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  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Hi all

    Well it looks like Arimidex for me. My MO would like me to start it May 12th to give my body a break and let the ovary removal have a little more time to settle in before I get slammed with that. I will be taking extra Vit D and Calcium as advised. I will be starting back with my omega-3 and vinegar Friday. My Dexa came back normal so I am hopeful this will not be effected much. They took more blood today to check my "D" level and some other things. I will see her in 3mons. As for the p53 test she did tell me I didn't have one of the mutations (thought was good) but I am set up for a colonoscopy May 7th so off to Gastro I go....uuggh...I guess tomorrow I will know exactly what they are looking at.

    Hope everyone is doing well...has anyone else started on Arimidex?

  • DebbieOS
    DebbieOS Member Posts: 140
    edited April 2012

    Hi Bern,

    I started Arimidex twice, and unfortunately, each time, within a 3-day period, couldn't tolerate the side effects- for me, it was severe headache and nausea.  I meet with my MO on thursday to discuss possibility of Tamoxifen.

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Hi DebbieOS....I thought if you were on AI's you were post menopause...Tamoxifen is for pre-menopause...is there a different scenario you are dealing with....I am not up on all the different combos.

    Thanks for the input...I have been trying to look up every different opinion. Hope you can find the one that is best...

  • DebbieOS
    DebbieOS Member Posts: 140
    edited April 2012

    Hi Bern....you're right- typically AI's mean postmenopausal and tamoxifen is pre, however, because I couldn't handle the Arimidex, she talked about tamox instead.  That being said, after reading about the benefits of AI's for postmenopausal women, but hearing about the joint pain and reduction in bone density, I'm going to shoot for 2 1/2 yrs of tamox, then 2 1/2 yrs of exemestane (another type of AI), if I can handle both of their immediate SE's.  We'll see... after thursday's appt.

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    DebbieOS...I am worried about the SE's more then I think I have worried about anything else...I guess because they are going to be long term and you don't know what you're gonna handle. I hope that works better for you. Please keep me posted? I am glad we have the FFF. I don't know what I would do if I couldn't check in. You and all of the ladies on this site are great!

  • DebbieOS
    DebbieOS Member Posts: 140
    edited April 2012

    I feel the same, Bern!  This site and the ladies on it are WONDERFUL!!!!

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited April 2012

    Trying again today to have second consult appt with PS.  No closer to reconstruction than when first met with him! 

    Good vibes appreciated that for a THIRD time it doesn't get rescheduled by some surgical emergency.  PS is head of the group and gets called in for all emergencies.  I'd have to lose it if this happens again!  Sadly, it's not that easy to get switched around with Docs at the VA so it's better to bide my time.

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012
    Galsal....sending youSmile "GOOD VIBES"...hope the third time is a charm!
  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited April 2012

    The vibes worked...to some extent.  Did the appt get rescheduled?  Nope.  Did I see the PS I was scheduled to see?  Nope.  I should be called next week for scheduling the surgery though.  YAHOOOOO

    You did it, Bern!

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited April 2012

    I started generic Arimidex on March 15. The only side effect was constipation, which went away when I switched to taking it in the morning (I just paused to knock on wood). I've heard that the worst side effects are between 3 and 6 months so will wait till that is past before doing the happy dance. BTW I was post menopausal long before BC.

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Thanks Wren44...with my ovaries coming out the 12th I am having some hot flashes and once in a while some nausea. My appetite isn't really there either. I think I am just stressing over what "might" be. I will try it in the morning also when I start, I heard you have less sleep issues also if you take it in the morning. Here's hoping.

    My Genetic testing wasn't so scary. The mutations are in parts that don't have any know association with any thing distinct. I have agreed to another test that will be broader and they are going to test other select family members to see if there is anything in their DNA. This will be family members that have had a tumor or cancer already, including my daughter, sister, her daughter and my mom (who has no cancer/tumors). I hope it is helpful for future info in the big picture of things and family screenings. I was told so far that my daughters will need to start their sceening at 25 with MRI's which puts 3 of them already at that point. My daughter that has a lump (25yr old) and was told it was a fibroadenoma, I was told to have her tell the docs to remove it. They are at a 40% risk of getting BC and the doc even went as far as telling me they my consider having their MX's sooner then later as a preventive measure. I thought I would lose it hearing that part. 

    Has anyone else had any genetic testing!

    Hope all is well with everyone! 

  • DebbieOS
    DebbieOS Member Posts: 140
    edited April 2012

    Hi Bern,

    Sorry bout you having the nausea...that stinks!

    I met with a geneticist and she gave me the "large rearrangement" BRCA test and we spoke about my family's history (Mother died of BR ca 10 yrs ago; sister had BR ca when she was 26 yrs old and pregnant...this was 33 yrs ago, with a metastasis and is still living; aunts had BR ca, etc., etc.)  She also suggested that my daughter receive an MRI baseline at the age of 25 (she's now 21).   I am not BRCA 1 or 2 positive and we're awaiting results of the large rearrangement BRCA test.  How about you, Bern?  Were you BRCA positive or negative?  And what are the additional genetic tests that you're getting called?

    Also, why did you get your ovaries removed?  Were you premenopausal?

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Hi Debbie...I had the large rearrangement test BRACA and the BRAC 1&2 all negative...but with the variety of cancers on my dad's side and just in general in the family they did one for the "p53" gene. The test showed  2 "polymorphisms" but they are not sure of the significant values of them when it comes to lifetime cancer risks. The lab is offering to test others in the family and my mom to see if it is hereditary and if I got it from her or dad or one from each, etc. I am sure this is just going to be used for research but could actually be helpful in the long run with screenings for our children and grandbabies...

    I had the ovaries out because I was told my cancer was highly estrogen positive and I still had alot of it...I had a hyster 10 years ago but they left the ovaries because of my age. I just didn't want to take the tamox and ovarian cancer is very silent so it was the best option for me. I am 49 and should have been going into menopause anyway....

    I asked the girls not to take any estrogen based birth controll... there is some very useful info coming from the test that hopefully will benefit them....

  • DebbieOS
    DebbieOS Member Posts: 140
    edited April 2012

    Bern - I guess we all need to do anything we can do to contribute toward research to help our kids and future grandkids (or grandkids, for that matter)...glad you did this....just like Deborah2012 is doing with the MRI (aka, terror tube!!!!   Haha!) and the research.

    And, ya, my daughter went on birth control once for 2 months and hated it- Yea!....so she will never go on it again, which is good...given our family history.

    Well, I see my MO today to find an alternative to Arimidex (she mentioned over the phone possibly tamoxifen), so we'll see....

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Debbie- Good luck today...let me/us know how it goes. Smile

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited April 2012

    Hi Fab Febbie Femmes,

    Well, Bern looks like I'll be surfing on this board come Monday as I'm gonna be back in the damned surgical drain drill again with my recon. surgery scheduled for this Monday morning at 7:30 a.m.  I'm waiting for some genetic results, too.  That means I can get caught up on everyone and will not be at work 9.5 hr. days for awhile. 

    Cheerio to DebbieOs,  Hey fellow perv- (now you know, there's no one else I'd rather be seen with going into a public restroom together) same deal with my daughter and birth control. Another connection!!!! Duh! It "like" never ends.  Soooo fun that we have so many intersections. 

     Galsal,  since you are also looking at trying to get a recon surgery, tell me after you get your appt. and you get within a week of the surgery, how you are feeling.  Just curious about that.

    Getting my surgical "nesting" urges for my impending recovery ready this weekend.  Planning on kayaking on Sunday for old time's sake.  Fresh water rather than ocean this time.

    Hey, has anyone noticed since negative node removal a slower healing on that side of your body from very minor injuries, cuts that bleed etc.? Just curious about that, too.

    Smiles and hugs to all the terrific Fab Febbies

    Deborah20112

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Hi Deborah2012....is this your final exchange? I didn't have drains for the final unless they are doing more then that. I try to overly protect my right arm where the nodes came out because of the fear of lymphodema because the nodes are not up to the task of filtering or fighting injury. Doc told me to use caution for the next 6mons. and make sure the cuts are cleaned well. I am not sure about the whole side in general. My left arm is still sporting a huge bruise from the misplaced IV the 12th. Maybe our bodies need time to catch up......wow 9.5 hour days, you are amazing, you may need some rest.

     I am seeing the GYN today to get cleared for work next week, I am excited but nerveous because I didn't start the Arimidex yet (start May 12th). I asked my boss to peek in on me once in a while in case my head starts spinning or something.

    Off to get ready for appt...I will check in later to see if Galsal has a date, which AI DebbieOS is on and what else is new with the Fab Febbies

  • Dixiemine30
    Dixiemine30 Member Posts: 163
    edited April 2012

    Nothing new to report.  Exchange still May 21. Sending prayers to Deborah for her Monday exchange.  It seems so strange that some of us are exchanging already.  What a ride?!?....

    Working like a crazy woman trying to get caught up before I get behind again....it's a vicious circle.

    Love & Hugs!!

  • DebbieOS
    DebbieOS Member Posts: 140
    edited April 2012

    Hi Deborah2012, Bern, Dixiemine and all other Fab Febs!

    Well, it's exemestane for me, ladies!  I'm going to start it tomorrow afternoon, and hope that it doesn't give me the headaches that Arimidex did...although my MO did all but accuse me of lying about the headaches to her.  She said over and over about how she's treated thousands of patients and "Not one" of them reported headaches to her as side effects...to which I quietly said, "Gosh, maybe I'm unique."  Then she went on and on again about how she wasn't sure what to give me next because "No one" ever experienced headaches of a severe nature in her experience, to which I said more assertively, "Well, maybe I'm special."  When she continued again to dismiss my side effects I just couldn't take it anymore and loudly said, "WELL, MAYBE I'M JUST LYING TO YOU ABOUT THE HEADACHES BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ARIMIDEX!"  Yell  Lordy, lordy.  Yup, she pushed my button!  (My son, the med student, was with me and he said afterwards, "Now, I know what NOT to say to a patient!") 

    My plastic surgeon has been WONDERFUL, my breast surgeon has been superb, but my MO, well...my MO is something else.  By the time I left her office, my blood pressure, which the medical asst forgot to measure at first, was (after this discussion) above 180 over 80.  All that being said, she did put me on exemestane, which is a good option, and has also agreed to give me the option of doing sequential hormone therapy (2 1/2 years on one drug and 2 1/2 yrs on another)...so that sounds like a good plan. I guess that's what's important, not whether I like her or notUndecided

    Well, good luck Deb, with the surgery on Monday...and Bern, good luck with the Arimidex in 2 weeks....

    Hugs,

    Deb

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited April 2012

    Deborah, thank you for the kind words.  Will do!

    Yesterday I called the PS to see if I could get in to see him at his private practice, that I do have health insurance outside of the VA. Turns out we can't do that or it smacks of him cultivating patients from his VA clinic. I do now though have his cell number and a tentative appt for 5/8. I'm to call first and not leave for the hospital until he answers in case he won't be able to see me after all because of surgeries. He wasn't happy they'd put me with a PS that doesn't do any flap procedures the other day. We do have to meet and discuss further and begin testing to see if my blood vessels are suitable for the planned procedure. Will have to call him back Monday to check. Know he sees patients at the VA clinic on Wed afternoons, yet my appt is for a Tues afternoon. Sigh  

  • janiceg415
    janiceg415 Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2012

    Some of you girls are moving right along with your exchange surgeries scheduled  so soon.  Maybe it doesn't seem like it is that soon to you, but I don't have my exchange surgery scheduled until July 5 (due to some vacation time my PS is taking)  He says all looks picture perfect, I'm glad it looks good to him because to me it doesn't it just looks like a boxy boob.

    Debbie OS  - sorry to hear that you had such headaches with the Arimidex.  I am glad that you can start on Exemestane for the 1st 2 1/2 yrs. , maybe by that time they will have something else out there.  who knows??  My MO said the Exemestane is what she would also start me on as I am post-menop.  We are wating for my exchange surgery & recovery before starting so I don't have to deal with all of it at once. 

     Where has the time gone?  Feb. seems so long ago, we've made progress over these last months.  Hopefully that is the direction we'll keep heading. 

     To all - "a very good weekend"

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Hi Janice...mine looked boxy too because of the shape of the TE and even now just alittle because the tissue is so soft and the incision has it pulled up just alittle. But you can see beyond that and he really did a great job. I guess they are like the artist staring at a ball of clay, only they know how the final is going look...lol...no worries, I think it will look great. I am not as worried anymore. I know I will be getting 3D tatooing for sure because I am loving just wearing a cami instead of a bra.

    Your right, the time has flown by...now it will be all about the treatment in a few months...then our first Year will have gone by....ahhhh...then only 4 to go...yay!

    Galsal...hope you get some good news, ladies in waiting for your exchanges, it wasn't so bad and I felt sooo much better with a softer implant in....DebbieOS, keep standing your ground...you and all are such fighters...now we can be the "FFF" squad!

    Have a great weekend everyone! Heading to one of my Grandbabies 5th Bday party...where did that time go.........

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited April 2012

    Hello to all my dearest FFF squadron (LaughingBern25),

    Galsal, we must be living in parallel medical bureaucratic universes.  I still can't get my Mammoprint test because the local hospital that guards my remaining tissue block like some Greek mythological creature with different animal parts apparently doesn't have a "contractual relationship" with Mammoprint- only OncotypeDX.  My onc is personally setting up a 3-way meeting at the local hospital to resolve this Catch 22.  The poor mythical creature (who must be bound by some legal hospital curse), the enterprising Mammoprint representative (who is dying to use my 21 score OncotypeDX results for some statistical correlation of "intermediate women" with the Mammoprint information) and my Onc in her action hero cape will all convene.   

    Bern25, you are correct. I am facing a drain again because Ms. Goody one-breast needs to kinda match Ms. Foob and change out the existing elective implant from ten years ago.  It's kinda trippy to be facing a drain again.  Brings back memories of the MX era.  I agree with others here that it seems like some previous lifetime that we were dealing with MXs and BMXs.  I laid out my drain station and am preparing for my "kabuki" cleanliness dance with the drain all over again!  

    Janice 415 I'm guessing you are not facing the magical 90 days post MX urgency to employ some BC prevention treatment because you had DCIS no invasive?  Day 90 for me is 5-3-12. I wanted to do what you are doing.  Wait at least until my drain is out post recon.  However, I will start Arimidex Weds. 5-2-12.   Yes.  During pain pills etc that may mask or exacerbate SEs or perhaps some fairy Godmother will waive her magic wand and I'll be SE free!  Also, Janice 415-although I am physically ready and need to move on in the reconstruct phase- I am finding resignation rather than joy of my impending surgery.  I just got all patched up and rejoined the semi-normalcy world.  You may derive a benefit to waiting a number of months before recon? Don't worry ladies, I'll snap out of it, soon!

    We have two pioneers for Exemestane in Janice415 and DebbieOs. Please keep us informed.  You will be standard bearers for the Fab Febbie Females!Cool

    DH and I went freshwater kayaking today.  Was weird to see my foob and boob in a bathing suit top next to each other.  Glad I wore a windbreaker!  You might be breast cancer patient if your idea of a good name for a bed and breakfast would be "Foob and Boob Inn" .

    Ah ladies, I'm not even on the meds yet!  Stay tuned.  I'm home this week "recovering".

    hugs, smiles, &  xoxoxs to all

    Deborah2012

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Hi Ladies...I guess as I read these post, one good thing is we can look back at how far we have come and remind ourselves of how strong we have been to be going through all this...we have all come so far already.

    My day with the grandbabies and family was EXHUSTING! It was at the "Please Touch Museum" in Phila. I don't think I sat for more then 10mins.(3hrs) I took 202 pics of them, with the sound of "Grammy look at this, Grammy look at me." It was a great day! Today we are off to my sisters farm. Hope the weather holds out so they can run outside with the animals...lol.

    Debbie2012...glad you got a day out before the surgery and it truly stinks you have to do the drains again. I won't be starting Arimidex until after your start date but we can still compare notes. I already picked mine up and the pharmacy gave me the generic. Only sorry I am starting it after I return to work. I wanted to test run before I returned to see how I would do. I asked my boss to check in on me once in a while to make sure my head wasn't spinning or anything...lol...but my GYN and MO told me in their office, with over 100+ using it, very few had SE's. My GYN also told me I am at the worst of my menopause, which so far has been ok...I am going to take some comfort in that...I was also told to schedule my Colonoscopy a little further out because of the Oooph (no problem there!).

    DebbieOS...let us know how the new meds are going.

    So off to church then the farm...best to EVERYONE, Janice,Galsal,Dixiemine30, looking forward to everyones updates!

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited April 2012

    Enjoy your day Bern!

    Deborah...it gets worse.  I wonder how many mythical creatures we'll encounter! 

    The PS that I DO have an appt with is not the one I spoke with on the phone Friday but his partner.  I don't think he knows that.  When I called, I think the person heard PS and a Dr A with a short name.  Both the partners are Dr A with a short name.  So I'll be calling PS tomorrow and then likely to the VA again. 

    The breast clinic is the one won't order the Brca testing for me, said Onc needs to do that.  Onc has been in contact with them and was told that since the NP at breast clinic who orders the test is out on an extended absence, they're trying to figure out how to get this under control of who orders what and what paperwork is needed, etc.  

    LE has hit truncal again with a vengence, have been seeing LT weekly since about a month out from bmx.   Arm does better most of the time, trunk though has decided to be a real PITA.

    Oh, and I should get through all this with ONLY psycho babble talk therapy?  WTF!  Do Jesus, give me strength!!!  To hell with that...made an appt with a psych through my insurance.  The VA isn't the only game in town and I don't have to play their game ALL the time.

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited April 2012

    Galsal,

    I'm loving you!  Go dear! Rant, vent, and I'll bet worrying about the BRCA test is huge. 

    I haven't shared this.  But.... I had thought I had been tested for BRCA , but I hadn't.  Although no history of BC nor ovarian cancer on either side of the family, II have other risk factors. I don't have my results yet.  Yes, I'm going under the knife again tomorrow for reconstruction.  I know.  don't even go there.  I get it.  That SOB better come back negative or I might crumple up like some piece of paper. It would take some origami miracle to fix me.

    Galsal, take it easy baby, I'll imagine you blowing some bubbles outside and then popping them with a little commentary for each:  "Hey, LE you popped my bubble- here's back at 'ya"! Next item... I was kinda miffed about ____ so this pop is for you".

    xoxox's

    Deborah2012

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited April 2012

    Bern25,

    I loved vicariously enjoying your day!  Farm animals and museums- is my idea of a great combo, too!

    How fun, fun, fun! Smile

    Deborah2012

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited April 2012

    Hilarious Deborah!  The brca isn't because of an ovarian or uterine history in the family.  It's because of BC and prostate cancer.  From the same side of the family and path, multigenerational - mom and her father.  I'm worrying more about getting started towards the recon and arterial tests needed etc.

    Let's get this show on the road for crying out loud!  As for the LE, I'd like to have SOME kind of life.  Takes forever to wrap up the chest for exercising when need to go that route.  

  • Bern25
    Bern25 Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2012

    Galsal...Hope everything starts picking up for you...my patience would be at an end by now. Just a thought: I am not sure how close you are to The Moffit Clinic, but my sister in Tampa goes there and she said and my Genetic Doc said they are also BIG on Genetic testing. The rest of my testing up here of the family will be at no cost because they are using the info for their statistics also. They may be able to guide you or do some of the testing without a lot of hoopla.

    The day at my sisters was great. Just being around some normalcy was great!

    Hoping the best for everyone...thoughts are with Debbie2012 today, hope you can check back in soon because you are feeling up to it!!!!!!!

  • Dixiemine30
    Dixiemine30 Member Posts: 163
    edited April 2012

    Thinking about Deborah.....YAY Squishies!!!!

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