cancer groupie who came around and brought a bunch of meals after my mastectomy, and we spoke often afterward but we have not really connected much in years.  She is actually very selfish and spends all of her time volunteering with a dog rescue that apparently gives her the most satisfaction.  She has driven her family away because she refuses to listen to them BEG her not to keep bringing dogs into their home.  She has 12 dogs! in her house! She has virtually destroyed her house --imagine that many inside.    I  call her selfish because she put her own needs over her family's.  I really believe she enjoys the control versus the rescue part.  She could rescue a few quality dogs but nope...she has to have gzillions...I just don't think this is 'normal'.  I have seen her over the years have very compulsive tendencies and in my opinion, this is just one more compulsion.

    I feel like cancer has shown me who my true friends are.  My coworkers were a much better support system than my own family (brother, in laws) and my lifelong friends.  I never even heard from my husband's sisters (3 of them).  Like I said...cancer has taught me alot about who I want in my life. 

    Oprah said, "When people show you who they truly are, believe them."  I think that sums up the behavior of alot of people who I always 'thought' were my friends...

  • nora_az
    nora_az Member Posts: 720
    edited May 2012

    Yes, not a BFF but it was my sister in law. I 'thought' we were ok. She's out of state and I have always got along with her ok. She wasn't really "there" for me but I was ok with that because she was in a different state. Then started this series of very strange text messaging. The number it was coming from said it was her husband. Blaming me for not allowing my husband to come to some sort of sibs only family reunion. Saying it was all my fault and all the plans were squashed just because of me. I was so hurt by this. I showed it to my husband and said I couldn't believe that his brother felt that way about me. He emailed his brother and sent it to ALL of his sibs (large family) His brother in reply said he had NO CLUE what the hell he was talking about. Seems the sister in law (his wife) decided to pretend she was him and say horrible things to me thinking I would never say anything about it and under the guise of it being her husband.

    Needless to say, that was last September and I don't really care if I ever see her again. She tried to explain herself but honestly, there is no explanation. I was very hurt. I had no clue she felt that way about me. Things are normally about her, maybe that's what this was all about. She couldn't stand not being the center of attention and took it out on me. My brother in law called me and said it was a horrible miss-understand and he hopes we can all work through it. Yes, well I will continue to be ok with him, hes just the idiot who married the conniving bitch, I have nothing to do with her.

  • iLUV2knit
    iLUV2knit Member Posts: 157
    edited May 2012

    Nora....O.M.G....what a weirdo your sister in law is!!  I am shocked that her husband didn't get super upset over it.  Misunderstanding??? no way...it was calculated, deceiptfull and just plain mean. 

    I would not waste one precious minute thinking about them at ALL>  You have yourself to take care of! 

    I am looking for a new BFF....  :-)  Oh...and I never go to any reunions....

  • raffomimi
    raffomimi Member Posts: 96
    edited May 2012

    It's it strangely refreshing to know that it's not just me dealing with the disgusting behaviour of some of our family members and BF'F!!Also that everyone here has in some way or other been at the receiving end of someone elses selfish and heartless acts or words during the most vunerable and  probably the worst tribulation of their life. I'm at this stage guys not shocked by the behaviours of anyone anymore. When you read how family and friends have treated the people they claim to love, there is something seriously wrong and it really shows the true nature of the persons heart and the condition of their very soul.

    Beautiful hugs to each one of you and many blessings daily

    Maria 

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited May 2012

    "...the condition of their soul". So true.

  • nora_az
    nora_az Member Posts: 720
    edited May 2012

    Yes,  I agree.  Through all of this I am sure we have seen people who we never thought would step up to the plate be some of our strongest supporters and others who we thought would help out who bailed.

    I have for the past 6 months tried very hard to not let bitterness consume me. I've tried to live my life and not stress. I think it's a poison if we let it go too far.

    Thank you all for being here. It's the people in this forum that make all the difference in the world.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited May 2012

    I agree about it being a poison Nora, and I am working hard at forgiving and not holding grudges about any of it. It is useful information. It may tell me who my friends really are, or it may tell me who can deal with news like this. I know at least some of it is about me being overly sensitive, which I think is still going on. It seems like any emotion I have is a strong one these days. I am just kind of making note of who I can count on and who I can't and even how I have fallen short in the past and how I can be a better friend in the future.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited May 2012

    This stuff is so hard.  I had a friend send me an email today that he misses Fun Denise!  He has been little support during the BC journey and then sends me that email.  Crazy stuff...

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Oh Denise - I don't know you well but I sure think you're a lot of fun!  I'm so sorry your friend said that.  "Really?  Cuz I've been having the time of my life with this whole cancer thing, I don't know why you think I'm not fun anymore!" (it's one of those things I'd love to say to someone, but would never actually be able to do it).

    I work so hard to forgive those for what they say/do - I doubt very many of those in my life are being malicious, but when it hurts my heart and soul it's hard to be kind.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited May 2012

    Thanks, Nancy for getting it!   Gosh, I think I will use your line back to them!!  It is GREAT!  I just told a friend of mine that get's it, that the crazy things people say are the absolute most surprising thing to me about this cancer journey!   Suddenly, we become a different person to them.  It never stops surprising me! 

  • Shrek4
    Shrek4 Member Posts: 1,822
    edited March 2013
  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Denise:  I've had several friends (whom I thought were very close and integral parts of my life) give me the same impression as your friend - I'm not invited out or asked to participate in events anymore because I'm "all about the cancer".  I know I look sick (can't help that much) but honestly, I think I'm much more fun than I used to be:  I have a new appreciation for life, I laugh more often and find new ways to enjoy being alive, so I'm confused about how I'm not "fun" anymore. 

    Day:  I'm so sorry about your friend and sister.  I sometimes think people just don't know what to say or do, and they think they're being helpful when they're really not.  Particuarly when it comes to the "cure" or "prevention" thing.  I don't want to be the center of attention - I just want people to recognize what I'm going through and perhaps be kind to me.  I keep "weeding my garden" and making a conscious decision to spend my limited energy on those who care about me.

  • iLUV2knit
    iLUV2knit Member Posts: 157
    edited May 2012

    I recently removed my former BFF's phone number from my phone....and unfriended her and her kids and hubby from my facebook.  Who needs them??  I feel like their poison has been removed from my life...it was cleansing for me.  aaaaahhhhh 

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited May 2012

    Hey all you MI and Ohio gals, Maybe we should meet up! I sure would be happy to find friends like you.

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited May 2012

    People are strange...my close nephew never called after my BMX in February and I still haven't talked to him...strange how some people react to cancer.  What can you do...sometimes I think they are afraid it is catching!!! ugg!!! 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012
    truebff:  I love that idea!  And with the weather finally warming up, perhaps a park picnic is in order sometime soon?  Goodness knows I can always use the support and friendship of those who really get it.  Anyone else?
  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited May 2012

    Nancy, I will PM you - there is a free or low cost retreat in Grass Lake for breast cancer survivors too you should know about.

  • bubbe
    bubbe Member Posts: 42
    edited May 2012

    I am so glad this topic is here.  I was shocked by so many people that I knew when I told them I had cancer.  I too had a next door neighbor, a nurse no less, who I told when I was told there was something suspicious on my mammogram.  Not once had she called, come over or asked how I was to me (she did ask my husband once).  When I would see her, she would wave and say "how are you doing?" as if it was just another day and everything was fine.

     Another "friend" told me how lots of women in her office have breast cancer and they are all fine.  And then went on to tell me how behind she is in getting her mammogram, colonoscopy, dental appts, etc.  She chipped in for a gift for my birthday with a group of other friends, but didn't attend my birthday party (60 years old, a surprise thrown by my husband and sons).  When I sent her a thank you, she told me she was "thinking about me, but everyone else told her I was fine." 

    So now I know who is supportive, and who isn't.

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited May 2012

    Just unbelieveable how insensitive people can be!!!  ugg!!!!

  • JulieLynn
    JulieLynn Member Posts: 144
    edited May 2012

    truebff - That sounds like a great idea!  I'm in Lapeer, MI.

  • Catbaloo
    Catbaloo Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012

    I am not a patient or have been diagnosed with BC, but my best friend has.  She has/had DCIS and took 3 surgeries to have it removed and is now on day 4 of radiation therapy.  Family lives across the country and is unable to be there physically for her.  I never want her to be alone, so I have taken her to as many of her appointments as possible and check in with her daily.   

    I can only imagine what she is thinking and feeling but she shares with me so I try and grasp her feelings and try to be there for her as much as I can.

    Can you please let me know what more or even less I can do to help her. I am trying to find the balance of not smothering her but not ignoring her either.  Are there questions I should ask consistently or questions to not ask at all?

     Thanks for any feedback and many happy healing warms thoughts to you all.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited May 2012

    Sounds to me like you are being a perfect bff!!!

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited May 2012

    Wow, what a great friend you are! God Bless You!

    She needs to be able to cry her way through, to be supported through. It will make her very weak and feel poisoned. She needs good food, even if she cannot eat a lot, kind company, rides to and from, and understanding: this is nothing she has ever been prepared for before, no matter how strong she has been on other things in the past. She needs to be put to bed, given her oils and creams, and loved every day, and to be told, you will be there for her every step of the way, that she WILL see the other side of this, that until she does, she is not alone, she is LOVED.

    She may not be able to do anything but go to and come back from radiation treatments. That is as much as anyone can expect at all from her. Her whole life is compromised by this and she, unwittingly gives up her life force for months to a year in this procedure, in her commitment to get well, it's just that no woman knows how much that price will be and it is ALWAYS MORE than any doctor tells her.

    Her muscles will contract badly afterwards, starting at abut two months post radiation and she will need physical and occupational therapy. About three to four months afterwards, what she has been through, that has been "on hold" will catch up to her when she is safe enough to feel it: i.e. she will become depressed and overwhelmed and incapable of handling her emotions for a few months. This is an important time for her to be in therapy, and to understand that this is not a weakness of her emotional threshold, but a part of her healing to experiences these emotions that she could not experience while she was in a life or death situation.  And, if supported, all will progress towards her health and she will be be well again, wonderful again, alive again.

    God bless everyone who sees her through.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Catbaloo:  Your friend is very blessed to have you in her life!

    One of the most important things my friends have given me is understanding, patience, acceptance and kindness.  Every day is a good day; some days are just better than others.  On those not-so-good days, my bestest friends have allowed me to express what I'm feeling without taking it personally, without expectation, and without needing *me* to take care of *them.*  Let your friend take the lead; ask her to tell you what she needs.  Allow her to be honest, even if it doesn't make sense or even makes you feel sad.  Be prepared to be flexible, if you're able, in your time and commitment (some days she might want to be alone, others she might really need someone around - there may not be a rhyme or reason).  I literally live every day one moment at a time; I tell everyone that I will make plans but not promises because I do not know how I'm going to be feeling tonight, tomorrow, or this weekend.  

    Caregivers bear the brunt of treatment, too, in a different way than we do.  You may find yourself very sad, even grieving for what your friend is going through, so take care of yourself, too.  And if you find yourself getting burned out or unable to continue, please be honest with her and tell her that.  She'll appreciate that much more than if you simply disappear or stop calling - which sometimes happens as time goes on and supportive friends "go back" to their lives as we are, months later, still going through treatment.  

    You sound like a truly wonderful and supportive friend.  I wish you both peace.

  • Catbaloo
    Catbaloo Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012
    Thank you Dunesleeper!  I am definitely trying!Smile
  • Catbaloo
    Catbaloo Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012

    Thank you Truebff and NancyHB! 

    Your comments are so incredibily helpful. 

    My husband is really confused too on what to say or not say so this will help him get a better understanding.  I will also keep what you said in mind when a mutual friend asks me what they can do to help I can guide them now too.

    I wish you all a wonderful and feel good day!  Let's Beat Cancer!!!

    xoxox

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2012

    Catbaloo - you are an amazing best friend.  That is great you are taking her to appointments and keeping in touch with her daily.  I have my bffs that some email me often and others call me to check up on me and some drop off food/treats.  One dropped off fresh picked by her strawberries just last Friday.  We also try to all get together for lunch when we can.  I try to keep them updated on my treatment and things via email so they don't get worried about me. 

    Does she have other friends and neighbors helping her?  It's also nice to stop by and drop off something that could be for dinner or lunch.  I often make my homemade mac & cheese, homemade soup, or pink sauce with a box of pasta randomly for people after surgeries or who are in treatment too.  They can use it that night or maybe for a lunch in the next few days.  I've also received these random acts of kindness of a meal or some people just drop off a plate of brownies or cookies.  That is if you are a cook.  I've received gift cards from local take out places (five guys, chinese, pizza joint, etc.) that are awesome too!  I read somewhere where someone got paper towels, toilet paper, clothes detergent, foil, baggies one week and orange juice, bread, milk and eggs another week from someone she barely knew.   We also had our friend and his son stack all of our firewood (a cord!) we got delivered on our driveway.  They just came up and did it before we even had a chance to do it ourselves.  My husband and son were most grateful!  

    I don't think you Catbaloo could or should do all of these things but I'm just giving suggestions maybe for some of her other friends who may not know what to do.  So many people say "call if you need anything" and we are rarely going to ask anyone to do these things for us.

    I'm sure she treasures the car rides and the conversation to appointments! and the daily checking in is awesome too!  She knows you care!  :)  

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