Are BFFs or friends letting you down when you need them most?

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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited March 2012

    Vegan ---may be it's a door opening. Look at as positive until proven otherwise. try recontacting her someway and see if she comes with something positive. Could be something new Hope so.

  • VeganGal
    VeganGal Member Posts: 154
    edited March 2012

    Thanks Ladies . . . I actually kinda wished she would have said something that was even a little bit more genuine . . . something that would have opened a door. The card was just so impersonal as if she were writing to her next-door-neighbour's sister's friend's aunt (ha ha). There was also no offer of a call, or anything else . . . so, I think I'm just gonna let it go and move on. This sister also doesn't talk to my other sister (whom I am very close to) . . . she is really an odd duck (even my mother admits that) . . . so, the card, in some ways, was a shocker . . . at this point I need to keep just surrounding myself with loving people . . . and she ain't one them!

    We really can't pick our family . . . .

    Hugs to All . . . .

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited March 2012

    I am still very sad and disappointed about the way one of my friends just entirely blew off my cancer dx. He was my first serious boyfriend, and I was walking around the neighborhood and happened to pass by the house where he used to live oh so many years ago, when we were young. I definitely feel sad about it, but he obviously is not the friend he used to be. To be so callous, he cannot possibly care at all. So, I focus on the wonderful people who are being so very supportive, people I barely knew before. And then there are my other friends who definitely have not let me down. I am ever so grateful to them.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2012

    It is so painful to realize we can't depend on the support and love of someone we thought we could.  Some days, it feels like working in my garden:  there are beautiful and strong flowers and plants that I tend with love and care.  There are also beautiful weeds that, if left unchecked, will choke out and destroy the rest of my garden, so they have to go.  I often apologize to my weeds as I pull them, telling them they are beautiful but they have no place in my garden.  It's the same thing with friends and family who have let me down:  I am sorry they cannot be supportive and understanding, but I love them as I let them go.  I refuse to believe their issues are about me, rather I just uncovered something they now have to deal with - without me taking on their negative energy. 

    My circle of supportive and loving friends and family becomes smaller with every day, unfortunately.  I was diagnosed in November of last year; some people seem to think I should be done with everything now and are surprised (almost as if I'm lying) to learn that my chemo won't end for another two months, and then I'm facing 6 weeks of radiation.  I have to keep telling myself I just hope they never have to endure this kind of illness to learn, first-hand, what treatment is really like.

    Nancy

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited March 2012

    NancyHB:  So very well said Nancy.  You have a wonderful perspective!  I can tell you are a beautiful person.  Thank you for sharing. 

    Carol

  • beth1965
    beth1965 Member Posts: 455
    edited March 2012

    I hung up on my friend of 25 years for the first time ever.

    She was telling me about some life problems she was having like man,finances etc...which is fine i do not mind talking about these things at all. But then she says i was so tempted to do it and i said do what and she said you know things seemed so bad i am thinking of killing myself. Her reasoning for this was because boyfriend broke up with her and she is broke. I know her well enough after all these years she is just wanting attention but i could not handle listening to her go on about this. I just said you realize my doctor says i have very advanced stage of cancer and am being checked for mets as well. In other words my prognosis is not good. And then i proceeded to yell how could you say such a stupid thing to me in this situation when i feel like i am fighting for my life and then told her to grow up and that i cannot talk to her anymore and hung up.

    I am the kind of person that feels bad if i am mean in anyway. And a part of me did feel bad but another part of me did not. So i have not called to apologise but she has not either. I kinda thought it should be her.

    I am venting away here-i was just so surprised. I thought she would be someone whom would be there with me through this i guess not.

    As i read so many stories written here i realize its the same for most of us we are feeling let down by the people we probly thought would stand by us. It is hard enough dealing with the emotions from being DX from BC let alone having to deal with this

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited March 2012

    Too all I have Brain sx Tues Mar 27th . Hope any praying people will keep me in mind. L&H&Ps Namaste sheila

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited March 2012

    Shelia, prayers for you and hugs too. Please let us know how you are.

  • Vicks1960
    Vicks1960 Member Posts: 473
    edited March 2012

    Sheila

    Sorry you have to go thru this...I will keep you in prayer and thoughts>>>>>

    Vickie

  • goforhope2011
    goforhope2011 Member Posts: 47
    edited March 2012

    Sas--hugs for you, you're in thougths and prayers.

    beth, i have a friend of long standing--she never wants to talk about my condition or how i feel or what i'm going thru.  whenever she calls, it's me,me,me and my, my my.  i have listened to this for so long.  she is just not able to face reality.  and i wonder, how much of a friend she is, even tho i've known her for years.  she was at my side before and now, with grand kids and all, the drift is getting bigger.  i just leave her to enjoy life.  and am thankful she can.  i'm the one that has to be stronger, tho, it's not that easy--everyday.

    Hugs, Hope

  • Pegs
    Pegs Member Posts: 198
    edited March 2012

    I don't pity myself at all, i have handled this journey quite well considering all there is to handle.  I knew in my heart when I heard from these long lost buddies that it wouldn't last , I have a great support team, family and current friends, just because we were friends 15 years ago, doesn't mean we have to be now, and thats ok.  people come into your life if only for a short time or long time and thats how its to be.

  • JulieLynn
    JulieLynn Member Posts: 144
    edited March 2012

    Sheila - Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers!!! 

     Beth1965 - My SIL tried to kill herself two days after Christmas.   After we found out she was going to be okay, all I could think was you dumb **** - I'm worried about recurrence, mets, etc, and she makes the choice to do that to herself.  SO completely selfish!!!  Especially when you have to hear how hard their lives are....kids, work, etc....blah blah blah.  Not that their lives aren't hard but they need to put it in perspective.  These kind of people take too much energy - Not worth it!!!

  • goforhope2011
    goforhope2011 Member Posts: 47
    edited March 2012

    woah, julie--you are really hard.  someone who tries to do that is reaching out. so sorry you have lost your empathy.

    Hope

  • JulieLynn
    JulieLynn Member Posts: 144
    edited March 2012

    Hope, I'm sorry you perceived it that way but I can't tell you how wrong you are.  There's a long history with this SIL - I know she was reaching out, she always is, but when you have a family member fighting cancer, it seems a little self-centered to keep going on about how hard life is - Who doesn't have a hard time at one time or another? - but if anyone else in the family has attention focused on them, she is the first to say she knows how hard it is because she had a cancer scare or her dog had cancer - or someone's aunt's cousin's niece had cancer....or one of the kids has been sick with allergies so she can relate what it's like sitting in chemo because she's had to sit in the doctor's office for allergy medicine.  And, I am NOT exaggerating.  She's constantly looking for attention.  Luckily, she is seeking help now but I think anyone who would say they've considered suicide or even tried when they're talking to a CA patient or survivor, needs to realize while they're looking to get out, so many other people are in a battle for their lives.  I know so many, many people have it so much harder than I do but I don't much patience for people my SIL who can only focus on herself and not see what is going on with other people around her because she's so wrapped up in herself.  I'm not just talking about her reaction to me and my diagnosis.  For example, her sister, my other SIL, tragically lost her 19-year-old daughter in 2010, our niece.  She knows how hard that must be for her sister because she was so devastated when she lost her cat of 19 years.  No joke.  This is the kind of person I don't need to spend my energy on right now - Her kids, definitely.  Her, no.

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited March 2012

    I completely understand when your previously bff throws their drama into the field. My previously bff was jealous of  anyone who could possibly die easily.   She kept going on and on and on about how she would take it from me -or the previous person she knew who had breast cancer- if only she could. Then she went on and on about how she wishes she could just die as she is tired of this life and how much she hates people who have operations, like her mother, who get needy and went on and begrudged me for the ordeal of it all. Too much attention away from *her,* on the one level, and her feeling it was more than she could take to be supportive.

    I DO NOT have a death wish. I DO NOT have a competition going. I DO NOT need attention. I had cancer!!!!!!! I was scared, lonely, afraid. It is also just weird -if not also rude- hearing how someone wishes to pass when you are trying to live.

    Some people just do not get that. And they are probably, sadly sicker than we are, cancer or not, and mentally ill about LIFE and will never get that we may be scared, lonely, afraid, sick, but not wanting to die. Not ever.

  • beth1965
    beth1965 Member Posts: 455
    edited March 2012

    Hi all

    Update on friend i hung up on-

    she informed another friend of mine she does not want to ever talk to me again. WOW never expected that after 25 years of no argueing getting along great friendship. This is so backwards i should be saying this not her. I would never had said that to her had she been in my situation.

    goforhope-it is sad when it has to happen this way. I am sorry you's started to drift apart as i am sure me and my friend are too. Your friend sounds quite self centered and like she just does not understand the big picture again similar to mine. I am glad she is enjoying life and never wish anything bad upon her but it would have been nice to have a long time friend near at this time.

    Julielynn-after reading your comment its like we are talking about the same person. I agree i probly cannot spare the extra energy it would take to figure this out. Its a shame people are so selfish sometimes. That must have been horrible on her family and friends doing that to herself during holiday season.

    truebff-i no a few people that crave attention in the worst ways its like my husband describes them he says- they would love to trade places with you to get all the attention but they just don't want the cancer that goes with it they will let you keep that. I have always hated attention and always felt better just blending in a crowd.  And yes like you said truebff scared,lonely,afraid and sick and wanting to live

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited March 2012

    Thank you everyone for you thoughts for the 27th. I'll be at Moffitt which has a stellar reputation. It's wonderful to know how many will be praying for me here on different threads. it has definitely brought me some peace and acceptance. Blessing to all. Namaste sheila

  • goforhope2011
    goforhope2011 Member Posts: 47
    edited March 2012

    hi beth, i understand her, we have been through soo much together.  we spoke yesterday, i mentioned the possibility of another operation this summer--nothing else was said, not why, not what for, so--just continued on about the kids, grand kids etc.  she can't face it.  she gets too upset, she lost her mom to cancer.  some friends, people are just afraid of life. i look at life as a stepping stone to a 'great retirement' when it comes.  and, i try my best each day to make the most of it and love those who understand me or not.

    hi sheila,  courage and prayers for you.

    hi julie, as i am not in the situation -- i am not judging.   guess the best thing to do is pray for her and try to take care of yourself.

    my best to you all, Hope

  • JulieLynn
    JulieLynn Member Posts: 144
    edited March 2012

    Beth, It's so hard to have what you've known about a friend/family member all along just smack you in the face when you need them the most.  It's so hard to not worry about it.....I'm one of the worst ones for worrying about hurting someone or making someone mad....but since my diagnosis I'm trying so hard to not let myself be used, walked on, or taken advantage of but it is still hard when you hope the other person might be able to change or at least step up for a little bit when you really need them.  I talk "big" but that doesn't last too long.  Just know you're not alone in all this - It sounds like we all deal with this after diagnosis, maybe all on different levels, but I think in the end, it also teaches us more about how to live life.  I have to keep reminding myself that....that I'm learning some really good life lessons through all this!  ((hugs))

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2012

    To All BFF's. Today is Easter for Christians and Passover for the Jewish. Whatever your belief system is, may today bring strength and health to your heart and soul, that you may feel for the rest of your life.

    Thank you all that kept me in your prayers. Surgery was very successful and it was B9. It wasn't till some medication wore off that the words B9 came to be understood-------very good drugs.LOL Moffitt in Tampa is a phenomenal center. Only one negative person in uncountable number contacted over the visits pre-op then sx.

     Special K came and stayed with me for about 3 hours post op after DS left. We talked and talked. Then she came the discharge day and stayed with me until in the car going home with DS. She is indeed a Special person.

  • mybee333
    mybee333 Member Posts: 1,189
    edited April 2012

    Sheila - I am glad things went well.

    Nancy - Your post and analogy about the garden is quite beautiful.  I find too tho' that as I prune the weeds, the circle does become smaller and smaller.  I wonder if this has to be so............I know it is so for me.

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited April 2012

    This is perhaps one thing that has made BC so hard for me. Thank god for my wonderful DH. We've been together 25 years. Its never been easy. He was always difficult. I cant remember how many times i have cried in his arms.

    He cant really cook me food, or vacuum. But he makes my tears go away

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited April 2012

    just read through several pages of this thread....at least i know im not alone!  I have had some friends who have been "true" friends and have stepped up big time.  Others?  Not so much, or not at all.  Family as well.  My dad died in 2010 and my 84 year old mom as been a mess ever since.  She misses him deeply.  Soon after my diagnosis, my younger and middle brother insisted that I not tell her what was going on with me.  My older brother and I both disagreed but the younger and middle guy won out.  I had two surgeries last fall, and started chemo on 12/1 for 3 1/2 months.  Chemo is hell and i wasnt allowed to have my mother with me.  You would think the younger and middle brother would have stepped up?  Nothing!  An occasional text or phone call from the youngest and nothing from the middle brother.  Middle brothers wife called me in the fall and said "let me know if you need a ride".  A ride?  Really?  Please.  If not for my oldest brother I would have lost it.  Although, he lives 500 miles away.  Im single and live alone so its not like i had a DH to lean on.  I had my friends and that was it.  Before this all began I would have told you I had many good friends.  That list has shrunk to 3 or 4.  The rest of them ran for the hills.  Never heard from them.  I had a MX on 4/13 and i received a text the night before from a former "good friend" who said "Hi.  Im thinking of you and praying for you.  Ive been upset and denying all of this.  Im sorry I have not been in contact.  You mean the world to me.  Be as strong tomorrow as you have been all along".  How the heck would she know how strong ive been?  Clearly, im still bitter.  She has had 8 1/2 months to reach out and didnt.  Im not sure I will ever get over the actions (or lack of) of these people.  sigh.

  • JulieLynn
    JulieLynn Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2012

    Mardibra - I lost my dad in 2010 also.  My mom is 73 and she was having a terrible time.  In a strange way, I think my BC has helped her.  It gives her something to do and she has been such a huge help to me!  She likes going to my appointments and chemo with me...she said it gives her a purpose and a "job" instead of feeling sorry for herself (her words, not mine).  Maybe it would help your mom if she could help you?  I know don't know how close she lives to you or what kind of health she's in but it may be something to think about.  ((hugs))

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited April 2012

    Oh, forgot to add.  I eventully did tell my mother a few weeks ago.  My oldest brother flew in for the weekend and we gave her the whole story. She took it well and has been so hopeful ever since.  I never told her about the lack of support from younger and middle brother because that would truely crush her.  But as I said in an earlier post, im still very bitter.  Youngest brother has threatened to show up with Chinese Food for dinner several times last week.  Needless to say, I had no Chinese and no sighting of him.

  • JulieLynn
    JulieLynn Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2012

    I'm glad you told her - It's too much to carry by yourself!  My siblings have been great.  Unfortunately, my MIL and one SIL have not.  It's very hurtful and so hard not to be bitter.  I keep telling myself not to waste my energy being hurt by them - I need that energy for the BC...easier said than done but I'm getting better at that.  But, just because I'm working on forgiving, doesn't mean I will forget.  Hope you can find some peace with it....I know it can be a struggle!

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited April 2012

    Who I thought was my BFF from college has really let me down.  She separated from her second husband in December (I was diagnosed at the end of Sept) and I've only seen her once when it was convenient for her to take her daughter back to college.  She only lives 45 minutes away from me.  All she cares about is the one internet boyfriend who had someone else on the side too and now an older guy from work who calls her sexy and loves her hair.   Really do I need to hear about that crap when I have no hair or boobs anymore?  We used to email each other every day but now I email her back the same number of days it takes her to email me back.  We are at 11 days now.  She txt me last week that she wasn't feeling well from allergies.  I replied "poor you! I hope you feel better soon."  Really I'm recovering from chemo and surgery.  My DH said he never really thought she'd be there for me anyway.  Just makes me really sad when I think about it.

    But on the positive side I do have some fabulous BFFs from my when we had our babies together days.  We've been going to lunch when I feel good and we've also had two just us girls weekends since my diagnosis and treatment started! 

    Plus I have my faithful golden retriever and kitty cat who never leave my side!  Now that's love and loyalty!  

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited April 2012

    This is a great place to vent our disappointment about how special people in our lives have reacted in the face of our illness. I know I still keep thinking about the one who let me down, although fortunately much less often than I used to. It feels much better to think about those who stepped up to the plate, people I didn't expect that from. Yay for them!

  • raffomimi
    raffomimi Member Posts: 96
    edited April 2012

    Where do I start!!!

    I was diagnosed August 3rd of last year. I come from a family of 8(3sisters and 4 brothers). One of my sisters came back into my life after an exit of nearly 5 years(she wasn't talking to most of the family for yrs). During the course of 3 months she kept hinting at me to cast members of my family out of my life because according to her they are not christian and do not lead a christian life, so when I told her I will not she dumped me in November last year.Saying that she was frothing at the mouth because another one of my sisters walked out on me and she had the nerve to say if she bumps into her she will give her a piece of her mind walking out on her sister who has cancer!!!!!!!! I bumped into her and her husband over a month ago and she totally ignored me when I said hello to her and looked right through me like I wasn't there, heard afterwards that she was complaining that I should have be out of the bed and making dinner or tending to my daughters as her neighbour was peeling potatoes and getting on with things when she had her chemo and look at me in the bed(in bed becuse of side effects of chemo and neulasta)!!!!Not to mention she didn't have a good word to say about me behind my back.  My other sister when I was having the BMX told another sister that I've always been an attention seeker and that when I come around from the surgery she said that  I'm(me) hoping it's terminal for the attention!!. I didn't find out my other sister said that until 3 weeks after the surgery when for months she had been planning a baby naming ceremony for her daughter who was born in June of last year and because it was a pagan ceremony, I told her I can't attend because I'm a christian, I found my faith in Christ  and he has been holding me together  since my diagnosis and  I didn't wish to attend. Well she started roaring at me in my own home at 11.15pm calling me names and stormed out of my house with the baby and said she was never speaking to me again, that was the same day I got my drains removed. Then she proceeded to overstep her boundaries and call into a friend of mine whom I had been friends with for many years. To make matters worse my so called friend let her in to her home and my sister talked all about herself and never asked about me once. My sister called into my friend a few times and my friend called into her and my friend entertained her and phoned her to run errands for her having known how upset I was the way my sister treated me. My sister didn't talk to me for nearly 7 months and sent me a text in February asking can we be friends(after I finished chemo mind you). I met her in a coffee shop and she proceeded to tell me that she knows things will never be the same between us but would like her daughter to know my four daughters and me.I have forgiven my sister but I'm not close to her the way I used to be at all.

    I have today let my friend go because I felt that she has been totally disloyal to me calling into my sister and even found out today that my sister picked her daughter up from montessori  when she wasn't talking to me!! and she called into my sister a few times and had coffees with her, is it just me overreacting and being too sensitive?????I have always been there for my friend over the years and when it was her turn to be there for me she wasn't. She called in not so often and and a few phonecalls since my diagnosis,never once dropping by when I was going through chemo with a dinner or an offer to take my younger daughters out to the park or wherever.

    Well that's my extra long rant over!

    I do however have two family members I can depend on. My eldest sister has been there for me through thick and thin and my eldest brother. My other brothers do their own thing and are busy with their lives. I do not have the pleasure of parents to fall back on at all as I was raised in an orphanage and my parents live in England(Long story!)

    What I do have is a wonderful supportive husband whom I love dearly and he is amazing and I can depend on him 24/7 and wonderful children. I am truly blessed with the other friends I have who have been there for me and some who have come back into my life.

    Blessings Everyone

    Maria 

                         

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited April 2012

    I think it still is shocking to have lost my childhood BFF. My birthday came and went and I really thought she'd come around at least for that. My husband is beside himself about her ill-treatment because it has been a deep loss for me.

    Again and again, I need to remind myself that I chose that friend when I was a little girl without qualification and how could I have known she would (though not her fault) become too damaged in life to give back if I (or anyone else in her life)  was ever in need. But you don't expect people to get angry and leave you when you are scared and sick.

    I also realize that friends I have chosen as an adult are really amazing people and they have had my back. I am so glad for them and love them ever deeper.

    It's nice to start feeling better again too.I love beginning to genuinely be able to laugh and enjoy things again.

    But through the dark days of treatment and worry and exhaustion and the shock of this disease, it has been the kindness and love and care that has carried me through.

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